Hello! I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to updating firmware and I've heard that it's really easy to brick your device if you screw it up so I want to ask some questions before I dive in.
From what i've gathered, this is the right place to get the latest firmware and flashing instructions. Do I need to flash the full firmware if I'm not planning on using a stock/Sense ROM? Would it matter either way?
I'm on CM 10.2 now and was thinking about checking out the latest CM 12 nightly or maybe one of the Lollipop GPE ROMs. I don't think I'll be going to a Sense ROM.
P.S. I've had this phone since August 2013 and have never updates the firmware.
JGress said:
Hello! I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to updating firmware and I've heard that it's really easy to brick your device if you screw it up so I want to ask some questions before I dive in.
From what i've gathered, this is the right place to get the latest firmware and flashing instructions. Do I need to flash the full firmware if I'm not planning on using a stock/Sense ROM? Would it matter either way?
I'm on CM 10.2 now and was thinking about checking out the latest CM 12 nightly or maybe one of the Lollipop GPE ROMs. I don't think I'll be going to a Sense ROM.
P.S. I've had this phone since August 2013 and have never updates the firmware.
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HTC has not released a lollipop version of the stock ROM yet, so there is technically no "lollipop firmware" yet. With the most recent firmware which accompanied the 4.4.3 OTA version, you can still run a lollipop ROM but it seems like a lot of people experience errors with them. Maybe it has more to do with bugs in 5.0.x since lollipop has not been out that long yet rather than outdated firmware, i really don't know. But I am on the most recent firmware and had the now infamous "can't send more than 1 SMS per boot" problem, so I rolled back to stock after a week or two. Either way, you are very, very out of date with your firmware. The level of risk associated with updating it probably isn't as high as you have been lead to think. Just follow the commands in the thread you posted exactly. I have done it many times and my phone has never been bricked.
As for your question as to whether or not it matter if you are not using stock or Sense, yes it still does. AOSP ROMs like CM or GPE still are designed to work with the phone's firmware. CM11 or 12 is intended to work with whatever firmware is out by the time the ROM is being compiled.
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Hi there XDA,
Definitely horrible at flashing and jazz, I have a quick question.
I had flashed JellyBeanv3 rom a while back and today I received the 4.1.2 OTA, now I'm wondering if my phone would brick if I updated.
What would the proper steps be to update? Also, would I be better off using CM10 (I hear a lot of good things about it, just don't know what's so special.)
Thanks,
-Mike
You won't brick, although you may lose root.
If you are fine with stock, then just upgrade to the OTA.
If not, then I'd upgrade to CM. They introduced the latest 4.1.2 upgrades in a matter of a couple days, so you're not lagging far behind official releases. CM includes an OTA updater so you can update to the latest nightly pretty easily.
To install CM, follow the directions at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1839882
What's "Jellybeanv3"? A custom rom?
An OTA update WILL NOT work on a custom rom.
If it's indeed custom built, I don't understand how you people are EVEN getting the update message.
If OP is on stock rom (no mods, etc) and talking about JZO54K OTA, then just run the update. If not (cwm installed, rooted+modified system files), read this thread.
About CM, do you think so many people love it just because? lol.
Try it yourself. Like reuthermonkey said, read the nightlies thread/first post, flash away.
Jellybeanv3 was a custom rom that came with awesomebeats, was pretty cool.
I decided against upgrading to ota, and went with cm10. Pretty much godlike in my opinion. The colors on this phone have never been more vibrant.
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Bit of a noob question, but before I rooted/flashed custom firmware my stock firmware was 1.54.651.8. At some point I'm going to have to update it, so it works with new roms right? Also, how do I go about updating without loosing my root?
The devs of any rom worth flashing always incorporate the latest stock updates into a new version of their rom.
Most custom roms update monthly. HTC updates... what? Every 6 month?
Just stick with the custom rom you like and rest assured - your not missing out on anything the stock rom may have to offer. But if you feel the need, just RUU back to stock....
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The devs of any rom worth flashing always incorporate the latest stock updates into a new version of their rom.
Most custom roms update monthly. HTC updates... what? Every 6 month?
Just stick with the custom rom you like and rest assured - your not missing out on anything the stock rom may have to offer. But if you feel the need, just RUU back to stock....
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Thanks.
Hey! I've been spending hours reverting my rom to stock and doing my OTAs to get to lollipop.
My phone is a Bell M8 with S-ON. I am currently up to 4.4.4 and about to do the Lollipop update. I am aware I should do sunshine on 4.4.3 but am broke right now so was just thinking of waiting until it works on Lollipop.
That being said, the current Bell OTA for Lollipop is version 4.20.666.1 (awesome numbers btw) and most roms say I need firmware 4.16.x.x.
