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[Q] HSPA+ and HSPDA Proof.

So here is my question. If you go to Settings > About Phone > Status > and then look under Mobile Network Type, it tells you which type of Network you are currently connected to.
I live in NYC and also in Washington, DC, both arees that should have patches of HSPA+, and I've never once seen my phone connect to anything higher than HSPDA.
My Question is, should it state HSPA+ in my Phone Status screen? And if so, I want proof by way of a screen shot that somebody has actually connected to HSPA+. I've had my G2 since a few days before it was released, and I check this almost everyday to see if my phone will ever display HSPA+ in the Mobile Network Type page in the settings.
Can anybody show me proof that they are on HSPA+? And I don't want to see speedtest results. Everyone claims they are on HSPA+ based on speedtest results. I want a screen shot showing this, IF it in fact does display HSPA+ under these settings when connected.
Sorry if I sound rude, I don't intend this at all, I have been wondering this for months, and have scoured the internet trying to get definitive information on this particular thing, yet to no avail.
I'm very satisfied with my phone, and in fact would recommend it to anyone in the market, I just want to see a screen shot that says HSPA+ in the settings, IF IT EVEN DOES SHOW THIS, that's all!! My phone's network connection is still pretty fast.

Because we all know the "H" could mean a number of things, it doesn't necesarily mean HSPA+ which is why T-Mobile can get away with displaying an "H" for a number of networks (not knocking T-Mobile at all, I'm a loyal subscriber).

If you consider HSPA+ to differ and to be a level above HSDPA or HSUPA, the G2 won't be able to reach it. That's because HSPA+ network can be considered multiple cell HSPA (HSPA = HSDPA & HSUPA) and HSDPA maximum throughput is 14Mb/s. That was the advertised maximum capability of the phone. Most HSPA towers (non-plus) have throughput of 2, 3, 5, 7Mbps anyway, and it's unlikely that the network differentiates between HSPA+ and HSPA. If you find yourself in an HSPA+ cell, your speeds should go as high as 14Mbps, but you may not know if it's HSDPA at it's max or HSPA+ running at a higher speed.

High Speed Packet Access (HSPA) [1] is a amalgamation of two mobile telephony protocols, High Speed Downlink Packet Access (HSDPA) and High Speed Uplink Packet Access (HSUPA), that extends and improves the performance of existing WCDMA protocols. A further standard, Evolved HSPA (also known as HSPA+), was released late in 2008 with subsequent adoption worldwide beginning in 2010... so another words hspa and hspa+ is the same thing.. but when your closer to a "4g " tower of course your internet speeds will respond faster.. to know what kind of internet your on.. go to menu, settings, about phone, than network
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hspa on mt3gs

Does this device recieve "4g" signal? more like hspa? Someone asked me if i could do it to their phone, but im not sure it there is an actual way to do it.

It does, but it doesn't take full advantage of it, you'll defenetly get faster download and upload speeds than other phones, if u root and flash a rom with the latest radio you'll be able to see the little H instead of 3g when you're receiving 4g speeds..
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sxufeastkilla said:
It does, but it doesn't take full advantage of it, you'll defenetly get faster download and upload speeds than other phones, if u root and flash a rom with the latest radio you'll be able to see the little H instead of 3g when you're receiving 4g speeds..
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Nop, H is the symbol that a European rom uses to stand for 3G speed. A rom from the US uses 3G as symbol, while Europe uses H, both may mean HSDPA (High Speed Downlink Packet Access)
4G is HSDPA+ which we don't have in our phones, even with lastes Radio.
I still wouldn't change this thing by a new iPhone 4G!

Tzatlacael said:
Nop, H is the symbol that a European rom uses to stand for 3G speed. A rom from the US uses 3G as symbol, while Europe uses H, both may mean HSDPA (High Speed Downlink Packet Access)
4G is HSDPA+ which we don't have in our phones, even with lastes Radio.
I still wouldn't change this thing by a new iPhone 4G!
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I didn't know that. Is there some more info on this 3G/H business?

