Sprint turned on Spark in my area in mid-February (Alexandria, VA outside of Washington, DC). I am on Band 41. However, I am getting only about 5 mbs download speed and a tenth of that upload. That seems to be the same speed as un-Sparked Band 25. Has anyone else noticed this on the G2? Is there a way to increase the speed on the phone? Or do I have to wait for a network upgrade. In that case, I thought the network upgrade was Spark. Apparently not.
Sounds like typical Sprint. Always upgrading, never delivering. Where I live, my G2 is on LTE nearly everywhere yet speeds are usually at a 3g level. It's annoying and unacceptable. I'm done with Sprint in November when my contract is up.
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Band 41 here where I live is definitely faster than 25 or 26. I can download on average around 4.0MB/s where as with the other bands I see around 2-2.5MB/s. But I'm sure that doesn't mean everywhere would be that way.
Band41 won't be available everywhere. Its 2.5ghz so by nature its range is more limited than 1900 or 800 and it has more interference in buildings. Its a good bet that you are not actually getting band 41 when running the speed test. You can use lte discovery to check although its not 100%.
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Of course I'm using band 41. I checked before I originally posted. My issue is that the G2 is not using all three bands together for much higher transfer rates. That's what spark is all about. Other people have reported download speeds as high as 68 meg. I'm getting only about 5.
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rklurfeld said:
Of course I'm using band 41. I checked before I originally posted. My issue is that the G2 is not using all three bands together for much higher transfer rates. That's what spark is all about. Other people have reported download speeds as high as 68 meg. I'm getting only about 5.
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Spark is not about carrier aggregation, its about band41. Carrier aggregation is on the radar for being part of the "spark" network, widespread carrier aggregation is only just now being deployed. Its similar to Verizon and their branding of XLTE. All it really meant immediately was new spectrum but the brand will eventually cover LTE-Advanced things like carrier aggregation.
The g2 won't be doing carrier aggregation, unless a new modem is released for it. Hardware supports it but software does not on this device.
As for the slow download speeds, we can investigate that further if you want to send me a pm.
It's just your area. My nieces G2 does 30+mb download and 10mb which is what I get on my Note Edge on band 41. Unfortunately CA is not yet live here in northern ct although my phone did get updated to enable it. Carrier Aggregation is part of Spark but not Spark itself as stated above. Spark is just all three bands working independently. So far only a few select devices have CA which are the G4, Note Edge and I think M9.
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That's the problem. I thought when Sprint turned on Spark in my area my download speed would increase. Sprint announced it was on in February 2015. I've checked, and I am on Band 41 and receiving both bands 25 and 26 in addition to band 41. The G2 was the first tri-band phone on the Sprint network. Sprint released two software updates in 2014 to enable spark on the G2. Apparently none of that matters.
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I'm sick of slow 3g speeds, my area got wimax so we are going to be last for lte (not that I got any wimax with my gs2) so I've been thinking of switching to Verizon... I'm still not decided but if I do decide can I take the phone with me or is it a waste of 800 dollars if I do it?
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I believe it's possible, but I'm not familiar with the process. And it definitely looks like it has some challenges from what I've read on some of the posts for going to TMobile, Boost, and so forth. I would definitely look at some of those threads to see what it involved.
If you did pay $800, you can probably sell it and get most of your money back.
As for LTE, I think if you got WiMax in your area, you'll probably get LTE sooner or later. Maybe you should ask Sprint when they plan to bring it to you market. I lieve in araa that didn't have WiMax, but I could drive fifteen minutes and get to areas that did. But we got LTE in the areas where I live and work. And most of the WiMax near me got LTE as well.
As for 3G with LTE, although the speeds are increased, in my area, it's not that big of a bump. It's only about .50Mbps, especially compared to the LTE speeds. I find I'm averaging around 1.2Mpbs on 3G, whereas before it was around .8Mbps.
Plus, you'll definitely want to see what the Verizon are getting, and maybe specifically on the GN2. Then you'll need to consider how, if any, change to how you'll use the GN2. Are you going to use more data, say more media streaming? I'm not that familiar with Verizon, but I'm not sure if they offer unlimited data. I know they use to. It's possible they may throttle as well. If there isn't a unlimited, then you'll need to know how much you use and how much that usage will cost on them.
