[Q/A] [Power/Battery] Missing Battery Capacity - ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I reported already on the official asus forum regarding this issue, but I want to read people's suggestions here.
There is a missing capacity around 200+ or 200mAh + where it says battery is fully charge @ 100%.
The uploaded images as you can view, is from zenfone 5 and zenfone 2 screen shots, where in 100% fully charge of zenfone 5 capacity is accurate, while on zenfone 2 there is missing capacity.
See attached images.
you may check yours, no need root.
Using ASUS File manager, navigate to root of internal storage, (must uncheck "Hide system files" first on the 3 dot menu) then navigate to sys/class/power_supply/battery/uevent, you may view the file by opening it with HTML viewer.
Many or majority had this bug.
Any explanations here or comments?
This could be the very reason why battery drops fast from 100% to 90%.

This might also be linked to my problem- my phone dies when it gets to 25-39% battery.
Is this file editable?

Yes it is, do a full charge and view your battery capacity.

Now my phone goes from 100 to 0% in 40 minutes. At least it reaches 0%... battery behaviour is erratic

Hello
My firmware version is 2.19.40.22 WW, which I updated from asus website.
Earlier phone was working fine, but after update battery charges from 80% to 100% in just 2-3 minutes & discharges till 70% very quickly. I didnt note the earlier version of the device.
Please anyone guide me which is the best firmware version for ZE551ML, 4gb/32gb version.
Thanks.

Latest firmware version 2.20.40.59 also has the same issue .
How to fix this issue???
Anyone???
$umit

Not only 200...but im losing 300 ...

Mine seems to operate normally but shuts down at 40%

Try to check your capacity.. Still this is not fixed but was reported earlier.

Can battery calibration have anything to do with this? I just checked mine and its at 3000. (That's the correct value, right?)
I do remember "calibrating" the battery when I first bought it. The battery was flaky when I was using it for the first time (phone died on me at 32%), but after some calibration using apps and some specific steps, my battery is better than ever.
EDIT: Okay I take that back. I checked again and it's 2700 mah at 100%, shame. If there's a way to fix this, it would be awesome. This seems to be a miscalibration as the capacity shows 3000 mah. Or is that 200 mah a reserve or a buffer so you would not totally drain the battery?
EDIT 2: Tested this out some. Seems to be a hit or miss. Check my answer below.

Oh I just checked it and more than 1000 is missing :|
POWER_SUPPLY_NAME=battery
POWER_SUPPLY_STATUS=Full
POWER_SUPPLY_HEALTH=Good
POWER_SUPPLY_PRESENT=1
POWER_SUPPLY_TECHNOLOGY=Li-poly
POWER_SUPPLY_VOLTAGE_NOW=4376000
POWER_SUPPLY_CURRENT_NOW=72000
POWER_SUPPLY_ENERGY_NOW=0
POWER_SUPPLY_CAPACITY=100
POWER_SUPPLY_CAPACITY_LEVEL=Full
POWER_SUPPLY_TEMP=392
POWER_SUPPLY_MANUFACTURER=(null)
POWER_SUPPLY_MODEL_NAME=(null)
POWER_SUPPLY_SERIAL_NUMBER=(null)
POWER_SUPPLY_CURRENT_AVG=76000
POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL=3000
POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_NOW=1334
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Mine worse
POWER_SUPPLY_NAME=battery
POWER_SUPPLY_STATUS=Not charging
POWER_SUPPLY_HEALTH=Good
POWER_SUPPLY_PRESENT=1
POWER_SUPPLY_TECHNOLOGY=Li-poly
POWER_SUPPLY_VOLTAGE_NOW=3793000
POWER_SUPPLY_CURRENT_NOW=-353000
POWER_SUPPLY_ENERGY_NOW=0
POWER_SUPPLY_CAPACITY=44
POWER_SUPPLY_CAPACITY_LEVEL=Normal
POWER_SUPPLY_TEMP=391
POWER_SUPPLY_MANUFACTURER=(null)
POWER_SUPPLY_MODEL_NAME=(null)
POWER_SUPPLY_SERIAL_NUMBER=(null)
POWER_SUPPLY_CURRENT_AVG=-492000
POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL=3000
POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_NOW=1254

You're battery is not at 100%, you're at 44%, so of course it's going to be low. Charge to 100% then repost your results.

