This issue is present in both sony models (xperia Z & ZL). I put my ZL side by side with my old at&t branded DUAL CORE galaxy s3, a nexus 4 (same exact processor), an iphone 5, and an at&t branded htc one.... my brand new crazy expensive ZL takes WAY longer to wake up from sleep then ALL OF THEM. Every one of these phones had a BIG LEAD over my phone. How is there not a thread about this already? When I saw my old GS3 woke up way faster I was sad.... but when I saw how fast the htc one screen woke up I was straight up embarrassed. What are the odds this issue will be resolved? Developers on this forum are very capable and willing to work hard but to an extent. With so much stiff competition I have to ask how many developers will invest their time into even looking into this issue. I have tried every rom/kernel available to me at the moment to no avail. I have tried changing every setting and even eliminated the lock screen... no change. I tried raising the min. cpu speed... nothing.
To make matters worse every single one of the phones I compared my ZL to had better viewing angles and a brighter screen then the POS screen sony decided to cheap out on and stick in this phone. WHAT IS THE POINT OF HIGH PPI IF I CANT SEE ANYTHING ON THE SCREEN UNLESS I HAVE MY PROTRACTOR OUT TO MAKE SURE IM LOOKING AT THE EXACT RIGHT ANGLE. Sony should give you a free protractor key chain with the purchase of this phone I heard about this in reviews but never took it seriously because I didnt realize the extent of the issue. If I look at my phone just slightly off angle the colors are washed out and if its sitting on the table and im looking down on it from my desk the screen is 50% washed out and some colors are muted.
I hear the htc one x had the same wake lag issues and it was resolved via a software update. I wonder if we will be so lucky....
Anyone have any idea or solution to get rid of or at the very least lessen this extremely irritable wake lag?? Let me know !!
My phone doesn't have this issue, the wakeup time is almost immediate and is faster or on par with the phones you mention. This has been tested out of the box and rooted/unlocked bootloader/custom ROM. As far as the viewing angles go, why don't you visit one of e the 3095809385092385028365275829 threads already talking about this?
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My phone doesn't have this issue, the wakeup time is almost immediate and is faster or on par with the phones you mention. This has been tested out of the box and rooted/unlocked bootloader/custom ROM. As far as the viewing angles go, why don't you visit one of e the 3095809385092385028365275829 threads already talking about this?
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REALLY? What model ZL are you using and what kernel and rom???? mine is the C6506 with an unlocked boot loader. Would it be possible for you to upload a comparison video with one of the aforementioned phones (or different ones of the same caliber) with a lock screen wake up test?? If you dont have a one to compare it to even a sample video of waking it up from deep sleep and also a regular wake up would be awesome. thanks in advance man I hope I can crack this problem
No such wake lag on my ZL (C6502) either. Stock rooted rom (.434) with locked BL. Screen wakes up almost instantaneously on mine (just like on my previous Xperia S). I did have a lag of about 2 sec while waking my Note2 (N7100) though. Didn't compare it to htc one or S4 but i'm sure it wouldn't be any laggier on my ZL (shall compare tomorrow when S4 arrives at stores locally here). Maybe you could upload a comparison video showing the said wake lag, if you can't then never mind. Btw, this issue seems specific to your device since nobody else here has any such complaints. So, try a factory reset, if already done then a repair using PCC/SUS. If all this doesn't work out then send it in for replacement under warranty!
About screen, I think ZL screen is stunning! It is very crisp & rather accurate to colours than say SAMOLED screens imo. I like it more than my previous Note2 screen, esp browsing webpages is like night n day! Text appears much crisper on ZL screen no matter how small it is! Viewing angles are never great on sony screens (but not too bad either), and I don't mind that, given the screen is second to none head on! If you judge the screen quality by the viewing angles (like bazillion reviewers out there) then i'm afraid Sony ZL is a wrong choice to begin with! Btw, I have no issues reading text, browsing web, viewing images/videos (with mBE2 on) with the ZL screen placed on table or bed beside me (from an angle of say 45 degrees to 135 degrees). There is a thread regarding it in the ZL general section too (many others in the XZ forums).
P.S: Having said that, I would love to see an ips panel on a sony smartphone!
you can close the thread I am the only one with the problem and IM returning this lemon I got to newegg for a full refund. I was trying to decide whether I wanted a refund or replacement and I put this thing next to my old dell streak that i bought for 220 bucks TWO YEARS AGO.... they both have 5 inch sceens... it was honestly pathetic. THE DISPLAYS LOOKED ALMOST THE SAME. No wonder the htc one threads in the xda forum have hundreds of thousand of views and the ZL doesnt have more then 10,000 in one thread. if your on the fence thinking about buying this phone... this is strictly my opinion but.... FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DONT DO IT. god bless newegg, they waived the restocking fee because my phone was defective and im getting a full refund. My ZL may have sucked but you guys were a big help. Thanks for your input dudes, I would not have known my ZL was defective if it wasnt for your posts.
