I'm curious which ROM for the Sprint Galaxy Note 4 is currently best for day to day use?
I would love to use a clean CM ROM, but the CM ROMs I've tried seem to have random little bugs, which after weeks of use become very annoying. I haven't tested many TouchWiz ROMs for the Note 4, which is why I'm making this post.
Question 1:Simply, which ROM(s) are most stable currently? I would just test them myself but the last few weeks I've become extremely busy and I just don't have the time to test many different ROMs.
Questions 2: Are you using a custom ROM? If so, which, and how long have you been using it?
Thanks! ((((((
You're not providing enough information to answer the question. Custom ROMs based on OB7 or lower are not compatible with OE1 and OF5 builds. Nor can those be downgraded without great consequence. For reference, OB7 is the initial Lollipop build.
What's your build number by last 3 digits? Be careful if on those or taking OTA to those if custom is your primary interest. Xposed it's another similar issue but limited to deodexed ROMs if you're talking about TW Lollipop.
Custom ROMs will come for OF5. Patience.
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You're not providing enough information to answer the question. Custom ROMs based on OB7 or lower are not compatible with OE1 and OF5 builds. Nor can those be downgraded without great consequence. For reference, OB7 is the initial Lollipop build.
What's your build number by last 3 digits? Be careful if on those or taking OTA to those if custom is your primary interest. Xposed it's another similar issue but limited to deodexed ROMs if you're talking about TW Lollipop.
Custom ROMs will come for OF5. Patience.
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I also have the same question but do not know what an OTA, OE1, OF5, OB7 are. I am rooted but never flashed a rom before I am on the galaxy note 4 910P 6.0.1 PD1 build. I want a stable rom for everyday use.
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I also have the same question but do not know what an OTA, OE1, OF5, OB7 are. I am rooted but never flashed a rom before I am on the galaxy note 4 910P 6.0.1 PD1 build. I want a stable rom for everyday use.
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OTA is short for Over The Air. It's typically referred to as an update build which is what the others are.
Builds or updates increase numerically. To shorten the update in full, the last three digits are typically accepted here as a quick reference to save time.
For example, so far, the Sprint Note 4 has had 3 official updates including the first which was PC1. Then there was PD1 and just this week, PE1 became available. Typically OTA update is available first, followed by a full tar at some point.
OTA updates, if taken, are taken incrementally one after the other without skipping because they patch the previous update. It's the system update method found in Settings menu that you're most likely familiar with.
The tar updates are full updates and can be flashed (Odin is the application for that) out of sequence, if bootloader allows the flash. The bootloader may block install if reactivation lock (aka factory reset protection) is set or tripped or if a lesser security bootloader of a lower build is attempted. For example, you cannot go back to Android 5.0 or 4.4 using Odin to flash the tar; the bootloader would prevent downgrade to lower security bootloader. Rooted users may flash full tars to update or revert to stock to take the next OTA update but modified partitions can and most often will prohibit OTA update. There's also a baseband and bootloader thread in development for those that know what to do with them to assist in compatibility of current build in TWRP backup.
As for custom stock ROMs, I can say they're in development but one mostly stock PD1 ROM exists. Developer tools have slowed the advance of touchwiz stock developed Marshmallow ROMs so it's hard to predict their availability.
Since we just got an update, it may be longer now than thought possible for a custom ROM on PE1 update. CM ROMs are available but they may lack S-Pen and touchwiz features found in stock. You can find released ROMs in the development forum. If interested, follow the OP (original post or post # 1) for install directions and known issues. Search the thread for resolution and known issues before asking questions. Development forums have different rules and practices; you should stay on topic of development, failure resolution and help and search before asking the same question and avoid quoting long OP posts to ask a question. You may read the sticky threads in forums for more information.
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Well said and very, very informative thank you.
EMotroid v9 (AOSP) is my daily runner, COG5, no issues with anything including text, GPS, nothing, no issues. Stable, fast and reliable. No bugs
I been runing Hybrid 3.0 since i got my phone last year with xposed
no issues and great on battery life.