Any solution yet?
I am loosing 301mAh. I already calibrated it, but problem still exist. Is there any solution yet?

After reading about jump charging, battery calibration etc. I decided to do some "test". I plugged my phone after consuming only 2% of battery and charged back to 100%.
And it seems that the POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_NOW value changes everytime you charge your battery to 100%. I don't know why this happens or what this means. I do know that you can "increase" that value by doing what I just did (charging to 100%, let it sit idle until it's at 95% or so, then charge back to 100%).
EDIT: POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_NOW value seems to change each time you charge your battery, regardless if you charge it to 100% or not. Check my comment below.

Will the battery charge till 3000 by this method?
Every time it needs to be done or this can be done once and than calibrate the battery?

It seems that the value of POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_NOW changes, not only when you charge to 100%, but each time you plug your phone. Mine just got off from charging at 91%, and I computed what would be the 100% value of POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_NOW and it's 2819. I've had different values each time: 2700, 2701, 2644, 2688 and now 2819.
I'm skimming through articles and posts about this and there seems to be a bug about x86 processors reporting battery status? I'm not sure about the whole technical stuff, so hopefully someone who understands this would chime in.

Oh you guys gonna love this
POWER_SUPPLY_NAME=battery
POWER_SUPPLY_STATUS=Not charging
POWER_SUPPLY_HEALTH=Good
POWER_SUPPLY_PRESENT=1
POWER_SUPPLY_TECHNOLOGY=Li-poly
POWER_SUPPLY_VOLTAGE_NOW=4338000
POWER_SUPPLY_CURRENT_NOW=-286000
POWER_SUPPLY_ENERGY_NOW=0
POWER_SUPPLY_CAPACITY=100
POWER_SUPPLY_CAPACITY_LEVEL=Full
POWER_SUPPLY_TEMP=391
POWER_SUPPLY_MANUFACTURER=(null)
POWER_SUPPLY_MODEL_NAME=(null)
POWER_SUPPLY_SERIAL_NUMBER=(null)
POWER_SUPPLY_CURRENT_AVG=-224000
POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL=3000
POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_NOW=4857
After 2 minutes
POWER_SUPPLY_NAME=battery
POWER_SUPPLY_STATUS=Not charging
POWER_SUPPLY_HEALTH=Good
POWER_SUPPLY_PRESENT=1
POWER_SUPPLY_TECHNOLOGY=Li-poly
POWER_SUPPLY_VOLTAGE_NOW=4275000
POWER_SUPPLY_CURRENT_NOW=-426000
POWER_SUPPLY_ENERGY_NOW=0
POWER_SUPPLY_CAPACITY=95
POWER_SUPPLY_CAPACITY_LEVEL=High
POWER_SUPPLY_TEMP=383
POWER_SUPPLY_MANUFACTURER=(null)
POWER_SUPPLY_MODEL_NAME=(null)
POWER_SUPPLY_SERIAL_NUMBER=(null)
POWER_SUPPLY_CURRENT_AVG=-409000
POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL=3000
POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_NOW=4732

Haha wow, so your ZF2 somehow managed to go super saiyan!
Maybe that's it? Maybe all this does not mean anything at all?
I've never had any battery problems with the ZF2 so far. I charge by 15%, take it off charging at around 96%. I make it a practice to leave a charge higher than 30% when I will let it sit idle overnight (luckily, quickcharge makes this easy). And with that I've always been satisfied with the battery life.

Hi All,
I had the same issue with my phone where I'm losing around 1200+.
I charged my phone using my Nexus 7's charger and it somehow resolved the issue. I charge it from 40% to full and it now shows 2900+.
It might be with the excessive used of quick charging.

