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This issue is present in both sony models (xperia Z & ZL). I put my ZL side by side with my old at&t branded DUAL CORE galaxy s3, a nexus 4 (same exact processor), an iphone 5, and an at&t branded htc one.... my brand new crazy expensive ZL takes WAY longer to wake up from sleep then ALL OF THEM. Every one of these phones had a BIG LEAD over my phone. How is there not a thread about this already? When I saw my old GS3 woke up way faster I was sad.... but when I saw how fast the htc one screen woke up I was straight up embarrassed. What are the odds this issue will be resolved? Developers on this forum are very capable and willing to work hard but to an extent. With so much stiff competition I have to ask how many developers will invest their time into even looking into this issue. I have tried every rom/kernel available to me at the moment to no avail. I have tried changing every setting and even eliminated the lock screen... no change. I tried raising the min. cpu speed... nothing.
To make matters worse every single one of the phones I compared my ZL to had better viewing angles and a brighter screen then the POS screen sony decided to cheap out on and stick in this phone. WHAT IS THE POINT OF HIGH PPI IF I CANT SEE ANYTHING ON THE SCREEN UNLESS I HAVE MY PROTRACTOR OUT TO MAKE SURE IM LOOKING AT THE EXACT RIGHT ANGLE. Sony should give you a free protractor key chain with the purchase of this phone I heard about this in reviews but never took it seriously because I didnt realize the extent of the issue. If I look at my phone just slightly off angle the colors are washed out and if its sitting on the table and im looking down on it from my desk the screen is 50% washed out and some colors are muted.
I hear the htc one x had the same wake lag issues and it was resolved via a software update. I wonder if we will be so lucky....
Anyone have any idea or solution to get rid of or at the very least lessen this extremely irritable wake lag?? Let me know !!
My phone doesn't have this issue, the wakeup time is almost immediate and is faster or on par with the phones you mention. This has been tested out of the box and rooted/unlocked bootloader/custom ROM. As far as the viewing angles go, why don't you visit one of e the 3095809385092385028365275829 threads already talking about this?
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My phone doesn't have this issue, the wakeup time is almost immediate and is faster or on par with the phones you mention. This has been tested out of the box and rooted/unlocked bootloader/custom ROM. As far as the viewing angles go, why don't you visit one of e the 3095809385092385028365275829 threads already talking about this?
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REALLY? What model ZL are you using and what kernel and rom???? mine is the C6506 with an unlocked boot loader. Would it be possible for you to upload a comparison video with one of the aforementioned phones (or different ones of the same caliber) with a lock screen wake up test?? If you dont have a one to compare it to even a sample video of waking it up from deep sleep and also a regular wake up would be awesome. thanks in advance man I hope I can crack this problem
No such wake lag on my ZL (C6502) either. Stock rooted rom (.434) with locked BL. Screen wakes up almost instantaneously on mine (just like on my previous Xperia S). I did have a lag of about 2 sec while waking my Note2 (N7100) though. Didn't compare it to htc one or S4 but i'm sure it wouldn't be any laggier on my ZL (shall compare tomorrow when S4 arrives at stores locally here). Maybe you could upload a comparison video showing the said wake lag, if you can't then never mind. Btw, this issue seems specific to your device since nobody else here has any such complaints. So, try a factory reset, if already done then a repair using PCC/SUS. If all this doesn't work out then send it in for replacement under warranty!
About screen, I think ZL screen is stunning! It is very crisp & rather accurate to colours than say SAMOLED screens imo. I like it more than my previous Note2 screen, esp browsing webpages is like night n day! Text appears much crisper on ZL screen no matter how small it is! Viewing angles are never great on sony screens (but not too bad either), and I don't mind that, given the screen is second to none head on! If you judge the screen quality by the viewing angles (like bazillion reviewers out there) then i'm afraid Sony ZL is a wrong choice to begin with! Btw, I have no issues reading text, browsing web, viewing images/videos (with mBE2 on) with the ZL screen placed on table or bed beside me (from an angle of say 45 degrees to 135 degrees). There is a thread regarding it in the ZL general section too (many others in the XZ forums).
