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Missing Firmware

Hey folks.
So I was running CM11 on my Rogers M8 for quite some time, until I decided to flash Sense based roms. Uh-oh, Wifi doesnt work anymore. Decided to do some digging, and realized that it's due to my older firmware which needs to be updated.
I followed the guides, and did the following to prepare:
Flashed stock recovery. I know it worked due to the triangle and explamation mark.
Relocked the bootloader through ADB commands.
Proceeded to ADB "fastboot getvar all" to see my current version.
That's when I saw that right next to the "version-main" it's empty. No numbers. Consequently, I haven't been able to flash any firmwares since it never passes any checks.
I am S-ON (firewater didnt work), CID is ROGER001, and completely exhausted. Please, help me figure this out.

yasha.sinitski said:
Hey folks.
So I was running CM11 on my Rogers M8 for quite some time, until I decided to flash Sense based roms. Uh-oh, Wifi doesnt work anymore. Decided to do some digging, and realized that it's due to my older firmware which needs to be updated.
I followed the guides, and did the following to prepare:
Flashed stock recovery. I know it worked due to the triangle and explamation mark.
Relocked the bootloader through ADB commands.
Proceeded to ADB "fastboot getvar all" to see my current version.
That's when I saw that right next to the "version-main" it's empty. No numbers. Consequently, I haven't been able to flash any firmwares since it never passes any checks.
I am S-ON (firewater didnt work), CID is ROGER001, and completely exhausted. Please, help me figure this out.
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The Bootloader 3.18. tells you, you have 2.x firmware

So what is stopping me from flashing new firmware each time?

yasha.sinitski said:
So what is stopping me from flashing new firmware each time?
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Not being SuperCID?
What do you mean each time?
You can flash stock firmware without going back to stock. As long as your MID and CID match.
Just download stock rogers firmware, rename and install it in hboot, or use RUU mode in fastboot.

xunholyx said:
Not being SuperCID?
What do you mean each time?
You can flash stock firmware without going back to stock. As long as your MID and CID match.
Just download stock rogers firmware, rename and install it in hboot, or use RUU mode in fastboot.
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You see, I tried that. I downloaded stock rogers firmware, and ADB just spits out an error message saying that something doesnt match up. If I recall, it was error 12.

yasha.sinitski said:
You see, I tried that. I downloaded stock rogers firmware, and ADB just spits out an error message saying that something doesnt match up. If I recall, it was error 12.
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It might be because you have a modified /system partition. Do you use Xposed?

xunholyx said:
It might be because you have a modified /system partition. Do you use Xposed?
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No. My endgoal is to simply be running Roger's stock rom with full functionality. I just cant figure out how to get to that. I dont care about getting OTAs.

yasha.sinitski said:
No. My endgoal is to simply be running Roger's stock rom with full functionality. I just cant figure out how to get to that. I dont care about getting OTAs.
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Here are all the files to download to go back to stock rogers. Download and zip them, then use TWRP to flash. Afterwards you will just have to install a stock recovery to be fully stock, but if you don't carte about OTAs, stick with TWRP. That way you can make nandroid backups.
EDIT: I'm mistaken here. You need them unzipped. PM sent.
For others with the same issue of returning to Canadian stock, go to this thread for links and a guide on how to do so.

xunholyx said:
Here are all the files to download to go back to stock rogers. Download and zip them, then use TWRP to flash. Afterwards you will just have to install a stock recovery to be fully stock, but if you don't carte about OTAs, stick with TWRP. That way you can make nandroid backups.
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Are you going to post links? No matter what you do, I cant thank you enough for your help.

yasha.sinitski said:
Are you going to post links? No matter what you do, I cant thank you enough for your help.
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Whoops!
Here ya go.

xunholyx said:
Whoops!
Here ya go.
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Doing all that right now. I'll update how it goes.

yasha.sinitski said:
Doing all that right now. I'll update how it goes.
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The getvar tell me, you are S-ON.
But you need S-OFF to flash a new firmware.
Otherwise you brick your phone.
That the firmware number is not showing is not critical i think. Its a symtom of some roms.
I flashed the newest firmware to my m7, number was showing. Then i flash Viper 7.0.1 and after that, my number is hidden.
But everything works, so i think its not critical.