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Battery charge from 80% to 100%=(

Hi, sry for my english=(
When i charge my battery its normally charge to 80% and then becomes 100%.
Try calibrate battery but this doesnt help. Also try another roms and kernels.
Is it a battery issue?
U can buy new battery from DEALEXTREME.com
so its the only way?
Try this.
Charge battery to full. Leave plugged in, Turn off fastboot in power settings and shut phone off. Light will turn orange again and let it charge til green. Boot into recovery and wipe battery stats. After this let the battery drain as low as 10% before recharging to full without unplugging. Do this a few times over a few days. If you don't get more accurate percentages after this then the battery could be messed up.
Gizmoe said:
Try this.
Charge battery to full. Leave plugged in, Turn off fastboot in power settings and shut phone off. Light will turn orange again and let it charge til green. Boot into recovery and wipe battery stats. After this let the battery drain as low as 10% before recharging to full without unplugging. Do this a few times over a few days. If you don't get more accurate percentages after this then the battery could be messed up.
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thx i will try.
i have the exact same issue. i have done battery stat wipe..flashed multiple roms over and over with full wipe and all that. battery charges up to 80% then the LED turns green..and stays that way till it reaches 100%. it jumps from 80% to 100% in just a few minutes.
battery jump
I wouldn't worry Lendlord mine does the same (see attached pic) you can see the green line jumps up from 80 to 100 but doesn't jump down from 100 to 80 under use. The picture is taken from Battery monitor widget, it's a great app which shows mv, ma, % and temp and even keeps a text log of what ma drain there has been allowing you to monitor battery drain while you're using your phone or while it is sleeping.
Here's a great guide aswell of how to ensure best battery life by memnoc:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226016
so thats mean that some battaries have the same issue=( And there is no solution for it...
HTC failed again...
first GPS and now the battery. Bad, very bad!
And one more request.
Can someone post your current widget log?
LendLord said:
so thats mean that some battaries have the same issue=( And there is no solution for it...
HTC failed again...
first GPS and now the battery. Bad, very bad!
And one more request.
Can someone post your current widget log?
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I have the same thing happen to mine, i think its because you've let your DHD die due to low battery levels and that damages the battery which i think causes this problem
..letting the phone shut off because of a completely discharged battery is NOT good for the lifetime of Li-ION batteries.
The battery could be hurt and the amount of mAh the battery is able to store might be lower after.
Also trying to 'pump' the battery to fully charge by connecting / disconnecting while the phone is down is not a good advice because li-ion batteries also don't like overcharging.
To be sure that the battery is fully charged due to its ability it is sufficient to let the phone be conectet to charger or usb overnight.
Android uses the voltage of the battery to estimate (!) the % charge value.
Android supposes the battery is fully charged when it enters the voltage of about 4.2 Volt which is the charging cut-off voltage for li-ion cells.
Now when charging again the conceded voltage is reached more quickly than estimated by android, so the system is 'surprised' of this rapid charge and changes the % value to 100% because the conceded voltage is reached more quicklyy as supposed.
(Try to fill a 0.5ltr beer bottle into a 0.33 glass)
This is the normal of aging for li-ion batteries.
Consider for yourself if it's acceptable for you or if you should by a new battery.
by the way... be careful with cheap china batteries for 10$.
Offers with exaggerated values (up to 1600mAh) will mostly keep their promises
only for the first two or three charges only and will than fall back to 800 mAh or even less !
Greetz
Pudel
Yeah...
My battery started to do the same thing for a week or two. It will charge to 86% then it jumps to 100%, saying it's charged.
This is normal afaik, nothing to worry about.
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solve
actually,it's the problem of your rom , in the framwork.apk . unzip it you will get a lot of battery icon form 1%to 100% in the res file ,if it made mistake,that 'your problem. you can go to uot kitchen to coustom it again.
Nope!
I've solved my problem. I've bought a new (original) htc battery, and the new one works great. I haven't reflashed the rom, or made any new modification. Just added the new battery.
So, yes, it's a faulty battery.
LendLord said:
Hi, sry for my english=(
When i charge my battery its normally charge to 80% and then becomes 100%.
Try calibrate battery but this doesnt help. Also try another roms and kernels.
Is it a battery issue?
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Download Current widget from market and charge ur phone then wait for the 0 ma then download the battery calibration app from market too and calibrate and unplug ur phone, u can aslo reboot to recovery and wipe battery stats hope it helped you