That is not true as I am clearly in the United States and I see the H symbol now and never 3g and my download speeds are faster than ever.
Tzatlacael said:
Nop, H is the symbol that a European rom uses to stand for 3G speed. A rom from the US uses 3G as symbol, while Europe uses H, both may mean HSDPA (High Speed Downlink Packet Access)
4G is HSDPA+ which we don't have in our phones, even with lastes Radio.
I still wouldn't change this thing by a new iPhone 4G!
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My understanding was that we would benefit from the 4G upgrades made to towers and whatnot, but we wouldn't get 4G speeds obviously.
I was thinking it would be like a, "3.25G" ... as I think somebody said in some thread somewhere.
Somewhat related, I noticed on CM7 when my phone idles it'll say 3G, with whatever bars and then when I use the network, the 3G will become an H.
I think the confusion is because they decided to use an "H" instead of something else, so you don't know what you're on.

The latest tests I've done using the new radio and CM7 yield me around 2450 each time.
Close enough. 4G is around 2500.

PcFish said:
The latest tests I've done using the new radio and CM7 yield me around 2450 each time.
Close enough. 4G is around 2500.
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Oh wow, so I was in 4G territory here, huh. Nice
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I'm LOVING CM-7 now! In CM6 I barely got over 1 mbps download speed even with the newest radio.

Tzatlacael said:
Nop, H is the symbol that a European rom uses to stand for 3G speed. A rom from the US uses 3G as symbol, while Europe uses H, both may mean HSDPA (High Speed Downlink Packet Access)
4G is HSDPA+ which we don't have in our phones, even with lastes Radio.
I still wouldn't change this thing by a new iPhone 4G!
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Yes, thats right. No 4G on the MT3GS...
3G is pure W-CDMA/UMTS. H is the upgrade HSPA...
You can take a look on the test menu (*#*#4636#*#*) > Phone Information...
regards

iDaZzLeFatHoeZz said:
That is not true as I am clearly in the United States and I see the H symbol now and never 3g and my download speeds are faster than ever.
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It is true, I said it appears on European Roms, even if you are in the US (I am too) and use a port of a rom from a european phone/rom, you'll get the H.. Comprende?
I had a rom like that, and now on the unofficial release of the OTA, CR_Mod rom and I get the 3G just like the H and my download speeds I get only reach up to 300kps few times, and even on full 3G coverage. Most of the time it goes about 100kps most of the time... though I have the lastest radio as on last january...
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Um H comes on USA roms too that's what use to show up when I was both in 3g and 4g area when my g2 was stock...
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Speedtest
Not gonna get into the argument over what H means. I am getting almost identical bandwidth and latency results using speedtest.net before and after rooting/CM6(down 3.6Mbps/up 1.3mbps). With stock ROM it said 3G, with CM6 it says H. But there is no difference beyond that in my case at least.

New radio
Ok so after flashing the new radio my downlink jumped to 4.07mbps. The uplink was unaffected.

jrgraber said:
Ok so after flashing the new radio my downlink jumped to 4.07mbps. The uplink was unaffected.
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Yeah my up seems to be the same.
Not very good.

At my GF's house I test randomly and get about 4 - 5.3 down average, at my house I get aprox 3.5 - 4 average and both places maintain a steady 1.6 up. I've read specs on the phone that states the slide (in perfect conditions I assume) is capable of 7.2 Down...