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No such wake lag on my ZL (C6502) either. Stock rooted rom (.434) with locked BL. Screen wakes up almost instantaneously on mine (just like on my previous Xperia S). I did have a lag of about 2 sec while waking my Note2 (N7100) though. Didn't compare it to htc one or S4 but i'm sure it wouldn't be any laggier on my ZL (shall compare tomorrow when S4 arrives at stores locally here). Maybe you could upload a comparison video showing the said wake lag, if you can't then never mind. Btw, this issue seems specific to your device since nobody else here has any such complaints. So, try a factory reset, if already done then a repair using PCC/SUS. If all this doesn't work out then send it in for replacement under warranty!
About screen, I think ZL screen is stunning! It is very crisp & rather accurate to colours than say SAMOLED screens imo. I like it more than my previous Note2 screen, esp browsing webpages is like night n day! Text appears much crisper on ZL screen no matter how small it is! Viewing angles are never great on sony screens (but not too bad either), and I don't mind that, given the screen is second to none head on! If you judge the screen quality by the viewing angles (like bazillion reviewers out there) then i'm afraid Sony ZL is a wrong choice to begin with! Btw, I have no issues reading text, browsing web, viewing images/videos (with mBE2 on) with the ZL screen placed on table or bed beside me (from an angle of say 45 degrees to 135 degrees). There is a thread regarding it in the ZL general section too (many others in the XZ forums).
P.S: Having said that, I would love to see an ips panel on a sony smartphone!
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by the way.. I have been a sony fan my whole life and still am..... every tv i have ever purchased EVER was a sony. and they have all had good viewing angles ... and as far as cell phones go if you compare this cell phone to ANY OTHER ONE in its price range they ALL have great viewing angles. I laughed when I read that comment about sony and bad viewing angles because your screen is probably manufactured by sharp. hell it might as well say SHARP instead of sony on the phone.
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by the way.. I have been a sony fan my whole life and still am..... every tv i have ever purchased EVER was a sony. and they have all had good viewing angles ... and as far as cell phones go if you compare this cell phone to ANY OTHER ONE in its price range they ALL have great viewing angles. I laughed when I read that comment about sony and bad viewing angles because your screen is probably manufactured by sharp. hell it might as well say SHARP instead of sony on the phone.
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Sorry, but I didn't quite get what your post was about. Just for clarification when I said "sony screens" in my previous post, I was implying the displays on sony smartphones (which I thought was obvious as we are here at xda forums & not TV forums ). I am well aware that the Sony ZL has sharp display, and fyi the HTC One too has displays sourced from sharp/Samsung.
Well, I think I don't need to be a fan to appreciate a good screen! I appreciate your opinion & concern about bad viewing angles on ZL, but as I've said before it isn't an issue for me, so I hope you appreciate mine.
P.S. Btw, the other day I played with the GS4 and I still find the ZL screen better especially with regards to web browsing (better whites & crisper letters) & daylight legibility (better brightness perhaps). I still might end up buying it just for fun, or maybe NOT .
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Hello,
This is a a very short review of my imported Nexus from Expansys. This will go over more nitpick feature some us care about about in terms on quality not the phone.
On thing that is strange to me is that I have 4.01 out of the box but mine also came with a US charger, I have read that expansys sent adapters for others. If this is an import how did I get the US charger inside? Did this happen to anyone else?
The phone is very light and impressive, ICS is agreat OS right away.
Screen Issue - My eyes are sharp and within 30 seconds I can see these displays have the same issues as the GSII seen here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1320942
It very obvious on grey's but heard to see in the systems blues. The screen shots in the link is still an issue even though its a pentile display.
Pentile - I hate pentile so much its not funny, I actuallly hope they go out of business but I have to say it way easier on the eyes the the lower resolutions displays. I have to squint to see the ridges but they are still there plain as day.
If you hate pentile I would say that this has a 65-70% chance that this phone will not bother you.
Stutters - I am disappointed that 2 of 5 button press to the app drawer produces that little stutter. I can make it constantly happen and I have installed zero apps yet nor messed with widgets.
I love the phone and don't get me wrong I am not dissing the phone just an impression from someone who has had almost every model that came out.
I did not post anything positive on purpose because so many articles already did a great job of highlighting the good stuff.
...and will send it back tomorrow.
It's a pity, the display is even worse than my 2 year old LG optimus speed, and I'm not talking about the viewing angles. Colours are washed out far more as expected, the icons look terrible compared to my old phone. I tried to calibrate the display as mentioned somwhere here, didn't get better.
