So I really like lg's stock ui and its functionality and I want to see how I like using CloudyG3 but I really don't want to go through the process of losing my data and all of my games and stuff and having to re-download them or restore them again. My question is, can I just backup my data partition via twrp and restore it again upon switching roms? I feel like that would mess up something (given I do have qremote for aosp and I did flash the htc camera port but it keeps disappearing for some reason whenever I reboot) and end up bricking my precious phone. (Thanks)
You can, but problems can sometimes appear (force closes, etc). Best bet: backup everything (apps+data) with something like Titanium Backup and restore when needed.
Yeah I usually use titanium but sometimes it doesn't like to restore everything correctly and I end up with some of my apps there and some of them with their data missing. Thanks for answering also is there a way to modify which apps twrp backs up when backing up data?
I don't believe so. It backs up the whole partition as a single image.
Ah oh well thanks
Nope nevermind domt ever do that it ****ed up my phone haha. I had a backup though so it's all good
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Does TB back settings up so extensively that a clean wipe + TB restore will restore the previous problems? (I'm having issues with the Android Wifi Tether 3rd party app)
What is the advantage of doing a clean wipe + TB restore versus just installing a rom upgrade over the present data, without a wipe?
Just got the Donate version of Titanium and trying to understand how it works in the circumstance of a clean wipe.
Basically does it backup all the good stuff (settings) without backing up anything corrupted that might cause problems? (Assuming a stupid setting isn't the problem since that would be backed up)
Thanks!
Titanium just backs up the apk's unless you also back up app settings, user settings, etc. If there is a problem with corruption, it will probably stay with the backup. You could reinstall the apps you suspect. I would think your problem is corruption in the system itself, so maybe a reflash would help.
But don't flash without wiping, that's just a bad idea anyway. It's not like you're just saving personal settings, you're just painting over the old data. Do a full backup of all apps, data, and user settings, then wipe everything, reflash, and restore things bit by but until you either have the same problems or have everything back.
Just my conservative opinion. Bottom line, I've never seen anybody recommend flashing without wiping.
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Titanium just backs up the apk's unless you also back up app settings, user settings, etc. If there is a problem with corruption, it will probably stay with the backup. You could reinstall the apps you suspect. I would think your problem is corruption in the system itself, so maybe a reflash would help.
But don't flash without wiping, that's just a bad idea anyway. It's not like you're just saving personal settings, you're just painting over the old data. Do a full backup of all apps, data, and user settings, then wipe everything, reflash, and restore things bit by but until you either have the same problems or have everything back.
Just my conservative opinion. Bottom line, I've never seen anybody recommend flashing without wiping.
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Well I'm not talking about flashing new roms, just nightly updates of the Cyanogenmod 6 nightlies... I've been flashing them without a problem. I just have this one strange problem.
So basically you're saying that yes, the backup will likely backup the bad corrupted file? Excuse me for sounding ignorant, but if bad files are backed up, then why do people backup their system files at all? Furthermore if Froyo includes application backup/restore why does anyone back anything up at all? Besides for bandwidth consumption.
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Well I'm not talking about flashing new roms, just nightly updates of the Cyanogenmod 6 nightlies... I've been flashing them without a problem. I just have this one strange problem.
So basically you're saying that yes, the backup will likely backup the bad corrupted file? Excuse me for sounding ignorant, but if bad files are backed up, then why do people backup their system files at all? Furthermore if Froyo includes application backup/restore why does anyone back anything up at all? Besides for bandwidth consumption.
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Ah, yes, sorry, you can flash nightlies without wiping. Backing up is either a restore point before flashing a new ROM (so you can go back if you don't like the new ROM) or as a preventive measure against problems in the future. And not all of us are using Froyo.
Ok, so to me this program seems great - backs up pretty much EVERYTHING for me, so that if I flash and wipe a new rom, it restores everything to a usable level. Now my issue is I can't understand what people mean when they say you might as well not wipe at all. If you can't use TB to restore after a wipe, what is the point of using TB at all???
Is there a way to select parts that are "ok" to restore after a wipe? or is TB pretty much pointless?