P.S: Having said that, I would love to see an ips panel on a sony smartphone!
you can close the thread I am the only one with the problem and IM returning this lemon I got to newegg for a full refund. I was trying to decide whether I wanted a refund or replacement and I put this thing next to my old dell streak that i bought for 220 bucks TWO YEARS AGO.... they both have 5 inch sceens... it was honestly pathetic. THE DISPLAYS LOOKED ALMOST THE SAME. No wonder the htc one threads in the xda forum have hundreds of thousand of views and the ZL doesnt have more then 10,000 in one thread. if your on the fence thinking about buying this phone... this is strictly my opinion but.... FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DONT DO IT. god bless newegg, they waived the restocking fee because my phone was defective and im getting a full refund. My ZL may have sucked but you guys were a big help. Thanks for your input dudes, I would not have known my ZL was defective if it wasnt for your posts.
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No such wake lag on my ZL (C6502) either. Stock rooted rom (.434) with locked BL. Screen wakes up almost instantaneously on mine (just like on my previous Xperia S). I did have a lag of about 2 sec while waking my Note2 (N7100) though. Didn't compare it to htc one or S4 but i'm sure it wouldn't be any laggier on my ZL (shall compare tomorrow when S4 arrives at stores locally here). Maybe you could upload a comparison video showing the said wake lag, if you can't then never mind. Btw, this issue seems specific to your device since nobody else here has any such complaints. So, try a factory reset, if already done then a repair using PCC/SUS. If all this doesn't work out then send it in for replacement under warranty!
About screen, I think ZL screen is stunning! It is very crisp & rather accurate to colours than say SAMOLED screens imo. I like it more than my previous Note2 screen, esp browsing webpages is like night n day! Text appears much crisper on ZL screen no matter how small it is! Viewing angles are never great on sony screens (but not too bad either), and I don't mind that, given the screen is second to none head on! If you judge the screen quality by the viewing angles (like bazillion reviewers out there) then i'm afraid Sony ZL is a wrong choice to begin with! Btw, I have no issues reading text, browsing web, viewing images/videos (with mBE2 on) with the ZL screen placed on table or bed beside me (from an angle of say 45 degrees to 135 degrees). There is a thread regarding it in the ZL general section too (many others in the XZ forums).
P.S: Having said that, I would love to see an ips panel on a sony smartphone!
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by the way.. I have been a sony fan my whole life and still am..... every tv i have ever purchased EVER was a sony. and they have all had good viewing angles ... and as far as cell phones go if you compare this cell phone to ANY OTHER ONE in its price range they ALL have great viewing angles. I laughed when I read that comment about sony and bad viewing angles because your screen is probably manufactured by sharp. hell it might as well say SHARP instead of sony on the phone.
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by the way.. I have been a sony fan my whole life and still am..... every tv i have ever purchased EVER was a sony. and they have all had good viewing angles ... and as far as cell phones go if you compare this cell phone to ANY OTHER ONE in its price range they ALL have great viewing angles. I laughed when I read that comment about sony and bad viewing angles because your screen is probably manufactured by sharp. hell it might as well say SHARP instead of sony on the phone.
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Sorry, but I didn't quite get what your post was about. Just for clarification when I said "sony screens" in my previous post, I was implying the displays on sony smartphones (which I thought was obvious as we are here at xda forums & not TV forums ). I am well aware that the Sony ZL has sharp display, and fyi the HTC One too has displays sourced from sharp/Samsung.
Well, I think I don't need to be a fan to appreciate a good screen! I appreciate your opinion & concern about bad viewing angles on ZL, but as I've said before it isn't an issue for me, so I hope you appreciate mine.
P.S. Btw, the other day I played with the GS4 and I still find the ZL screen better especially with regards to web browsing (better whites & crisper letters) & daylight legibility (better brightness perhaps). I still might end up buying it just for fun, or maybe NOT .
Okay, so I'm debating on whether or not getting the G3. I need as many opinions as possible whether or not to get it. Please list your pros/cons along with your comment. Right now, I'm stuck with either the M8 or the G3.
My previous devices were:
Samsung: S2, S3, S4
HTC: Inspire, Wildfire S, EVO 3D
Sony: Xperia Z1 C6903
LG: Nexus 4 (current)
I really liked my Samsung's just cause of the AMOLED screen. I stripped TouchWiz most of the time and stuck with AOSP. I liked my HTC's cause Sense was actually pretty cool besides the heavy UI. I liked my Z1 cause it was waterproof. I love my Nexus, because, 1) Life's Gangster 2) straight Google 3) decent specs even today.