Weird battery issue

Something odd happened to me today.
I went to sleep listening to an audiobook, the G3 was at 100% battery.
When I woke up ~8 hours later the battery was at 99%, it was plaing audio the whole time.
Obviously a display bug, when I went to see battery status it said 648 hours left.
So I restarted the G3 and nothing changed, the battery is now at a lower % but it behaves as though nothing happened.
Please tell me the battery micro-controller isn't screwed and doesn't now report 70% as the new 100%.
Dinger558 said:
Something odd happened to me today.
I went to sleep listening to an audiobook, the G3 was at 100% battery.
When I woke up ~8 hours later the battery was at 99%, it was plaing audio the whole time.
Obviously a display bug, when I went to see battery status it said 648 hours left.
So I restarted the G3 and nothing changed, the battery is now at a lower % but it behaves as though nothing happened.
Please tell me the battery micro-controller isn't screwed and doesn't now report 70% as the new 100%.
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I had something like this as well, but it went down a tick eventually. i was browsing reddit for 30 minutes at 100%, then it went to 99%. Not sure if it's just amazing battery life, or somethin'gs up.
Dinger558 said:
Something odd happened to me today.
I went to sleep listening to an audiobook, the G3 was at 100% battery.
When I woke up ~8 hours later the battery was at 99%, it was plaing audio the whole time.
Obviously a display bug, when I went to see battery status it said 648 hours left.
So I restarted the G3 and nothing changed, the battery is now at a lower % but it behaves as though nothing happened.
Please tell me the battery micro-controller isn't screwed and doesn't now report 70% as the new 100%.
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I would drain it to 0% and then charge it to 100% without unplugging it. That should recalibrate the battery
From 100% > 99% seems to take an age. But soon as it hits 99% it does drain considerably faster.
If you check you batter after you have charged it, it always says Estimated time remaining and collecting battery info... please wait.. until it drops to 100%
I have same issue but its not bother me much. Whats bother me is that some times when I go to sleep and live phone at 60% I wake up tomorow and its 60% and sometimes drops like 3 or 5%...any one have that issue?
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Well, it's hard to say but maybe it wasn't a problem after all.
Seems like the battery % is highly inaccurate at top levels. 100->99 takes much longer than 99->98.
I took the advice of someone in this thread and fully discharged the battery and then fully charged it.
It did take a while though, 6-7 hours from <1% to 100%. Using a computer USB port for charging.
Is charging faster with the provided power USB adapter? Or with wireless charging?
Dinger558 said:
Well, it's hard to say but maybe it wasn't a problem after all.
Seems like the battery % is highly inaccurate at top levels. 100->99 takes much longer than 99->98.
I took the advice of someone in this thread and fully discharged the battery and then fully charged it.
It did take a while though, 6-7 hours from <1% to 100%. Using a computer USB port for charging.
Is charging faster with the provided power USB adapter? Or with wireless charging?
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Yes and yes, if you use an apropiate AC Adaptor. Pc is usually charging at 500 mA and an Ac Adaptor up to 2 Amps. So you charge 4 times quicker in theory.
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ZenFone 2 Battery charging issue solved with Nexus 7 charger

