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[Q] Some General G3 Questions

Hey guys ! Today I traded my S5 for a G3 and I have some questions :
1. Which is the latest and which is the best firmware ? I am currently on V10H. I see that there are V10i and V10j firmwares, but I don't get a OTA. Should I manually flash them and are they newer and better ?
2.Is it normal for the phone to heat up so much. My G3 heats up just from listening to music and using facebook messenger on 3G. The first boot after updateing my phone it was hot like an oven. Barely touchable on the top side of the screen. (also the brightness could't go beyond 90%)
3. If I root my G3, do I loose my warranty ?
4. Can I do something after rooting to improve the battery life and lower down the heat ?
5. My G3 uses around 10-12% overnight (6-7 hours) Isn't that too much ? My S5 used around 2-3% overnight...
6. Also on Antutu v5 at exactly 27% I get High temperature warning and my phone reboots. Anyone else having this problem ?

Please guys !

niksssss said:
Hey guys ! Today I traded my S5 for a G3 and I have some questions :
1. Which is the latest and which is the best firmware ? I am currently on V10H. I see that there are V10i and V10j firmwares, but I don't get a OTA. Should I manually flash them and are they newer and better ?
2.Is it normal for the phone to heat up so much. My G3 heats up just from listening to music and using facebook messenger on 3G. The first boot after updateing my phone it was hot like an oven. Barely touchable on the top side of the screen. (also the brightness could't go beyond 90%)
3. If I root my G3, do I loose my warranty ?
4. Can I do something after rooting to improve the battery life and lower down the heat ?
5. My G3 uses around 10-12% overnight (6-7 hours) Isn't that too much ? My S5 used around 2-3% overnight...
6. Also on Antutu v5 at exactly 27% I get High temperature warning and my phone reboots. Anyone else having this problem ?
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1) I think I and J are kind of the same but others will know better, they are the latest firmware.
2) No but what you call heat and what others call heat might be different but it shouldn't get anything more than warm at most.
3) Yes but you can revert back easily to keep warranty. I used Stump Root.
4) Yes lots of things but I haven't tried any as I have very good battery. There are things you can do without rooting as well.
5) Yes that is way too much. Mine uses no more than 2% over 8 hours but I have a few of the Google things turned off.
6) Never done it but from what I've read others have had the same problem.
If you have an SD card in the phone remove it and see if the heat will stop.
It is a Saturday so give it some time for others to answer.

niksssss said:
Hey guys ! Today I traded my S5 for a G3 and I have some questions :
1. Which is the latest and which is the best firmware ? I am currently on V10H. I see that there are V10i and V10j firmwares, but I don't get a OTA. Should I manually flash them and are they newer and better ?
2.Is it normal for the phone to heat up so much. My G3 heats up just from listening to music and using facebook messenger on 3G. The first boot after updateing my phone it was hot like an oven. Barely touchable on the top side of the screen. (also the brightness could't go beyond 90%)
3. If I root my G3, do I loose my warranty ?
4. Can I do something after rooting to improve the battery life and lower down the heat ?
5. My G3 uses around 10-12% overnight (6-7 hours) Isn't that too much ? My S5 used around 2-3% overnight...
6. Also on Antutu v5 at exactly 27% I get High temperature warning and my phone reboots. Anyone else having this problem ?
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1) My D855 is on 10H at the moment with no OTAs available at the moment. Most of the OTAs so far have just been small bug fixes and such (the change log for J is exactly the same as H). Its not worth trying to manually flash them yourself. Sometimes the update is available by the LG PC Suite before the OTA, so maybe give that a go.
2) The G3 warming up isnt uncommon. I can usually feel mine warming up around the power button in usage similar to yours. I wouldn't worry too much about the phone being hot after just booting from an update, the phone has probably been running the CPU flat out during the update and boot process to finish everything. The limited brightness is an automatic thing put in place by LG to prevent overheating. (If it was limited to 90%, then I would have thought it is not getting that hot otherwise the brightness would be limited even more)
3) Probably. I haven't rooted mine, but I believe there is a root counter/status thing in the hidden service menu that LG may look if ever your phone is sent back by which they may deny repairs or charge you for them out of warranty. (But if it is a genuine hardware defect, they may be lenient. I sent my HTC One back for repairs for the purple tint issue on the camera with the bootloader still unlocked, but they didn't say anything)
4) Not sure about that (as I haven't rooted).
5) That usage seems about the same drain I have when leaving the phone while it is on cellular data. My G3 has superb standby battery life while it is on WiFi.
6) I think that is a common occurrence with the G3, the phone is rebooting as the phone is getting too hot.