I understand your frustration about the speeds. When I had the BlackBerry Curve for Sprint, which was on the iDEN network, the data speeds were so slow, I literally couldn't stream audio without a lot buffering; It was like being back on the 54.4k modem days on the PC. Going to the Evo 4G from that, even without the WiMax available, was like lightening fast. Sprint will bring LTE. It's just a question of when.
It depends on the frequency that the sprint note 2 supports. It has to have the 700 mhz frequency for verizon lte. I havent looked at sprints note 2 frequencys on this phone or not. Look into and see what all frequencies the sprint variant supports.
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It depends on the frequency that the sprint note 2 supports. It has to have the 700 mhz frequency for verizon lte. I havent looked at sprints note 2 frequencys on this phone or not. Look into and see what all frequencies the sprint variant supports.
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Lte will never work the sprint lte frequencies are 800, 1900 and 2500mhz and I'm not even certain current device's support 800 or 2500mhz yet as they won't be available until mid 2014 when iden is fully decommissioned for 800 and wimax is decommissioned for 2500
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The fact that your area got Wimax has no relation whatsoever to the order or timeframe that it will receive LTE.
For Sprint LTE info please refer to s4gru.com, specifically http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-network-visionlte-deployment-running-list/ in which they have basically ALL the LTE rollout information. Moreover, if you donate any amount (say $3) you become a sponsor and have access to maps with the towers that already have LTE etc.
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The fact that your area got Wimax has no relation whatsoever to the order or timeframe that it will receive LTE.
For Sprint LTE info please refer to s4gru.com, specifically http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-network-visionlte-deployment-running-list/ in which they have basically ALL the LTE rollout information. Moreover, if you donate any amount (say $3) you become a sponsor and have access to maps with the towers that already have LTE etc.
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My area isn't even mentioned on the site... I tried searching my state and the biggest city around and the wasn't any matches. I live in Utah, neither Utah nor salt Lake City are mentioned on any of the 4 rounds of rollouts... Yet I got Wimax
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Ok... I have gone round and round and round and round with AT&T on this issue. My data is nearly unusable while on a call. Most of the time it times out, and when it does work, it is ridiculously slow.
I have gone through the stores, technical support, wrote their corporate headquarters (which got no response whatsoever), Twitter, and finally I filed a complaint with the FCC.
The FCC complaint is where I am now, and they want to work with me on this issue. They keep focusing on the towers in my area (although it happens EVERYWHERE), and my phone (even though this is my second phone). Basically I am tired of wasting my time with this issue, and I want to point them to this thread to tell them this this is NOT just me. Maybe it is the Note 2, but I think it is their network. Hopefully this thread will tell me AND THEM.
So with that said, I would love for everyone to post their City/State, and 2 speed tests (one while on a call and one while not on a call). Not moving would be preferable.
I will post mine shortly.
Tampa Bay North
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Not sure why you so frustrated. But signal's are suppose to drop while on a call!! Your using data, and yes we can be on the web and be on a call at the same time. I've been doing it since I was first on AT&T. :thumbup:
But I'm thinking it's your area or the modem. Here's my results after reading your post. I decided to go out for breakfast and perform this test to see if it was that BAD! :what:
Here's my results:
NO CALL HERE
ON CALL NOW
Still above 10 mb down. BUT IT DID DROP DRASTICALLY BECAUSE I'M NO LONGER ON LTE CONNECTION.
Just my 2¢®
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To answer your question, I am upset because they advertise themselves as being able to use voice and data simultaneously and I can barely use my data while on a call. Most of the time it times out and I constantly have to redo my request. I think my problem is the ability to send data (which include acknowledgements and the request). I don't so much mind that it slows down, but being nearly unusable is a whole other story.
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To answer your question, I am upset because they advertise themselves as being able to use voice and data simultaneously and I can barely use my data while on a call. Most of the time it times out and I constantly have to redo my request. I think my problem is the ability to send data (which include acknowledgements and the request). I don't so much mind that it slows down, but being nearly unusable is a whole other story.
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And that I have been able to do always. Be on a call and the web. But I understand your frustration on it not writing when you want. And it being so slow.
Not sure what Rom, modem your using? But I don't really see that much of a problem. Unless I'm inside of a metal building!!
Lol
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Yeah look at my on call upload speed compared to you. Definitely a problem.
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Yeah look at my on call upload speed compared to you. Definitely a problem.