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Hi there XDA,
Definitely horrible at flashing and jazz, I have a quick question.
I had flashed JellyBeanv3 rom a while back and today I received the 4.1.2 OTA, now I'm wondering if my phone would brick if I updated.
What would the proper steps be to update? Also, would I be better off using CM10 (I hear a lot of good things about it, just don't know what's so special.)
Thanks,
-Mike
You won't brick, although you may lose root.
If you are fine with stock, then just upgrade to the OTA.
If not, then I'd upgrade to CM. They introduced the latest 4.1.2 upgrades in a matter of a couple days, so you're not lagging far behind official releases. CM includes an OTA updater so you can update to the latest nightly pretty easily.
To install CM, follow the directions at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1839882
What's "Jellybeanv3"? A custom rom?
An OTA update WILL NOT work on a custom rom.
If it's indeed custom built, I don't understand how you people are EVEN getting the update message.
If OP is on stock rom (no mods, etc) and talking about JZO54K OTA, then just run the update. If not (cwm installed, rooted+modified system files), read this thread.
About CM, do you think so many people love it just because? lol.
Try it yourself. Like reuthermonkey said, read the nightlies thread/first post, flash away.
Jellybeanv3 was a custom rom that came with awesomebeats, was pretty cool.
I decided against upgrading to ota, and went with cm10. Pretty much godlike in my opinion. The colors on this phone have never been more vibrant.
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In the hopes that this question may help others and not seeing this question being remotely asked from what i searched, Is it recommended to update to 4.4.2 KitKat or should I wait it out?
additional questions:
- is it better to flash it if i root my note 3? (MI7)
- should i root the note 3 at it's current version (4.3) and just stick to the roms currently available for it?
- most importantly, if i were to do the ota for 4.4.2 and root (with knox tripped) will i still be able to flash roms based on 4.4.2 (like cyanogenmod) without much problem?
things to know:
- I'm aware that installing the 4.4.2 update means i won't be able to revert back to 4.3.
- Mostly aware of the fact that a recovery is present for 4.4.2
- Not entirely sure if t-mobile locks their bootloaders on the new update. Some people on the forums hint that it's not locked but never really found a straight answer.
- Done a lot of forum digging but willing to search more if need be.
sincere apologies if my question sounds absurd and preposterous, however any answer is appreciated.
People have slightly mixed feelings on the update, but from what I'm seeing their mostly regretting taking the OTA or Odin flash and missing 4.3 JB. Though the new bootloader is not locked it would be better for you to just remain on 4.3 until devs can provide more support and information on the 4.4.2 official update. Besides as long as your on 4.3 you can still flash 4.4.2 roms and 4.3 roms you just need to follow instructions on the devs op. I myself opted to wait it out simply because my phone is flawless the way it is on 4.3 and there was not enough reason why 4.4.2 was a must have update, even if it was I still would have waited for the devs to do their thing first.
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Yeah I want to upgrade because I heard they fixed the AVRCP and I use it a lot, I was so pissed that samsung botched that when the note 3 came out. Now I hear that all the music apps can send meta data now.
If you cherish tethering, do not update.
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The short answer is no, and the long answer is hell no.
TWEAKED ROM has an update that stops the over-the-air (OTA) update. It's a separate zip with the mini-update.
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Yeah I want to upgrade because I heard they fixed the AVRCP and I use it a lot, I was so pissed that samsung botched that when the note 3 came out. Now I hear that all the music apps can send meta data now.
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While not exactly the same, "The More You Know...": http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/13/n...tadata-can-reveal-everything-about-your-life/
I finally took the plunge and rooted 4.3 and did the kitkat update while maintaining root so I can use the sd card write fix. My thoughts, is there is no advantage to kitkat but more disadvantages. I still get the occasional stutter and lag which rarely happened on JB so I broke even on that.
