sprint spark sprint galaxy note 4 - Sprint Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

how can i make spark faster on my sprint note 4? it says i am in a spark area and i am only getting 2mbps that is ridiculous
http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp?ECID=vanity:coverage#!/ it says my area has sprint spark and it is on the "best" coverage wise

Can't see your coverage without your zip code.

w7excursion said:
Can't see your coverage without your zip code.
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It says best and its still slow keeps saying i am on band 26 how do i switch to band 41

Is that exactly where you're at? Input an intersection closest to your home and see what it says. Does going outside make a difference? Update your profile lately followed by a long battery pull? If none of that helps then see what sprint says. I don't have spark where I'm at, just regular lte.

w7excursion said:
Is that exactly where you're at? Input an intersection closest to your home and see what it says. Does going outside make a difference? Update your profile lately followed by a long battery pull? If none of that helps then see what sprint says. I don't have spark where I'm at, just regular lte.
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yea i put an intersection and it is a spark area. the rest surrounding it is lte. i used signalcheck pro and it says i am on band 26. isnt 41 spark?

infamouzwt said:
yea i put an intersection and it is a spark area. the rest surrounding it is lte. i used signalcheck pro and it says i am on band 26. isnt 41 spark?
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and i chatted with sprint and they told me this area has spark now. i think they are lying to me lol

Can't think of much except trying ##72786# and if that doesn't work call tech support and see if your SIM card was setup correctly in the system. Are you on the stock Rom? Factory reset?

infamouzwt said:
yea i put an intersection and it is a spark area. the rest surrounding it is lte. i used signalcheck pro and it says i am on band 26. isnt 41 spark?
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If I'm not mistaken, Spark adds bands 26 and 41 to the standard LTE band 25.
On a recent trip to Orlando/Disney World, I did some prioritizing on the bands and had success on first try. I was streaming Netflix via LTE to hotspot to roku 3 to TV- indoors. And had good coverage most of the trip. Plus downloading gigs of data.
Band 41- fast outdoors but not so penetrating for business structures
Band 26- lower frequency penetrating LTE
Band 25- not as penetrating as band 26 and also the common LTE band used by non-Spark LTE phones and towers. Potentially overcrowded.
I don't know why but Spark phones priority should be prioritized away from band 25 but currently default them as highest priority band. In theory, band 41 should be highest for outdoors, band 26 would be priority for indoors, if available and penetration hinders band 41. When higher priority bands unavailable reverting to band 25. By then you may prefer Wi-Fi to band 25. Apparently the same applies to band 26 in some locations. It's all about location and availability; home Wi-Fi would most likely be preferred over Spark but motel/resort low-valued-complimentary Wi-Fi with browser authorization/TOS may not.
Got your MSL code? Try this prioritizing below using ##3282# LTE/LTE priority. I did this rather blindly, not looking at connection speed or band utilized. I get LTE at home too. I don't think it's Spark but the settings are not interfering with LTE bands as far as I can tell.
You should at least see band 41 outside, if within range. Indoors, it may revert to band 26, if available.

samep said:
If I'm not mistaken, Spark adds bands 26 and 41 to the standard LTE band 25.
On a recent trip to Orlando/Disney World, I did some prioritizing on the bands and had success on first try. I was streaming Netflix via LTE to hotspot to roku 3 to TV- indoors. And had good coverage most of the trip. Plus downloading gigs of data.
Band 41- fast outdoors but not so penetrating for business structures
Band 26- lower frequency penetrating LTE
Band 25- not as penetrating as band 26 and also the common LTE band used by non-Spark phones and towers. overcrowded.
I don't know but Spark phones priority should be prioritized away from band 25 but use them as highest band by default. In theory, band 41 should be highest for outdoors, band 26 would be priority for indoors, as available. By then you may prefer Wi-Fi to band 25.
Got your MSL code? Try this prioritizing below using ##3282# LTE/LTE priority. I did this rather blindly, not looking at connection speed or band utilized. I get LTE at home too. I don't think it's Spark but the settings are not interfering with LTE bands as far as I can tell.
You should at least see band 41 outside, if within range. Indoors, it may revert to band 26, if available.
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Thanks for replying. This is how I have it set up. I'm guessing its just the area is super slow or something.