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I agree with you completely. On that note! What modem are you using. Take a screen shot of your about phone. Just curious if that is what is causing your problem. Wondering if your on the latest modem release..
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As an RBS Engineer I can explain why this happens to you.
Its due to a few reasons
1. What frequency is 1st carrier in your market 1900mhz or 850mhz
2. How many carriers are in your particular area (the most i have seen is 5 in the major metro areas)
3. How far away the next tower is to you
4. How saturated each carrier is
Whwn testing a new LTE site i will get 30-50mbps download and 20mbps up
Thats cuz im the ONLY one on the carrier at the time.
So a tower is made up of carriers, each carrier has sectors with a corresponding antenna that face a different direction (Alpha Beta Gamma)
You have multiple carriers in areas where theres heavy traffic.
now back to your phone its multi banded 1900, 850, 700/2100(lte)
If your market is 850 first carrier and 850 second carrier your data while on the phone will be almost non existent becuase that band on your phone is in use with your call. But if you have 850 1st carrier then 1900 second carrier or vice versa then your speeds will be decent. For whatever reason when you place a call your data automatically switches to HSPA most likely due to the VOIP on the LTE band leaving only the 3g band for data. Now I dont engineer the network itself becuase I dont understand why LTE isnt left open for data while were on calls.
I dont know if i confused you more or if that helped.
Hope it helped though
Its like a highway
A carrier is a single highway with multiple lanes 850mhz 1900mhz 700mhz(for lte 1st carrier) and 2100 (for lte 2nd)
If your area has only 2 carriers 850mhz and 850mhz its like 2 lanes on a highway going in the same direction and the other side of the highway is blocked
If its 850mhz and 1900mhz but there is heavy traffic and not enough carriers its like bieng stuck in 5 o clock traffic and trying to turn around. Its busy on both lanes so everything is slow
Each carrier adds lanes for traffic in a typical metro area you will see someting like
1st carrier 850mhz
2nd 850mhz
3rd 1900mhz
4th 850 mhz
5th 1900 mhz
LTE 1st carrier 700mhz
LTE 2nd Carrier 2100mhz
Thats a lot of lanes for traffic
tramane said:
As an RBS Engineer I can explain why this happens to you.
Its due to a few reasons
1. What frequency is 1st carrier in your market 1900mhz or 850mhz
2. How many carriers are in your particular area (the most i have seen is 5 in the major metro areas)
3. How far away the next tower is to you
4. How saturated each carrier is
Whwn testing a new LTE site i will get 30-50mbps download and 20mbps up
Thats cuz im the ONLY one on the carrier at the time.
So a tower is made up of carriers, each carrier has sectors with a corresponding antenna that face a different direction (Alpha Beta Gamma)
You have multiple carriers in areas where theres heavy traffic.
now back to your phone its multi banded 1900, 850, 700/2100(lte)
If your market is 850 first carrier and 850 second carrier your data while on the phone will be almost non existent becuase that band on your phone is in use with your call. But if you have 850 1st carrier then 1900 second carrier or vice versa then your speeds will be decent. For whatever reason when you place a call your data automatically switches to HSPA most likely due to the VOIP on the LTE band leaving only the 3g band for data. Now I dont engineer the network itself becuase I dont understand why LTE isnt left open for data while were on calls.
I dont know if i confused you more or if that helped.
Hope it helped though
Its like a highway
A carrier is a single highway with multiple lanes 850mhz 1900mhz 700mhz(for lte 1st carrier) and 2100 (for lte 2nd)
If your area has only 2 carriers 850mhz and 850mhz its like 2 lanes on a highway going in the same direction and the other side of the highway is blocked
If its 850mhz and 1900mhz but there is heavy traffic and not enough carriers its like bieng stuck in 5 o clock traffic and trying to turn around. Its busy on both lanes so everything is slow
Each carrier adds lanes for traffic in a typical metro area you will see someting like
1st carrier 850mhz
2nd 850mhz
3rd 1900mhz
4th 850 mhz
5th 1900 mhz
LTE 1st carrier 700mhz
LTE 2nd Carrier 2100mhz
Thats a lot of lanes for traffic
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Well it seems to happen everywhere that I go which is as far as 70 miles in any direction. The big 3 are in my area (Sprint, AT&T, and Verizon) as well as T-Mobile and Metro (but I am not sure if Metro is their own or they use other carriers).