But I'm using Nova launcher and now home button does not take me to my default home screen. So I have to swipe to home screen since I have a folder in there for certain apps and games. Also the animation now just starts from the center when opening app from home screen.
The other issue is I use a samsung Gear and have it set to automatically unlock my phone when it's near it. But now I lost the ripple effect. I just get the lock icon with the 4 directional arrow around it.
There's also a slight battery drain. When I updated I didn't lose anything nor have I added any apps. Still trying to determine the cause on this one.
The worse part is I can't use foxfi anymore as it hasn't been updated to work with tmobile note3. Luckily I'm rooted so hopefully I can't find another way like Trev's wifi tethering.
If I could go back I would. I was pretty happy with JB unrooted. But I wanted to see if my signal would get better. I get an extra bar but when I go to see the signal status, it's still -115db when I'm at work.
The only thing I'm enjoying is finally I have root again which I could've done on JB. Being able to use titanium backup and LMT Pie again is awesome. I should've rooted sooner.
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In the hopes that this question may help others and not seeing this question being remotely asked from what i searched, Is it recommended to update to 4.4.2 KitKat or should I wait it out?
additional questions:
- is it better to flash it if i root my note 3? (MI7)
- should i root the note 3 at it's current version (4.3) and just stick to the roms currently available for it?
- most importantly, if i were to do the ota for 4.4.2 and root (with knox tripped) will i still be able to flash roms based on 4.4.2 (like cyanogenmod) without much problem?
things to know:
- I'm aware that installing the 4.4.2 update means i won't be able to revert back to 4.3.
- Mostly aware of the fact that a recovery is present for 4.4.2
- Not entirely sure if t-mobile locks their bootloaders on the new update. Some people on the forums hint that it's not locked but never really found a straight answer.
- Done a lot of forum digging but willing to search more if need be.
sincere apologies if my question sounds absurd and preposterous, however any answer is appreciated.
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Personally, for me, I feel that the KitKat update was beneficial in regards to battery life, and overall stability with ne6. The developers are obviously concentrating their efforts on the latest of updates. I recommend tweaked ROM as the features are endless, and the developer is a higher skilled one, unlike many that around. The boot loader are indeed not locked, and if you update to ne6 the latest KitKat, if you wanted you could back flash to nb4 kit kat, firmware and all, or just flash a nb4 based ROM in normal recovery, both work. Asop ROMs you will have no issue running either, as they are all unified, and are also based on KitKat.. Tethering, if you want the tethering i suggest a ROM, such as tweaked, and you will have that as well. Their are a lot of benefits man to updating, some may disagree, but their updates for a reason, stability, battery, modem, partitions, just an overall better experience. If you want a solid KitKat experience the way touch wiz should have been, with some awesome themes check out Wally's themes in the theme section and go ahead and hit me up for a tweaked alpha, or join the irc channel within dwitherells thread itself. Super helpful people. Willing to lend a hand. Good luck man.
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The short answer is no, and the long answer is hell no.
TWEAKED ROM has an update that stops the over-the-air (OTA) update. It's a separate zip with the mini-update.
While not exactly the same, "The More You Know...": http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/13/n...tadata-can-reveal-everything-about-your-life/
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I'm not quite sure what your talking about, but once you are rooted, and your device status is modified you automatically won't get the otas. Not just tweaked, but any ROM, including stock rooted.
It seems beneficial to you since you're using custom rom. I'm on kitkat rooted but knox has not been tripped and still "official" so I'm not gonna put custom rom and break warranty. I can still unroot.
My understanding is even if you have custom recovery you can't go back to 4.3 if your bootloader is upgraded to 4.4.
So for now my recommendation for anyone thinking of upgrading is stick to 4.3. Specially if you are running stock or just rooted.
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Still running 4.3 with Embryo ROM and runs flawless!