niksssss said:
Hey guys ! Today I traded my S5 for a G3 and I have some questions :
1. Which is the latest and which is the best firmware ? I am currently on V10H. I see that there are V10i and V10j firmwares, but I don't get a OTA. Should I manually flash them and are they newer and better ?
2.Is it normal for the phone to heat up so much. My G3 heats up just from listening to music and using facebook messenger on 3G. The first boot after updateing my phone it was hot like an oven. Barely touchable on the top side of the screen. (also the brightness could't go beyond 90%)
3. If I root my G3, do I loose my warranty ?
4. Can I do something after rooting to improve the battery life and lower down the heat ?
5. My G3 uses around 10-12% overnight (6-7 hours) Isn't that too much ? My S5 used around 2-3% overnight...
6. Also on Antutu v5 at exactly 27% I get High temperature warning and my phone reboots. Anyone else having this problem ?
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That's really strange...
6) my phone barely heats up... And pass test without any problem...
Sent from from my LG-D855

Thanks a lot for the info guys !
When my phone reboots during antutu it is not even warm. I even tried doing the benchmark in the fridge and same thing happened. It just makes no sense.

Also 1 more question - Is there some kind of a list of apps that are safe to remove/dissable ?

Battery with 4.4.3 worse than 4.4.2

What really upset me is that my phone was fine I was using 4.4.2 stock and had good battery life even without battery saver being on... Then I went against my ownif it ain't broke don't try to fix it principles and downloaded 4.4.3 Since then I've noticed my phone wasn't as fantastic battery wise as it used to be.. I started becoming conscious of the need to switch on power saver more often as my phone was draining much quicker than 4.4.2. For this reason I can't wait to switch over to lollipop hopefully issues will have been ironed out...without a show of a doubt 4.4.3 is not as battery efficient as 4.4.2, for my phone anyway... It's a sin that android users don't have the flexibility to roll back to previous versions as they see fit really annoying that I have to wait to the next version....I'm not a hardcore tech user so i dont have the confidence to root and all that...if I send my phone back to my phone company will they roll back to 4.4.2 for me?

Is it a carrier branded version? There are apps you can use to see what is draining your battery. Its possible if you have a carrier branded phone, that there is carrier bloatware that is causing battery drain. Try to disable sync or any apps you don't use (particularly the bloat) and see if that helps.

Have a peek at the first 4 posts in the battery help thread in my signature. If you would like help, post the recommended screen shots there. And specify you are on an M8 to avoid confusion.
There's likely an issue.... Battery life can be great on any version, depending on your usage type and setup. ?

battery on 4.on 4.4 sense is 10 times better for me than on 4.4.3 ...i just go back (because i wanted s2w...hope the new kernel source will come in next days) and again further to 4.4.4 because 4.4.3 battery is just to bad...also on original unrooted

Ok just visited the battery help thread and tried some of the suggestions...before without power saving I would get 1 percent drainage every 2-3 minutes with max brightness...now reduced brightness to auto and slider to lowest level and averaging ten minutes per 1 percent....also removed Google now....this is an improvement but didn't have to do this with 4.4.3...I think some apps are not playing nicely with 4.4.3. I hear Google is making a big effort with battery management for lollipop release...

Use an app to see what is draining the battery. Otherwise you are just guessing.
You also never answered my question whether it was carrier branded, as some carrier bloatware has been known to access the data connection frequently and kil the battery.
Hard to help, if you don't respond to suggestions and questions.

