I started with iPhone many moons ago, then transitioned to Android / Samsung back around the S3 days. Been with Sammy ever since, but they are starting to get like Apple in that they are VERY unfriendly to the mod community and they go to great lengths to stop it. They are also killing their phones with Bloatware.
I am toying with going to either the M8 or M9 with my next upgrade (coming from Galaxy S5). Does HTC tend to have a major security war with their users or are they a little more lax? Does rooting void their warranty like it does with Sammy?
Thanks in advance.
~Vol
Vol4Ever said:
I started with iPhone many moons ago, then transitioned to Android / Samsung back around the S3 days. Been with Sammy ever since, but they are starting to get like Apple in that they are VERY unfriendly to the mod community and they go to great lengths to stop it. They are also killing their phones with Bloatware.
I am toying with going to either the M8 or M9 with my next upgrade (coming from Galaxy S5). Does HTC tend to have a major security war with their users or are they a little more lax? Does rooting void their warranty like it does with Sammy?
Thanks in advance.
~Vol
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Get the HTC M9. The M8 is really good, but the M9 fixes just about all of the M8 shortcomings. For unlocking and rooting, HTC is really simple and HTC facilitates the process. You just create an account on htcdev.com and submit a request for an unlock token. A few minutes later HTC sends you an email with the unlock token. Once you have that, you connect your phone to your computer and unlock but using fastboot commands. Once unlocked, you can install a custom recovery, again using fastboot commands, then just enter custom recovery (TWRP), go to the twrp reboot menu and select reboot, then twrp will say hey, you're not rooted, do you want to flash SuperSU and you swipe to flash it. Phone will boot into OS, you open the SuperSU apk and follow some screen prompts and one more reboot and your good to go.
That's it.
Supposedly, simply unlocking no longer voids your warranty, but if it appears that the phone broke because of running a custom rom (like, it overheated and the insides melted), they likely will not void the warranty.
Another reason you should get the M9...in the states, we get uh oh protection. So...you can do anything to your phone...drop it in the toilet, run over it with the car, whatever, and they will replace it, for free, for 1 year (including free overnight shipping of the new phone to you, then you send the broken one back)...so, you really don't need to put this beautiful phone in a case until either the year is up, or you get your second one. Also, if you don't use the uh oh protection, HTC gives you $100 off your next HTC phone. It's a pretty sweet deal.
I agree with the above post. My m9 has been awesome! I recently came from an s3 that had a locked bootloader thanks to Verizon and so I got the dev edition. So far I have flash at least 4 different firmwares and have tried almost every rom that's available. It's extremely easy to do once you get s-off. It will be a little bit of a learning curve so make sure to read the instructions carefully and read down the threads in order to anticipate anything that may go wrong.
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I started with iPhone many moons ago, then transitioned to Android / Samsung back around the S3 days. Been with Sammy ever since, but they are starting to get like Apple in that they are VERY unfriendly to the mod community and they go to great lengths to stop it. They are also killing their phones with Bloatware.
I am toying with going to either the M8 or M9 with my next upgrade (coming from Galaxy S5). Does HTC tend to have a major security war with their users or are they a little more lax? Does rooting void their warranty like it does with Sammy?
Thanks in advance.
~Vol
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If you come from flashing Sammy roms like I did, then I suggest you think really carefully before buying the M9. I dont hate my M9 as much as when I first bought it, but in hindsight I perhaps should have stuck with sammy. Flashing custom roms and updating firmware on Sammy is easy compared with htc M9 , and the M9 threads are alot more 'quiet' then Sammy S4 , S5 or note4 threads . Also you will find ALOT of conflicting/confusing instructions for M9, especially if you come from Sammy roms.
Here are some other posts worth reading before you decide buy M9 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=60244822
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=60245457
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=61298935
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=60238311
With htc you have worry about S-on S-off then CID and supercid, then lock bootloader to run RUU or unlock to run 0PAIMG.zip files (which they call RUUs but they are different to RUU.exe files of course, but still called RUUs), must use smaller than 32Gb FAT32 sd card to update your firmware using sd card method, use htc_fastboot or fastboot etc etc. So confusing if you are from Sammy.
Then if someone, not new to flashing, asks a question and they get "search its been answered many times!' When actually the instructions can sometimes be slightly different from one thread to another , and some threads , not all, simply do not explain clearly why you need to do this or that, and/or give conflicting or incomplete instructions. You will have much less headache with Sammy devices. Also M9 u need to go back to stock to get an OTAs (if you are S-on). So all I am saying is read the M9 threads first, and get a feel if you want to take the dive. But if you want a challenge after (easy) customizing, Sammy roms, then M9 is definitely a good choice. Also there is NO cyanogen for M9 at the moment. But seems there some gr8 roms like Viper, Maximus, Insertcoin and Android Revolution..(.but you gotta make sure your M9s firmware MATCHES the roms firmware before even thinking about flashing them.) Just my two cents worth.