Roma80 said:
The getvar tell me, you are S-ON.
But you need S-OFF to flash a new firmware.
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Not true, you can flash the latest firmware if you're S-ON, the only "catch" is that it MUST be the correct MID and CID(That's in Firmware.zip) else it won't flash.
It's also the only way for an S-ON device to update it's Radio, as it won't be able to manually flash Radio's if it's not S-OFF.
Of course you need to relock your bootloader to do this with S-ON. So get stock recovery also, of course make backups of everything you need backed up as relocking it might erase all data.

BerndM14 said:
Not true, you can flash the latest firmware if you're S-ON, the only "catch" is that it MUST be the correct MID and CID(That's in Firmware.zip) else it won't flash.
It's also the only way for an S-ON device to update it's Radio, as it won't be able to manually flash Radio's if it's not S-OFF.
Of course you need to relock your bootloader to do this with S-ON. So get stock recovery also, of course make backups of everything you need backed up as relocking it might erase all data.
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Oh okay, good to know.
I read wrong / missunderstood on other thread.

Roma80 said:
Oh okay, good to know.
I read wrong / missunderstood on other thread.
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Yeah, Mike's guide has some good info. A lot of misinformation out there about some stuff.
He also has an excellent blog with plenty of info/resources if you're bored and what to read up on some stuff. Great site.
Android Revolution HD :good:

Modified Status in Recovery

Hey guys !
As the title suggests. What does that mean? and how do i revert to official locked ?
I have s-on and have rooted and installed twrp, and cwm afterwards. And decided to go back to stock( because the current methods of changing to s-off are not working) by flashing through cwm a RUU backup. And flashing the stock recovery afterwards. I have also declined root access when prompted by cwm after RUU install.
What can I do to return to 100% stock ?
After entering fastboot The first text is ***MODIFIED*** and at os there is blank space. I want to return my phone to out of the box state.

sherbibv said:
Hey guys !
As the title suggests. What does that mean? and how do i revert to official locked ?
I have s-on and have rooted and installed twrp, and cwm afterwards. And decided to go back to stock( because the current methods of changing to s-off are not working) by flashing through cwm a RUU backup. And flashing the stock recovery afterwards. I have also declined root access when prompted by cwm after RUU install.
What can I do to return to 100% stock ?
After entering fastboot The first text is ***MODIFIED*** and at os there is blank space. I want to return my phone to out of the box state.
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You need S-OFF. With S-ON you cannot remove the 'MODIFIED' text.

XSL-FO said:
You need S-OFF. With S-ON you cannot remove the 'MODIFIED' text.
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I don't just want to remove the text. I want the whole rom to be brand new and stock. And LOCKED

sherbibv said:
I don't just want to remove the text. I want the whole rom to be brand new and stock. And LOCKED
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You must S-OFF. Remove texts, unroot, relock bootloader and go S-ON.

sherbibv said:
I don't just want to remove the text. I want the whole rom to be brand new and stock. And LOCKED
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Doesn't matter, you can restore stock ROM until the cows come home. You won't be able to change the modified flag in the bootloader. You need S-OFF to change the text to "official" just like you'll need S-OFF to change the bootloader "locked" text to "Locked" and not "Relocked" if you relock the bootloader.
You will NOT be able to have it show the same way it was "out of box" if you do NOT have S-OFF.

So the only way is to buy the s-off service with 25$ right?

