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I have just rooted my desire and flashed it with the VillainRom....
My questions are: I have enabled app2SD on most apps and thats great, but when I look at my internal memory through DiskUsage, It says I only have 157mb (Data) of space and thats taken up by the apps + system data that wont budge (adobe air etc)... Would taking off Stock apps increase this 157mb or would they too be stored in applications?
And why is there only 157mb available internal when you get 500mb?
Do widgets need to be kept on internal to stop them disappearing?
Sorry if my questions are obvious but I literally only looked into rooting a week ago so I am a proper noob!!
I also have the updating icon on virtually constantly.... is it a prob with the Rom or can this be fixed ?!
first of all do you have an ext partition? apps2sd wont work without one? also apps2sd only puts /data/app/ and the dalvik cache on your sd card, the /data/data directory remains on the device, thats why adobe air ect takes up so much space, removing stock apps wont free up any space as they are stored on the system partition, the desire dosent have 500mb of internal storage who told you that it might have 500mb of rom but thats a diff question.
AndroHero said:
first of all do you have an ext partition? apps2sd wont work without one? also apps2sd only puts /data/app/ and the dalvik cache on your sd card, the /data/data directory remains on the device, thats why adobe air ect takes up so much space, removing stock apps wont free up any space as they are stored on the system partition, the desire dosent have 500mb of internal storage who told you that it might have 500mb of rom but thats a diff question.
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Ok ignore the 500mb i don't know where i got that from lol!!! The rom has apps2sd enabled I thought thats all I needed? I am still having trouble fitting on all my apps !!
If I was to put a new rom on there can I just delete the zip after and delete the folder containing the old rom? Is titanium sufficient to use as back up if I was to put on a new rom ?! ---- Forget that just done nandroid backup just to be safe! Is the back up stored in clockworkmod?
ali_smooth said:
Ok ignore the 500mb i don't know where i got that from lol!!! The rom has apps2sd enabled I thought thats all I needed? I am still having trouble fitting on all my apps !!
If I was to put a new rom on there can I just delete the zip after and delete the folder containing the old rom? Is titanium sufficient to use as back up if I was to put on a new rom ?! ---- Forget that just done nandroid backup just to be safe! Is the back up stored in clockworkmod?
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if you pressing the move to sd option, in manage applications, thats not apps2sd , thats just the crappy move to sd option on froyo..... you need to partition your sd card with an ext 2/3/4 partition to enjoy apps2sd+ i assume the nandroid backup image is stored on you sd card .....
Nandroid backup stored on SD?? Is it under backup in the rom file or is it actually called nandroid?? I backed up through recovery ...
Man i need to do some reading lol.. thanks for helping... ill partition through rom manager once i know if I've backed up properly!!
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ali_smooth said:
Nandroid backup stored on SD?? Is it under backup in the rom file or is it actually called nandroid?? I backed up through recovery ...
Man i need to do some reading lol.. thanks for helping... ill partition through rom manager once i know if I've backed up properly!!
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ive never used a nandroid or any other kind of backup in my life lol i really should learn tho because its a pain setting up my rom everytime i flash
Your backups are stored under sdcard/clockworkmod/backup
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Please can you confirm me if after the Rom Manager patition tool I should have 3,18gb of FAT32 or more?
I've done 0mb for the swap and 512bmb for the EXT
Am I missing some space?
Many thanks
Best regards
3.1 + .5 is close to right. Might be a bit low but not by more then 100 MB
Disk drives never have the right capacity because of formatting and companies use 1000 MB = 1 GB when it should be 1024
Thanks
I'm asking this beacause before I redid the partitions (the sd was already partitioned) with rom manager, I crearly remember that the fat32 was something like 3.66.
Is there any way or program to get the lost space back?
Sir.Aurox said:
Thanks
I'm asking this beacause before I redid the partitions (the sd was already partitioned) with rom manager, I crearly remember that the fat32 was something like 3.66.