Thanks redpoint, I am on Rogers Canada, actually I was just reading that some nexus users also had battery drain issues with 4.4.3 update. One suggestion there was to disable 4g as maybe the updated modem drivers weren't as efficient as the 4.4.2 ones...going to see if I can select 3g on my HTC one m8 and see if that makes a difference...I wonder if HTC have also modified the modem drivers for their 4.4.3 update too?

mwake4goten said:
Thanks redpoint, I am on Rogers Canada, actually I was just reading that some nexus users also had battery drain issues with 4.4.3 update. One suggestion there was to disable 4g as maybe the updated modem drivers weren't as efficient as the 4.4.2 ones...going to see if I can select 3g on my HTC one m8 and see if that makes a difference...I wonder if HTC have also modified the modem drivers for their 4.4.3 update too?
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Still all guessing without the screen shots.
Gotta help us help you. I dislike guessing. ??

Update: well I just changed my device from 4g to 3g and the signal bar has instantly shot up from two bars to maximum five bars, wondering if this will make a difference to battery life? If so I can live with 3g

mwake4goten said:
Update: well I just changed my device from 4g to 3g and the signal bar has instantly shot up from two bars to maximum five bars, wondering if this will make a difference to battery life? If so I can live with 3g
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Don't like answering questions meant to help you? Weird.

Yeah? Its even worse on 4.4.4. Using the same settings, same apps, same usage patterns, my battery lasts only 10 hours. I used to get 18 hours with %25-%35 left at bedtime. Google sucks - coz, at the end of the day, the combined battery usage of Android System + Android OS + Google Play Services is more than %60!

shirreer said:
Yeah? Its even worse on 4.4.4. Using the same settings, same apps, same usage patterns, my battery lasts only 10 hours. I used to get 18 hours with %25-%35 left at bedtime. Google sucks - coz, at the end of the day, the combined battery usage of Android System + Android OS + Google Play Services is more than %60!
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Go to the thread in my signature and fix your issues. ?

Lolipop Memory Issues Poll: T-700

I can't make a poll thread from Tapatalk I guess, so I'm just looking for comments.
I got the notice to download the 5.0 update today. I'm hesitant to do so due to the many issues reported for other devices. I have a 2012 Nexus 7 that had serious issues until google released the update to 5.1. I do not want to repeat that experience (it took months of waiting).
I have the US version of the 8.4 inch Tab S.
For those of you who have installed the update, have you noticed any issues, specifically memory related? I am not looking for opinions about whether you like Lolipop, so I would request only comments regarding what differences, if any, you notice in how the tablet is running after the update.
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I have the U.S. Tab S 8.4 WiFi and updated to Lollipop. It's running smooth and snappier than KitKat. I haven't noticed any memory issues with it. Battery life is good so far, on par with how it was under KitKat for me.

Thanks. I would hope samsung would make certain the update would not cause this problem, but you never know! It's pretty well documented at this point.
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Mine reboots constantly. Garbage.

So we've got one person who updated without problems and one who is having reboots. Who else has taken the update and what experience did you have?
Also, does anybody know what the options are to downgrade if it turns out that 5.0 does have a lot of problems?

No problems on my S 8.4. I also have Touchwiz Lollipop (5.0.1) on my Galaxy S4 with no problems. I read somewhere that the memory leak issue was only a problem on AOSP builds, not OEM (Samsung, HTC, etc) releases. I don't know if that's true. I'm 100% happy with Lollipop on my S 8.4.

all good here. like the changes from lollipop and touchwiz doesn't seem as bad from what people make it out to be. wish you could uninstall some apps tho.