It is not really that hard when you know what you are doing. It is gonna be different with each device. You are just accustomed to doing it a certain way. It is always best to follow the golden rule here in XDA. Search first, read read read, and then ask questions. You also have to remember the M9 is a 64 bit phone, so there will be new challenges.
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It is not really that hard when you know what you are doing. It is gonna be different with each device. You are just accustomed to doing it a certain way. It is always best to follow the golden rule here in XDA. Search first, read read read, and then ask questions. You also have to remember the M9 is a 64 bit phone, so there will be new challenges.
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sure. of course its not rocket science. Ya Everyone knows "Search first, read read read, and then ask questions" but the problem is conflicting info. and Just that the Sammy threads' instructions IMO generally were ALOT clearer and less conflicting and confusing info. and its not just me, I noticed alot of other users had noted same experience in the HTC M9 threads. Its no wonder people keep asking same questions still. IMO If the OP's of alot of the threads were "clearer" and more" complete" in their first instructions, I am sure we would have alot less people in confusion asking things like "help me/ hold my hand to restore to stock/I followed instructions but got error still why". And the biggest problem is the fact that the M9 was a disaster for htc. so as a result, the M9 threads are much more quiet, fewer users, and less active than Sammy threads. My only hope is with the second-hand market forming in the next 6 months, that the M9 threads will pick up, hence more custom roms and updates, when people buy it , when its cheaper.
Samsung is a much bigger and more known company. It's phone sales are huge compared to HTC and that will relate to much more active forums. I understand what you are saying, but like I said every device will be different. When I had my Nexus 4, rooting and flashing roms was a piece.of cake. I would just be careful about over complaining. Nobody here is obligated to help anyone. Be nice and someone will eventually come along with the needed help.
Ive recently done the same. been with sammy for about 4 years, now ive picked the HTC... why? Theyre much more in touch with their users demands. Sure the processes for unlocking / rooting / s-off are a lot different and require you to do some work, but once you get to grips with it it's easy enough and makes you feel more in touch with those sort of processes on your phone.
Also to address the issue mentioned above, the sammy s4 etc have been out a lot longer than the m9 which has only been out a few months so of course it will be quiter in here to start with. *fingers crossed* some more devs will pop up and fill our lives with joy.
The only thing i'm worried about with my recent upgrade to htc m9(literally a few days ago) is that within the year it is going to be outdated by a new device but such is life when you buy in to a 2 year contract lol.
Have faith.
As mentioned above also, at first I was quite daunted by the processes of rooting etc for the HTC and was unsure i'd made the right choice. I considered falling back to sammy but even after this last couple of days i've thought to myself I have made the right choice.
Thanks for all the helpful comments. I am a voracious reader, and I would never attempt to do any type of upgrade without quite a bit of research first. I pretty much have my mind made up on the M9, but AT&T has jacked up their upgrade process. This is a company phone & we are on a legacy plan. Until my boss & I get all that worked out with AT&T, I'll be using my trusty S5. AT&T really ticked me off yesterday when I was in the store, so much that we might even look at an alternate carrier.
Thanks again for the help.
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Thanks for all the helpful comments. I am a voracious reader, and I would never attempt to do any type of upgrade without quite a bit of research first. I pretty much have my mind made up on the M9, but AT&T has jacked up their upgrade process. This is a company phone & we are on a legacy plan. Until my boss & I get all that worked out with AT&T, I'll be using my trusty S5. AT&T really ticked me off yesterday when I was in the store, so much that we might even look at an alternate carrier.
Thanks again for the help.
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Unsolicited advice, if you're going to root and install custom rom and leaked updates, you're better off sticking with a GSM carrier (AT&T or T-Mobile) over Sprint or Verizon. Sprint and Verizon users almost always have to wait for carrier release to get updates. AT&T works with all of the international updates that are released. T-Mobile does too, but they also offer Wi-Fi calling which may not always work with international roms and firmware. just my .02
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Samsung is a much bigger and more known company. It's phone sales are huge compared to HTC and that will relate to much more active forums. I understand what you are saying, but like I said every device will be different. When I had my Nexus 4, rooting and flashing roms was a piece.of cake. I would just be careful about over complaining. Nobody here is obligated to help anyone. Be nice and someone will eventually come along with the needed help.