Is there any way or program to get the lost space back?
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you havent lost any space, as the previous poster said, with a 4gig sd card, you dont get 4gig of useable space. because of the way its formatted and the block sizes you would probably get about 3.6 - 3.7gb of space on the card.....
Thanks you too mate for the help
One last noobish question
How can I install apps on the EXT partition ?
Sir.Aurox said:
Thanks you too mate for the help
One last noobish question
How can I install apps on the EXT partition ?
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if your using a rom with apps2sd and have an ext partiton on your card, apps will automatically be installed to /system/sd/app/ (the ext partiton) so you dont need to do anything
Many thanks mate for the help
I'm currently on Leedroid 2.2d
Is there a free program to keep an eye on this partition free space ?
Leedroid have a2sd so you should be fine and "quick system info" is a great app for that purpose.
hey guys i wanna fix my low on space error and for that i would have to make a partition on my sd card
i just wanna know if its possible to make it from recovery and how so?
thanks
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JunaidZaka said:
hey guys i wanna fix my low on space error and for that i would have to make a partition on my sd card
i just wanna know if its possible to make it from recovery and how so?
thanks
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In CWM or PX recovery there is option to make partition on sd card. Search it, perhaps it is in advenced options
Before making a partition: Copy all files from you sd-card to your computer, then partition the sdcard, after partition, restore all the files again
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Before making a partition: Copy all files from you sd-card to your computer, then partition the sdcard, after partition, restore all the files again
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Oh, yeah, i forget to write this. Making partitions via recovery deletes all your files from sd-card. About two weeks ago I did it -,-
But making partition via PC is safy
After creating a partition on your sdcard download link2sd from market and create ext4 partition and restart your device
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so hoe much size do i have to choose for the partition
and after itd partitioned
what should i do yo transfer apps to sd?
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JunaidZaka said:
so hoe much size do i have to choose for the partition
and after itd partitioned
what should i do yo transfer apps to sd?
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For me 256 MB is fine. Then use S2E, for example, to move system apps on sd-card
wojtek267 said:
For me 256 MB is fine. Then use S2E, for example, to move system apps on sd-card
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No, dalvik cache and user apps are better in my opinion
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is 512 mb fine ?
and how to configure A2SD
just partition and then move apps to sd ?
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It's better to make partition size not more than by 10% of your sd-card.
Like if you have 8gb sd-card then you should make around 750-780mb to be on safe side
Hello. I am new to this forum. I am curious how many people really use a swap partition and what is the method of of using swap in htc wildire s?
I am well aware of Linux OS and understand the need of swap but in case of android does it really improves something?
Hi.I will try to explain you what i know: :laugh:
-swap partition is needed to work some ROM's,combinated with ext partitions.
-you can create swap partition with MiniToolWizard
-in same time,you can create with CWM recovery.
If you need,i will give you a link for MiniTool.
If i helped you,please click "Thank's" button.Have a nice day !!
Does android automatically detect SWAP Partition on SD Card and utilize it automatically?
Yes(i think).
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does it? i thought the kernel had to had zram enabeled to allow swap use? i might be wrong though..
Most roms auto-detect, but I'd recommend checking with the devs before partitioning your sd card.
Also, unless you have a class 6 or upwards, it won't really do any good.
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Most roms auto-detect, but I'd recommend checking with the devs before partitioning your sd card.
Also, unless you have a class 6 or upwards, it won't really do any good.
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Where did u find that info?? Is class 4 mmc that bad????:s
never use a swap partition on any android phones. It does no good. The swap partition are made with your sd card which is more than 10 times slower than your internal memory. When an app is loaded or is sent to swap partition cache memory, it takes time to copy or load the files.
Android already has a system for moving unused apps to cache memory. So, let android do its job.