[Power/Battery] Missing Battery Capacity
My apologies for creating a new thread. I'm a new user and had issue posting an answer to the original thread.
Hi All,
I had the same issue with my phone where I'm losing around 1200+.
I charged my phone using my Nexus 7's charger and it somehow resolved the issue. I charge it from 40% to full and it now shows 2900+.
It might be with the excessive used of quick charging.
hi all...i'm using zf2 551ml 2/16. I've got the battery problem after update WW 2.20.40.59, which is charging are so slow. When it get fully charged (100%) it draining fast and when it get 56% suddenly drop to 17% and 4% and die. I've done everything battry manual calibration, i've done wiping cache via recovery mode...and nothing. When i look into sys - class - power supply - battery - uevent it wrote like this : POWER_SUPPLY_NAME=battery POWER_SUPPLY_STATUS=Not charging POWER_SUPPLY_HEALTH=Good POWER_SUPPLY_PRESENT=1 POWER_SUPPLY_TECHNOLOGY=Li-poly POWER_SUPPLY_VOLTAGE_NOW=3965000 POWER_SUPPLY_CURRENT_NOW=-279000 POWER_SUPPLY_ENERGY_NOW=0 POWER_SUPPLY_CAPACITY=93 POWER_SUPPLY_CAPACITY_LEVEL=High POWER_SUPPLY_TEMP=359 POWER_SUPPLY_MANUFACTURER=(null) POWER_SUPPLY_MODEL_NAME=(null) POWER_SUPPLY_SERIAL_NUMBER=(null) POWER_SUPPLY_CURRENT_AVG=-467000 POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL=3000 POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_NOW=6259
Power supply charge full shows 3000, but power supply charge now shows 6259, it's weird it should shows below 3000 due to 98% power supply capacity...can you help me hiw to fix this? thanks

A70 "Super fast charging" ! Really ?