samep said:
If I'm not mistaken, Spark adds bands 26 and 41 to the standard LTE band 25.
On a recent trip to Orlando/Disney World, I did some prioritizing on the bands and had success on first try. I was streaming Netflix via LTE to hotspot to roku 3 to TV- indoors. And had good coverage most of the trip. Plus downloading gigs of data.
Band 41- fast outdoors but not so penetrating for business structures
Band 26- lower frequency penetrating LTE
Band 25- not as penetrating as band 26 and also the common LTE band used by non-Spark LTE phones and towers. Potentially overcrowded.
I don't know why but Spark phones priority should be prioritized away from band 25 but currently default them as highest priority band. In theory, band 41 should be highest for outdoors, band 26 would be priority for indoors, if available and penetration hinders band 41. When higher priority bands unavailable reverting to band 25. By then you may prefer Wi-Fi to band 25. Apparently the same applies to band 26 in some locations. It's all about location and availability; home Wi-Fi would most likely be preferred over Spark but motel/resort low-valued-complimentary Wi-Fi with browser authorization/TOS may not.
Got your MSL code? Try this prioritizing below using ##3282# LTE/LTE priority. I did this rather blindly, not looking at connection speed or band utilized. I get LTE at home too. I don't think it's Spark but the settings are not interfering with LTE bands as far as I can tell.
You should at least see band 41 outside, if within range. Indoors, it may revert to band 26, if available.
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Does anyone have proof changing these helps? I changed mine and forgot the screenshot how the default was setup does anyone know the default arrangement?

infamouzwt said:
yea i put an intersection and it is a spark area. the rest surrounding it is lte. i used signalcheck pro and it says i am on band 26. isnt 41 spark?
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Where do you see the band number?

xbmoyx said:
Does anyone have proof changing these helps? I changed mine and forgot the screenshot how the default was setup does anyone know the default arrangement?
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When I was vacation, my indoor 4G data was sporadic. I was getting a lot reverting to 3G or a spinning effect like a loss of sync.
There was a persistent mod I tried in KitKat that didn't seem to work; a lot of waiting to sync. The settings I posted were very stable and quickly synced in the Orlando area. Very few dead data spots and most of those were underground attractions.
I do believe band 25 was highest by default. I think I switched bands 25 and 41 but not positive. I recall looking this up because that seems to be a non spark area setting. Ideally, refreshing the PRL/Profile would set the priority bands based on location/coverage but I don't think it does. Non spark as default on a spark enabled phone isn't ideal if the spark settings have no impact on non spark areas' reception. IMO, there is no impact so the default settings are incorrect; these are ideal. But slow data is slow data. I was able to hold a steady HD stream for my Roku, indoors with it.

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Any way to increase LTE Spark signal strength?