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never use a swap partition on any android phones. It does no good. The swap partition are made with your sd card which is more than 10 times slower than your internal memory. When an app is loaded or is sent to swap partition cache memory, it takes time to copy or load the files.
Android already has a system for moving unused apps to cache memory. So, let android do its job.
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Well thats some info for me thanks a lot.
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never use a swap partition on any android phones. It does no good. The swap partition are made with your sd card which is more than 10 times slower than your internal memory. When an app is loaded or is sent to swap partition cache memory, it takes time to copy or load the files.
Android already has a system for moving unused apps to cache memory. So, let android do its job.
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This can make phone slower? Just that ?
How can i know if the swap partition is enable ?(i don't know if i have a swapt partition,i forgot that)
And if i have,all i need is to delete this ,just that ?Or i need to reinstall the rom ?
edu_stoicescu said:
This can make phone slower? Just that ?
How can i know if the swap partition is enable ?(i don't know if i have a swapt partition,i forgot that)
And if i have,all i need is to delete this ,just that ?Or i need to reinstall the rom ?
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Just ignore his comment. We need Linux swap. Without it phone gets laggy. I tested it myself.
Download minitool partition wizard home edition. Its free Google it. After installing it and insert ur sdcard via card reader and run the program.it will show ur partitions.
You don't need to uninstall ur system. Just make nandroid backup using recovery. Re format only the ext and swap partition. Based on wat ext u had earlier. All partitions should be primary.
Then from advance recovery restore sd-ext.
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@Edu: just search xda for details of swap partition. There have been number of discussions regarding it and all have ended up denying the use of swap partition. These have been comfirmed by much experienced devs, who have been cooking roms for more than 3 years. But still if you dont believe, i would recommend you to google a little and then make the decision.
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@Edu: just search xda for details of swap partition. There have been number of discussions regarding it and all have ended up denying the use of swap partition. These have been comfirmed by much experienced devs, who have been cooking roms for more than 3 years. But still if you dont believe, i would recommend you to google a little and then make the decision.
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But sir without it the phone gets very laggy. Means every games run slower. The antutu gpu score gets lowered.
U can easily get 645-630 3D with swap. But without it u can't cross 615. That may seem as little gain but for games it becomes a big issue.
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Sorry couldn't upload the pics as modify isnt supporting upload of pic.
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Maybe that is because the extra cache memory are directly transferred to swap memory. Games which require huge cache memory can be of profit. thanks for the screens btw
@op : just take nand back up and back up your sd card. Try the swap partition thing and if it is beneficial, go ahead or else you know what to do
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Hi, i'm new here so i'ld really appreciate anyone who can really help me on this:
I created a swap partition(256mb) on my sd card for my HTC wfs. now after making series of research on swap partition, i found out that swap parttion is necessarily not needed and even if i av to use the 256mb i allocated is too much. Now i need help on how to delete the swap partition without losing my DATA ON MY SDCARD. PLEASE ANYONE WITH THE RIGHT HELP
lakesYde said:
Hi, i'm new here so i'ld really appreciate anyone who can really help me on this:
I created a swap partition(256mb) on my sd card for my HTC wfs. now after making series of research on swap partition, i found out that swap parttion is necessarily not needed and even if i av to use the 256mb i allocated is too much. Now i need help on how to delete the swap partition without losing my DATA ON MY SDCARD. PLEASE ANYONE WITH THE RIGHT HELP
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that's kinda not possible i guess..with mini partition tool you can delete swap or ext3 partition and create ext4 visa versa..but if you wanted only fat32 it isn't possible.
either if you have ext3 or ext4..open mini partiiton tool..delete swap and delete ext3 or ext4(which one you have)
and create partition(ext3 or ext4) from remaining free space...in this your fat32 will be unchanged..
but obviously ext3/4 will be deleted..bt its okay to hv swap partition..256 MB hasn't big space..the whole concept of swap derived frm link2sd i guess..latest int2ext scripts dont need swap..but int2extv2+ need.