The major metro areas that I visit are Tampa and Orlando and they do the same thing. I live in a rural area (so the towers are not very saturated), and there is a tower about 1.5 miles (tops) in either direction of me.
I am not sure what frequency my area is. How can I tell?
This is expected. AT&T doesn't support voice over LTE yet, so when you place a phone call the modem needs to switch back to the 3G/Fake 4G HSPA+ network. I'm guessing you just have poor 4G reception. Can you disable LTE and then do a speedtest on the regular 4G network?
Prior to the LTE implementation I was getting far better speeds on the HSPA+ network..
How do I disable LTE to get a current HSPA+ test?
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Looks like this might be the easiest way: http://forums.androidcentral.com/t-...3-you-can-disable-hspa-too-2.html#post2551614
Edit: while on a call I get 1663Kbps down and just 93Kbps up, so this might not be unique to you.
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This is expected. AT&T doesn't support voice over LTE yet, so when you place a phone call the modem needs to switch back to the 3G/Fake 4G HSPA+ network. I'm guessing you just have poor 4G reception. Can you disable LTE and then do a speedtest on the regular 4G network?
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On HSPA+ I get 2.2 meg down and almost 1 meg up (910k).
FAR better than what I get while on a call in an LTE area.
OK after reading this thread. Do y'all think this problem will be fixed for the Note 3 because I read the note 3 will have the strongest LTE chip available? Or will it be determined on how heavy data traffic is on your frequency?
At&t hasn't supported voice+LTE data. Its the original voice+3G data. Its not the phone.
A given market can be very large it can encompass a whole state. I work in the south texas market which is basically EVERYTHING south of killeen texas. I have driven as far as 6hrs to south padre from austin and I remain in the same market. That was almost 400 miles south. Houston is part of the same market as well as all the way to east to the border of lousiana.
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At&t hasn't supported voice+LTE data. Its the original voice+3G data. Its not the phone.
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ranger - thanks but that doesn't explain the problems I experienced.
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A given market can be very large it can encompass a whole state. I work in the south texas market which is basically EVERYTHING south of killeen texas. I have driven as far as 6hrs to south padre from austin and I remain in the same market. That was almost 400 miles south. Houston is part of the same market as well as all the way to east to the border of lousiana.
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So how can I determine the frequency of my market to answer your original inquiry??
So i just got the z1c on ATT yesterday, and i didn't realize it doesn't cover band 17 of ATT's LTE. Is there a map that specifies which bands are available in which location? I love this phone so far but if i'm not going to get LTE coverage i'll have to get something else, maybe that new zl2 will cover all the necessary bands?
Hey acme64,
Did you ever decide to keep the z1c?
I got mine and I live in Louisiana, luckily I can pick up Bands 2 and 4 in most places. Some places are only band 17 but very few.
I am loving this.
Now, I did come across a post that showed a list of cities where AT&T has Band 2 and 4 along with 17...soon as I can find it I will post.
Looks like most major cities have a combination,
For example; New Orleans has all 3 bands, 2,4 &17..but Baton Rouge only has 4 and 17...
Take Care ..
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how can i make spark faster on my sprint note 4? it says i am in a spark area and i am only getting 2mbps that is ridiculous
http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp?ECID=vanity:coverage#!/ it says my area has sprint spark and it is on the "best" coverage wise
Can't see your coverage without your zip code.
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Can't see your coverage without your zip code.
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It says best and its still slow keeps saying i am on band 26 how do i switch to band 41
Is that exactly where you're at? Input an intersection closest to your home and see what it says. Does going outside make a difference? Update your profile lately followed by a long battery pull? If none of that helps then see what sprint says. I don't have spark where I'm at, just regular lte.
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Is that exactly where you're at? Input an intersection closest to your home and see what it says. Does going outside make a difference? Update your profile lately followed by a long battery pull? If none of that helps then see what sprint says. I don't have spark where I'm at, just regular lte.
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yea i put an intersection and it is a spark area. the rest surrounding it is lte. i used signalcheck pro and it says i am on band 26. isnt 41 spark?
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yea i put an intersection and it is a spark area. the rest surrounding it is lte. i used signalcheck pro and it says i am on band 26. isnt 41 spark?