BerndM14 said:
Doesn't matter, you can restore stock ROM until the cows come home. You won't be able to change the modified flag in the bootloader. You need S-OFF to change the text to "official" just like you'll need S-OFF to change the bootloader "locked" text to "Locked" and not "Relocked" if you relock the bootloader.
You will NOT be able to have it show the same way it was "out of box" if you do NOT have S-OFF.
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Sorry for the noob question, but what does modified imply ? What does it mean exactly?

sherbibv said:
Sorry for the noob question, but what does modified imply ? What does it mean exactly?
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It means unlocked botloader and of course rooted. It means that you have tampered with the software.

XSL-FO said:
It means unlocked botloader and of course rooted. It means that you have tampered with the software.
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But I can continue running like this without a problem right?
It won't cause any instability ?
And also, can I install OTAs?

sherbibv said:
But I can continue running like this without a problem right?
It won't cause any instability ?
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Any at all. You can run it safely like this.

XSL-FO said:
Any at all. You can run it safely like this.
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what about OTAs?

sherbibv said:
what about OTAs?
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You will be able to recieve OTA's but if you want to install them you will need to go back to stock recovery. Easy. After OTA flash again a custom one.

XSL-FO said:
You will be able to recieve OTA's but if you want to install them you will need to go back to stock recovery. Easy. After OTA flash again a custom one.
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I'm currently on stock recovery

sherbibv said:
I'm currently on stock recovery
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It's ok. Keep it if you want.

sherbibv said:
I'm currently on stock recovery
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Then you're fine.
Rooted, S-OFF, Modified status, none of those will prevent OTA updates. You MUST have stock reocovery and stock ROM for OTA updates i.e No changes to system files, no deleted apps, no xposed framework.
If all those are stock you can get and install OTA no problem. Don't even have to relock the bootloader for it.

BerndM14 said:
Then you're fine.
Rooted, S-OFF, Modified status, none of those will prevent OTA updates. You MUST have stock reocovery and stock ROM for OTA updates i.e No changes to system files, no deleted apps, no xposed framework.
If all those are stock you can get and install OTA no problem. Don't even have to relock the bootloader for it.
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I had Xposed and still I was able to upgrade.

Thanks allot guys !
Have e great day ! :good:

sherbibv said:
Thanks allot guys !
Have e great day ! :good:
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You too. Good luck.

[Q] On custom ROM but want to go back to stock?

Hey everyone,
So here's what I've done on my phone:
Unlocked Bootloader
Installed TWRP
Rooted
Flashed custom ROM with kernel (specifically SkyDragon with its kernel)
I am still S-ON
Now I want to go back to stock. I found this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2696147
Can I just follow the steps (unzip the file, put it in the folder, and use restore in TWRP) and then go back to stock (with the root the OP said)?
Thanks

RUUs, OTAs, Stock TWRP Backups, Firmware & More Collection
Grab your CID nandroid from link provided, unpack it into TWRP/Philz backup folder, restore. Flash back stock recovery if you prefer(a MUST if you want to do OTAs)

BerndM14 said:
RUUs, OTAs, Stock TWRP Backups, Firmware & More Collection
Grab your CID nandroid from link provided, unpack it into TWRP/Philz backup folder, restore. Flash back stock recovery if you prefer(a MUST if you want to do OTAs)
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Thanks for the response. So this will return me back to stock without having to do anything else? Sorry I've been panicking for the past couple hours since I'm new to the M8 (previously flashed Nexus 4 constantly but M8 seems a lot harder)

Big Boy Marky said:
Thanks for the response. Will this return me back to stock?
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Yes.

BerndM14 said:
Yes.
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Alright thank you very much I'll give it a shot and give an update on what happens

BerndM14 said:
Yes.
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Just to make sure, my cidnum is CWS__001 so I just download the
1.58.502.1 - TWRP Thanks to MLIGN
and then restore from that?