Don't update, run an aosp 4.4.3 ROM on your 4.3 boot loader, nuff said
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Don't update, run an aosp 4.4.3 ROM on your 4.3 boot loader, nuff said
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how can you do this? Im currently stock rooted 4.3 MI7 with knox 0x0. I thought you needed to update the bootloader to flash any 4.4 rom? If not, can I flash a rom using Mobile Odin Pro or safestrap or something without installing a custom recovery or kernel? Or do I pretty much have to trip knox to flash a 4.4 custom rom and keep the 4.3 bootloader?
Hello! I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to updating firmware and I've heard that it's really easy to brick your device if you screw it up so I want to ask some questions before I dive in.
From what i've gathered, this is the right place to get the latest firmware and flashing instructions. Do I need to flash the full firmware if I'm not planning on using a stock/Sense ROM? Would it matter either way?
I'm on CM 10.2 now and was thinking about checking out the latest CM 12 nightly or maybe one of the Lollipop GPE ROMs. I don't think I'll be going to a Sense ROM.
P.S. I've had this phone since August 2013 and have never updates the firmware.
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Hello! I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to updating firmware and I've heard that it's really easy to brick your device if you screw it up so I want to ask some questions before I dive in.
From what i've gathered, this is the right place to get the latest firmware and flashing instructions. Do I need to flash the full firmware if I'm not planning on using a stock/Sense ROM? Would it matter either way?
I'm on CM 10.2 now and was thinking about checking out the latest CM 12 nightly or maybe one of the Lollipop GPE ROMs. I don't think I'll be going to a Sense ROM.
P.S. I've had this phone since August 2013 and have never updates the firmware.
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HTC has not released a lollipop version of the stock ROM yet, so there is technically no "lollipop firmware" yet. With the most recent firmware which accompanied the 4.4.3 OTA version, you can still run a lollipop ROM but it seems like a lot of people experience errors with them. Maybe it has more to do with bugs in 5.0.x since lollipop has not been out that long yet rather than outdated firmware, i really don't know. But I am on the most recent firmware and had the now infamous "can't send more than 1 SMS per boot" problem, so I rolled back to stock after a week or two. Either way, you are very, very out of date with your firmware. The level of risk associated with updating it probably isn't as high as you have been lead to think. Just follow the commands in the thread you posted exactly. I have done it many times and my phone has never been bricked.
As for your question as to whether or not it matter if you are not using stock or Sense, yes it still does. AOSP ROMs like CM or GPE still are designed to work with the phone's firmware. CM11 or 12 is intended to work with whatever firmware is out by the time the ROM is being compiled.
Hello everyone, just picked up a note 4 and was wondering if i could get guided into the right direction.
Am hoping to install a custom rom, seeing as how my about me says that I am on OF5 I can root and install TWRP through ODIn via the instructions posted on galaxynote4root.com ?
If I want to use features such as S Note, sign pdfs, and have the thimbprint reader I assume I need to run a touchwiz custom rom? It was like that for the Note 2. Any guidance towards slimmed out roms? On my old S3 I was on darkslim and would love to find something of a fast and stable rom that can be themed entirely black while using the extra features of the note that are actually useful.
If I want to use viper audio does that lock me into aosp or touchwiz specifically?
From the little I have browsed so far, the NOTERIZED rom looks to be the one?
Other things that slightly stood out would be Hybrid-x, obar,SOKP?
What is the deal with 5.1.1? Something about a locked bootloader that forces use to run a custom kernel?Do I not have to worry about that because of OF5? Am I slightly screwed because I'm not on OB7? There's issues such as no wifi calling? Would this affect sprint spark? I'm in an area where this is available. ..
Any other suggestions? Are my desires too contradictory? Btw is there anything that allows me to have my wallpapers change everyday? I'm currently using AllianceRom for my note 2 and there is a feature in which the colors of my theme change everyday...
Would really appreciate any and all help.
Lastly,thanks again for reading this far.
-Bryan
You wouldn't have issues with Wi-Fi calling or V4A on either of those ROMs that I'm aware of. You didn't mention freeza's Note 4our ROM but I'd recommend that one too.