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and i chatted with sprint and they told me this area has spark now. i think they are lying to me lol
Can't think of much except trying ##72786# and if that doesn't work call tech support and see if your SIM card was setup correctly in the system. Are you on the stock Rom? Factory reset?
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yea i put an intersection and it is a spark area. the rest surrounding it is lte. i used signalcheck pro and it says i am on band 26. isnt 41 spark?
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If I'm not mistaken, Spark adds bands 26 and 41 to the standard LTE band 25.
On a recent trip to Orlando/Disney World, I did some prioritizing on the bands and had success on first try. I was streaming Netflix via LTE to hotspot to roku 3 to TV- indoors. And had good coverage most of the trip. Plus downloading gigs of data.
Band 41- fast outdoors but not so penetrating for business structures
Band 26- lower frequency penetrating LTE
Band 25- not as penetrating as band 26 and also the common LTE band used by non-Spark LTE phones and towers. Potentially overcrowded.
I don't know why but Spark phones priority should be prioritized away from band 25 but currently default them as highest priority band. In theory, band 41 should be highest for outdoors, band 26 would be priority for indoors, if available and penetration hinders band 41. When higher priority bands unavailable reverting to band 25. By then you may prefer Wi-Fi to band 25. Apparently the same applies to band 26 in some locations. It's all about location and availability; home Wi-Fi would most likely be preferred over Spark but motel/resort low-valued-complimentary Wi-Fi with browser authorization/TOS may not.
Got your MSL code? Try this prioritizing below using ##3282# LTE/LTE priority. I did this rather blindly, not looking at connection speed or band utilized. I get LTE at home too. I don't think it's Spark but the settings are not interfering with LTE bands as far as I can tell.
You should at least see band 41 outside, if within range. Indoors, it may revert to band 26, if available.
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If I'm not mistaken, Spark adds bands 26 and 41 to the standard LTE band 25.
On a recent trip to Orlando/Disney World, I did some prioritizing on the bands and had success on first try. I was streaming Netflix via LTE to hotspot to roku 3 to TV- indoors. And had good coverage most of the trip. Plus downloading gigs of data.
Band 41- fast outdoors but not so penetrating for business structures
Band 26- lower frequency penetrating LTE
Band 25- not as penetrating as band 26 and also the common LTE band used by non-Spark phones and towers. overcrowded.
I don't know but Spark phones priority should be prioritized away from band 25 but use them as highest band by default. In theory, band 41 should be highest for outdoors, band 26 would be priority for indoors, as available. By then you may prefer Wi-Fi to band 25.
Got your MSL code? Try this prioritizing below using ##3282# LTE/LTE priority. I did this rather blindly, not looking at connection speed or band utilized. I get LTE at home too. I don't think it's Spark but the settings are not interfering with LTE bands as far as I can tell.
You should at least see band 41 outside, if within range. Indoors, it may revert to band 26, if available.
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Thanks for replying. This is how I have it set up. I'm guessing its just the area is super slow or something.
samep said:
If I'm not mistaken, Spark adds bands 26 and 41 to the standard LTE band 25.
On a recent trip to Orlando/Disney World, I did some prioritizing on the bands and had success on first try. I was streaming Netflix via LTE to hotspot to roku 3 to TV- indoors. And had good coverage most of the trip. Plus downloading gigs of data.
Band 41- fast outdoors but not so penetrating for business structures
Band 26- lower frequency penetrating LTE
Band 25- not as penetrating as band 26 and also the common LTE band used by non-Spark LTE phones and towers. Potentially overcrowded.
I don't know why but Spark phones priority should be prioritized away from band 25 but currently default them as highest priority band. In theory, band 41 should be highest for outdoors, band 26 would be priority for indoors, if available and penetration hinders band 41. When higher priority bands unavailable reverting to band 25. By then you may prefer Wi-Fi to band 25. Apparently the same applies to band 26 in some locations. It's all about location and availability; home Wi-Fi would most likely be preferred over Spark but motel/resort low-valued-complimentary Wi-Fi with browser authorization/TOS may not.
Got your MSL code? Try this prioritizing below using ##3282# LTE/LTE priority. I did this rather blindly, not looking at connection speed or band utilized. I get LTE at home too. I don't think it's Spark but the settings are not interfering with LTE bands as far as I can tell.
You should at least see band 41 outside, if within range. Indoors, it may revert to band 26, if available.