Besides the display the vibration sucks. I like typing text with a little vibration, but ZL is far too loud. I cant't feel vibration, I just hear it.
I wanted a new phone to make a step forward, but not in this direction...
Damn,I'm really disappointed, I thought this is THE phone for me...
So goodbye sony community!
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...and will send it back tomorrow.
It's a pity, the display is even worse than my 2 year old LG optimus speed, and I'm not talking about the viewing angles. Colours are washed out far more as expected, the icons look terrible compared to my old phone. I tried to calibrate the display as mentioned somwhere here, didn't get better.
Besides the display the vibration sucks. I like typing text with a little vibration, but ZL is far too loud. I cant't feel vibration, I just hear it.
I wanted a new phone to make a step forward, but not in this direction...
Damn,I'm really disappointed, I thought this is THE phone for me...
So goodbye sony community!
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I am planning to get the white one, then see your post.I've experienced the same screen color issue with The Xperia T
I think you mean realistic display rather than over saturated crap that's on most phones. I actually find the display
Temperature with the styling quite mature and refreshing.
The vibration needs some tweaking but it's not a deal breaker.
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Vibration can be set to low there's an option in the menu, seems like you never liked the zl from the start. Most of things you are complaining can be fixed, well except the viewing angles
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...and will send it back tomorrow.
It's a pity, the display is even worse than my 2 year old LG optimus speed, and I'm not talking about the viewing angles. Colours are washed out far more as expected, the icons look terrible compared to my old phone. I tried to calibrate the display as mentioned somwhere here, didn't get better.
Besides the display the vibration sucks. I like typing text with a little vibration, but ZL is far too loud. I cant't feel vibration, I just hear it.
I wanted a new phone to make a step forward, but not in this direction...
Damn,I'm really disappointed, I thought this is THE phone for me...
So goodbye sony community!
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I find it comical that members feel the need to open a new thread only to voice their displeasure. Thanks for your opinion and best of luck with whichever device you obtain next. I wish I had such trivial things to fixate on as vibration sensation.
I had a previous unit where the vibration was loud it made a very cheap sound. I eventually replaced the unit due to a bad camera everything was noisy. My new unit is much better, the vibration is no longer strange in any way. Maybe some bad units going around.
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I find it comical that members feel the need to open a new thread only to voice their displeasure. Thanks for your opinion and best of luck with whichever device you obtain next. I wish I had such trivial things to fixate on as vibration sensation.
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#firstworldproblems man. (shakes head)
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seems like you never liked the zl from the start.
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Lol... yes, that's why i bought it...
Do you mean the colors are washed out head on? If thats the case, then you should try getting a different unit. My screen looks really good. Its only when you tilt it does the screen wash out real quick. It sucks and detracts the quality of the phone, but the pros of the ZL far outweigh something which wont matter to me as i rarely look at the screen from an angle.
As for the vibration, I didn't notice yet before you mentioned it. But yes, it does seem a little weak.
I got my phone like 3 days ago, not having any issues with it. Screen looks great while watching videos or playing games. I don't need that blue tint or any of those oversaturated crap.
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I got my phone like 3 days ago, not having any issues with it. Screen looks great while watching videos or playing games. I don't need that blue tint or any of those oversaturated crap.
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Yep, thats why I absolutely detest AMOLED screens! However, no reason Sony couldnt have put in a LCD that looks as good as the One X. The screen on that phone is spectacular
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I find it comical that members feel the need to open a new thread only to voice their displeasure. Thanks for your opinion and best of luck with whichever device you obtain next. I wish I had such trivial things to fixate on as vibration sensation.
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+1, no need for a new thread.. if it was an in-depth review that's another story...
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I just read this thread now and I agree good luck to you on whichever phone you like and hopefully it is all you want it to be.
I have now gotten into a seemingly 6 months or less cycle before I decide to try something new...ugh
The only thing I have to say is having an unlocked phone is so much better as you are not tied into the cell providers Android update cycle (if they want it) and their bloatware.
One more thing, having had a note I am not a fan in general of the crazy colore on the AMOLED screens.
As it is it is a feeling - I just love my ZL (and my Nexus 4 is going bye bye - I do have a Nexus 10)
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I just read this thread now and I agree good luck to you on whichever phone you like and hopefully it is all you want it to be.
I have now gotten into a seemingly 6 months or less cycle before I decide to try something new...ugh
The only thing I have to say is having an unlocked phone is so much better as you are not tied into the cell providers Android update cycle (if they want it) and their bloatware.
One more thing, having had a note I am not a fan in general of the crazy colore on the AMOLED screens.
As it is it is a feeling - I just love my ZL (and my Nexus 4 is going bye bye - I do have a Nexus 10)
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As compare to Nexus 4,How is looking your Xperia ZL Colors(I'm not asking about viewing angle), is it possible to Put Stock Android in Zl if yes anyone try it,How the experience feel with stock?