Hi guys,
For those having the A70, does the "Super Fast Charging" feature work for you ?
With the original provided charger (with the "Super Fast Charging" logo on it), I need 3 hours to go from 9% to 100%.
So that is 1% every 2 minutes...
I do not consider this a "Super fast". I think it is "Decent" but would not go above that...
For me, this a severe disappointment... Unless of course I am doing something wrong
Anyone else can share his results for Super fast charging here ?
Regards.
Your phone must have an error. Mine lasts about 1:20 to charge from about 15% to 100%.
JesuuBL said:
Your phone must have an error. Mine lasts about 1:20 to charge from about 15% to 100%.
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Hi,
Thanks a lot for your answer.
The phone... or the charger maybe ?
Is there something to enable to have that "Super Fast Charging" ?
Or something to not disable ?
If I can solve battery drain (not really lasting as I expect) and this, I will think again about keeping the phone.
So far, it's more a non keeper
Regards.
NexusPenguin said:
Hi,
Thanks a lot for your answer.
The phone... or the charger maybe ?
Is there something to enable to have that "Super Fast Charging" ?
Or something to not disable ?
If I can solve battery drain (not really lasting as I expect) and this, I will think again about keeping the phone.
So far, it's more a non keeper
Regards.
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Hello . Do you charge it with the screen closed? Only then fast charging works! IF yes then something is wrong with either the cable or the charger .You could also try a factory reset !
Pe3ball said:
Hello . Do you charge it with the screen closed? Only then fast charging works! IF yes then something is wrong with either the cable or the charger .You could also try a factory reset !
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Hi,
Thanks for the info => Super Fast Charging only with display off ?
So if I leave "Always On" it will not work ?
Maybe that is why...
Anyways, I did as you suggested : I have done a full factory reset, and I have installed the bare minimum of Apps.
We will see about battery drain an battery charging.
I'll keep you posted.
Best regards.
https://imge.to/i/8E6
Go to Device Care then Battery then the three dots on top right then Settings then make sure "Fast cable charging" is enabled
Sufyan3D said:
https://imge.to/i/8E6
Go to Device Care then Battery then the three dots on top right then Settings then make sure "Fast cable charging" is enabled
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Hi Sufyan3D,
Thanks a lot for that info...
I've made sure that the fast charge is enabled.
So far, the device is still at 100% so I can't say if the problem is "solved", but I'll make sure to report if now it charges as it should
And also about battery drain...
Regards.
That's correct! OK check it now and tell us! No battery drain, this thing is a beast! Keep us posted!
Pe3ball said:
That's correct! OK check it now and tell us! No battery drain, this thing is a beast! Keep us posted!
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Hi,
So far, I cannot tell about the Fast charge.
But the phone is almost idle (really gently used) with "Always on" enabled.
It's been idle since about 3hours and battery is at 98%.
I consider this a rather good result.
Hope it'll stay as it is once I install all my apps...
If not, I'll try to track the culprit for the high battery drain.
Regards.
I have same problem, after reading your post, I drained my battery to 9% and charge, it so slow while charging.
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It's pretty fast just over a hour and near full charge from 20% , pretty solid so far took it of charge at 7am and at 7:30pm still on 54% and been on it all day taking photos /slow mo vids web browsing the norm and still going strong!! [emoji2]
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Hi guys,
Well I think it is confirmed that my phone has a problem.
The battery drain is more than acceptable.
I drove my kid to school yesterday. It is a 80 minute trip to go there and come back.
While I drove her, I used the A70 as a GPS whilst it was connected to car audio with Bluetooth.
Battery drain in 80 minutes was a little less than 10% which is quite good I think...
Then I played a bit with the phone and went to bed.
This morning it still had 84% battery.
So that is about 2% battery drain overnight.
Not stellar but acceptable.
So I decided to hook it up.
The battery panel reports "Fast charging plugged in".
But after 40 minutes, I am still at 98% charge.
That means 40 minutes to get 10% battery.
I am aware that the last 10% are the longest, but still... 40 minutes for 10% ?
I will test with another charger to see if it is the phone or the charger...
Regards.
NexusPenguin said:
Hi guys,