Whoever is saying that H is european only is a moron. To clarify, when you see an H, you are connected to the "3.25"/"3.5"G network, HSDPA. When it just shows 3G, you are connected to the UTMS (3G) network. Speeds on HSDPA are significantly higher, but not the same speed as the HSDPA+, 3.75G or tmobile's "4G". Our phones do not have hardware capable of HSDPA+, just HSDPA. I get around 2-4 mbps with the radio update on hsdpa. In most areas, it seems that your phone will idle on 3G (UTMS) and when data is being actively sent/received, your phone activated HSDPA, but in some areas I've been, such as washington D.C., the phone will idle on HSDPA at all times, rather than switch between 3G and HSDPA. On some stock roms, namely sense ones, there is no separate icon for HSDPA in the framework, hence why you only see a 3G icon on said roms, but on an aosp based rom like cm6, or cm7, or arayraymod, you will see an H when connected to HSDPA.
As for the specs of the slide, yes, HSDPA is *capable*, theoretically, of that 7mbps, but real life speeds don't get that high. Similarly, hsdpa+ is theoretically capable of some 20 or 40 mbps, I don't fully remember, but real life speeds never get above 8 to 16 or something, again, I don't fully remember.
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It's always nice to see someone come into a thread like this with real information.
MusicMan374 is exactly right. The reason I bought this phone when it came out was that it was using HSDPA and would be faster than straight up 3g. And indeed it is. Like others have mentioned, typical dl speeds are in the 2 to 4 Mbps range for me, but I have gone up over 5 Mbps in some locations. I am in the Philly area and my phone idles on HSDPA (i.e. I haven't seen the "3G" symbol on any CM roms I've tried on this phone).
You can see what network type the phone is using under settings -> about phone. In the CM roms you'll find it under status -> mobile network type. Don't remember if it is in the same location for stock rom, but I remember it is there.

JTownBrewer said:
You can see what network type the phone is using under settings -> about phone. In the CM roms you'll find it under status -> mobile network type. Don't remember if it is in the same location for stock rom, but I remember it is there.
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In stock rom CR Mod actually, on Settings then About Phone then Network. I'm on stock and it says HSDPA and I have the 3G icon, in other Sense roms it always showed the H, but I been always on the same area... @[email protected]
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Tzatlacael said:
In stock rom CR Mod actually, on Settings then About Phone then Network. I'm on stock and it says HSDPA and I have the 3G icon, in other Sense roms it always showed the H, but I been always on the same area... @[email protected]
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Yes, the stock espresso rom does not show H when connected to HSDPA, it just shows 3G, but if it says HSDPA in mobile network type, you're on hsdpa. Hsdpa for me greatly increases dl speeds. When HSDPA isn't active, just regular 3g, I get about up to 1 mbps, most of the time under. Almost as bad as edge.
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Any way to increase LTE Spark signal strength?

Is there anyway to increase the signal strength of the Note 4?
I have to put the phone up in my upstairs window to get the Spark icon to come on. When I do that, it sometimes switches back to 3g.
I know the Galaxy S3 had an external antenna test port near the battery when you removed the back cover. I don't see any similar ports on the Note 4. BTW, I never used the test antenna port on my Galaxy S3 since I heard it could damage the internal antenna.
There seems to be some electical contacts under the cover of the Note 4. Any ideas on what they are?
I contacted Wilson Electronics and a rep there told me that they aren't allowed to boost or amplify the Spark signal. The FCC won't allow it and Sprint in clamping down on this technology because they want to stay ahead of their competitors.
http://www.wilsonelectronics.com/
I remember people using Pringle cans in the old days with their wireless routers.
Is it possible to extend the Note 4 antenna with a wire? I'm just shooting in the dark.
Thanks.
Slash

I have an issue where I will be getting LTE when the phone is sleeping and as soon as I wake it, the phone will drop to 3G. As funny as it sounds I used a plastic ruler to wake up the phone so I my hands or arms would not interfere with the signal and it still does it. This must be some kind of software thing because I used Open Signal to monitor the bands and it legitimately connects to LTE while the phone is sleeping and then switches to 3G when it comes out of sleep. So if I am ever downloading big files or uploading files I usually do it overnight where I will not bother the phone.
I get 2 bars LTE at all times and full signal 3G.

Same problem here. Drops to 3g like hot potato...nexus 5 on my other line holds on to lte b41 like it's life depended on it....

I don't have the note 4 currently (Note 2).
However, with LTE or 3G a "corner reflector" works with the Note 2.
Basically, cut out a box so you're left with only 3 "sides" in a corner, and line it with foil. (Trial and error on the size, I think 12" would be overkill but should work, although a smaller one would as well).
Then, you use a block of foam or such to prop the device somewhere within the corner and also "aim" the corner reflector towards a tower. By trial and error, you can find the best position. It's helped if there's a dialing code (like ##DEBUG# on note 2) that lets you monitor signal strength while you move things around. The trial and error can take some effort...
Wikipedia page on corner reflectors
Example of DIY corner reflector instructions for WiFi antennas
Adding the corner reflector makes the omnidirectional antenna act more like a directional antenna.
If you knew exactly where in the Note 4 the antenna(s) are and what frequency(s), you could calculate out the ideal size of the reflector and position for the device inside the reflector, but I found it easy enough to just experimentally move things around with trial and error.