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Those over saturated screens make the screen look amazing. Why did you guys choose to get an xperia? I'd rather get the s4 because its easier to root and plus there's always a ton of ROMs for it
I like Sony for their design. If samsung would change the design from plastic to something better then I wouldn't mind buying one from Samsung. The phone feel too light and like holding a toy in your hand...
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As compare to Nexus 4,How is looking your Xperia ZL Colors(I'm not asking about viewing angle), is it possible to Put Stock Android in Zl if yes anyone try it,How the experience feel with stock?
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The colors seem very comparable, neither phone has over-saturated colors. The ZL screen is gorgeous, but if you are looking for a deal, the Nexus is it for 350.
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Those over saturated screens make the screen look amazing. Why did you guys choose to get an xperia? I'd rather get the s4 because its easier to root and plus there's always a ton of ROMs for it
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Screen tech is a matter of personal choice. Those over saturated colors give me a raging headache if i look at the screen for a long time, i.e playing games, watching movies. I dont know how exactly to put this but LCD screens just LOOK more sophisticated and toned down. Uhh, like a printed sheet of paper. Unlike AMOLED which looks like a kindergarten kid went wild with crayons on the screen.
And Samsung phones easier to root? Building ROMS for them are a PITA. Ask every single dev who has completely abandoned Samsung phones. there might be plenty of ROMs sure, but all of them have some or the other problem. Not to mention the fact that Samsung are a bunch of liars.
sturmtruppler said:
...and will send it back tomorrow.
It's a pity, the display is even worse than my 2 year old LG optimus speed, and I'm not talking about the viewing angles. Colours are washed out far more as expected, the icons look terrible compared to my old phone. I tried to calibrate the display as mentioned somwhere here, didn't get better.
Besides the display the vibration sucks. I like typing text with a little vibration, but ZL is far too loud. I cant't feel vibration, I just hear it.
I wanted a new phone to make a step forward, but not in this direction...
Damn,I'm really disappointed, I thought this is THE phone for me...
So goodbye sony community!
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why did you order this phone in the first place ??? Dont you think you should read/watch reviews before getting a $600.00 phone ?
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Screen tech is a matter of personal choice. Those over saturated colors give me a raging headache if i look at the screen for a long time, i.e playing games, watching movies. I dont know how exactly to put this but LCD screens just LOOK more sophisticated and toned down. Uhh, like a printed sheet of paper. Unlike AMOLED which looks like a kindergarten kid went wild with crayons on the screen.
And Samsung phones easier to root? Building ROMS for them are a PITA. Ask every single dev who has completely abandoned Samsung phones. there might be plenty of ROMs sure, but all of them have some or the other problem. Not to mention the fact that Samsung are a bunch of liars.
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Completely agree, here. I came to the ZL from nothing but Samsung phones (Captivate, Galaxy Nexus, SGS3), and I much prefer the ZL's screen to any Samsung phone screen. For one, I can never read Sammy screens when outdoors on a cloudless sunny day, even with the brightness at maximum. I have had no issues reading the ZL screen in the same conditions, which I'll take over better viewing angles and oversaturated colors any day. As for comparing to LG screens, well, if I'm not mistaken, LG also makes amoled screens, so I wouldn't expect much different than Sammy screens there -- last I checked, the two were suing each other over the technology. The ZL compared to the N4 -- I must say, I finally saw an N4 in person this past weekend, and the screen on it is quite beautiful. I still like my ZL, though, and the lack of LTE radios in the N4 makes it a non-issue for me, no matter how pretty the phone might be (and I'm not keen on a glass back anyways).
I do agree that it would have been great had Sony used something as nice as the LCD in the One X, though. That screen was amazing looking (I had the pleasure of seeing one in person when my brother had a One X for awhile).
Good luck to the OP in finding a device that meets those expectations -- the ZL is the first AT&T LTE capable unlocked phone to hit the USA, and that's a big part of why it intrigued me, too. I suspect it'll be awhile before there's another device like that ...
Hello,
I'm very interested in buying an unlocked ZL, but the only thing that has me thinking twice is the display. Almost every review I've read mentions that the ZL has terrible viewing angles, and the contrast isn't very good.
I'm coming from a Nexus 4, and the viewing angles on it are great. The contrast isn't the best, but I'm not expecting AMOLED black levels here.
So, I just thought I'd check in here and hopefully get a response or two from people who actually own the phone. It's either this or Oppo Find 5, but this one will have tons more support. Thanks in advance!
Sent from my Wicked Fast Nexus 4
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Hello,
I'm very interested in buying an unlocked ZL, but the only thing that has me thinking twice is the display. Almost every review I've read mentions that the ZL has terrible viewing angles, and the contrast isn't very good.