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You missed the point and Who's over complaining? Obviously no one is obligated to help here or any other thread on xda. My point was if someone wanted to buy an M9 he/she should think carefully before taking the 'dive', and it is a fact the M9 threads are much quieter, right? and did you read the posts the urls I posted above? if you look at the urls i posted previous post you will see alot of other users were confused. I wonder why? They had 'searched and searched' but were still confused, I wonder why?. My question was , why do some threads have to make something so simple sound so complex.? After reading hundreds of post from back to front, I realized that had some posts or more detail/explanation been added to the OP of some threads, quite alot of the confusion could have bee avoided in first place, in M9 threads generally. That was the main difference I observed between sammy threads and M9 threads. I dont hate my M9,but I expected alot more from it. The screen display is lacklustre, some devices have a dead pixel problem, and flashing firmware is a nightmare for some experienced sammy users from what I hv read so far, but yes the sound is excellent on m9 and speed is fast (i know S6 has much higher antutu score but I dont believe those scores completely). but for now I do hope that there will be gradual improvement for M9 as more people get involved when the device becomes cheaper. I Just felt need to point out to any sammy user, think very carefully before you switch to htc M9 , if they want go down the customization route. If you dont want pull your hair out then stick with sammy, but if you are up for a challenge and some headaches in the beginning, definitely go for M9. Because it can only get better.
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You missed the point and Who's over complaining? Obviously no one is obligated to help here or any other thread on xda. My point was if someone wanted to buy an M9 he/she should think carefully before taking the 'dive', and it is a fact the M9 threads are much quieter, right? and did you read the posts the urls I posted above? if you look at the urls i posted previous post you will see alot of other users were confused. I wonder why? They had 'searched and searched' but were still confused, I wonder why?. My question was , why do some threads have to make something so simple sound so complex.? After reading hundreds of post from back to front, I realized that had some posts or more detail/explanation been added to the OP of some threads, quite alot of the confusion could have bee avoided in first place, in M9 threads generally. That was the main difference I observed between sammy threads and M9 threads. I dont hate my M9,but I expected alot more from it. The screen display is lacklustre, some devices have a dead pixel problem, and flashing firmware is a nightmare for some experienced sammy users from what I hv read so far, but yes the sound is excellent on m9 and speed is fast (i know S6 has much higher antutu score but I dont believe those scores completely). but for now I do hope that there will be gradual improvement for M9 as more people get involved when the device becomes cheaper. I Just felt need to point out to any sammy user, think very carefully before you switch to htc M9 , if they want go down the customization route. If you dont want pull your hair out then stick with sammy, but if you are up for a challenge and some headaches in the beginning, definitely go for M9. Because it can only get better.
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I kind of understand what you're saying, but I think the reason a lot of advice seems contradictory is because little variables like S-off/on, region, carrier, GSM/CDMA, etc make a difference in the steps you have to take. Also, in a lot of those posts you linked to they were trying to accomplish different things. For example, many people want to upgrade firmware without being S-off and there are several different ways to accomplish this and at the same time it may not be possible at all for that user (because it depends on their carrier/region).
Many of us who do like to help people find that it's like pulling teeth sometimes to get enough information to even offer a suggestion to people. It really shouldn't be that hard to say 1) exactly what you'd like to accomplish and 2) exactly what steps you've already taken. Finally, and I highly doubt this is unique to the M9 forum, but it's extremely frustrating when either someone just asked the same question a few posts back, or the answer is clearly spelled out in the op.
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I kind of understand what you're saying, but I think the reason a lot of advice seems contradictory is because little variables like S-off/on, region, carrier, GSM/CDMA, etc make a difference in the steps you have to take. Also, in a lot of those posts you linked to they were trying to accomplish different things. For example, many people want to upgrade firmware without being S-off and there are several different ways to accomplish this and at the same time it may not be possible at all for that user (because it depends on their carrier/region).
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I think you hit the nail on the head with this. Wondering Perhaps the M9 threads should be divided into sections for this or that carrier 'only'? Eg Verizon users only , international users only etc ..would it work? It might repeat some instructions , but it would make it more clear for people and save alot of the confusion or contradictions we see? Ie this is your device and you can do this and you cant do this, and this way is better than that way because you are xxx carrier, and this is the reason. I am just thinking especially of the new M9 users to come. Is there a way to Make it simple and clear. As you and others have said, its not difficult once you know how. And at same time , we can try to not sounding over complicated or confusing to them....some guys are really very helpful in the M9 threads, as example , after I got a reply I thought, this is so simple(!), why was it made to sound so complicated in first place? Or I thought why didnt someone put that in the OP? Would have saved alot of people alot of time. But I guess M9 is new, threads are relatively new, I get that , and I am sure we will see more and more interest in M9 , and hence more activity in the threads, as it picks up momentum...