Cons: TouchWiz, is full of useless gimmicks. Sense, then, heavy UI. haven't used any other version since 4.1. Sony, odd but useful UI.
My girfriends brother just got the M8 and he said he loves it. Is only other (smart)phone was an S4. I'm not sure whether to get the G3 or the M8 though. He said that he used the G2 and he said it was **** without explanation. I was gonna get the M7 but since HTC took the SD card slot away, I'd have no use for my 64GB.
I love that the G3 comes with 3GB ram for the 32gb with expandable to 128GB. I kinda like the rear power/volume buttons. I love the lockscreen (using it on my N4). I love OIS and the Infrared depth sensor. The only things steering me away from it is the 5.5" screen and it not being waterproof. I'm not too worried about the waterproofing because hello, taking a shower with my Z1 wasn't anything exhilarating. I think 4.7" is a sweet spot for screens but I definitely got used to my S4's 5" other than having to reposition my hand to drop the notification shade down.
Please help me decide on what I should do. Sorry if this isn't in the right thread, I figured I'd put it here cause 1) I'm asking a question (2 about the G3.
Thank you.
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Only you can decide.
No one can give you an absolute "yes" or "no".
You have already found two negatives FOR YOU in G3 - 1)screen is too big 2) not waterproof.
If you are in the US, you can buy it from your carrier, use it for 13 days and then decide whether you like it or not.
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Only you can decide.
No one can give you an absolute "yes" or "no".
You have already found two negatives FOR YOU in G3 - 1)screen is too big 2) not waterproof.
If you are in the US, you can buy it from your carrier, use it for 13 days and then decide whether you like it or not.
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Yeah but opinions can help a lot. I mean the screen "seems" to be too big. It'll be different when I actually get the hold the device and see how it feels. For the waterproof thing, hopefully there will be a case that at least protects it from light rain or something. My N4 isn't waterproof and I'm okay with that. It was just a nice luxury when I had it noting I really need. There's always those companies out there that do it to an extent. Do you have the G3?
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Yeah but opinions can help a lot. I mean the screen "seems" to be too big. It'll be different when I actually get the hold the device and see how it feels. For the waterproof thing, hopefully there will be a case that at least protects it from light rain or something. My N4 isn't waterproof and I'm okay with that. It was just a nice luxury when I had it noting I really need. There's always those companies out there that do it to an extent. Do you have the G3?
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Not yet, I'll get it right after T-Mo tells me they have for sale.
To me it will be my dream phone. To ME.
Everybody's needs are different.
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Yeah but opinions can help a lot. I mean the screen "seems" to be too big. It'll be different when I actually get the hold the device and see how it feels. For the waterproof thing, hopefully there will be a case that at least protects it from light rain or something. My N4 isn't waterproof and I'm okay with that. It was just a nice luxury when I had it noting I really need. There's always those companies out there that do it to an extent. Do you have the G3?
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Lol. I'm using the Xperia Z Ultra! 6.4" of finger and Palm splitting. All other phones feel so small to me but I'm trying to find the sweet spot so I can go back down under 6". I'm getting the G3. Love LG designs and I miss owning the OGP. I think this phone will be the one for me until the Note 4 comes out, but if the Note 4 is knoxed up with locked bootloader on t-mobile then I'm sticking with the G3. Might even be my phone for more than 6 months!!!
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@Maine_Coon same here. I was checking out my gfs brothers M8 and my thoughts are: Pros: its surprisingly thin, surprisingly lightweight, Sense seems a lot faster, boomsound is greatly improved and bassy, the pictures look amazing, the top where the IR blaster looks slick. Cons: I have to slide the phone down a bit in my Palm to reach the power button (I'm used to side power buttons). I don't like how they moved it to the right of the top of the phone. You have to strain your finger to press it. I don't like the placement of the headphone jack. Its not directly in the center of the bottom of the phone, it looks cut off. I don't like the recents panel.
So yeah, I'd rather take an OIS camera with an infrared laser rather than dual cameras. I have never witnessed an OIS camera before and I think it would be sweet. I think I'm steering towards the G3 more than anything. Let me know what you think of it if you get it before I do.