I'm coming from a Nexus 4, and the viewing angles on it are great. The contrast isn't the best, but I'm not expecting AMOLED black levels here.
So, I just thought I'd check in here and hopefully get a response or two from people who actually own the phone. It's either this or Oppo Find 5, but this one will have tons more support. Thanks in advance!
Sent from my Wicked Fast Nexus 4
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Why dont you try going through a few threads here? You'll have your answer.
Short answer: Viewing angles worse than N4 even though overall screen quality is much better. If you have a habit of looking at your phones obliquely, dont buy the ZL.
I just went to a Sony store to check it out in person, I really think the display is not bad at all. you should definitely go to the store to see it on person, I am planning to get it once it will be on sale this coming week.
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I got my zl 6506 for three days now
my old one is sony lt29i first time compare to my lt29i
it looks not very bright not colorfully but after couple days
it looks not bad at all I don't know how to say it but for me
I can accept and very good device
I have had mine for 3 weeks and I think the screen is great. Viewing angles are not great, but in my daily use and in my personal opinion the screen looks great. I don't look at my screen from odd angles so it is never an issue for me. Webpages and YouTube videos look fantastic
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I just went to a Sony store to check it out in person, I really think the display is not bad at all. you should definitely go to the store to see it on person, I am planning to get it once it will be on sale this coming week.
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It will be on sale? Where? The lowest price I've seen is about $577 on amazon.
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Thanks everyone for the replies!
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Is display really as bad as people make it out to be
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I personally look the device at local Market, some of Bad issue with the screen is or May be we can say Bad-luck of Sony is that the Software UI Background Color is Grey & its not in Black color, it's the main reason the screen is not looking good & everyone judge it as a washout screen,If we change the theme of Xperia Z the Screen looking Good at All.so I think its same for ZL too.
So viewing Angle are still not good as in IPS panel are, but remember the viewing angle issue is raised in just the Case of Xperia Z/ZL Cause Sony using the same TFT panel in all of their Smartphones & since than No one Complain or Raise even about A bit for the viewing angles,
Xperia T/TX are using same TFT screen Panel but no one said in their reviews that the Viewing angles are Bad & are Washout.But there is actually need to Point out the issue because poeple Spend A lot of their Hard erning Money & in result they don't Get the good thing.
In the Same sense with our TVs Picture Settings in Our Family member Set it to Vivid, some one came(suppose Papa) and set it too Standard & you like Soft or any of Factory settings given in Picture Mode of your TV.
so the point is that the Everyone have their own Preference for the Colors & look on something.
Although we all Admit that Sony should Put the IPS Panel screen in their High End Smartphone, there is no Lag or Cons in Xperia ZL either than of slightly viewing angle, Because in Some situations we must have need for Viewing Angles(not all the time), In that condition the screen Fade out is really a shame for the owner of device as well Sony too because we having a High end smartphone and the screen is Fading in some conditional bloody angles.
I'm saying again there is no any Smartphone which is Perfect in All of their Aspects.
Htc having Heavy software,as well the Htc oneX+ is A issue with its wifi by manufacture, Some People Blaming Sony for their Late Updated Schdule for Software, But remember & check the Htc is having same thing with Software updating schedule, and Samsung having their own bloatwares type software in their mobiles. The Clean and Best nearly Stock Android you Can found in Xperia Z/ZL Smartphone in Form of Jelly Bean (4.1.2).
Also the App "screen Calibration" is putted in Xperia ZL for screen Adjustment by user Preference.
Mostly the chance is that the Latest Software May set all of the issue Regarding our Concerns.
Go in your Nearly Store & check for yourself the screen how its looking to you, leave that how its looking to another person.
God Bless you
I've been using the C6506 since April 3rd and I can honestly say that I *really* love the display. Calibrating with the WB app really helped and everything looks really sharp. I couldn't care less about the viewing angles, because honestly, how many times do I really need to look at the phone off-angle? I moved from an iPhone 5 for this phone and it's far, far better.
For those of you that have this phone, and have had it since close to it's release date, what are your opinions?
I am going to be purchasing a new phone, for use with WindMobile in Canada (i.e. it must be an AWS phone). As far as I can tell this is my best option because I use my phone mostly as a camera so my #1 interest is a camera that does not lag and will open quickly. I also am a fairly heavy user for NUMBER of apps. I have a lot installed and switch between them frequently. I don't play games or watch videos so graphics don't matter much.
The kicker here is I am REALLY hoping to keep this phone for 2 years at least. Do you think that this phone will last? Keeping in mind I don't care about being behind on new technology. I only care that it can handle my volume of use and won't sputter and choke to a slow after 6 months use like the one I have now.