Is there anyway to increase the signal strength of the Note 4?
I have to put the phone up in my upstairs window to get the Spark icon to come on. When I do that, it sometimes switches back to 3g.
I know the Galaxy S3 had an external antenna test port near the battery when you removed the back cover. I don't see any similar ports on the Note 4. BTW, I never used the test antenna port on my Galaxy S3 since I heard it could damage the internal antenna.
There seems to be some electical contacts under the cover of the Note 4. Any ideas on what they are?
I contacted Wilson Electronics and a rep there told me that they aren't allowed to boost or amplify the Spark signal. The FCC won't allow it and Sprint in clamping down on this technology because they want to stay ahead of their competitors.
http://www.wilsonelectronics.com/
I remember people using Pringle cans in the old days with their wireless routers.
Is it possible to extend the Note 4 antenna with a wire? I'm just shooting in the dark.
Thanks.
Slash
I have an issue where I will be getting LTE when the phone is sleeping and as soon as I wake it, the phone will drop to 3G. As funny as it sounds I used a plastic ruler to wake up the phone so I my hands or arms would not interfere with the signal and it still does it. This must be some kind of software thing because I used Open Signal to monitor the bands and it legitimately connects to LTE while the phone is sleeping and then switches to 3G when it comes out of sleep. So if I am ever downloading big files or uploading files I usually do it overnight where I will not bother the phone.
I get 2 bars LTE at all times and full signal 3G.
Same problem here. Drops to 3g like hot potato...nexus 5 on my other line holds on to lte b41 like it's life depended on it....
I don't have the note 4 currently (Note 2).
However, with LTE or 3G a "corner reflector" works with the Note 2.
Basically, cut out a box so you're left with only 3 "sides" in a corner, and line it with foil. (Trial and error on the size, I think 12" would be overkill but should work, although a smaller one would as well).
Then, you use a block of foam or such to prop the device somewhere within the corner and also "aim" the corner reflector towards a tower. By trial and error, you can find the best position. It's helped if there's a dialing code (like ##DEBUG# on note 2) that lets you monitor signal strength while you move things around. The trial and error can take some effort...
Wikipedia page on corner reflectors
Example of DIY corner reflector instructions for WiFi antennas
Adding the corner reflector makes the omnidirectional antenna act more like a directional antenna.
If you knew exactly where in the Note 4 the antenna(s) are and what frequency(s), you could calculate out the ideal size of the reflector and position for the device inside the reflector, but I found it easy enough to just experimentally move things around with trial and error.
I've got the same issue. What sad is my area is spark enabled so I should be able to connect to Sprint's 800 mhz (or 850 mhz?) lte network or all. Three frequencies and be on spark. But nope, I'm on crappy 3g but my Note 3will connect to lte.
My Note 4 will connect to lte but it won't hold a connection as good as the Note 3.
Thanks for the reflector info. I will attempt this tonight.
Slash.
DarkManX4lf said:
I've got the same issue. What sad is my area is spark enabled so I should be able to connect to Sprint's 800 mhz (or 850 mhz?) lte network or all. Three frequencies and be on spark. But nope, I'm on crappy 3g but my Note 3will connect to lte.
My Note 4 will connect to lte but it won't hold a connection as good as the Note 3.
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Got your MSL? Go into ##DATA# navigate to LTE/Band Priority and set Band 41 as 1. reboot and see if LTE will hold..
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Got your MSL? Go into ##DATA# navigate to LTE/Band Priority and set Band 41 as 1. reboot and see if LTE will hold..
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I'll give that a shot but I'm not sure it makes sense.
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I'll give that a shot but I'm not sure it makes sense.
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Most people confuse LTE with Spark, two totally different things. I see in your profile you are in NYC where Spark has rolled out. A lot of forums there's talk about the N4 having a problem switching bands, one work around is setting Band 41 to 1....
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Most people confuse LTE with Spark, two totally different things. I see in your profile you are in NYC where Spark has rolled out. A lot of forums there's talk about the N4 having a problem switching bands, one work around is setting Band 41 to 1....
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What I meant was why make the 2.5ghz band the higher priority? Why not make band 26 (800mhz)the higher priority?
Since my issue is indoors and 800mhz penetrates walls better than 2.5ghz, I figure the priority should be band 26, 25 and Last would be 41?
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What I meant was why make the 2.5ghz band the higher priority? Why not make band 26 (800mhz)the higher priority?
Since my issue is indoors and 800mhz penetrates walls better than 2.5ghz, I figure the priority should be band 26, 25 and Last would be 41?