@Jammol 6.4" is massive! Honestly, my Z1 was too big for me and it even had a 5" screen. I loved my S4 once I stripped TouchWiz off of it, unlocked the Sim and bootloader. I only got rid of it because Samsung released that Knox ****. I mean I still rooted and flashed ROM's with it removed though. I just think Samsung is steering more toward unless gimmicks that they think people would use. Don't get me wrong, air view was pretty tight, but that's about it.
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@Maine_Coon . Let me know what you think of it if you get it before I do.
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Sure will.
The only thing that bothers me is that some report "dim", or not enough brightness.
I almost always keep the brightness at 100%.
Have such a screen dull would be a shame.
Battery life is non-issue for me, I always have the spare. Unless it is not possible, as with G2 and Z Ultra
Everything else suits me perfectly.
Already sold my i6000 and G2, Z Ultra will follow if I will be happy with G3.
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Sure will.
The only thing that bothers me is that some report "dim", or not enough brightness.
I almost always keep the brightness at 100%.
Have such a screen dull would be a shame.
Battery life is non-issue for me, I always have the spare. Unless it is not possible, as with G2 and Z Ultra
Everything else suits me perfectly.
Already sold my i6000 and G2, Z Ultra will follow if I will be happy with G3.
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Are you talking about the G3's screen being too dim? If so, having a 1440p QHD screen you would think they'd have to limit something with it to conserve battery a little better. As what @Jammol said, if the G3 is actually worth it, I'll probably keep it until way past it's lifespan. The most I'd probably do to it is slap AOSP on it like I did with my S4 depending on how the UI is.
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Are you talking about the G3's screen being too dim? If so, having a 1440p QHD screen you would think they'd have to limit something with it to conserve battery a little better. As what @Jammol said, if the G3 is actually worth it, I'll probably keep it until way past it's lifespan. The most I'd probably do to it is slap AOSP on it like I did with my S4 depending on how the UI is.
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yes.
doesn't make sense to me to have a phone with dim screen.
my i6000 6.5" 1080p screen was brilliant.
as of AOSP, we need an unlocked bootloader and not just root.
hopefully this will be resolved.
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yes.
doesn't make sense to me to have a phone with dim screen.
my i6000 6.5" 1080p screen was brilliant.
as of AOSP, we need an unlocked bootloader and not just root.
hopefully this will be resolved.
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With T-Mobile's Uncarrier 5/6, I doubt locked bootloader will stay for long. T-Mo is really trying to win more customers and I think if they allow unlocking of bootloaders, that would win a lot of people in my opinion. Hell look at Verizon, they may have the most advanced and fastest LTE, but I'd rather have a fully customizable phone than fast Internet, especially when I have Wi-Fi at home. But again, that might all change with Android 5.0
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Think about the OnePlus One if you're ready for a 5.5" phone. Comes with CM from the factory, the most open and dev-friendly device atm. Only prob is availability and few reports of yellow tinted screen (sounds like the N4 a while back haha) and can't try before you buy. G3 is beautiful but hobbled by GPU thermals and too many pixels, prob locked bootloader, needs Windows to get it ready for custom roms.
Or if you need a G3 wait a month or two and it will have Snapdragon 805 to solve all the major issues.
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Think about the OnePlus One if you're ready for a 5.5" phone. Comes with CM from the factory, the most open and dev-friendly device atm. Only prob is availability and few reports of yellow tinted screen (sounds like the N4 a while back haha) and can't try before you buy. G3 is beautiful but hobbled by GPU thermals and too many pixels, prob locked bootloader, needs Windows to get it ready for custom roms.
Or if you need a G3 wait a month or two and it will have Snapdragon 805 to solve all the major issues.
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Yeah the OnePlus One looks like an amazing device but I kinda like UI options. Hell, even when I had my S4 before I put AOSP on it, there were so many themed versions of TouchWiz. I never really witnessed a LG UI before and I'm interested to find out what it's like. I would definitely get it, but the whole "invites" thing is a huge dilemma. I'm waiting for Xaiomi to hit the US. Cheap, but beefy phones.
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the oneplus is already outdated..every new phone will have a 2k or 4k with a qhd display while the oneplus only have a 1080p and 810 is around the corner
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the oneplus is already outdated..every new phone will have a 2k or 4k with a qhd display while the oneplus only have a 1080p and 810 is around the corner
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What do you consider outdated though? So should I get the G3 when T-Mo get it then? I read reviews about it on AndroidAuthority and AndroidCentral and they both said that even though it has a 5.5" screen, it handles like 5". They said the camera is good, infrared laser is fast, etc etc.