Well I think it is confirmed that my phone has a problem.
The battery drain is more than acceptable.
I drove my kid to school yesterday. It is a 80 minute trip to go there and come back.
While I drove her, I used the A70 as a GPS whilst it was connected to car audio with Bluetooth.
Battery drain in 80 minutes was a little less than 10% which is quite good I think...
Then I played a bit with the phone and went to bed.
This morning it still had 84% battery.
So that is about 2% battery drain overnight.
Not stellar but acceptable.
So I decided to hook it up.
The battery panel reports "Fast charging plugged in".
But after 40 minutes, I am still at 98% charge.
That means 40 minutes to get 10% battery.
I am aware that the last 10% are the longest, but still... 40 minutes for 10% ?
I will test with another charger to see if it is the phone or the charger...
Regards.
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Download a free app called "Ampere" from the Play Store, to measure your charging current. Plug the phone into the charger then open the App to get the measurements. Post your result here and compare with other A70 owners.
App shows that my charging current is around 1100mah (with the 25w charger)
I landed here as I was surprised how slow my A70 was to charge. It takes around 3 hours to get from 15% to full, using the included Samsung 3A charger & original cable. Ampere shows the current trickling in at around 850mA. Super Fast Charging is enabled. My previous phone was a Xiaomi Mi 8 Lite which charged at around 2A according to Ampere.
PS I found this link which suggests most of the fast charging happens early in the cycle https://www.sammobile.com/2019/05/02/how-fast-is-samsung-25w-super-fast-charging
The Charger is rated at max 2.77 amps and 9 volts for fast charging. It will vary through the charging cycle though. Towards the end, above 80%, the charging will slow. How long does it take from 15% to 80% and what is the measurement in the middle of that?
GavCity said:
The Charger is rated at max 2.77 amps and 9 volts for fast charging. It will vary through the charging cycle though. Towards the end, above 80%, the charging will slow. How long does it take from 15% to 80% and what is the measurement in the middle of that?
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Will need to measure that the next time I charge it as it's now at 100%! How long does yours take from 15 to 80%?
dwl99 said:
Will need to measure that the next time I charge it as it's now at 100%! How long does yours take from 15 to 80%?
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I've never tested it. I have fast charge turned off. I charge my phone over night. The battery lasts me all day every day.
Samsung A70 Failed!!
I think A70 is failed in all fields.
No porper GCam. And now batteries.
My device getting charged in around 4 hours with original cable and charger.
Now I think I invest 27k in wrong item. OnePlus 7 or realme 3 pro was far better than A70.
It's just name Samsung, nothing else. Blank box with tag of Samsung. Really disappointing with this.
Sorry to fans of Samsung devices. But I don't like this. After 2011 (Samsung Galaxy Y s5360), I think Samsung is better nowadays but I was wrong. I will never buy Samsung phone again.
ErHarinderSingh said:
I think A70 is failed in all fields.
No porper GCam. And now batteries.
My device getting charged in around 4 hours with original cable and charger.
Now I think I invest 27k in wrong item. OnePlus 7 or realme 3 pro was far better than A70.
It's just name Samsung, nothing else. Blank box with tag of Samsung. Really disappointing with this.
Sorry to fans of Samsung devices. But I don't like this. After 2011 (Samsung Galaxy Y s5360), I think Samsung is better nowadays but I was wrong. I will never buy Samsung phone again.
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I am not facing such issues in my device. Regarding development, for a device like a70, development is always slow. We have the source codes available. The only thing missing is developers onboarding to support the device. If at least 1 dev puts the kernel and device source codes and tree in github, I bet development will start soon after.
GavCity said:
The Charger is rated at max 2.77 amps and 9 volts for fast charging. It will vary through the charging cycle though. Towards the end, above 80%, the charging will slow. How long does it take from 15% to 80% and what is the measurement in the middle of that?
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I took some readings with Ampere during a charge:
0 mins 8% battery 4050mA
30 mins 38% battery 1060mA
60 mins 52% battery 1050mA
90 mins 66% battery 1020mA
120 mins 81% battery 1080mA
150 mins 91% battery 1000mA
180 mins 100% battery
So 3h from nearly empty to full which is not exactly fast. Is this in line with what others get?