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My thought as well, but seems to be the way to make the N4 switch bands like it should. Like I said I'm reading this in other forums so I figured it might help ya out....:good:
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My thought as well, but seems to be the way to make the N4 switch bands like it should. Like I said I'm reading this in other forums so I figured it might help ya out....:good:
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Ah ok cool. Thanks. I'll try out both configurations and see how it works out.
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What I meant was why make the 2.5ghz band the higher priority? Why not make band 26 (800mhz)the higher priority?
Since my issue is indoors and 800mhz penetrates walls better than 2.5ghz, I figure the priority should be band 26, 25 and Last would be 41?
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Because Band 26 has not rolled out extensively as of yet, Go to antenna search and see what is rolled out in your area.
NEXTEL LICENSE HOLDINGS 4, INC. Towers are generally listed as such (Band 25 and 26) look at the operating frequency 1900 (Band 25) 860 (Band 26) (if live)
Clearwire Spectrum Holdings Iii, Llc Towers or Sprint Spectrum LLP is Band 41, if dual radios exist in your area or if you area is completely converted.
Change Band priorities is an excellent idea, especially if you are in a Spark area.
ninoriff said:
Because Band 26 has not rolled out extensively as of yet, Go to antenna search and see what is rolled out in your area.
NEXTEL LICENSE HOLDINGS 4, INC. Towers are generally listed as such (Band 25 and 26) look at the operating frequency 1900 (Band 25) 860 (Band 26) (if live)
Clearwire Spectrum Holdings Iii, Llc Towers or Sprint Spectrum LLP is Band 41, if dual radios exist in your area or if you area is completely converted.
Change Band priorities is an excellent idea, especially if you are in a Spark area.
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I'll take a look at antenna search but based on Sprint, my area is Spark enabled, which I thought means all 3 bands are available. Or am I wrong?
Changing band priority does not work..I've tried it..
Check out Signal Check in the play store too, will show you what you are on.... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blueline.signalchecklite&hl=en
The network will ultimately decide where to put your device based on load balancing and bandwidth/airlink saturation. It typically goes B41,B25,B26. All that changing band priorities does is change what your phone scans for first. Once connected, it's up to the network what band you end up on.
I think something is wrong with the note 4. I am in downtown baltimore., which is supposed to have excellent SPARK coverage. I'm sitting here in my apartment and very very rarely the phone does somehow connect to LTE spark. When it is connected I get somewhere between 6mbps - 35mbps and the signal is -90 to -100 which is pretty good for LTE. As I'm flying along enjoying my 3 minutes of LTE spark, my phone just decides that LTE sucks and it should switch to the 3g signal which gives me 0.12 mbps (f***ing sprint). Then no matter what I do, how many times I do ##72786#, how many times I restart my phone, or turn mobile data on/off it still wont get LTE back..until randomly a couple hours later. Is my note 4 retarded?? The reason I don't think it's a signal issue is that I often get > 30mbps when I am connected. This has to be some software issue where the note 4 thinks that the 0.12mbps 3g signal is somehow "Stronger" than a 35mbps LTE signal.
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I think something is wrong with the note 4. I am in downtown baltimore., which is supposed to have excellent SPARK coverage. I'm sitting here in my apartment and very very rarely the phone does somehow connect to LTE spark. When it is connected I get somewhere between 6mbps - 35mbps and the signal is -90 to -100 which is pretty good for LTE. As I'm flying along enjoying my 3 minutes of LTE spark, my phone just decides that LTE sucks and it should switch to the 3g signal which gives me 0.12 mbps (f***ing sprint). Then no matter what I do, how many times I do ##72786#, how many times I restart my phone, or turn mobile data on/off it still wont get LTE back..until randomly a couple hours later. Is my note 4 retarded?? The reason I don't think it's a signal issue is that I often get > 30mbps when I am connected. This has to be some software issue where the note 4 thinks that the 0.12mbps 3g signal is somehow "Stronger" than a 35mbps LTE signal.
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I agree, I'm in Chicago-land and when i get Spark I always get 1 bar and than it switches to 3g
DarkManX4lf said:
What I meant was why make the 2.5ghz band the higher priority? Why not make band 26 (800mhz)the higher priority?
Since my issue is indoors and 800mhz penetrates walls better than 2.5ghz, I figure the priority should be band 26, 25 and Last would be 41?
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By default the band priority is Band 25 - 1, Band 25 - 2, and Band 41 - 3. So the phone is already set up correctly as far as priority.
Also as has been stated LTE and Spark are not the same thing. They are two seperate bands. By default the phone tries to use Spark. If it can't it then switches to LTE and if it still has issues it switches to 3G..