Originally, I had a 2012 Nexus 7. After installing 5.0, it became unusable. I tried almost everything I read to no avail. Actually, it had started slowing down and having and having random app crashes b4 that, but it got much worse after installing 5.0
I gave up on it and bought the Tab 8.4, which I'm loving. Several weeks later, I went back to the Nexus 7 and used Wug's Toolkit to wipe and install 5.1.1. That has actually seemed to fix my issues with that tablet. Now I'm thinking perhaps I didn't need to get the Samsung, but oh well. I like the larger screen (I always said tablets should come in 8 inches, not 7), the rear camera, and the responsiveness. I'm keeping it!
Because of my negative experience with 5.0, I was hesitant to install this update. However, I installed it yesterday and so far (after 24 hours), it seems to be fine. I like being able to see my notifications on the lock screen again. It still appears to be snappy. It has not been long enough for me to judge battery time yet. So far it looks good.
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killerb777 said:
all good here. like the changes from lollipop and touchwiz doesn't seem as bad from what people make it out to be. wish you could uninstall some apps tho.
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Why not root it? Then you could uninstall anything you want to.

After the update it was all good with my tablet, smoth and fast.
Now it's getting worse, Nova launcher is always crashing, sometimes it reboots by itself, lag came back and some apps freeze...
I hope that Samsung release a new update.

Does the OTA update work with root installed?, I have the T800.
John.

woody1 said:
Why not root it? Then you could uninstall anything you want to.
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There's some apps/games that don't work on rooted devices so I had to keep it stock.

I updated OTA to 5.02 and had no problems. Tab is as quick as before.
I noticed a slight increase in ram usage (from around 1400 to 1700 mb) Now after medium use it hangs around 2GB. Until now I didnt see a problem with that.
Battery usage seems a little better (but thats alway subjective) I had a problem that the charging percentage went from 85% to 100 % in a couple a minutes. Now, connected to USB it charges 1% every 5-6 minutes. and it does so also from 85%-100% There are some slight things I dont like about 5 but again thats to subjective.
One of the things I loke is that its now possible to switch of notifications per app. I hated apps that which me "Goodbye and hope to see you soon, sleep well, say hello to your wife"

HANSB57 said:
I updated OTA to 5.02 and had no problems. Tab is as quick as before.
I noticed a slight increase in ram usage (from around 1400 to 1700 mb) Now after medium use it hangs around 2GB. Until now I didnt see a problem with that.
Battery usage seems a little better (but thats alway subjective) I had a problem that the charging percentage went from 85% to 100 % in a couple a minutes. Now, connected to USB it charges 1% every 5-6 minutes. and it does so also from 85%-100% There are some slight things I dont like about 5 but again thats to subjective.
One of the things I loke is that its now possible to switch of notifications per app. I hated apps that which me "Goodbye and hope to see you soon, sleep well, say hello to your wife"
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So, if I understand, you're saying that you're seeing higher RAM usage with 5.0, but it hasn't caused any problem? Also, for me charging on KitKat is very fast. Does your tab charge as fast on Lollipop as it did before?

woody1 said:
So, if I understand, you're saying that you're seeing higher RAM usage with 5.0, but it hasn't caused any problem? Also, for me charging on KitKat is very fast. Does your tab charge as fast on Lollipop as it did before?
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that is correct,. i see higher ram usage but no ill effect
on usb it charges approx the same kitkat and lollipop 1.% every 5 6 minutes i hardly ever charge on charger but that is a lot quicker

After three days I agree with HANSB57. However, my opinion is completely subjective. I have not measured anything.
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Unstable after OTA lollipop update on Samsung Tab S 8.4
HANSB57 said:
that is correct,. i see higher ram usage but no ill effect
on usb it charges approx the same kitkat and lollipop 1.% every 5 6 minutes i hardly ever charge on charger but that is a lot quicker
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I also experience frequent reboots using certain apps or even general Web browsing. I just restored to factory default so I will see if things improve. So far I've already experienced one crash after doing this. Hopefully a follow up update is in the works.

[Q] FE170CG FonePad 7 - advantages of KitKat or Lollipop over JellyBean?

Dear all,
Since a few month I’m the owner of a Asus FE7010CG (FE170CG) FonePad 7, that I am happy with. It is running the Android version 4.3 JellyBean (stock), which I have read it can be upgraded to 4.4 KitKat or even to Android 5 Lollipop.
Therefore regarding the battery life and the sensitivity on radio and wifi, I am wondering how the 2 newer versions behave compared to 4.3, is it really worth doing the upgrade? Can somebody please share such information based on his own experience? Thank you!