I've got the same issue. What sad is my area is spark enabled so I should be able to connect to Sprint's 800 mhz (or 850 mhz?) lte network or all. Three frequencies and be on spark. But nope, I'm on crappy 3g but my Note 3will connect to lte.
My Note 4 will connect to lte but it won't hold a connection as good as the Note 3.

Thanks for the reflector info. I will attempt this tonight.
Slash.

DarkManX4lf said:
I've got the same issue. What sad is my area is spark enabled so I should be able to connect to Sprint's 800 mhz (or 850 mhz?) lte network or all. Three frequencies and be on spark. But nope, I'm on crappy 3g but my Note 3will connect to lte.
My Note 4 will connect to lte but it won't hold a connection as good as the Note 3.
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Got your MSL? Go into ##DATA# navigate to LTE/Band Priority and set Band 41 as 1. reboot and see if LTE will hold..

jauger said:
Got your MSL? Go into ##DATA# navigate to LTE/Band Priority and set Band 41 as 1. reboot and see if LTE will hold..
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I'll give that a shot but I'm not sure it makes sense.

DarkManX4lf said:
I'll give that a shot but I'm not sure it makes sense.
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Most people confuse LTE with Spark, two totally different things. I see in your profile you are in NYC where Spark has rolled out. A lot of forums there's talk about the N4 having a problem switching bands, one work around is setting Band 41 to 1....

jauger said:
Most people confuse LTE with Spark, two totally different things. I see in your profile you are in NYC where Spark has rolled out. A lot of forums there's talk about the N4 having a problem switching bands, one work around is setting Band 41 to 1....
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What I meant was why make the 2.5ghz band the higher priority? Why not make band 26 (800mhz)the higher priority?
Since my issue is indoors and 800mhz penetrates walls better than 2.5ghz, I figure the priority should be band 26, 25 and Last would be 41?

DarkManX4lf said:
What I meant was why make the 2.5ghz band the higher priority? Why not make band 26 (800mhz)the higher priority?
Since my issue is indoors and 800mhz penetrates walls better than 2.5ghz, I figure the priority should be band 26, 25 and Last would be 41?
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My thought as well, but seems to be the way to make the N4 switch bands like it should. Like I said I'm reading this in other forums so I figured it might help ya out....:good:

jauger said:
My thought as well, but seems to be the way to make the N4 switch bands like it should. Like I said I'm reading this in other forums so I figured it might help ya out....:good:
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Ah ok cool. Thanks. I'll try out both configurations and see how it works out.

DarkManX4lf said:
What I meant was why make the 2.5ghz band the higher priority? Why not make band 26 (800mhz)the higher priority?
Since my issue is indoors and 800mhz penetrates walls better than 2.5ghz, I figure the priority should be band 26, 25 and Last would be 41?
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Because Band 26 has not rolled out extensively as of yet, Go to antenna search and see what is rolled out in your area.
NEXTEL LICENSE HOLDINGS 4, INC. Towers are generally listed as such (Band 25 and 26) look at the operating frequency 1900 (Band 25) 860 (Band 26) (if live)
Clearwire Spectrum Holdings Iii, Llc Towers or Sprint Spectrum LLP is Band 41, if dual radios exist in your area or if you area is completely converted.
Change Band priorities is an excellent idea, especially if you are in a Spark area.

ninoriff said:
Because Band 26 has not rolled out extensively as of yet, Go to antenna search and see what is rolled out in your area.
NEXTEL LICENSE HOLDINGS 4, INC. Towers are generally listed as such (Band 25 and 26) look at the operating frequency 1900 (Band 25) 860 (Band 26) (if live)
Clearwire Spectrum Holdings Iii, Llc Towers or Sprint Spectrum LLP is Band 41, if dual radios exist in your area or if you area is completely converted.
Change Band priorities is an excellent idea, especially if you are in a Spark area.
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I'll take a look at antenna search but based on Sprint, my area is Spark enabled, which I thought means all 3 bands are available. Or am I wrong?