My question is, will those roms work properly on this firmware? Or should I go back to 4.4.3 and use sunshine (I am impatient and want lollipop now, but stock roms suck.)
Thanks for the help!
edit: I found this advice in a rom thread
In future Rom releases, you may stick with your region’s firmware as long as that firmware is from the current released base, such as 5.0.1, 5.0.2, etc.
Firmware flashing is not required for every Rom update. Most of the time it is best to remain on your phone’s native firmware for best signal reception, battery life, and overall performance.
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So does that mean as long as the rom is the same version 5.0.x that I should be fine?
Ya you should be fine tuning that firmware with the Rom... Can I ask you to also please upload the ota for us ...I've been looking for it all around
danial.aw said:
Ya you should be fine tuning that firmware with the Rom... Can I ask you to also please upload the ota for us ...I've been looking for it all around
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Where do I find it I haven't update yet.. I'd you can tell me where it is located I can extract and upload it.
I have a TWRP backup of it. Would that work or probably not since the firmware isn't there.
I was hoping to upgrade my firmware(3.32.531.2) to the newest version(4.16.401.10). My baseline nand back up is the original htc tmobile 4.4.4 rom after it was boot loader unlocked, rooted, and s-offed, but nothing else.
If I upgrade to the latest and greatest firmware will that rom still run, or can that only work with android 5.x?
Basically I wanted to upgrade the firmware, make sure that all works, then move to a 5.x rom. I've tested a few 5.x roms and they worked with the older firmware, but I was curious if people knew if it worked the other way?
Thanks!
Device:
Tmo 4.4.4 m8
current firmware 3.32.531.2
Mostly stock - unlocked bootloader, rooted, and s-offed. Still on original htc image
Sartan4455 said:
I was hoping to upgrade my firmware(3.32.531.2) to the newest version(4.16.401.10). My baseline nand back up is the original htc tmobile 4.4.4 rom after it was boot loader unlocked, rooted, and s-offed, but nothing else.
If I upgrade to the latest and greatest firmware will that rom still run, or can that only work with android 5.x?
Basically I wanted to upgrade the firmware, make sure that all works, then move to a 5.x rom. I've tested a few 5.x roms and they worked with the older firmware, but I was curious if people knew if it worked the other way?
Thanks!
Device:
Tmo 4.4.4 m8
current firmware 3.32.531.2
Mostly stock - unlocked bootloader, rooted, and s-offed. Still on original htc image
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It does work the other way, better than old firmware and new ROM. With old FW and a newer ROM, you will possibly have data connection issues, particularly WiFi.
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It does work the other way, better than old firmware and new ROM. With old FW and a newer ROM, you will possibly have data connection issues, particularly WiFi.
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So to be clear: old firmware and new rom works(and I've tried it) but may have issues(I had lte issues but was fine with wifi) but also new firmware old rom shouldn't cause real issues(aka unbootable)? When I was doing this with my old htc sensation sometimes that wasn't the case(but this was back in the good old gingerbread days). New rom(ics) and old firmware was bad news.
If something goes wrong, I want to be able to roll back to my working nand back up of 4.4.4, but if the firmware doesn't allow it, I could have some serious issues.
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So to be clear: old firmware and new rom works(and I've tried it) but may have issues(I had lte issues but was fine with wifi) but also new firmware old rom shouldn't cause real issues(aka unbootable)? When I was doing this with my old htc sensation sometimes that wasn't the case(but this was back in the good old gingerbread days). New rom(ics) and old firmware was bad news.
If something goes wrong, I want to be able to roll back to my working nand back up of 4.4.4, but if the firmware doesn't allow it, I could have some serious issues.
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Yeah, don't worry. I had 4.16.401.10 on a 4.4.4 ROM for a month or more.
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Yeah, don't worry. I had 4.16.401.10 on a 4.4.4 ROM for a month or more.
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Great That's what I wanted to know! I had to wait months to s-off..(sunshine 3.x+) after having free reign with my sensation. I'm just so excited!
Nice to know.
And what about Xposed? If i don't get wrong, it doesn't work on Lollipop because Lollipop is ART-based.
So it should not be any way related to firmware, meaning that I could have the latest firmware (able to support a Lollipop ROM), a Kitkat based ROM AND working Xposed.
Could it be?
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Yeah, don't worry. I had 4.16.401.10 on a 4.4.4 ROM for a month or more.
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It worked just fine. Rocking 4.16.401.10 and skydragon 4.2.5 for now! Much thanks!
sbiricuda said:
Nice to know.
And what about Xposed? If i don't get wrong, it doesn't work on Lollipop because Lollipop is ART-based.
So it should not be any way related to firmware, meaning that I could have the latest firmware (able to support a Lollipop ROM), a Kitkat based ROM AND working Xposed.