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Read this it will help explain how TB can mess with your ROM.
http://geekfor.me/faq/why-you-shouldnt-be-using/
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Read this it will help explain how TB can mess with your ROM.
http://geekfor.me/faq/why-you-shouldnt-be-using/
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Thanks I read that but his post didn't really make it clear for me:
problem is that when a user makes the backup on one rom/build/version and imports it on another
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What exactly does this mean? I am running CM6 nightlies. Should it be wiped and not restored via TB each time? What about going from RC1 to RC2?
If the situation is such that you can restore via TB, then why not just flash the new one and skip wiping altogether?
Well one nice thing about Cm rom's is you can have google backup all the programs you download from the Market so no need for TB there. Where the problems can lie with TB is the SQLlite database files when restoring your user settings. If something has changed from rom versions and you restore your old sqllite settings and now its missing some information thats needed for the newer version rom it can cause problems like force closes or reboots.
For nightly's I just upgrade without a wipe. If I do have any quirks then I try a wipe which usually fixes whatever quirk I'm having.
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Well one nice thing about Cm rom's is you can have google backup all the programs you download from the Market so no need for TB there. Where the problems can lie with TB is the SQLlite database files when restoring your user settings. If something has changed from rom versions and you restore your old sqllite settings and now its missing some information thats needed for the newer version rom it can cause problems like force closes or reboots.
For nightly's I just upgrade without a wipe. If I do have any quirks then I try a wipe which usually fixes whatever quirk I'm having.
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yeah, I've been skipping the wipe unless there is a quirk.
So basically it sounds like TB is a total waste of time if you are running CM6? Sorry... just hard for me to understand why people love the program so much if there is no real application for it? Or is it just outdated by the backing up with Google?
it's like this - TB allows you to backup apps and settings. You may want to use this in addition to the backup that google provides - what if you find a great app, but its removed from the market? I don't think that the google backup will help you then - it will only restore what's currently in the market (disclaimer - I don't use CM6, so I'm not 100% on that).
The waste of time thing comes into play with people who have issues with a rom, so they re-flash the rom and restore apps and settings with TB. It might have been some of the settings (that were just restored with TB) that were causing the issues in the first place.
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it's like this - TB allows you to backup apps and settings. You may want to use this in addition to the backup that google provides - what if you find a great app, but its removed from the market? I don't think that the google backup will help you then - it will only restore what's currently in the market (disclaimer - I don't use CM6, so I'm not 100% on that).
The waste of time thing comes into play with people who have issues with a rom, so they re-flash the rom and restore apps and settings with TB. It might have been some of the settings (that were just restored with TB) that were causing the issues in the first place.
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^what he said
I LOVE TB but I use it to restore my apps and their data ONLY, I do not use it to restore system data.
I think with tb....when you restore your apps you have the choice to restore the apps with out the user data. Also you can choose to wipe them of data Before you restore.
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berardi said:
yeah, I've been skipping the wipe unless there is a quirk.
So basically it sounds like TB is a total waste of time if you are running CM6? Sorry... just hard for me to understand why people love the program so much if there is no real application for it? Or is it just outdated by the backing up with Google?
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Unlike Google's backup, TB backs up your /data/data folder, not just the APK's from your market-downloaded applications.
In other words, it backs up your application data, your apps you installed manually/downloaded, and all of your settings, such as Bluetooth name and pairings, WiFi networks (and security settings), etc.
My rule of thumb is, if going from one build to another (ie, Stock to CM6, etc.) then do NOT restore any system settings/apps. Just do a backup of YOUR apps, as-is, move over to the new ROM, restore apps and their settings, then go to the Market and update everything. Simple as that, and you shouldn't get any errors.
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it's like this - TB allows you to backup apps and settings. You may want to use this in addition to the backup that google provides - what if you find a great app, but its removed from the market? I don't think that the google backup will help you then - it will only restore what's currently in the market (disclaimer - I don't use CM6, so I'm not 100% on that).
The waste of time thing comes into play with people who have issues with a rom, so they re-flash the rom and restore apps and settings with TB. It might have been some of the settings (that were just restored with TB) that were causing the issues in the first place.
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Thanks that definitely helps. Market-removed apps seems like a good reason to have it. (I already bought it just trying to determine how to use it anyways)
Ok so is it fair enough to say it has a relatively "niche" market with the addition of market backups? I hate to be a bull in the ChinaShop but it seems like people really tip toe around the idea of TB being outdated by market backups. I get the general idea of what you guys are saying but I'm trying to decide what I want to do in personal practice.