Changing band priority does not work..I've tried it..

Check out Signal Check in the play store too, will show you what you are on.... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blueline.signalchecklite&hl=en

The network will ultimately decide where to put your device based on load balancing and bandwidth/airlink saturation. It typically goes B41,B25,B26. All that changing band priorities does is change what your phone scans for first. Once connected, it's up to the network what band you end up on.

I think something is wrong with the note 4. I am in downtown baltimore., which is supposed to have excellent SPARK coverage. I'm sitting here in my apartment and very very rarely the phone does somehow connect to LTE spark. When it is connected I get somewhere between 6mbps - 35mbps and the signal is -90 to -100 which is pretty good for LTE. As I'm flying along enjoying my 3 minutes of LTE spark, my phone just decides that LTE sucks and it should switch to the 3g signal which gives me 0.12 mbps (f***ing sprint). Then no matter what I do, how many times I do ##72786#, how many times I restart my phone, or turn mobile data on/off it still wont get LTE back..until randomly a couple hours later. Is my note 4 retarded?? The reason I don't think it's a signal issue is that I often get > 30mbps when I am connected. This has to be some software issue where the note 4 thinks that the 0.12mbps 3g signal is somehow "Stronger" than a 35mbps LTE signal.

ak2pacalypse said:
I think something is wrong with the note 4. I am in downtown baltimore., which is supposed to have excellent SPARK coverage. I'm sitting here in my apartment and very very rarely the phone does somehow connect to LTE spark. When it is connected I get somewhere between 6mbps - 35mbps and the signal is -90 to -100 which is pretty good for LTE. As I'm flying along enjoying my 3 minutes of LTE spark, my phone just decides that LTE sucks and it should switch to the 3g signal which gives me 0.12 mbps (f***ing sprint). Then no matter what I do, how many times I do ##72786#, how many times I restart my phone, or turn mobile data on/off it still wont get LTE back..until randomly a couple hours later. Is my note 4 retarded?? The reason I don't think it's a signal issue is that I often get > 30mbps when I am connected. This has to be some software issue where the note 4 thinks that the 0.12mbps 3g signal is somehow "Stronger" than a 35mbps LTE signal.
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I agree, I'm in Chicago-land and when i get Spark I always get 1 bar and than it switches to 3g

DarkManX4lf said:
What I meant was why make the 2.5ghz band the higher priority? Why not make band 26 (800mhz)the higher priority?
Since my issue is indoors and 800mhz penetrates walls better than 2.5ghz, I figure the priority should be band 26, 25 and Last would be 41?
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By default the band priority is Band 25 - 1, Band 25 - 2, and Band 41 - 3. So the phone is already set up correctly as far as priority.
Also as has been stated LTE and Spark are not the same thing. They are two seperate bands. By default the phone tries to use Spark. If it can't it then switches to LTE and if it still has issues it switches to 3G..

sprint spark sprint galaxy note 4

how can i make spark faster on my sprint note 4? it says i am in a spark area and i am only getting 2mbps that is ridiculous
http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp?ECID=vanity:coverage#!/ it says my area has sprint spark and it is on the "best" coverage wise

Can't see your coverage without your zip code.

w7excursion said:
Can't see your coverage without your zip code.
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It says best and its still slow keeps saying i am on band 26 how do i switch to band 41

Is that exactly where you're at? Input an intersection closest to your home and see what it says. Does going outside make a difference? Update your profile lately followed by a long battery pull? If none of that helps then see what sprint says. I don't have spark where I'm at, just regular lte.

w7excursion said:
Is that exactly where you're at? Input an intersection closest to your home and see what it says. Does going outside make a difference? Update your profile lately followed by a long battery pull? If none of that helps then see what sprint says. I don't have spark where I'm at, just regular lte.
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yea i put an intersection and it is a spark area. the rest surrounding it is lte. i used signalcheck pro and it says i am on band 26. isnt 41 spark?