Band 25/26/41

Is there a way to select the band and disable to bands you don't want on the Note 4? I am trying to see if I get better service on Band 25 as the data on Band 26 is sloooooooooooooooow . B41 is not deployed here yet. I swapped from my Nexus 6 to my Note 4 to see if it was the device or if it was Sprint and it's Sprint so I'm wondering if I try the other band if the congestion might not be as bad.
You can disable band 26 and 41. Go into the phone app and type ##data#, tap edit and enter your msl. Scroll down to lte and tap on it. In this menu you can see the options to turn off band 26 and 41.
Let us know how it turns out. Good luck.
Each band has its own strengths. Band 26 (800mhz) has much better building penetration and fills in the gaps that band 25 doesn't reach. Chances are if your phone is switching to B26 there is no B25 to connect to. B41 is super fast, I've hit speeds over 40mHz with it, but it doesn't carry very far and building penetration isn't very good.
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Band 41 on Sprint Spark

Sprint turned on Spark in my area in mid-February (Alexandria, VA outside of Washington, DC). I am on Band 41. However, I am getting only about 5 mbs download speed and a tenth of that upload. That seems to be the same speed as un-Sparked Band 25. Has anyone else noticed this on the G2? Is there a way to increase the speed on the phone? Or do I have to wait for a network upgrade. In that case, I thought the network upgrade was Spark. Apparently not.
Sounds like typical Sprint. Always upgrading, never delivering. Where I live, my G2 is on LTE nearly everywhere yet speeds are usually at a 3g level. It's annoying and unacceptable. I'm done with Sprint in November when my contract is up.
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Band 41 here where I live is definitely faster than 25 or 26. I can download on average around 4.0MB/s where as with the other bands I see around 2-2.5MB/s. But I'm sure that doesn't mean everywhere would be that way.
Band41 won't be available everywhere. Its 2.5ghz so by nature its range is more limited than 1900 or 800 and it has more interference in buildings. Its a good bet that you are not actually getting band 41 when running the speed test. You can use lte discovery to check although its not 100%.
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Of course I'm using band 41. I checked before I originally posted. My issue is that the G2 is not using all three bands together for much higher transfer rates. That's what spark is all about. Other people have reported download speeds as high as 68 meg. I'm getting only about 5.
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Of course I'm using band 41. I checked before I originally posted. My issue is that the G2 is not using all three bands together for much higher transfer rates. That's what spark is all about. Other people have reported download speeds as high as 68 meg. I'm getting only about 5.
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Spark is not about carrier aggregation, its about band41. Carrier aggregation is on the radar for being part of the "spark" network, widespread carrier aggregation is only just now being deployed. Its similar to Verizon and their branding of XLTE. All it really meant immediately was new spectrum but the brand will eventually cover LTE-Advanced things like carrier aggregation.
The g2 won't be doing carrier aggregation, unless a new modem is released for it. Hardware supports it but software does not on this device.
As for the slow download speeds, we can investigate that further if you want to send me a pm.
It's just your area. My nieces G2 does 30+mb download and 10mb which is what I get on my Note Edge on band 41. Unfortunately CA is not yet live here in northern ct although my phone did get updated to enable it. Carrier Aggregation is part of Spark but not Spark itself as stated above. Spark is just all three bands working independently. So far only a few select devices have CA which are the G4, Note Edge and I think M9.
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That's the problem. I thought when Sprint turned on Spark in my area my download speed would increase. Sprint announced it was on in February 2015. I've checked, and I am on Band 41 and receiving both bands 25 and 26 in addition to band 41. The G2 was the first tri-band phone on the Sprint network. Sprint released two software updates in 2014 to enable spark on the G2. Apparently none of that matters.