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What do you consider outdated though? So should I get the G3 when T-Mo get it then? I read reviews about it on AndroidAuthority and AndroidCentral and they both said that even though it has a 5.5" screen, it handles like 5". They said the camera is good, infrared laser is fast, etc etc.
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i was one of the winners from the race contests and i ended up giving my invite to somebody else because of the reasons below:
-only snapdragon 801
- the display is outdated..2k and/or 4k with qhd is the future
-no microsd slot
-no water resistant
-no removable battery
-no ir blaster
-too tall, with big bezels..taller than the g3
-oneplus devices tend to have a yellow tint on the screen
-CM takes too long to update their work
-by the time u get it there will be better phones already
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the oneplus is already outdated..every new phone will have a 2k or 4k with a qhd display while the oneplus only have a 1080p and 810 is around the corner
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That doesn't make any sense. 2k/4k resolution is only needed on a much larger screen, while the 810 is slated for sometime in 2015. If you're willing to wait a year then this whole discussion is moot.
@CrashTestDroid you really think they'll come out with a G3 with an 805? I just want something beefy enough to play Modern Combat 5 when it comes out.
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That doesn't make any sense. 2k/4k resolution is only needed on a much larger screen, while the 810 is slated for sometime in 2015. If you're willing to wait a year then this whole discussion is moot.
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same thing was said when 1080 came out...ppl were saying it was pointless etc..and now it is standard and 810 which will be 64bit is expected to be available in devices by the beginning of 2015
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i was one of the winners from the race contests and i ended up giving my invite to somebody else because of the reasons below:
-only snapdragon 801
- the display is outdated..2k and/or 4k with qhd is the future
-no microsd slot
-no water resistant
-no removable battery
-no ir blaster
-too tall, with big bezels..taller than the g3
-oneplus devices tend to have a yellow tint on the screen
-CM takes too long to update their work
-by the time u get it there will be better phones already
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Cm takes to long to update? U realize Cm has nightlies because there's usually updates being pushed to the servers everyday???
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The only downside (if you dont like big phones) is the phone size itself. I find it hard to operate with one hand. Since its a phablet you'll probably use two hands most of the time.
I currently own an LG G3 Beta version and I can say that it is excellent. Battery life, screen, features are more than enough. I wish it was around the 5" spot but then again the beautiful QHD display makes up for it.
Quoting this: reddit.com/r/LGG3/comments/28gmpd/a_letter_to_lg_lg_g3_mini_wishlist
can't link because I'm too new... ^
Anyone agree? Thoughts?
The G3 is a great phone, but for the logical and rational people out there who value more than specs on paper, or aren't sold on the stupid-high resolution and its pitfalls, what would you like to see in a G3 Mini? I think this is a grand opportunity for LG to make the first "mini" phone that doesn't need to suffer from sub-par specs.
If anyone from LG is reading this, your high-resolution display is actually the main reason I will NOT be buying the G3, next to being slightly too large. I own a G2 which I find is already pushing it.
The high-resolution display is just not worth these pitfalls:
BATTERY: Life is good, but could have been even better with a 1080p display; or could use a smaller battery resulting in lower cost for the device
HEAT: Device runs hotter because of the power draw on the display. When phones get hot, the processor underclocks itself. This is why phones often get laggy when they get hot; 1080p would be at MUCH lower risk, if at all
COST: No doubt that the R&D (optimizations) to pull off this high resolution will make the device more expensive; 1440p display materials also certainly drive the cost up over 1080p
I respect LG for this technological feat, but it really only appeals to the nutty enthusiasts who get off just knowing they are running high specs, or the uninformed masses who are just too dumb to know. I know there is not much else to compete on in the smartphone space, so please bring a Mini that doesn't suck.
Here is my wishlist for a potentially perfect phone (LG G3 Mini), and it's quite simple.
1080p
5", but keeping the same sexy dimensions, materials, and design
Smaller battery is understandable since there will be less power draw
Keep the other key specs the same! (camera, Snapdragon, RAM)
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What he said, but with the same sized battery. The screen size/quality is the one downside for me with this phone, too.