infamouzwt said:
yea i put an intersection and it is a spark area. the rest surrounding it is lte. i used signalcheck pro and it says i am on band 26. isnt 41 spark?
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and i chatted with sprint and they told me this area has spark now. i think they are lying to me lol

Can't think of much except trying ##72786# and if that doesn't work call tech support and see if your SIM card was setup correctly in the system. Are you on the stock Rom? Factory reset?

infamouzwt said:
yea i put an intersection and it is a spark area. the rest surrounding it is lte. i used signalcheck pro and it says i am on band 26. isnt 41 spark?
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If I'm not mistaken, Spark adds bands 26 and 41 to the standard LTE band 25.
On a recent trip to Orlando/Disney World, I did some prioritizing on the bands and had success on first try. I was streaming Netflix via LTE to hotspot to roku 3 to TV- indoors. And had good coverage most of the trip. Plus downloading gigs of data.
Band 41- fast outdoors but not so penetrating for business structures
Band 26- lower frequency penetrating LTE
Band 25- not as penetrating as band 26 and also the common LTE band used by non-Spark LTE phones and towers. Potentially overcrowded.
I don't know why but Spark phones priority should be prioritized away from band 25 but currently default them as highest priority band. In theory, band 41 should be highest for outdoors, band 26 would be priority for indoors, if available and penetration hinders band 41. When higher priority bands unavailable reverting to band 25. By then you may prefer Wi-Fi to band 25. Apparently the same applies to band 26 in some locations. It's all about location and availability; home Wi-Fi would most likely be preferred over Spark but motel/resort low-valued-complimentary Wi-Fi with browser authorization/TOS may not.
Got your MSL code? Try this prioritizing below using ##3282# LTE/LTE priority. I did this rather blindly, not looking at connection speed or band utilized. I get LTE at home too. I don't think it's Spark but the settings are not interfering with LTE bands as far as I can tell.
You should at least see band 41 outside, if within range. Indoors, it may revert to band 26, if available.

samep said:
If I'm not mistaken, Spark adds bands 26 and 41 to the standard LTE band 25.
On a recent trip to Orlando/Disney World, I did some prioritizing on the bands and had success on first try. I was streaming Netflix via LTE to hotspot to roku 3 to TV- indoors. And had good coverage most of the trip. Plus downloading gigs of data.
Band 41- fast outdoors but not so penetrating for business structures
Band 26- lower frequency penetrating LTE
Band 25- not as penetrating as band 26 and also the common LTE band used by non-Spark phones and towers. overcrowded.
I don't know but Spark phones priority should be prioritized away from band 25 but use them as highest band by default. In theory, band 41 should be highest for outdoors, band 26 would be priority for indoors, as available. By then you may prefer Wi-Fi to band 25.
Got your MSL code? Try this prioritizing below using ##3282# LTE/LTE priority. I did this rather blindly, not looking at connection speed or band utilized. I get LTE at home too. I don't think it's Spark but the settings are not interfering with LTE bands as far as I can tell.
You should at least see band 41 outside, if within range. Indoors, it may revert to band 26, if available.
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Thanks for replying. This is how I have it set up. I'm guessing its just the area is super slow or something.

samep said:
If I'm not mistaken, Spark adds bands 26 and 41 to the standard LTE band 25.
On a recent trip to Orlando/Disney World, I did some prioritizing on the bands and had success on first try. I was streaming Netflix via LTE to hotspot to roku 3 to TV- indoors. And had good coverage most of the trip. Plus downloading gigs of data.
Band 41- fast outdoors but not so penetrating for business structures
Band 26- lower frequency penetrating LTE
Band 25- not as penetrating as band 26 and also the common LTE band used by non-Spark LTE phones and towers. Potentially overcrowded.
I don't know why but Spark phones priority should be prioritized away from band 25 but currently default them as highest priority band. In theory, band 41 should be highest for outdoors, band 26 would be priority for indoors, if available and penetration hinders band 41. When higher priority bands unavailable reverting to band 25. By then you may prefer Wi-Fi to band 25. Apparently the same applies to band 26 in some locations. It's all about location and availability; home Wi-Fi would most likely be preferred over Spark but motel/resort low-valued-complimentary Wi-Fi with browser authorization/TOS may not.
Got your MSL code? Try this prioritizing below using ##3282# LTE/LTE priority. I did this rather blindly, not looking at connection speed or band utilized. I get LTE at home too. I don't think it's Spark but the settings are not interfering with LTE bands as far as I can tell.
You should at least see band 41 outside, if within range. Indoors, it may revert to band 26, if available.
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Does anyone have proof changing these helps? I changed mine and forgot the screenshot how the default was setup does anyone know the default arrangement?