Regarding OF5, no real advantage to keep that or its bootloader due to similar issues- no Odin downgrade capability. Depending on how you look at it; slightly disadvantaged, no downgrade through Odin/user lockable reactivation lock that will give you fits if you enable it and try to flash over it.
TW will yield the most capabilities for Note devices. You'll need to upgrade to OG5 through Odin, Odin TWRP and flash the custom ROM of your choice. All OG5 custom should include a kernel exploited for root capability as well as SuperSU in the ROM flash.
Disclaimer: I only answered what I knew. Perhaps others have answers to what I neglected.
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Thank you, much appreciated! So OG5 it is!
Been perusing the forums and I've seen a few anecdotal opinions on using one or the other, but not enough to catch a trend. Have we arrived at a consensus?
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PD1 is the better of the two but still not without its flaws. Both run hot and kill battery life but PF3 is the buggier of the two. So far, nothing beat the original KitKat 4.4.4 build but the January 5.1.1 update, BOK3, is the best of the recent batch for battery life & reception.
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PD1 is the better of the two but still not without its flaws. Both run hot and kill battery life but PF3 is the buggier of the two. So far, nothing beat the original KitKat 4.4.4 build but the January 5.1.1 update, BOK3, is the best of the recent batch for battery life & reception.
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I sure do agree that they run hot especially withe GPS and/or hotspot active. So, confirming, with what you have have seen using the PD1 kernel for marshmallow is best? Can BOK3 be used for marshmallow or do I have to have a MM kernel for marshmallow; I would assume that.
I assume this is only for the kernel and the bootloader should stay at BPA/BPD with the safe update according to @hsbadr.
Finally, I have been thinking of trying out a kitkat rom and a lollipop rom on my dev'd Retail N910V. Do you think that is possible? I would assume that I need to flash a kitkat kernel and the BPA kernel appropriately. But I can leave my bootloader at BPA1 or BPD1 correct?
Any tips/links for changing roms (kitkat, lollipop, marshmallow) appreciated.
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I sure do agree that they run hot especially withe GPS and/or hotspot active. So, confirming, with what you have have seen using the PD1 kernel for marshmallow is best? Can BOK3 be used for marshmallow or do I have to have a MM kernel for marshmallow; I would assume that.
I assume this is only for the kernel and the bootloader should stay at BPA/BPD with the safe update according to @hsbadr.
Finally, I have been thinking of trying out a kitkat rom and a lollipop rom on my dev'd Retail N910V. Do you think that is possible? I would assume that I need to flash a kitkat kernel and the BPA kernel appropriately. But I can leave my bootloader at BPA1 or BPD1 correct?
Any tips/links for changing roms (kitkat, lollipop, marshmallow) appreciated.
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These are not kernels. They are bootloader/modem combos. I do not think it is wise to flash a Marshmallow modem on a Lollipop bootloader. I would also not be flashing bootloaders when I don't know what I'm doing. There is no instruction on this forum that requires flashing either bootloaders or modems by themselves. If you want a Marshmallow modem you have two options: flash the full firmware, lock your bootloader and lose root, or follow the procedure for upgrading to Marshmallow in the development section. You seem to be confused between the terms "kernel," "bootloader," and "modem." I'd suggest you do a bit of homework to learn the differences before you start flashing anything.
If yours is a true Developer Edition phone, you can peruse the Development section. I'm not aware of any KitKat or Lollipop ROM that is being supported, but most of those ROMS were created when you couldn't unlock a Retail Edition phone.
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These are not kernels. They are bootloader/modem combos. I do not think it is wise to flash a Marshmallow modem on a Lollipop bootloader. I would also not be flashing bootloaders when I don't know what I'm doing. There is no instruction on this forum that requires flashing either bootloaders or modems by themselves. If you want a Marshmallow modem you have two options: flash the full firmware, lock your bootloader and lose root, or follow the procedure for upgrading to Marshmallow in the development section. You seem to be confused between the terms "kernel," "bootloader," and "modem." I'd suggest you do a bit of homework to learn the differences before you start flashing anything.