Could it be?
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I don't use Xposed, but I believe it will work fine with new firmware as long as you are still on a 4.4.4 base. Xposed modifies /system which is part of the ROM.
Sartan4455 said:
It worked just fine. Rocking 4.16.401.10 and skydragon 4.2.5 for now! Much thanks!
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How's it going on so far? Still fine?
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How's it going on so far? Still fine?
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Oh yah. Going great. I've settled on LeeDroid as my daily driver, but want a gpe/aosp version that works better in the end. CM12, Blisspop, skydragon(and I've tried others) have all had an issue or two for me that pulled me back to leedroid's. I've not wanted to make the switch to full GPE conversion yet, but maybe one day...
I'm curious which ROM for the Sprint Galaxy Note 4 is currently best for day to day use?
I would love to use a clean CM ROM, but the CM ROMs I've tried seem to have random little bugs, which after weeks of use become very annoying. I haven't tested many TouchWiz ROMs for the Note 4, which is why I'm making this post.
Question 1:Simply, which ROM(s) are most stable currently? I would just test them myself but the last few weeks I've become extremely busy and I just don't have the time to test many different ROMs.
Questions 2: Are you using a custom ROM? If so, which, and how long have you been using it?
Thanks! ((((((
You're not providing enough information to answer the question. Custom ROMs based on OB7 or lower are not compatible with OE1 and OF5 builds. Nor can those be downgraded without great consequence. For reference, OB7 is the initial Lollipop build.
What's your build number by last 3 digits? Be careful if on those or taking OTA to those if custom is your primary interest. Xposed it's another similar issue but limited to deodexed ROMs if you're talking about TW Lollipop.
Custom ROMs will come for OF5. Patience.
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samep said:
You're not providing enough information to answer the question. Custom ROMs based on OB7 or lower are not compatible with OE1 and OF5 builds. Nor can those be downgraded without great consequence. For reference, OB7 is the initial Lollipop build.
What's your build number by last 3 digits? Be careful if on those or taking OTA to those if custom is your primary interest. Xposed it's another similar issue but limited to deodexed ROMs if you're talking about TW Lollipop.
Custom ROMs will come for OF5. Patience.
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I also have the same question but do not know what an OTA, OE1, OF5, OB7 are. I am rooted but never flashed a rom before I am on the galaxy note 4 910P 6.0.1 PD1 build. I want a stable rom for everyday use.
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I also have the same question but do not know what an OTA, OE1, OF5, OB7 are. I am rooted but never flashed a rom before I am on the galaxy note 4 910P 6.0.1 PD1 build. I want a stable rom for everyday use.
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OTA is short for Over The Air. It's typically referred to as an update build which is what the others are.
Builds or updates increase numerically. To shorten the update in full, the last three digits are typically accepted here as a quick reference to save time.
For example, so far, the Sprint Note 4 has had 3 official updates including the first which was PC1. Then there was PD1 and just this week, PE1 became available. Typically OTA update is available first, followed by a full tar at some point.
OTA updates, if taken, are taken incrementally one after the other without skipping because they patch the previous update. It's the system update method found in Settings menu that you're most likely familiar with.
The tar updates are full updates and can be flashed (Odin is the application for that) out of sequence, if bootloader allows the flash. The bootloader may block install if reactivation lock (aka factory reset protection) is set or tripped or if a lesser security bootloader of a lower build is attempted. For example, you cannot go back to Android 5.0 or 4.4 using Odin to flash the tar; the bootloader would prevent downgrade to lower security bootloader. Rooted users may flash full tars to update or revert to stock to take the next OTA update but modified partitions can and most often will prohibit OTA update. There's also a baseband and bootloader thread in development for those that know what to do with them to assist in compatibility of current build in TWRP backup.
As for custom stock ROMs, I can say they're in development but one mostly stock PD1 ROM exists. Developer tools have slowed the advance of touchwiz stock developed Marshmallow ROMs so it's hard to predict their availability.
Since we just got an update, it may be longer now than thought possible for a custom ROM on PE1 update. CM ROMs are available but they may lack S-Pen and touchwiz features found in stock. You can find released ROMs in the development forum. If interested, follow the OP (original post or post # 1) for install directions and known issues. Search the thread for resolution and known issues before asking questions. Development forums have different rules and practices; you should stay on topic of development, failure resolution and help and search before asking the same question and avoid quoting long OP posts to ask a question. You may read the sticky threads in forums for more information.
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Well said and very, very informative thank you.
EMotroid v9 (AOSP) is my daily runner, COG5, no issues with anything including text, GPS, nothing, no issues. Stable, fast and reliable. No bugs
I been runing Hybrid 3.0 since i got my phone last year with xposed
no issues and great on battery life.