infamouzwt said:
yea i put an intersection and it is a spark area. the rest surrounding it is lte. i used signalcheck pro and it says i am on band 26. isnt 41 spark?
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Where do you see the band number?

xbmoyx said:
Does anyone have proof changing these helps? I changed mine and forgot the screenshot how the default was setup does anyone know the default arrangement?
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When I was vacation, my indoor 4G data was sporadic. I was getting a lot reverting to 3G or a spinning effect like a loss of sync.
There was a persistent mod I tried in KitKat that didn't seem to work; a lot of waiting to sync. The settings I posted were very stable and quickly synced in the Orlando area. Very few dead data spots and most of those were underground attractions.
I do believe band 25 was highest by default. I think I switched bands 25 and 41 but not positive. I recall looking this up because that seems to be a non spark area setting. Ideally, refreshing the PRL/Profile would set the priority bands based on location/coverage but I don't think it does. Non spark as default on a spark enabled phone isn't ideal if the spark settings have no impact on non spark areas' reception. IMO, there is no impact so the default settings are incorrect; these are ideal. But slow data is slow data. I was able to hold a steady HD stream for my Roku, indoors with it.

[Q] Disable Band 25 B25 or Force Band 41 B41 , possible ?

Greetings,
So, after 10 years with VZW I have switched back to Sprint. I got this really awsome Samsung Galaxy Note 4 which I thought I wouldn't like but actually ended up loving. HTC I still miss you.
What I would like to do is completely disable LTE Band 25. Or FORCE Band 41 connection. Possible? How?
I have found many a threads for other devices about disabling bands 26 and 41, successful. Also one about disabling Band 25, unsuccessful.
Then many threads for other devices about changing band priority. Which I have done. However some suggest that this band priority change only applies to the inital LTE scan at boot, true?
I get very poor band 25 speeds at my home. VERY POOR like 200kbps to 600kbps. Some rooms in my home I will switch to Band 41, with speeds 1Mbps to 14Mbps. If I goto another room, it will stay on B41 for a little while but eventually switch back to B25. But honestly, if I can't get band 41, I would rather be 3G than on B25.
Anyone know how I can disable band 25 ? Or force band 41 ? Or some dirty hack messing with band 25 table selection/connection criteria that would make it always fail to connect to that band?
Thank for any insight,
-TheHoovie

thehoovie said:
Greetings,
So, after 10 years with VZW I have switched back to Sprint. I got this really awsome Samsung Galaxy Note 4 which I thought I wouldn't like but actually ended up loving. HTC I still miss you.
What I would like to do is completely disable LTE Band 25. Or FORCE Band 41 connection. Possible? How?
I have found many a threads for other devices about disabling bands 26 and 41, successful. Also one about disabling Band 25, unsuccessful.
Then many threads for other devices about changing band priority. Which I have done. However some suggest that this band priority change only applies to the inital LTE scan at boot, true?
I get very poor band 25 speeds at my home. VERY POOR like 200kbps to 600kbps. Some rooms in my home I will switch to Band 41, with speeds 1Mbps to 14Mbps. If I goto another room, it will stay on B41 for a little while but eventually switch back to B25. But honestly, if I can't get band 41, I would rather be 3G than on B25.
Anyone know how I can disable band 25 ? Or force band 41 ? Or some dirty hack messing with band 25 table selection/connection criteria that would make it always fail to connect to that band?
Thank for any insight,
-TheHoovie
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I think this question was asked awhile back and I believe the answer was that it wasn't possible :crying: but maybe someone else can chime in if it is possible. But from my memory, I believe it wasn't possible