I don't think I've experienced any issues but who knows if I've had less than optimal performance because of restoring previous settings. Are there any "safe" items that can be backed up and restored or is nothing really "safe" they all have entries in sqlite database that might be duplicated?
Thanks again guys for humoring me
when say going from stock 2.2 to cm 6.1.1? What id like is to say, take a list of my currently installed apps on the froyo, or from a backup, and make a list of them to be installed, with the accounts and what not set up. or, mount a backup so i can look at the apps i have installed and their passwords.
Titanium Backup
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Titanium Backup
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You can use titanium to install apps from other android versions? Because with the backup that comes with cwm, i tried restoring just the data after going to cm 6.1.1 and i got a weird little half brick device until i manually booted into recovery and reinstalled the rooted stock back up i made. now i wanna go back to cm 6.1.1 but i dont feel like writing a bunch of stuff down.
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You can use titanium to install apps from other android versions? Because with the backup that comes with cwm, i tried restoring just the data after going to cm 6.1.1 and i got a weird little half brick device until i manually booted into recovery and reinstalled the rooted stock back up i made. now i wanna go back to cm 6.1.1 but i dont feel like writing a bunch of stuff down.
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Works for me when I say restore back a 6.1.1 after running some 2.3. Usually I'm restoring (apps + data) stuff like setCPU_donate and other 3rd party apps and settings. Couldn't hurt but I'll tell you, messing with restoring anything other than a full rom backup in CWM makes me a bit nervous. Luckily there are alot of things to do what you're asking.
Yeah it made me nervous too after i did it. I didnt figure that user data itself would cause a perma brick though. But i was almost completely sure it wouldnt work at the time. And now i am completely sure. Yeah i downloaded titanium back up, and i backed up the apps i wanted to save the account info for, so we'll see what happens after cm gets done doin its thing.
Yes, Titanium Backup will backup not only the app, but also the user data as well - which is *way* handy.
It'll also backup system apps, so you do need to kinda watch what you're restoring (the free version of Titanium Backup makes you manually confirm every single app you restore, so it's a bit harder to screw up). It's a pretty sweet app, highly recommended.
Installing/restoring between versions is no problem.
yeah, it is pretty handy. Except when it came to swype.
Quick Q for Titanium. When I do a batch operation, it still asks me if I want to install the apk and then another if i want to open it or hit done. Is there a way to bypass those screens?
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Quick Q for Titanium. When I do a batch operation, it still asks me if I want to install the apk and then another if i want to open it or hit done. Is there a way to bypass those screens?
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Only if you buy the Pro version or whatever. It's not too expensive. I actually kinda like those screens, as it gives me a double-check so I don't install something I didn't want to.
Hey,
I have a question about Titanium Backup. If I understand it properly I have to lose all my apps and data to install or update a new ROM - full wipe - if necessary. Of course I may use Titanium backup but that is quite long process to restore all apps and data again, right? Do I need to tap on restoring every single app to install it etc.? AND may I restore system data as well or it makes no sense when the ROM needs a full wipe?
I really do not understand this properely. I am quite confused and I appreciate if anybody can explain me.
Thanks.
If you use the free version you will need to confirm every app restore. If you have the paid version it will restore them all. It's pretty quick too.
You can restore system data sometimes. Never if you're switching from one type of ROM to another though. Someone will have to give you more info on that part.
thanks! and one more thing. I tried some time ago restore my apps and data and There appeared a problem. I use Darktremor App2Sd and when I was restoring my apps via TB system told me I have not enough space. Probably TB haven't restored them to a correct place (internal/external). Any idea how to solve this? Thanks.
Question is in the thread title.
In the past, when I had a Samsung Infuse 4G, MyBackupPro worked wonderfully for backing up apps and data before flashing a new ROM, and painlessly restoring apps and data after flashing a new ROM (by painlessly I mean all at once, as opposed to having to go through and click "restore" for each app and data). However, for whatever reason, MyBackupPro is not playing nicely with my Note 2. I can backup and all that, but restoration never occurs. In fact, most times it won't find the backup to even restore!
So, what is everybody's favorite/easiest way to backup before flashing a new ROM, and restoring after flashing a new ROM? Preferably a free option.