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I think you hit the nail on the head with this. Wondering Perhaps the M9 threads should be divided into sections for this or that carrier 'only'? Eg Verizon users only , international users only etc ..would it work? It might repeat some instructions , but it would make it more clear for people and save alot of the confusion or contradictions we see? Ie this is your device and you can do this and you cant do this, and this way is better than that way because you are xxx carrier, and this is the reason. I am just thinking especially of the new M9 users to come. Is there a way to Make it simple and clear. As you and others have said, its not difficult once you know how. And at same time , we can try to not sounding over complicated or confusing to them....some guys are really very helpful in the M9 threads, as example , after I got a reply I thought, this is so simple(!), why was it made to sound so complicated in first place? Or I thought why didnt someone put that in the OP? Would have saved alot of people alot of time. But I guess M9 is new, threads are relatively new, I get that , and I am sure we will see more and more interest in M9 , and hence more activity in the threads, as it picks up momentum...
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Is there an International section? And if there are already different sections for different US carriers , I wonder why are all those confused guys asking in the general forum?
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Is there an International section? And if there are already different sections for different US carriers , I wonder why are all those confused guys asking in the general forum?
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Probably because there is more activity here in the unbranded forum. There are differences with how the various branded phones need to be rooted and roms flashed. Not all the instructions here will work unless you properly debrand/convert the phone.
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Probably because there is more activity here in the unbranded forum. There are differences with how the various branded phones need to be rooted and roms flashed. Not all the instructions here will work unless you properly debrand/convert the phone.
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Which explains some of the confusion..
Just curious, once the US users from AT&T or whatever have debranded to say developer WWE europe .401 firmware, how is the modem/radio/baseband after? Reception and wifi no problems at all or do they have to flash their local carrier radio again to get good signal? (I ask because my S4 was on Poland or German firmware i think but it still worked great in Asia).
For me, HTC are the pinnacle of devices when you plan to root, believe me its a walk in the park, not only that but the community is friendlier, larger and the level of development and developers is second to none. Take a look at my SIG to see the phones I've had, don't get me wrong the s5 is a special device and I used it underwater for many hours and I loved it but I've always missed HTC when I've been away from it, even the note 4 wasn't enough to keep me away..
The choice at the end of the day is yours..for me there is no choice, the m9 is by far and away the best device there is right now, not without faults but that just adds to its character.
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Which explains some of the confusion..
Just curious, once the US users from AT&T or whatever have debranded to say developer WWE europe .401 firmware, how is the modem/radio/baseband after? Reception and wifi no problems at all or do they have to flash their local carrier radio again to get good signal? (I ask because my S4 was on Poland or German firmware i think but it still worked great in Asia).
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Some users have reported the need to flash the radio that comes with the stock firmware. I believe it could be location specific. Best thing to do is if works, don't try to fix it.
dladz said:
For me, HTC are the pinnacle of devices when you plan to root, believe me its a walk in the park, not only that but the community is friendlier, larger and the level of development and developers is second to none. Take a look at my SIG to see the phones I've had, don't get me wrong the s5 is a special device and I used it underwater for many hours and I loved it but I've always missed HTC when I've been away from it, even the note 4 wasn't enough to keep me away..
The choice at the end of the day is yours..for me there is no choice, the m9 is by far and away the best device there is right now, not without faults but that just adds to its character.
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I get your point. Mayb alot of us were spoilt with odin and ease of flashing and customizing sammy devices. My S4 was on CM12.1 lollipop 5.1.1 ages ago , and I didnt need do go back to stock to any 'update firmware' at all when i went from previous lollipop to 5.1.1 so when I got my m9 i was like wtf? ( I thought to myself: Why Gotta go back to stock to take update and then all this s-on s-off cid supercid silly stuff. ) LOL. It didnt help that i had to factory reset my phone 6 times in first few days to get everything working. Mayb i was unlucky as i even had the annoying dead pixel problem in m9. I believe a few other users had same problems. I am sure my m9 gonna get better. I was close to selling it right away, but will stick with it for now. You guys have convinced me its not as bad as it seems. As i said, it can only get better as more users buy the m9 (when it becomes cheaper).
Btw how does the note4 compare with m9 speed wise? Just asking.