[GUIDE][HOW TO] Access Verizon LTE Band Selection Menu (ROOT required)

I finally figured out how to selectively enable/disable LTE bands on the Verizon LG G4. Seeing as I couldn't find this information anywhere else, I figured I'd write up a quick post so others could do the same.
My reason for wanting to do this was to disable Band 13 occasionally in areas where I had a weaker (but still usable) Band 4 signal to take advantage of the faster speeds.
Usual disclaimers apply, I take no responsibility for you screwing up your phone. That being said, I have had no issues enabling/disabling bands using this method and would consider this to be pretty safe (as long as you don't go off into the weeds and start changing other settings on the hidden menu). You MUST be rooted in order for this to work.
1. From a terminal emulator app that has been granted root permissions, type the following (pay attention to capitalization):
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su -c "am start -a com.android.intent.MAIN -n com.lge.VerizonHiddenMenu/.VzwLTETest.LTETestMain"
2. A page should open that says "Verizon Hidden Menu" at the top. There are four options: CDMA Preference, GCF Test Mode, LTE Connect w/o IMS PDN, and finally, the one we're concerned about, LTE Band Selection.
3. Once you tap LTE Band Selection, it should take you to the screen shown below. By default, Band2, Band4, and Band13 were checked for me, with Band5 being unchecked.
4. Change whichever band selections you want and tap "Save and Reboot" (yeah, I know, it sucks you have to reboot and can't just change them on the fly).
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
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Changing which bands are enabled/disabled does not seem to affect voice calling or the ability to send/receive SMS/MMS (on my Galaxy S4, the method of forcing a certain band DID affect these things if I remember correctly). If there isn't 4G operating in your area on the bands you have selected, it seems the phone just falls back to using 3G.
Hopefully this helps someone out there. Post your successes or failures. Thanks!
Thanks for this! I haven't tested it yet as I'm at work, but I've been trying for hours to get this to come up. None of the shortcut apps that worked on the G3 worked, so I'm glad this seems to work.
What bands were checked by default? I'm curious about band 2 as I can't pickup T-Mobile LTE on band 2 with my VS986, yet it worked on my Moto X.
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What bands were checked by default? I'm curious about band 2 as I can't pickup T-Mobile LTE on band 2 with my VS986, yet it worked on my Moto X.
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The screenshot I posted shows the bands that were on by default (2, 4, and 13 ... but not 5). I'm just speculating, but it's possible that your phone will never connect to band 2 as long as the other ones are enabled, either because the other bands are always a stronger signal in your area, or maybe Verizon is prioritizing their LTE bands 13 and 4 over T-Mobile LTE on band 2. I'd try disabling everything but band 2 and see what happens after you save and reboot.
thanks for this, i get battery drain only at my house because of 1x,4g, 3g signals...this should help!!!
How do you tell the band strength?
Doug B.
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The screenshot I posted shows the bands that were on by default (2, 4, and 13 ... but not 5). I'm just speculating, but it's possible that your phone will never connect to band 2 as long as the other ones are enabled, either because the other bands are always a stronger signal in your area, or maybe Verizon is prioritizing their LTE bands 13 and 4 over T-Mobile LTE on band 2. I'd try disabling everything but band 2 and see what happens after you save and reboot.
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There is only band 2 LTE T-Mobile here :/
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dvgb173 said:
How do you tell the band strength?
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I have yet to find any app that will show you the strength of multiple LTE bands SIMULTANEOUSLY. Without being an expert on mobile communications, I'd venture a guess that anything running in the application layer can probably only read the signal strength of the band you are currently connected to. To see the signal strength of multiple bands, you would probably need to be down in the lower levels closer to the actual chip where the decisions are being made about which tower/band to connect to based on analyzing all the signals detected by the phone. That's all just speculation, and maybe someone else can correct me and provide additional technical details.
The way I've checked each band's signal strength in a given location is to one-by-one disable the bands and see if your phone connects to another band after reboot and look at the signal strength using one of the many signal strength apps out there.
thecheat519 said:
I have yet to find any app that will show you the strength of multiple LTE bands SIMULTANEOUSLY. Without being an expert on mobile communications, I'd venture a guess that anything running in the application layer can probably only read the signal strength of the band you are currently connected to. To see the signal strength of multiple bands, you would probably need to be down in the lower levels closer to the actual chip where the decisions are being made about which tower/band to connect to based on analyzing all the signals detected by the phone. That's all just speculation, and maybe someone else can correct me and provide additional technical details.
The way I've checked each band's signal strength in a given location is to one-by-one disable the bands and see if your phone connects to another band after reboot and look at the signal strength using one of the many signal strength apps out there.
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AFAIK you can only read the signal strength of the band you are connected to. On older phones you could see the 1x and LTE strength side by side.
geoff5093 said:
AFAIK you can only read the signal strength of the band you are connected to. On older phones you could see the 1x and LTE strength side by side.
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yes u can here is mine and im not rooted ....
bigfdaddy2 said:
yes u can here is mine and im not rooted ....
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I'm talking about seeing LTE bands 4, 13, etc side by side
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Thanks, tested in lower Manhattan (close to freedom tower),
Band, 3g/4g, dBM signal strength, speedtest ping, speedtest downstream, speedtest upstream:
Band 2 = 4g-108dBm , 43ms ping, 5.62 Mbps, 1.28 Mbps
Band 4 = 4g -79dBm , 30ms ping, 8.00 Mbps, 9.69 Mbps
Band 5 = 3g -72dBm , 47ms ping, 1.04 Mbps, .47 Mbps
Band 13 = 4g -69dBm , 39ms ping, 12.39 Mbps, 3.96 Mbps
Would it be best to select only 13, or 4 & 13, or all of the above and does the phone automatically switch based on notices from VZW on which band has greatest signal/capacity or do they adjust based on limited/unlimited users?
You could access LTE bands selection menu simply using shortcut master lite app from play store. Use search function and type LTE. You'd find what you're looking for.
arlindemini said:
Thanks, tested in lower Manhattan (close to freedom tower),
Band, 3g/4g, dBM signal strength, speedtest ping, speedtest downstream, speedtest upstream:
Band 2 = 4g-108dBm , 43ms ping, 5.62 Mbps, 1.28 Mbps
Band 4 = 4g -79dBm , 30ms ping, 8.00 Mbps, 9.69 Mbps
Band 5 = 3g -72dBm , 47ms ping, 1.04 Mbps, .47 Mbps
Band 13 = 4g -69dBm , 39ms ping, 12.39 Mbps, 3.96 Mbps
Would it be best to select only 13, or 4 & 13, or all of the above and does the phone automatically switch based on notices from VZW on which band has greatest signal/capacity or do they adjust based on limited/unlimited users?
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Band 5? I didn't think Verizon had LTE on anything but bands 2, 4, and 13.
geoff5093 said:
Band 5? I didn't think Verizon had LTE on anything but bands 2, 4, and 13.
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He says in his notes that band 5 is 3G
motumbo said:
You could access LTE bands selection menu simply using shortcut master lite app from play store. Use search function and type LTE. You'd find what you're looking for.
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would either method work on the ATT devices as well.?
Titanium backup
Accidentally converted hidden menu to a system app, then it disappeared as far as titanium backup. Any way to restore it other than a full rom flash?
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*Correction- Coverted to a user app*
arlindemini said:
Thanks, tested in lower Manhattan (close to freedom tower),
Band, 3g/4g, dBM signal strength, speedtest ping, speedtest downstream, speedtest upstream:
Band 2 = 4g-108dBm , 43ms ping, 5.62 Mbps, 1.28 Mbps
Band 4 = 4g -79dBm , 30ms ping, 8.00 Mbps, 9.69 Mbps
Band 5 = 3g -72dBm , 47ms ping, 1.04 Mbps, .47 Mbps
Band 13 = 4g -69dBm , 39ms ping, 12.39 Mbps, 3.96 Mbps
Would it be best to select only 13, or 4 & 13, or all of the above and does the phone automatically switch based on notices from VZW on which band has greatest signal/capacity or do they adjust based on limited/unlimited users?
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Wait, how do you know band 5 is 3G? I believe Verizon is refarming EVDO for Band 5 LTE. I think they are 2.5MHz spectrum slices, so that would explain the lower speeds.
xdadevnube said:
Wait, how do you know band 5 is 3G? I believe Verizon is refarming EVDO for Band 5 LTE. I think they are 2.5MHz spectrum slices, so that would explain the lower speeds.
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My guess is that his phone says 3G.
Easy way to reach the Hidden menu is to download Master lite, search for Hidden Menu and select LTEBandSelection.
diljosh said:
Easy way to reach the Hidden menu is to download Master lite, search for Hidden Menu and select LTEBandSelection.
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Works for me. Much easier than using a terminal emulator.