Big Boy Marky said:
Just to make sure, my cidnum is CWS__001 so I just download the
1.58.502.1 - TWRP Thanks to MLIGN
and then restore from that?
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Yes.
What version did you have before putting custom ROM on? Was it 1.58 or 2.x?
If it was 1.58.502.1 you can also run the RUU for AT&T
But even if it's 2.x you can still restore the 1.58 and restore it, put on a stock recovery and let the OTA's roll :good:

BerndM14 said:
Yes.
What version did you have before putting custom ROM on? Was it 1.58 or 2.x?
If it was 1.58.502.1 you can also run the RUU for AT&T
But even if it's 2.x you can still restore the 1.58 and restore it, put on a stock recovery and let the OTA's roll :good:
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Not really sure.... Right now I'm figuring out how to get the folder onto my internal sd card.. only problem is I can't even boot into the phone. I can sideload it but it'll be a zip and I can't seem to figure out how to unzip in TWRP....

BerndM14 said:
Yes.
What version did you have before putting custom ROM on? Was it 1.58 or 2.x?
If it was 1.58.502.1 you can also run the RUU for AT&T
But even if it's 2.x you can still restore the 1.58 and restore it, put on a stock recovery and let the OTA's roll :good:
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Depending on why you are wanting to return to stock, you might consider that the Developer Edition phone is the same model as the AT&T phone - only the CID are different (MID is the same). I'm an AT&T customer and I've been running the Developer Edition software since about day 3 (I waited to make sure the phone was okay) and I have had zero problems with it. The only thing I sorta miss is Visual Voicemail, but otherwise I've been happier than a clam.
You do have to S-off to switch the CID if you want OTA updates, but a nandroid backup would probably work fine as well.

Big Boy Marky said:
Not really sure.... Right now I'm figuring out how to get the folder onto my internal sd card.. only problem is I can't even boot into the phone. I can sideload it but it'll be a zip and I can't seem to figure out how to unzip in TWRP....
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You can mount the partitions in recovery though, so you should still be able to see it when connected to PC then you can just copy it over that way.
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jshamlet said:
Depending on why you are wanting to return to stock, you might consider that the Developer Edition phone is the same model as the AT&T phone - only the CID are different (MID is the same). I'm an AT&T customer and I've been running the Developer Edition software since about day 3 (I waited to make sure the phone was okay) and I have had zero problems with it. The only thing I sorta miss is Visual Voicemail, but otherwise I've been happier than a clam.
You do have to S-off to switch the CID if you want OTA updates, but a nandroid backup would probably work fine as well.
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Yeah, I would have suggested that as well but he's S-ON so...
It'll be much better to go Developer Edition, like you said model is the same, shouldn't have problems with radio etc and you'll definitely get updates at a much faster rate than sticking with AT&T. Seems they still use the Telegram to push OTA's which is why 4.4.4 is months behind.

BerndM14 said:
You can mount the partitions in recovery though, so you should still be able to see it when connected to PC then you can just copy it over that way.
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Which partition would I mount? It only lets me mount Data, System, and one other thing but none of those make it discoverable in my computer. I just reflashed the ROM and am hoping it doesn't crash before I finish copying the file *fingers crossed*
I would have liked to S-OFF if possible but not sure anymore about that seeing how the only way is through sunshine :c

Back to stock thanks so much !

BerndM14 said:
Seems they still use the Telegram to push OTA's which is why 4.4.4 is months behind.
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Telegram? Are you kidding? Somewhere out there is a pony with a thumbdrive on his back racing towards Taiwan.

Can't get back to stock.
BerndM14 said:
RUUs, OTAs, Stock TWRP Backups, Firmware & More Collection
Grab your CID nandroid from link provided, unpack it into TWRP/Philz backup folder, restore. Flash back stock recovery if you prefer(a MUST if you want to do OTAs)
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Big Boy Marky,
I have a similar problem. I had Insert Coin ROM installed. My Microphone is not working, so I want to send it back because the M8 is still under warranty. I flashed with the stock RUU, but the bootloader had re-locked. I unlocked bootloader again to root the phone in order to get the bootloader back to "Locked State." While rooting I crashed into a wall while installing superuser and I can't get binaries installed in order to be rooted. I have a HTC one M8 At&T Harmon Kardon Edition. Anything I can do to get it back to factory stock?
Thanks,
Teknokill