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What he said, but with the same sized battery. The screen size/quality is the one downside for me with this phone, too.
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I think he hits it right on too for the most part. Might battery life be almost TOO good with a 1080p display? Thing would run for days and days. On a smaller device there might not be as much space for it.
5' 1080 screen, everything else the same (okay to nudge the battery down slightly if necessary, due to the smaller package).
I don't want mini performance, simply a smaller screen/package. I really don't want 5.5 screen, I have a 7" tablet with BT kbd/mouse for things that take more real estate.
I want compact, not mini. Mostly because mine is a excuse for selling low performance for premium dollar..
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I think he hits it right on too for the most part. Might battery life be almost TOO good with a 1080p display? Thing would run for days and days. On a smaller device there might not be as much space for it.
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5' 1080 screen, everything else the same (okay to nudge the battery down slightly if necessary, due to the smaller package).
I don't want mini performance, simply a smaller screen/package. I really don't want 5.5 screen, I have a 7" tablet with BT kbd/mouse for things that take more real estate.
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The G2 is a smaller package and it has the same size battery.
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The G2 is a smaller package and it has the same size battery.
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It does, but because it's not removable.
The Korean G2, which has a removable battery, is only 2600mAH instead of the 3000 of the international version.And surprisingly enough, it makes a big difference in battery time (or maybe it's because the firmware is different?)
I love the G3 (I mean I'm ready to love it, as I don't have it yet), but I think it's slightly too big for me. A G3 compact with the same size as the G2, only a bit thinner would be ideal (G2 is the perfect size for me). While retaining the removable battery and SD slot of course...
Looks like our dreams will not come true...
hXXp://au.ibtimes.com/articles/556365/20140620/lg-g3-mini-india.htm
The recently leaked LG G3 Mini specifications also include a 5 megapixel rear-facing camera unit and a 1.2 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 400 processor. In addition, the LG G3 Mini will come with 8 GB of internal storage.
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Snapdragon 400
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Looking forward to Moto X successor.
In other words, the LG G2 is the true LG G3 Mini while the LG G3 Mini is a budget POS.
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Looks like our dreams will not come true...
hXXp://au.ibtimes.com/articles/556365/20140620/lg-g3-mini-india.htm
Looking forward to Moto X successor.
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I'm also looking forward to that. My next phone is either going to be the G3 or the Moto X+1, but that really depends on the X+1. Can't wait to get some real news on it. Hopefully it has a battery to die for.
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My next phone is either going to be the G3 or the Moto X+1, but that really depends on the X+1. Can't wait to get some real news on it. Hopefully it has a battery to die for.
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I'm starting to wonder if the X+1 will have native Android L which should automatically give it 20-40% battery life improvement. Looks like August is a solid date. I hope they can deliver where the G3 failed.
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I'm starting to wonder if the X+1 will have native Android L which should automatically give it 20-40% battery life improvement. Looks like August is a solid date. I hope they can deliver where the G3 failed.
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Coming from the Note 2, I'm impressed with the screen size to phone size ratio. One thing that has bothered me, is how small the LED notification indicator light is. Can barely tell if it's blinking or not. Might just be me, but I loved how easy it was to see the LED notification on the Note 2.
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Coming from the Note 2, I'm impressed with the screen size to phone size ratio. One thing that has bothered me, is how small the LED notification indicator light is. Can barely tell if it's blinking or not. Might just be me, but I loved how easy it was to see the LED notification on the Note 2.
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I thought after the Moto X, everyone would jump on the ActiveDisplay. Motorola must have a patent on it or other manufacturers are still blind to the great value it adds. LED notifications feel archaic after using a Moto X.
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I thought after the Moto X, everyone would jump on the ActiveDisplay. Motorola must have a patent on it or other manufacturers are still blind to the great value it adds. LED notifications feel archaic after using a Moto X.
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Good point. Haven't really explored Moto phones too much, but that's some very useful/practical tech.
I'm surprised almost half the voters believe that 5.5" is more practical than 5" for a smartphone!
Looks like the newly announced 5" G3 Beat will be as good as it gets for us. Not ideal specs, but I'd still take 720p over 1440p any day. If they had made it 1080p, snap 801, and same camera, this would have made it to my shortlist.
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I'm surprised almost half the voters believe that 5.5" is more practical than 5" for a smartphone!