When I was working with the Infuse, I seem to remember lots of developers saying to NEVER restore data after flashing a new ROM. I don't understand why that is. I know people aren't starting their games and stuff over from scratch when they flash a new ROM, especially since many people change ROMs every couple of days.
Thanks in advance! :highfive:
I use titanium backup. Works great with the note 2.
When they are saying don't restore data they are talking about system data. If you backup everything including system apps and data and restore from that it can wreck havoc.
Just backing up user apps and data is fine to restore, at least I've never had a problem. I would just be wary going between touch wiz and aosp ROMs that could get a little dicey, but between the same type of ROMs(ice cm10.1 to aokp or pacman or aospa) should be fine.
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i used Helium (used to be Carbon) by Koush, the creator of CWM and ROM Manager) recently when i switched ROMs. i have always used Titanium Backup, but thought i would try Helium. the process is super easy and went very smoothly.
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Question is in the thread title.
In the past, when I had a Samsung Infuse 4G, MyBackupPro worked wonderfully for backing up apps and data before flashing a new ROM, and painlessly restoring apps and data after flashing a new ROM (by painlessly I mean all at once, as opposed to having to go through and click "restore" for each app and data). However, for whatever reason, MyBackupPro is not playing nicely with my Note 2. I can backup and all that, but restoration never occurs. In fact, most times it won't find the backup to even restore!
So, what is everybody's favorite/easiest way to backup before flashing a new ROM, and restoring after flashing a new ROM? Preferably a free option.
When I was working with the Infuse, I seem to remember lots of developers saying to NEVER restore data after flashing a new ROM. I don't understand why that is. I know people aren't starting their games and stuff over from scratch when they flash a new ROM, especially since many people change ROMs every couple of days.
Thanks in advance! :highfive:
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I believe when it comes to backing up/moving apps + data, time, convenience or money saving should simply stay out of the decision making process. BUY the best there is, spend time to learn how to properly use the tool and that will give you the quickest, most convenient and money saving solution. In other words, this is where you shouldn't be cutting any corners. I would recommend either Titanium Backup Pro or ROM Toolbox Pro.
I bought Helium Premium and it worked beautifully. Now I have no reason not to try every ROM available for this phone. Thanks guys!
My backup pro + root will do the job nice. If you're not seeing your backups try going into settings and check that your backups are going to EXTENT sd.
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lukas_s said:
Question is in the thread title.
In the past, when I had a Samsung Infuse 4G, MyBackupPro worked wonderfully for backing up apps and data before flashing a new ROM, and painlessly restoring apps and data after flashing a new ROM (by painlessly I mean all at once, as opposed to having to go through and click "restore" for each app and data). However, for whatever reason, MyBackupPro is not playing nicely with my Note 2. I can backup and all that, but restoration never occurs. In fact, most times it won't find the backup to even restore!
So, what is everybody's favorite/easiest way to backup before flashing a new ROM, and restoring after flashing a new ROM? Preferably a free option.
When I was working with the Infuse, I seem to remember lots of developers saying to NEVER restore data after flashing a new ROM. I don't understand why that is. I know people aren't starting their games and stuff over from scratch when they flash a new ROM, especially since many people change ROMs every couple of days.
Thanks in advance! :highfive:
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Dude I want the premium version of this app...Can you please provide me
I've been using titanium backup pro. It works pretty well, and it's pretty fast. Sometimes there are problems accessing my backup folder after a new flash, but restarting and fixing permissions will usually fix it.
yhzh said:
I've been using titanium backup pro. It works pretty well, and it's pretty fast. Sometimes there are problems accessing my backup folder after a new flash, but restarting and fixing permissions will usually fix it.
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did you set the backup location under settings when you redownloaded the app to point to the location of your backup folder?
+1 titanium backup..when restoring after a rom install..make sure to restore only apps never restore apos wirh chemicals system data...you'll have conflicts then.
Titanium backup is the best in my opinion. .you can backup bookmarks, message sms, call logs and even send them to dropbox and restore them just as easy...
I agree that Ti Backup is a good option. I wont say its the best period, but it is the best that I have used.
Ishan16 said:
Dude I want the premium version of this app...Can you please provide me
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Enjoy
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rerware.android.MyBackupPro&hl=en