[Q] OTA update failed

Hi,
This morning, I received the OTA update for Android L. I downloaded it but when I tried to install it, at about 2/3 minutes after it started, the little "!" icon turned red and my phone restarted. I tried an other time and it failed again..
A couple of months ago, I've installed on my device the Stock ROM (odexed version) and the Stock Recovery for Android 4.4.2 (for the HTC One M8, obviously). Everything went well. Then, I was able to update to 4.4.3 and 4.4.4 thanks to the OTA updates without any issues.
How can I install this new OTA update ?
For your information, on my bootloader, I can read "Software status: Modified", "Relocked" and "S-OFF". My CID is 11111111.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks

I've got the same problem! Any help/guidance would be appreaciated.

It is same to me too .Just tried for second time and update was failed !

Same problem. I've just relocked the bootloader and return to S-On -> Same problem

I'm also having this problem, S-Off'd but stock firmware.

I'm also having this problem, i have s-on, and stock recovery, bootloader status modified.

You all guys have a modified system or firmware, thats the reason why you have Modified in bootloader.
Download the 4.16.401.10 RUU or 3.28.401.9 Nandroid.. Then flash 3.28.401.9 stock firmware and get your OTA.
btw @mosk59 the biggest mistake you did is going back to S-ON.. i would never do that.

SoLdieR9312 said:
You all guys have a modified system or firmware, thats the reason why you have Modified in bootloader.
Download the 4.16.401.10 RUU or 3.28.401.9 Nandroid.. Then flash 3.28.401.9 stock firmware and get your OTA.
btw @mosk59 the biggest mistake you did is going back to S-ON.. i would never do that.
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Thx

SoLdieR9312 said:
You all guys have a modified system or firmware, thats the reason why you have Modified in bootloader.
Download the 4.16.401.10 RUU or 3.28.401.9 Nandroid.. Then flash 3.28.401.9 stock firmware and get your OTA.
btw @mosk59 the biggest mistake you did is going back to S-ON.. i would never do that.
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My system / firmware is pure stock. When I am in bootloader it says "Software Status: Official" - I am S-off, and I had cid: 11111111, just changed to HTC__Y13 and tried again, same result

SoLdieR9312 said:
You all guys have a modified system or firmware, thats the reason why you have Modified in bootloader.
Download the 4.16.401.10 RUU or 3.28.401.9 Nandroid.. Then flash 3.28.401.9 stock firmware and get your OTA.
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Why then i got 4.4.4 when i was in 4.4.2 after installing stock recovery. Can i flash Lollipop RUU in this state i am right now? Or should i do anything else at first?

StuMcBill said:
My system / firmware is pure stock. When I am in bootloader it says "Software Status: Official" - I am S-off, and I had cid: 11111111, just changed to HTC__Y13 and tried again, same result
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Yeah, modified system files, what error do the recovery give you?
leart369 said:
Why then i got 4.4.4 when i was in 4.4.2 after installing stock recovery. Can i flash Lollipop RUU in this state i am right now? Or should i do anything else at first?
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Yeah, better you flash the 4.16.401.10 RUU.. then you get all stuff updated and it's secure.

SoLdieR9312 said:
Yeah, better you flash the 4.16.401.10 RUU.. then you get all stuff updated and it's secure.
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I will lose all my data right? Just to be prepared

SoLdieR9312 said:
Yeah, modified system files, what error do the recovery give you?
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It doesn't give an error, it just shows a red exclamation mark in a Triangle.
I'm pretty sure I don't have any modified system files.
Is there anyway I can flash the files you are quoting and still keep my apps and data?

leart369 said:
I will lose all my data right? Just to be prepared
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Yeah, you will loose all data on internal storage.
StuMcBill said:
It doesn't give an error, it just shows a red exclamation mark in a Triangle.
I'm pretty sure I don't have any modified system files.
Is there anyway I can flash the files you are quoting and still keep my apps and data?
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Not that i know..