I currently have an Optimus 2X but it is dying. It lags incredibly between tasks and the plastic covering the camera is poor quality and I had to rip it off so the lens is mostly unprotected now. I don't want to deal with stuff like this is I am going to buy a brand new phone. Do you think the Xperia ZL is the right choice?
p.s. I saw a review of the camera where the reviewer said that the photos look great on the BRAVIA screen but once on a computer screen are not very good. Has this been your experience? What about printing?
p.p.s. would appreciate comments about how rugged it is also as I work as a nanny with two 24 month old toddlers. Honestly I want the Z due to it's waterproof encasing but it's not sold new up here in Canada.
so my #1 interest is a camera that does not lag and will open quickly.
--> camera itself is the fastest I've seen. First thing you notice is the super smooth and responsive viewfinder.. even in low light. It always feels 60fps. I compared this to HTC ONE and it's a LOT slower..really.
About opening.. opening of the camera app isn't fastest i've seen (can take 3 secs) but because of the dedicated button you can still open it way faster than phones without button.
I also am a fairly heavy user for NUMBER of apps. I have a lot installed and switch between them frequently. I don't play games or watch videos so graphics don't matter much.
--> Ye as with all 2GB phones multitasking is almost instant and apps never really close.
The kicker here is I am REALLY hoping to keep this phone for 2 years at least. Do you think that this phone will last? Keeping in mind I don't care about being behind on new technology.
Then yes. I don't see why this phone wouldn't make it 2 years.
I only care that it can handle my volume of use and won't sputter and choke to a slow after 6 months use like the one I have now.
With 2GB ram it's pretty future proof IMO.
p.s. I saw a review of the camera where the reviewer said that the photos look great on the BRAVIA screen but once on a computer screen are not very good. Has this been your experience? What about printing?
Well, in my opinion, pictures look suberb on the 5" with bravia engine 2..really gives a wow-factor.
When you then watch them on the PC they look kinda normal/bland/boring..so its just the way you look at it
p.p.s. would appreciate comments about how rugged it is also as I work as a nanny with two 24 month old toddlers. Honestly I want the Z due to it's waterproof encasing but it's not sold new up here in Canada.
The back isn't made from glass but very grippy texture. I haven't dropped mine but the phones feels very sturdy and good quality, except for maybe the little flap on the back for sim/SD.
Honestly I think ZL is very underrated and still (even with new models like Z1) ZL is still my favorite.
Thanks for your quick quick reply!! One clarification I have to ask: I understand what you mean about quality depending on the screen. However when you look on your computer do you think the quality fits the price? Let's put this simply: I am tired of my boyfriend's iphone photos looking SOOOO much better than mine. Can I at least compete now? lol
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Thanks for your quick quick reply!! One clarification I have to ask: I understand what you mean about quality depending on the screen. However when you look on your computer do you think the quality fits the price? Let's put this simply: I am tired of my boyfriend's iphone photos looking SOOOO much better than mine. Can I at least compete now? lol
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To be honest I really like the camera but the software app just doesn't do it justice. Pictures looked a bit washed out when looked at the computer. You can still install another camera app with less compression effects.
Also, for me the camera opens very quickly, less than 1 second with the latest 267 firmware update.
The phone looks gorgeous with the incredibly small bezel for a 5 inch phone. But if you want an awesome camera phone you really should go with the Galaxy S4. Still the best midrange camera phone I've seen so far is clearly the Nokia Lumia 920 but its a Win8 phone... both phone can be easily unlocked if not offered by Wind and are AWS versions.
Also, lots of people complain about the screen being TFT which is the cheapest technology you can use for a phone nowadays. So the viewing angles aren't good but I personally don't care much. But I think you will notice it right away.
Still, for a lot of other aspects, I prefer the Sony ZL
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p.p.s. would appreciate comments about how rugged it is also as I work as a nanny with two 24 month old toddlers. Honestly I want the Z due to it's waterproof encasing but it's not sold new up here in Canada.
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the Z is available through Bell FYI.
I just traded it my s3 for an zl very disappointed in camera in dark places there is a ton of noise I have to also take multiple snaps before I can get a shot to have a properly focused pic if I use flash it works fine but using superior auto mode and in a well lit room it still doesn't compare anything to the s3 which had a very quick focus but other then that the phone is well worth it will last you 2 years if you do not abuse it only thing im concerned is the non removable battery... wonder how will it perform in 2 years from now....
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shahkam said:
I just traded it my s3 for an zl very disappointed in camera in dark places there is a ton of noise I have to also take multiple snaps before I can get a shot to have a properly focused pic if I use flash it works fine but using superior auto mode and in a well lit room it still doesn't compare anything to the s3 which had a very quick focus but other then that the phone is well worth it will last you 2 years if you do not abuse it only thing im concerned is the non removable battery... wonder how will it perform in 2 years from now....