If yours is a true Developer Edition phone, you can peruse the Development section. I'm not aware of any KitKat or Lollipop ROM that is being supported, but most of those ROMS were created when you couldn't unlock a Retail Edition phone.
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Thank you for your response and concern. I have been flashing roms and items for nearly 6 years. I accidentially late last night flashed a bootloader when I was trying to flash a modem. I made a mistake. On the safestrap Verizon Note 3 N900V we often changed modems because some thought they saw better reception (placebo?) and they all worked even with the latest roms. Sometimes partial firmware flashes combines two of these items.
Mine is not an original developer edition. I take your's is. I will take your advice and peruse the development area. Even if unsupported it seems that some of the kitkat roms may have been the most stable. Just had an interaction from another person with a dev edition on that.
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Thank you for your response and concern. I have been flashing roms and items for nearly 6 years. I accidentially late last night flashed a bootloader when I was trying to flash a modem. I made a mistake. On the safestrap Verizon Note 3 N900V we often changed modems because some thought they saw better reception (placebo?) and they all worked even with the latest roms. Sometimes partial firmware flashes combines two of these items.
Mine is not an original developer edition. I take your's is. I will take your advice and peruse the development area. Even if unsupported it seems that some of the kitkat roms may have been the most stable. Just had an interaction from another person with a dev edition on that.
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Mine is an unlocked Retail Edition. My concern was that there are too many people here that flash stuff indiscriminately when they don't know what they're doing then think someone else can bail them out of their jam.
I've been on two HTC phones and the S4 and none of them required goofing with bootloaders. The Note 4 is unique in my experience because there's a bootloader for each edition of Android. I'm not a developer but I suspect that is part of Samsung's effort to lock the thing down.
My experience with the rooted Note 4 is from Lollipop up. I can't help you with regards to your desire to flash KitKat. I don't know if you'll need a KitKat bootloader or not. Almost all of the "old timers" are gone to greener pastures. You can still dig around that subforum. You can also go here, but you'll be on your own getting carrier data and perhaps wifi to work.
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Been perusing the forums and I've seen a few anecdotal opinions on using one or the other, but not enough to catch a trend. Have we arrived at a consensus?
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My problem with PD1 was that I could only get bluetooth to work up to a distance of about five feet or so. PF3 seemed to fix that. Otherwise, I've noticed no other difference.
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Mine is an unlocked Retail Edition. My concern was that there are too many people here that flash stuff indiscriminately when they don't know what they're doing then think someone else can bail them out of their jam.
I've been on two HTC phones and the S4 and none of them required goofing with bootloaders. The Note 4 is unique in my experience because there's a bootloader for each edition of Android. I'm not a developer but I suspect that is part of Samsung's effort to lock the thing down.
My experience with the rooted Note 4 is from Lollipop up. I can't help you with regards to your desire to flash KitKat. I don't know if you'll need a KitKat bootloader or not. Almost all of the "old timers" are gone to greener pastures. You can still dig around that subforum. You can also go here, but you'll be on your own getting carrier data and perhaps wifi to work.
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My problem with PD1 was that I could only get bluetooth to work up to a distance of about five feet or so. PF3 seemed to fix that. Otherwise, I've noticed no other difference.
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Yes Samsung is different and I have the retail like you. I've rooted rommed and kernel Droid, three HTCs, the Note 3, and now the Note 4.
I agree that people need to be careful.
I have successfully re unlocked the bootloader, and I have flashed a kitkat rom. Before or after the flash a person would need to flash the ANJ kernel and modem. Either missing will cause a boot loop. Things are working nicely. We'll see if I end up on kitkat or marshmallow. I had my Note 3 so honed with Amplify, Greenify, and the AllianceROM that marshmallow may not add that much for me.
Yes, I've looked at the snapdragon area as well. So many things to try but I just don't have the time.