Hi,
I bought mine last year but didn't use much until recently. I have 4 GB version. I upgraded to 4.4 2 a month ago and it was running pretty well - better than 4.3 - battery performance improved, things become more smoothI . Then just 2 weeks ago I upgraded to 5.0 version and I can say battery life has improved a lot now. It lasts more than 2 days easily with light calling, some videos and 7-8 hours of active Wi-Fi. Haven't used radio so can't say about it. But WiFi is working fine. I just use 'Play to' feature and streamed a video to my Smart TV. My only complaint is due to upgrade, my internal memory has become lot low. So much that I can't install more than 8-9 apps. It keeps prompting that storage is getting full. I'm considering to root it and remove extra apps which came with upgrade.

sunny155 said:
Hi,
I bought mine last year but didn't use much until recently. I have 4 GB version. I upgraded to 4.4 2 a month ago and it was running pretty well - better than 4.3 - battery performance improved, things become more smoothI . Then just 2 weeks ago I upgraded to 5.0 version and I can say battery life has improved a lot now. It lasts more than 2 days easily with light calling, some videos and 7-8 hours of active Wi-Fi. Haven't used radio so can't say about it. But WiFi is working fine. I just use 'Play to' feature and streamed a video to my Smart TV. My only complaint is due to upgrade, my internal memory has become lot low. So much that I can't install more than 8-9 apps. It keeps prompting that storage is getting full. I'm considering to root it and remove extra apps which came with upgrade.
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Thanks a lot sunny155 for your answer!
So the battery performance is better on KitKat over JB and again better on Lollipop over KitKat. Now on Lollipop the battery is lasting you more than 2 days, but how long was lasting you on JellyBean?
I keep wifi on all the time on JB, although the connection is done in about 40-50% of the total daily time (24h) and the battery is lasting about 2-3 days with e-mails and occasional web-browsing, but no calls or videos.
Some people on this forum were complaining about a 2-3 sec annoying lag on Lollipop. Does this apply to your case too?
I am not familiar with KitKat or Lollipop, but I think that blocking the access to the SD card is specific not only to Lollipop; was that not initiated in KitKat?

The biggest advantage is probably the Heartbleed fix.

Need Advice ( ROM ) SM-P600

Hey guys,
I didnt use any rom before , that why i need your advice. I live in Turkey, and we still didnt get the update of kitkat.
I wanna update rom, but if there is custom roms good for this, i'd like to install it. But some people say battery performance decreases. My tablet's battery is like %10 = 1 hour. I use it for taking note in collage via squid ( papyrus ) app. Thats why battery is important for me.
I use pen almost all the time, its important too.
If you know good rom, suggest me

I get good battery life with hyperdrive but I have not tried any other rom yet. I use it to watch movies at work and I work 12 hours and on full charge is can watch 12 hours movie with minimal brightness and power saver. I work night shifts so it dark where I am and therefore don't need the brightness up.
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Zionator said:
I get good battery life with hyperdrive but I have not tried any other rom yet. I use it to watch movies at work and I work 12 hours and on full charge is can watch 12 hours movie with minimal brightness and power saver. I work night shifts so it dark where I am and therefore don't need the brightness up.
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it seems good
what if i dont like the rom, can i get back my old rom ?

If you make sure to make a backup with TWRP (as most tutorials would advise you to), you should be able to go back to your original firmware. Flashing a custom recovery like TWRP will trip the warranty bit ("knox") if that's a concern for you, i.e. Samsung might refuse warranty services. If your warranty has expired anyway that shouldn't be an issue (and otherwise up to you whether you take the risk).
I have made great experiences with the temasek CyanogenMod 12.1 (Lollipop-based) that's maintained by joshndroid. Can't but a number on it, partly because I usually charge before dropping lower than 25%, but I'm pretty sure I get well over 10h usage out of it (my battery app says 27h at currently 87%, but of course that estimate is based on me currently not using the tablet).

For non-TW based I would do temasek or BrokenOS. I average 7 hours SOT.
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