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Does anyone have proof changing these helps? I changed mine and forgot the screenshot how the default was setup does anyone know the default arrangement?
infamouzwt said:
yea i put an intersection and it is a spark area. the rest surrounding it is lte. i used signalcheck pro and it says i am on band 26. isnt 41 spark?
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Where do you see the band number?
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Does anyone have proof changing these helps? I changed mine and forgot the screenshot how the default was setup does anyone know the default arrangement?
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When I was vacation, my indoor 4G data was sporadic. I was getting a lot reverting to 3G or a spinning effect like a loss of sync.
There was a persistent mod I tried in KitKat that didn't seem to work; a lot of waiting to sync. The settings I posted were very stable and quickly synced in the Orlando area. Very few dead data spots and most of those were underground attractions.
I do believe band 25 was highest by default. I think I switched bands 25 and 41 but not positive. I recall looking this up because that seems to be a non spark area setting. Ideally, refreshing the PRL/Profile would set the priority bands based on location/coverage but I don't think it does. Non spark as default on a spark enabled phone isn't ideal if the spark settings have no impact on non spark areas' reception. IMO, there is no impact so the default settings are incorrect; these are ideal. But slow data is slow data. I was able to hold a steady HD stream for my Roku, indoors with it.
Issue:
Phone will not stay locked on LTE in Global or LTE/UMTS/GSM mode. When in Global or LTE/UMTS/GSM mode and LTE does connect, it's momentarily and when trying to run a speed test or open a webpage, it quickly disconnects and connects to HSDPA. If switched to LTE/CDMA signal locks in great and data speeds are great however voice services are not available. Any thoughts or advice is welcomed. Thanks ahead of time!
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Phone: VS986
Android Version: 5.1
Build: LMY47D
Soft Version: VS98611A
APN: T-Mobile Fast apn (fast.t-mobile.com)
Strong LTE area
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Radio Swither Not available on LG G4
Rooted
Xposed installed
Gravity Box installed (no change when using smart radio features)
G3 Tweakbox installed but module will not register with Xposed Framework (I know it was along shot)
What band LTE are you connecting to? I found that here on band 2, I will connect at first, but then it switches back to edge. Seems fine in a band 4 LTE area though.
geoff5093 said:
What band LTE are you connecting to? I found that here on band 2, I will connect at first, but then it switches back to edge. Seems fine in a band 4 LTE area though.
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I'm in the Raleigh NC area. According to LTE Discovery i'm using Band 4. and I also experience the same. A brief connection while in global or LTE/UMTS/GSM mode then it falls back to HSPA.
taifuller said:
I'm in the Raleigh NC area. According to LTE Discovery i'm using Band 4. and I also experience the same. A brief connection while in global or LTE/UMTS/GSM mode then it falls back to HSPA.
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I haven't found LTE Discovery to report the band correctly, at least in my case. It would say I'm on band 4 on my Moto X, but when using a band 4 only device I would only get Edge, but when I go in a confirmed band 4 area it works fine. From what I've found, most 2G > LTE sites were converted to band 2 LTE. Although since you get HSPA the chances of it actually being on band 4 are higher.
I'm fairly certain this is a Band 4 area. The latest T-Mobile maps are pretty good about pointing out Band 2 areas. I've since sold the phone and acquired a iPhone 6 Plus which I'm looking to sell to replace it with an international G4 or T-Mobile G4. I was pretty impressed with that phone. If I had to rank my favorites, it's number 2. Nexus 5 is still king of the hill for me. There wasn't a better phone out when it was release for a better price.
did you ever figure this out? samething is happening to me
Unfortunately I didn't. I sold it and bought one for T-Mobile...... Which I just sold about 3 hours ago.
So I tested it out again, and in a band 2 area when I boot up my phone with a T-Mobile SIM, I get LTE for several seconds then it cuts back over to 2G.
Now that there is a new software update for the G4, I wonder if this is anymore reliable. Anyone who took the OTA update in the past few days, can you let us know if it's any better?