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Do you have the latest update? A lot of reviews I saw said that there were a lot of problems before the latest update.
shahkam said:
I just traded it my s3 for an zl very disappointed in camera in dark places there is a ton of noise I have to also take multiple snaps before I can get a shot to have a properly focused pic if I use flash it works fine but using superior auto mode and in a well lit room it still doesn't compare anything to the s3 which had a very quick focus but other then that the phone is well worth it will last you 2 years if you do not abuse it only thing im concerned is the non removable battery... wonder how will it perform in 2 years from now....
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Don't use superior auto by default, it adds way too much noise. Try using normal with some basic tweaks, you will see a major difference.
Especially with the latest update.
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Well I kind of have the same problem. Own an Optimus 2x and now ordered Zl from an amazon offer (350 euros). I love the white version since - if the black back looks cheap - this is absolutely not the case with the white.
However, I am quite disappointed by the screen. You notice the viewing angles immediately and every time the phone is lying on a table in a darker room, it looks like it is showing a bright Grey picture although background is black. So I wanted to return it.
Then I thought of alternatives, but very successful.. I am looking for a phone with no amoled screen, wo no s4. I really want at least 32gb memory and would be happy if it had a working fm radio like XZL (tried Optimus G and thought that must be a bad joke). The Optimus G was nice, but fm radio crap, and due to non expendable storage, I was really missing USB otg. S4 active would be nice, but no fm radio, feels somehow big and is very overpriced. The new nexus 5 seems to only have 16gb.. LG G2 is very expensive with 32gb. And none of them has a dedicated camera button. So I guess xperia zl is a great package! If only they had included a IPS screen (which can be considered as standard today, even for cheap phones).
Today I looked at the screen in a bright room and then it looked way better than yesterday night when it was dark. So I am thinking of keeping the phone - seems like the package is quite good. Or does anyone of you habe a proposal?
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My comments:
The poor viewing angles on the screen aren't as horrible as people make it out to be, the screen is still perfectly good and quite a joy to look at. (plus if you like to be private then it stops people from seeing what you're doing easily)
Picture quality is fine, I have an unlocked bootloader(which I did before TA backups were a thing ;_ and even still everything looks great on the screen. Video quality is pretty good in my opinion. In low light, yes the picture quality does tend to suffer but it's still acceptable for it being a phone, I personally haven't tried tweaking with the settings much besides installing the Z1 camera app port.
If you want to see the quality yourself, here are some photos/videos(mind you the outdoor greenery shots were taken a while ago so the latest updates might have improved things):
http://imgur.com/a/qoqg2#0
http://youtu.be/SXxN14HdeGU
Performance has been pretty good, there are a few things I've noticed which can make it a little laggy, like setting a smaller icon size in Apex and the app Twilight can make scrolling a little laggy, but otherwise performance is snappy.
Something that might be of concern is battery life, due to the non-removeable battery. I can usually get through a day before having to charge. I get about 4-5 hours of video watching, so if I only use the screen for a few hours sporadically(15 minutes here, 15 minutes there) then I can usually push it to 24 hours.
One thing I would really suggest is getting at least a decent screen cover, if not case as well, I have one of those meifeng cases from ebay, it's decent enough quality and it's pretty thin, I don't use it every day though. But the built in screen protector is an absolute lint electromagnet, it's like it's sole purpose was to collect lint, not cool. I picked up a skinomi screen protector, just put it on top of the built in one and it works/looks fine.
One thing I like about the skinomi is that it's slightly soft, so it doesn't scratch easily, but it still a good surface for fingering.
The speaker isn't loud enough to be heard over a concert or some power tools, but if you're just at home or in the car then it's quite adequate, the headphone out is also adequate, though it can be a tad quieter than some might like, depending on headphones used.
The microphones are pretty great, that youtube video? The music in person was ear-screeching, yet somehow the microphones managed to pick everything else up pretty well.
The IR Blaster is fun if you normally use multiple remotes for your home.
I can't really think of anything else at the moment, but feel free to ask and I'll try to answer.
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Shadowman19: Personally I find the viewing angles acceptable knowing that I'm probably never really going to be looking at my phone from these angles anyways, 99% of the time I'm looking at it is straight on.
Personally I don't own a ZL(I currently own an Ion), but i have seen a couple of Z's(the Z screen is similar to the ZL). Honestly, I don't see the difference when tilting the phone(I can definitely see it on my ion). The poor viewing angle claims are exaggerated.
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Sony Xperia XZ Premium, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Sony Xperia XZ Premium is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
A truly amazing device
This is the most exciting phone I ever got thanks to its impressive performances, unique features and classy yet scandalously shiny look (Chrome version). A genuine piece of art!