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Imo it is. 5" is too small
Looks like we have a winner!
LG G3 A
Essentially a G3 but 5.2"/1080p! My only wish is that they'd made it 5" or smaller, but looks like this is as close as we're gonna get.
http://www.engadget.com/2014/08/07/lg-g3-a/
For anyone else wondering. G4 is a nice upgrade over the ZL. Pretty much better in every way. Very little smudging on the G4 display; for those who have removed the ZL screen protector know how bad the display is with smudges. G4 display has noticeably better brightness and viewing angles. Camera is really nice, focus/detail is pretty good as a 2 year newer phone should. Quick charge and removable battery is a big plus. The ZL was my first phone with a sealed battery and always bothered me as it could fail at anytime or develop horrible life on a single charge (lucky for me the battery was never an issue). Double tap to wake and sleep is a great feature as well.
The ZL is a great phone. I will miss the dedicated camera button, the cool LED notification light (plain ole circle LED on the G4), Charge port location (though this is just preference), and the overall smaller form factor. I did change my LG G4 ringtone to the ZL Xperia ringtone... Nothing the G4 has sounded as good.
One feature I like the most on the G4 is the Smart Unlock. When I'm home (trusted location), the phone stays unlocked, but can be forced to lock also. When I leave my house it automatically switched back to my regular locking mode (locks automatically when screen sleeps). Not sure if this is an Android 5.1 feature or a LG feature, but great feature none the less. There are a couple of third party apps that does this, but I never trusted those.
Overall I'm pretty with the upgrade. If anyone is thinking about switching to the G4 its great is you can live with the bigger size. Took a not so great picture of the G4 and ZL together, attached. G4 has a Spigen Hybrid case, and the ZL has a Incipio Dual Pro Case. Getting an Incipio Dual Pro for the G4, much better design for impact like the ZL case
really? man, ZL is a 2013 model, G4 is the newest smartphone for LG
how could we compare these smartphones?
you shold compare G4 x Z4, than it would be wise
but ZL still a good smartphone
H4NC0OCK said:
really? man, ZL is a 2013 model, G4 is the newest smartphone for LG
how could we compare these smartphones?
you shold compare G4 x Z4, than it would be wise
but ZL still a good smartphone
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agree with you, Xperia ZL still a good smartphone until now..
one thing it's impressed me is how a two years old phone can perform awesomely in performance ( start from Android 4.3, phone work so smooth and become smoother in Android 5 )
as a proof, i still kept my Xperia ZL although i already moved to LG G4... (urgghhh.. not G4, it got stolen by some pickpockets! i can't forgive those a**hole).. i'll moved to LG G3 now..
i recently had to upgrade from the zl, and it was between the g4 and z5. ended up with a z5 mainly because of the sony UI. the 3 things that really bothered me on the G4 was the UI, the slight curved shape, and the unnecessary qhd resolution. but these were almost offset by the really nice design (thin borders and leather battery cover), and excellent camera app.
but damn. nothing beats the zl. it's perfect in every way minus the limited capability of the camera. damn phone still works perfectly except for the GPS, which was why i had to get a new phone :/.
Try Cyanogenmod 12.1 and soon enough, u will know what's the real definition of buttery smooth.
Though the things i dont like about the ZL are horrible battery life and my main microphone is broken
Still using ZL as my daily driver cuz couldnt effort those awesomer out there LOL
Hi. I had Xperia neo V, and it had hd filming, and it was nearly terrible, but it was 5mpx. Thats what i was thinking that is cause.
So now i got 8mpx SE arc s, and it is much better, but stil there is some "micro blurry", and light pitch is like higher (kind of look like 5% fog, it was also on HTC chacha, and that neo V, and no, its not dirty lens).
And im comparing to the nokia E6, i had this Nokia e6 and it have also 8mpx camcorder and its actually perfect, for a cheaper phone with 8mpx. It can even zoom like it have optical zoom, but it doesnt, its about codec or algorithms, or maybe camera module??
Can anyone explain this to me? How come Sony Ericsson have so crappy camcorders??
Im dissapointed with this. I bought this arc s cause i think it doesnt look like ALL the rest of dozens of phones, that are actually clones of themselves.
Is there possibility to do something with this?
I was editing xml files in system/etc, installing lgcamerapro but NOTHING changed. Only file size.
Regards.