SoLdieR9312 said:
Yeah, you will loose all data on internal storage.
Not that i know..
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Ok, so what exact file should I install to allow me to get the lollipop OTA?

StuMcBill said:
Ok, so what exact file should I install to allow me to get the lollipop OTA?
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I already said it about 5 times, 4.16.401.10 RUU.. file can be found in this thread.
But i'm sure you won't find it anyway, so download it here

SoLdieR9312 said:
I already said it about 5 times, 4.16.401.10 RUU.. file can be found in this thread.
But i'm sure you won't find it anyway, so download it here
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It won't be a problem that i have s-on right? Just in case that maybe it might be a problem, because i'm not really a fan of modifications but i got my phone like that.
Sent from my HTC One_M8

SoLdieR9312 said:
I already said it about 5 times, 4.16.401.10 RUU.. file can be found in this thread.
But i'm sure you won't find it anyway, so download it here
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Cool cheers, so how do I install this, put it on my SD card renamed 0P6BIMG.zip?

i'm having the same issue :crying:
the error i get is ( /system/bin/debuggerd has unexpected contents )
can anyone please uploads debuggerd file from that directory so i can replace mine

People should learn to make a full stock backup so they don't run into these situations.....it's the basic to start with !

Go back to stock ROM with S-ON

Title says all. I want to back to stock so I can get latest firmware. I am S-ON, and don't plan on paying $25 to get S-OFF. I did search, but any results were for S-OFF or had dead links.

Malvarose said:
Title says all. I want to back to stock so I can get latest firmware. I am S-ON, and don't plan on paying $25 to get S-OFF. I did search, but any results were for S-OFF or had dead links.
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If you unlocked bootloader/installed TWRP the right way then you will have a stock System image backup. If you don't then get one here. This can be restored in recovery after mounting system read-only, see this post. You will then also need to restore stock recovery to be able to take an OTA, details in the same post.
This stuff is all out there if you search and read!

Malvarose said:
Title says all. I want to back to stock so I can get latest firmware. I am S-ON, and don't plan on paying $25 to get S-OFF. I did search, but any results were for S-OFF or had dead links.
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Might need to SOFF so that way u can RUU and go back to full stock, the take an OTA.

Malvarose said:
Title says all. I want to back to stock so I can get latest firmware. I am S-ON, and don't plan on paying $25 to get S-OFF. I did search, but any results were for S-OFF or had dead links.
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aer0zer0 said:
Might need to SOFF so that way u can RUU and go back to full stock, the take an OTA.
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No Need to S-Off to return to stock, Im S-On and went about it this way. Go to this link HERE and start at step 5 to get back to stock. Then for the firmware updates go to his link HERE and download the the ruu that you would need (for me it was att's offical 2.11). Then connect your phone to a pc, make sure you enable USB Debugging and give permission for the pc to connect. Run the RUU, this will upgrade you to the newest firmware and stock rom. It will remove your recovery and root so you will have the go threw the steps to flash TWRP or what ever recovery (start at step 1 at the first link posted) and then re-root your phone. After that your all good

Are all the M9 recoveries the same? The only RUU my carrier (Telus) has is on 1.32, and the links provided were AT&T's. I'm currently S-ON.

Snookers said:
Are all the M9 recoveries the same? The only RUU my carrier (Telus) has is on 1.32, and the links provided were AT&T's. I'm currently S-ON.
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No they're not all the same. There's always a recovery in the the OTA update, so you can extract it from there on the next update if you can wait.
Sent from my HTC One M9 using Tapatalk

Snookers said:
Are all the M9 recoveries the same? The only RUU my carrier (Telus) has is on 1.32, and the links provided were AT&T's. I'm currently S-ON.
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you could look at Android Ruu to see if they have your carriers ruu listed, my bad on the att links, the Windroid Tool at This Link Here might be able to help you find other ruus and recoveries, Ive used this tool a lot, but not sure if it fully supports your M9 version. Hope this helps you some.