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Been there, done that...wanted to switch over to T-Mobile, but unfortunately, the VS986 only works with two of their three LTE bands, as you know, and it seems everywhere I went, they were using the one the phone doesn't receive (I'm in southern California, for what it's worth, but tested it on a freeway run up the I-5 to the central part of the state - only got 4G-LTE in a few places). Wound up going back to Verizon
I'm getting the exact same results in Burlington, VT (T-Mobile band 2 market). I first have to manually select T-Mobile (defaults to roaming on AT&T HSPA+) then LTE works for less than a minute (LTE Discovery says band 4) and then I lose signal when I get signal again, I only have edge. It does this constantly and is really annoying.
Aww, bummer. I was thinking about switching to T-Mobile, but looks like that is not a viable option? So no one has been able to successfully use the phone on T-Mobile, even after enabling bands 2 and 4 only?
This whole plethora of LTE bands, where each provider does its own crap is such a mess, is just serves to lock in customers, since switching phones is expensive. Government should mandate that all phones can work on all US LTE bands, the technology exists.
I am on the same boat. Everything works on my VS986 on t-mobile network. but I cannot get the LTE to work properly. LTE discovery shows band 4 (not sure if correct though)
konradsa said:
Aww, bummer. I was thinking about switching to T-Mobile, but looks like that is not a viable option? So no one has been able to successfully use the phone on T-Mobile, even after enabling bands 2 and 4 only?
This whole plethora of LTE bands, where each provider does its own crap is such a mess, is just serves to lock in customers, since switching phones is expensive. Government should mandate that all phones can work on all US LTE bands, the technology exists.
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My VRZ LG G4 shows that it has Band 2, 4, 5, and 13. I tried enabling 2 & 4 only, 4 only, 2 only, 2&4&13 only but with no success.
What is interesting is I am coming from VRZ LG G3 and LTE was just fine and never had an issue.
I looked at the VRZ LG G3 LTE bands and I see Band 3,4, and 13 enabled. It did not even have band 2.
More testing:
When I switched the Network Mode to LTE/CDMA I get constant 4G-LTE & internet is working but my phone cannot place and receive phone calls.
with LTE/CDMA I see 4G at 100dBm and 1X at 120dBm
ruijay said:
More testing:
When I switched the Network Mode to LTE/CDMA I get constant 4G-LTE & internet is working but my phone cannot place and receive phone calls.
with LTE/CDMA I see 4G at 100dBm and 1X at 120dBm
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Interesting, almost sounds like a bug in the LTE/GSM mode.
I assume when you switch to global mode, voice works but only HSPA, right?
konradsa said:
Interesting, almost sounds like a bug in the LTE/GSM mode.
I assume when you switch to global mode, voice works but only HSPA, right?
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That is right.
The best internet speed was with LTE/CDMA but no voice or text
ruijay said:
That is right.
The best internet speed was with LTE/CDMA but no voice or text
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Out of curiosity, what speeds do you get on HSPA in global mode?
konradsa said:
Out of curiosity, what speeds do you get on HSPA in global mode?
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With HSPA/3G I get around 7 mbps download and 1.88 mbps upload
ruijay said:
More testing:
When I switched the Network Mode to LTE/CDMA I get constant 4G-LTE & internet is working but my phone cannot place and receive phone calls.
with LTE/CDMA I see 4G at 100dBm and 1X at 120dBm
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ruijay said:
That is right.
The best internet speed was with LTE/CDMA but no voice or text
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I think since someone reported before that this used to work the G3, it sounds like a bug to me. I guess we can hope and pray that this will work in future releases, but there is no guarantee of course. Not sure what complaining to Verizon will do, since they are probably not very interested in you using T-Mobile. Of course, you can always wrap the complaint into something like you are using the phone in a different country on vacation and it doesn't work. Maybe a complaint to the FTC could work too, since it sounds like Verizon is required to have their phones unlocked for use on other networks based on some settlement.
konradsa said:
I think since someone reported before that this used to work the G3, it sounds like a bug to me. I guess we can hope and pray that this will work in future releases, but there is no guarantee of course. Not sure what complaining to Verizon will do, since they are probably not very interested in you using T-Mobile. Of course, you can always wrap the complaint into something like you are using the phone in a different country on vacation and it doesn't work. Maybe a complaint to the FTC could work too, since it sounds like Verizon is required to have their phones unlocked for use on other networks based on some settlement.
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I am tempted to try the guide in here to add more LTE bands:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/guide-enabling-lte-bands-t3137818
While some testers said the LTE bands are limited by hardware others reported some success modifying the software. Any thoughts?