lakesYde said:
Hi, i'm new here so i'ld really appreciate anyone who can really help me on this:
I created a swap partition(256mb) on my sd card for my HTC wfs. now after making series of research on swap partition, i found out that swap parttion is necessarily not needed and even if i av to use the 256mb i allocated is too much. Now i need help on how to delete the swap partition without losing my DATA ON MY SDCARD. PLEASE ANYONE WITH THE RIGHT HELP
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Copy all of your data to your pc, then format the card via clockworkmod recovery. It should remove the partition. If not you can try gparted for linux or easeus partition master for windows pal.
If your trying to keep your ext partition but without a swap then copy your data to the pc, then select partition sdcard from clockworkmod recovery. Just don't select a swap and you will be fine
Oh, and make a nandroid backup to back up whats on your ext partition
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crossfire77 said:
that's kinda not possible i guess..with mini partition tool you can delete swap or ext3 partition and create ext4 visa versa..but if you wanted only fat32 it isn't possible.
either if you have ext3 or ext4..open mini partiiton tool..delete swap and delete ext3 or ext4(which one you have)
and create partition(ext3 or ext4) from remaining free space...in this your fat32 will be unchanged..
but obviously ext3/4 will be deleted..bt its okay to hv swap partition..256 MB hasn't big space..the whole concept of swap derived frm link2sd i guess..latest int2ext scripts dont need swap..but int2extv2+ need.
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thanks dude really appreciate but going by what you said i have ext3 and already used a2sd that means if i delete ext3 definately i'll lose my data. that is what i'm trying to avoid but since you said my 256mb aint much a big deal, i think i wld leave it then.
Thanks a bunch.
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Copy all of your data to your pc, then format the card via clockworkmod recovery. It should remove the partition. If not you can try gparted for linux or easeus partition master for windows pal.
If your trying to keep your ext partition but without a swap then copy your data to the pc, then select partition sdcard from clockworkmod recovery. Just don't select a swap and you will be fine
Oh, and make a nandroid backup to back up whats on your ext partition
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obviously i will lose my data......thanks anyway.
I've read on here that people are able to install lots of apps without clogging their memory on their phone, placing all their info on their sd cards. can someone help me do that? I've already have app2card and other apps to clear up memory but things still start to take up the phone memory.
I've done the search and can't figure this one out. i'm using the atomic rom and I believe my phone is rooted. thank you.
legacygt777 said:
I've read on here that people are able to install lots of apps without clogging their memory on their phone, placing all their info on their sd cards. can someone help me do that? I've already have app2card and other apps to clear up memory but things still start to take up the phone memory.
I've done the search and can't figure this one out. i'm using the atomic rom and I believe my phone is rooted. thank you.
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Well, even if apps is moved to sd, their odex files will still occupy space in dalvik-cache. If you have many apps, internal space will surely be low.
I'm using DiskUsage app to see what is taking space in internal memory.
Here is some hints from me that can help you with internal memory problems:
-clear your apps cashe and data from time to time (obviously, you can do that for not so important apps, but not for games, because you will loose your progress)
-Most GB roms are not big in term of size, so there are lot of space left in /system (sometimes even more then 100MB). You can install some of your apps to system (move them from /data/app to /system/app).
-Reodex your rom. You'll get 30MB+ if you reodex just framework folder, even more if you reodex all system apps. (so all odex files will be in system partition, not in dalvik-cache (data partition)
-Finaly, you can unlock your bootloader and flash custom kernels (lupus or turbo kernel) that can increase you data partition to 610MB
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Well, even if apps is moved to sd, their odex files will still occupy space in dalvik-cache. If you have many apps, internal space will surely be low.
I'm using DiskUsage app to see what is taking space in internal memory.