Just disapointed Sony ditched some good things, like the FM tuner.. :'-(
There's no category to rate touchscreen performance for some reason. In my case the known issue with the touchscreen missing clicks and swipes is definitely there. It is quite annoying, since in my previous phone - Xperia XZ - touchscreen was performing flawlessly.
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There's no category to rate touchscreen performance for some reason. In my case the known issue with the touchscreen missing clicks and swipes is definitely there. It is quite annoying, since in my previous phone - Xperia XZ - touchscreen was performing flawlessly.
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The problem still happens on Oreo? Mine went away after the update. You can also try changing your resolution to near 4K. It also worked for my touchscreen issue
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The problem still happens on Oreo? Mine went away after the update. You can also try changing your resolution to near 4K. It also worked for my touchscreen issue
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I just got my G8142 two day ago. Just out of the box it immediately downloaded Android Oreo. I allowed it to update. Afterwards I noticed two problems: the well-known 'com.android.phone' crash (fixed by disabling 'Visual Voicemail') and the intermittent problem with missed touches and swipes.
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I just got my G8142 two day ago. Just out of the box it immediately downloaded Android Oreo. I allowed it to update. Afterwards I noticed two problems: the well-known 'com.android.phone' crash (fixed by disabling 'Visual Voicemail') and the intermittent problem with missed touches and swipes.
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I'd get it exchanged if the touchscreen issues bothers you, if you still can
i Love it,
but if you live in the USA, dont buy it, there is no Support in here if the screen gets broken. You have to go abroad and then ask the abroad SAT to fix it for you. I will have to do it in Spain.
I love my phone except for the screen brightness issue. It's winter now it's impossible to use the phone during my commute since the screen flickers so much with the street lights. I wish I didn't update to Oreo.
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I love my phone except for the screen brightness issue. It's winter now it's impossible to use the phone during my commute since the screen flickers so much with the street lights. I wish I didn't update to Oreo.
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well can't you just flash android 7 back?
I looked at this phone for a long time and I thought that it was the ugliest one I have ever seen, with that said I bought it because it is the best looking phone I have ever seen and it is the fastest one.
It's a great phone, everything is a wow, the plastic frame is the only point bother to me
hittori said:
i Love it,
but if you live in the USA, dont buy it, there is no Support in here if the screen gets broken. You have to go abroad and then ask the abroad SAT to fix it for you. I will have to do it in Spain.
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Screen can be bought from AliExpress and any newbie can fix it. Particularly sony phones are easier to fix
actually I fall in love my phone I had already do the 50 shaders of Sony Xperia XZ Premium and it was so hot omg
PS: love you my baby
XZ-p wasn't really bad you just need to unlock its inner beast by modding/rooting and see it for yourself.
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I looked at this phone for a long time and I thought that it was the ugliest one I have ever seen, with that said I bought it because it is the best looking phone I have ever seen and it is the fastest one.
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I haven’t bought it yet, but I will. And I had exact same thoughts as you.
droem said:
I haven’t bought it yet, but I will. And I had exact same thoughts as you.
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Maybe u r late man go for a OnePlus or s9
I need to say, that this week I switched to an Oppo Reno3 pro with Snapdragon 765 and 12GB RAM. Since this I asked myself, how I could live with the XZP for three years? It was almost the worst phone I had so far. Permanently got hot, stuck, not as fast as CPU promises, blurry photos, dark screen, apps permanently closing on switching.
Was a good choice to say goodbye to Sony after 13 years, as 1 II doesn't look promising either.
After 2 and a half years, I still love this phone, it still looks good, can see that it has good material and solid construction, the back is not far from today, it is still so premium, even better with that mirror effect it has ... I have Deepsea black.
Speaking of performance, the truth is that I can't complain much on a phone from 2 or 3 years ago, everything is fine, generally correct performance for daily tasks with that SD835, some games may not be able to with the 4GB of ram, since the Idle phone usually leaves 1.8GB RAM free and high-quality graphics games usually take up 1GB or more.
And the camera, I have professional equipment, so to make snapshots, more than enough, and xzp takes really good photos in daytime. It's a little disappointing in low light conditions, but I can fix it with manual mode and snapseed or lightroom.
The multimedia section is amazing, I have never had a phone with such a good screen, especially I like the color calibration it has, it is very pleasing to the eyes, and it looks very sharp compared to the Samsung S8, S9, It is a 4K HDR LCD. I'm glad I had it.
Once the warranty passed, I unlocked it and tried several ROMs, the best the Niaboc eXistenZpie, the most stable and most SONY, I have also tried those of Android 10, but everyone has a little bit of problems..so I'm going to stay with the eXistenZpie until it lasts (and it seems that it still have time to retire)