Battery hold from 11% to 0%

Hi all,
occasionally I see my 7 months old Pixel 3a XL can't hold battery power from 11% down. Switches off very fast, abnormally fast. Then if I power it and start it then keeps on restarting until battery level is higher than 5-6%
I use the original charger only. Sometimes it appears, some it does not and I can see it discharges as expected.
I try to keep my battery within 40-100% full and discharge it very rarely to 0%.
Anyone facing those abnormalities? Can't think of connected events - updates, etc ....
Cheers
p.s. after last night happening again, charged the phone from 0% to 86% (phone was off during charge), turned on on 86% and left over night on the shelf. Usually drains 2-3%, this morning it dropped from 86% to 62%. All connections off, nothing unusual shown in the battery usage stats...
TodNex said:
Hi all,
occasionally I see my 7 months old Pixel 3a XL can't hold battery power from 11% down. Switches off very fast, abnormally fast. Then if I power it and start it then keeps on restarting until battery level is higher than 5-6%
I use the original charger only. Sometimes it appears, some it does not and I can see it discharges as expected.
I try to keep my battery within 40-100% full and discharge it very rarely to 0%.
Anyone facing those abnormalities? Can't think of connected events - updates, etc ....
Cheers
p.s. after last night happening again, charged the phone from 0% to 86% (phone was off during charge), turned on on 86% and left over night on the shelf. Usually drains 2-3%, this morning it dropped from 86% to 62%. All connections off, nothing unusual shown in the battery usage stats...
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That's pretty weird
My 3a xl (about the same age as yours) doesn't use more than 10% max when left overnight. Are you using AOD or anything?
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@Skittles9823 nothing beside stock Android and apps that I've used forever. Strange is that it's occasional - also occassional is initial drain from 100% to 92%.
Maybe its time to flash it - nothing suspicious is shown in batt stats
I use the fast charger that came with it. Not sure how it affects battery life long term. I try to keep it 100% to 40% usually and not charge it if not necessary..
TodNex said:
@Skittles9823
I use the fast charger that came with it. Not sure how it affects battery life long term. I try to keep it 100% to 40% usually and not charge it if not necessary..
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I think popular wisdom is that both fast charging and in particular charging to 100% are not kind to the battery's longivety. Divided opinion about the effect of discharging to low percentages. Personally I charge to between 70 and 80% unless I know I'm going to need more capacity. 3a XL has a bigish battery, which helps. I recharge most nights but only to 70-80%. End of day I usually end up between high 40's and low 30's charge.
I manually set all apps I don't actually need to run in background to 'restricted' background use.
I charge mine up to a 100% often, when using it heavy.. I never heard of charging a battery to 100% being bad for it, unless you believe everything that is told or should I say sold to you.. Sounds like a faulty battery. If still under the 1 yr usual warranty I would have it replaced. I have drained mine down to less than 20% and still never experience any issue that OP state.
doubledragon5 said:
I never heard of charging a battery to 100% being bad for it
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Some research references in here
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/210224725-Charging-research-and-methodology
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/...-Cycle-Life-Modeling-of-Lithium-Ion-Batteries
Also Apple have actually introduced a feature to stop/postpone 100% charging when the phone thinks it's not required. Would be good if we had similar/more control for Android.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210512
WibblyW said:
Some research references in here
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/210224725-Charging-research-and-methodology
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/...-Cycle-Life-Modeling-of-Lithium-Ion-Batteries
Also Apple have actually introduced a feature to stop/postpone 100% charging when the phone thinks it's not required. Would be good if we had similar/more control for Android.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210512
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I'm still not sold on the idea that charging a battery to 100% is bad.. But thanks for those links.
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I'm still not sold on the idea that charging a battery to 100% is bad.. But thanks for those links.
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It's actually true. Lithium Ion batters degrade over time, the speed of which, depends on the amount of battery cycles they go through (0-100% and vice versa). Others have done the research and the math and found that generally a 20% to 80% and vice versa charge seems to be the best for longevity.
Personally I charge to 100 but try to charge my phone when it gets to 20-30%.
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doubledragon5 said:
I'm still not sold on the idea that charging a battery to 100% is bad.. But thanks for those links.
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Evidence and research is there. Of course you don't have to believe it. It's your phone, your battery, your money
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Evidence and research is there. Of course you don't have to believe it. It's your phone, your battery, your money
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So very true my phone my money. In all my years of using cell phones, I think I have actually replaced a battery once because it went bad.
Thank you all for the links and the inputs!
One more symptom - when is very low like this morning - 1% and put it in charger - phone shuts off.
I will keep the battery in 40-80% for the future and limit the drain below 40%. I tried to charge it slow with USB - took me like 6-7 hours...
How long it takes you from zero to 100% with the stock charger - looks very fast to me - 0% to 67% in 35 mins
I personally tried to research and could not find what is worse for these batteries - number of cycles (obvious less when used below 40%) or the low capacity usage ?
TodNex said:
Thank you all for the links and the inputs!
One more symptom - when is very low like this morning - 1% and put it in charger - phone shuts off.
I will keep the battery in 40-80% for the future and limit the drain below 40%. I tried to charge it slow with USB - took me like 6-7 hours...
How long it takes you from zero to 100% with the stock charger - looks very fast to me - 0% to 67% in 35 mins
I personally tried to research and could not find what is worse for these batteries - number of cycles (obvious less when used below 40%) or the low capacity usage ?
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The included charger is a fast charger, good for headlining how fast it charges, not so great for the battery. I just use a 'standard' (Anker) USB charger.
Jury's out on if deeper discharge is bad, but it's the number of complete cycles (0-100% counting as 1). So 40 - 80% is 0.4 of a full cycle, and you're not stressing the battery so much by taking it to 100%. Many folk here replace their phones frequently enough not to be bothered by all this - if they sell it when 20% of the battery capacity's gone, that's fine.
I've observed the behaviour and few things made me question myself...one time I can see 13% battery and palying Youtube just shutdown the phone. Put it into charger and started showing 4% as initial charge.
There was another time when using Viber video shutdown in 23% but can be overheat or software bug.
I try to keep it these days above 40% charge but still use the supplied charger till I buy new slower one.
TodNex said:
I've observed the behaviour and few things made me question myself...one time I can see 13% battery and palying Youtube just shutdown the phone. Put it into charger and started showing 4% as initial charge.
There was another time when using Viber video shutdown in 23% but can be overheat or software bug.
I try to keep it these days above 40% charge but still use the supplied charger till I buy new slower one.
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The good news is that this phone seems to be pretty easy to repair and a battery replacement could very well be a good option for you, especially since you wouldn't be compromising any water resistance or anything

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