Here is some hints from me that can help you with internal memory problems:
-clear your apps cashe and data from time to time (obviously, you can do that for not so important apps, but not for games, because you will loose your progress)
-Most GB roms are not big in term of size, so there are lot of space left in /system (sometimes even more then 100MB). You can install some of your apps to system (move them from /data/app to /system/app).
-Reodex your rom. You'll get 30MB+ if you reodex just framework folder, even more if you reodex all system apps. (so all odex files will be in system partition, not in dalvik-cache (data partition)
-Finaly, you can unlock your bootloader and flash custom kernels (lupus or turbo kernel) that can increase you data partition to 610MB
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thanks! i'm really happy with my atomic 7 gb rom so I don't think I will flash a new one (at the moment). I have abou 120mb left in my internal memory....is that pretty good? will reodexing your rom slow down the system?
appreciate the feedback.
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thanks! i'm really happy with my atomic 7 gb rom so I don't think I will flash a new one (at the moment). I have abou 120mb left in my internal memory....is that pretty good? will reodexing your rom slow down the system?
appreciate the feedback.
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120MB is OK. Actually, it's all ok untill first thing you want to install fail due low space. Then you can think of things posted above.
No, reodexing rom won't slow your phone.
I think your referring to Link2sd. I have about 300 games/apps installed and still have loads of space. Look up link2sd in the market and follow the instructions. You need to format your sdcard and use minitool partition to make am ext2 or ext3 or ext4. I use ext2 foe the partition. Make it around 1-2gb in size. I made mine 3gb. The rest is fat32 format for your sdcard. When you install links it will ask what ext type it is. 2,3,4 etc. Select the format and it will install the script them reboot from that point all installed apps will be linked to that partition. Freeing up a lot of space. Like instead of a few megabytes of storage its more like a couple kilobytes as its just a file telling your phone where to look foe the application or game on your ext partition.
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I think your referring to Link2sd. I have about 300 games/apps installed and still have loads of space. Look up link2sd in the market and follow the instructions. You need to format your sdcard and use minitool partition to make am ext2 or ext3 or ext4. I use ext2 foe the partition. Make it around 1-2gb in size. I made mine 3gb. The rest is fat32 format for your sdcard. When you install links it will ask what ext type it is. 2,3,4 etc. Select the format and it will install the script them reboot from that point all installed apps will be linked to that partition. Freeing up a lot of space. Like instead of a few megabytes of storage its more like a couple kilobytes as its just a file telling your phone where to look foe the application or game on your ext partition.
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1)just downloaded link2 sd
2)ok baby steps here....how do I format card?
3)"use minitool partition to make am ext2 or ext3 or ext4" - how do I do this? is that an app?
thanks man....much appreciated.
legacygt777 said:
1)just downloaded link2 sd
2)ok baby steps here....how do I format card?
3)"use minitool partition to make am ext2 or ext3 or ext4" - how do I do this? is that an app?
thanks man....much appreciated.
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First, make a backup of your sd card to PC.
Minitool is program for PC. Tutorial how to use it (with download links) is at http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/SD_card_partitioning
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I think your referring to Link2sd. I have about 300 games/apps installed and still have loads of space. Look up link2sd in the market and follow the instructions. You need to format your sdcard and use minitool partition to make am ext2 or ext3 or ext4. I use ext2 foe the partition. Make it around 1-2gb in size. I made mine 3gb. The rest is fat32 format for your sdcard. When you install links it will ask what ext type it is. 2,3,4 etc. Select the format and it will install the script them reboot from that point all installed apps will be linked to that partition. Freeing up a lot of space. Like instead of a few megabytes of storage its more like a couple kilobytes as its just a file telling your phone where to look foe the application or game on your ext partition.
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so do I partition (say ext2) first? and make it 3g. then I format the rest of the space fat32?
sorry if this is so basic.
legacygt777 said:
so do I partition (say ext2) first? and make it 3g. then I format the rest of the space fat32?
sorry if this is so basic.
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also is the ext2 my primary?
the rest of it "logical"?
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