[Q] Disable Band 25 B25 or Force Band 41 B41 , possible ?

Greetings,
So, after 10 years with VZW I have switched back to Sprint. I got this really awsome Samsung Galaxy Note 4 which I thought I wouldn't like but actually ended up loving. HTC I still miss you.
What I would like to do is completely disable LTE Band 25. Or FORCE Band 41 connection. Possible? How?
I have found many a threads for other devices about disabling bands 26 and 41, successful. Also one about disabling Band 25, unsuccessful.
Then many threads for other devices about changing band priority. Which I have done. However some suggest that this band priority change only applies to the inital LTE scan at boot, true?
I get very poor band 25 speeds at my home. VERY POOR like 200kbps to 600kbps. Some rooms in my home I will switch to Band 41, with speeds 1Mbps to 14Mbps. If I goto another room, it will stay on B41 for a little while but eventually switch back to B25. But honestly, if I can't get band 41, I would rather be 3G than on B25.
Anyone know how I can disable band 25 ? Or force band 41 ? Or some dirty hack messing with band 25 table selection/connection criteria that would make it always fail to connect to that band?
Thank for any insight,
-TheHoovie
thehoovie said:
Greetings,
So, after 10 years with VZW I have switched back to Sprint. I got this really awsome Samsung Galaxy Note 4 which I thought I wouldn't like but actually ended up loving. HTC I still miss you.
What I would like to do is completely disable LTE Band 25. Or FORCE Band 41 connection. Possible? How?
I have found many a threads for other devices about disabling bands 26 and 41, successful. Also one about disabling Band 25, unsuccessful.
Then many threads for other devices about changing band priority. Which I have done. However some suggest that this band priority change only applies to the inital LTE scan at boot, true?
I get very poor band 25 speeds at my home. VERY POOR like 200kbps to 600kbps. Some rooms in my home I will switch to Band 41, with speeds 1Mbps to 14Mbps. If I goto another room, it will stay on B41 for a little while but eventually switch back to B25. But honestly, if I can't get band 41, I would rather be 3G than on B25.
Anyone know how I can disable band 25 ? Or force band 41 ? Or some dirty hack messing with band 25 table selection/connection criteria that would make it always fail to connect to that band?
Thank for any insight,
-TheHoovie
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I think this question was asked awhile back and I believe the answer was that it wasn't possible :crying: but maybe someone else can chime in if it is possible. But from my memory, I believe it wasn't possible

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