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What a great question! I'm so glad you asked!
I recently gave in and got my bootloader unlocked on my Verizon R800x, just so I could see what all the hoopla was about. After a few days of analysis, I've already been able to draw some conclusions that I hope new seekers will find useful.
There are several things to know when making a decision like this one.
1. What model of Xperia Play am I rocking? Not all Xperia Plays are created equal. There is the data connection to consider. If you are in most of the world outside of the US, you probably have a carrier that uses GSM for data. So does AT&T and Sprint in the US. Because it is so common, there are lots of Custom ROMS and kernels, unlocking the bootloader is easy, and many people are experienced in supporting GSM. But you're a Verizon Wireless customer? - sorry, you use a CDMA connection, which means your choices are much more limited, unlocking the bootloader is more of a challenge, and people tend to laugh at you!
2. Do I want to use the phone primarily for gaming with that sweet gamepad and not-so-sweet touchpads? Do I really depend on my phone to be 100% useable at all times? Better stick with ROMs and kernels based off of stock. No need to even know what a bootloader is!
3. Or, screw the games, I wanna be big, bad and bold, on the bleeding edge of technology! Well then, plan on furthering your techie education! You're going to be learning all kinds of fun and interesting terms, like soft brick, hard brick, adb, fastboot, flashing , RAM, ROM, push, root and boot - after awhile it all starts sounding like a naughty little party is going on in your phone! Hey, Baby! I got yer bootloader right here, know wut I'm sayin?
How about some do's and don'ts?
DON'T post a question on how to root, unlock the bootloader, install coolappofthemoment.apk or what does any of these terms mean without doing a little research on your own first. Chances are, someone else asked it at least once, probably a million times, and the only responses you're likely to get are "GEEZE, READ THE BLOODY FORUMS, YA N00B!!!"
DO use Google, search the forums, and actually READ the threads that seem relevant to your question. Yes, you will read a more than a few posts like "Does this work yet?", "I don't like the color of...", "MemberX is a troll!", but interspersed in there is quite a bit of information that you may benefit from and often you will find your answer much more quickly than posting a question and waiting for a valid response.
DON'T be afraid of rooting your phone but...
DO be aware that your warranty may (will) be affected by modifying your phone.
DON'T remove anything preinstalled by the service provider until you...
DO a Nandroid Backup first. (There's a term you will want to explore further. Hint: Look into CWM Custom Recovery.)
DON'Tuninstall system apps right away. Instead freeze them (OOOH another term you might want to learn. Hint: Titanium Backup among other apps.) Once you are comfortable with restoring your Nandroid Backup, you understand what the app does, and you experience no issues freezing it, then you can remove it if you want to free up some internal storage space.
DO pay attention to who the developers are for different projects, as well as frequent posters with actual useful contributions. You can tell who they are by the phrase "The Following 9 million Users Say Thank You to UltraDev For This Useful Post:" These are the people you want to make your bestest friends.
WOW !! Who knew there was so much to learn !!! Can't I just skip all that and charge blindly ahead??? I have one word for you. BRICK !!! OK, I have another word for you:
DON'T!!!
After trying the few kernels and Custom ROMs available to me (Yes, I am a lucky Verizon customer), I decided that, for me, it's fun to be able to juggle razors (Get It? Be on the BLEEDING EDGE???), but since some of the things I like to do with my phone are not yet working with the latest and greatest, I'm better off sticking with a customized stock configuration. The great thing is, I can always try the newer stuff and then go back to the "safe" setup.
Oh yeah! I almost forgot! There is one more DO for you, and it's extremely important!
DO click that Thanks button when someone posts a project or information that you find useful. We all want to know our efforts are appreciated, right? RIGHT?????? <<Taps his foot and looks pointedly at the Thanks button>>
Your post reminded me of Excel, of Excel Saga's fame. For that you carved a little nostalgia hole in my rocky heart.
That's going to be very useful, and you had me laughing for 10 mins with the bootloader thing
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Hello all, I am looking for an EASY way to root the Incredible. There has to be a better way than this stupid "downgrade this, flash that" bull that I am seeing everywhere. Do any of the one click root methods work anymore? Or can someone give me a guide written in legible ENGLISH (I.E NOT THIS: http://androidforums.com/incredible...ot-unlock-downgrade-achieve-s-off-htcdev.html)
What is your HBOOT version? If it's 1.02 or higher that is the best way and only way I know of. Also in my opinion one click root methods teach you nothing and make troubleshooting difficult.
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What is your HBOOT version? If it's 1.02 or higher that is the best way and only way I know of. Also in my opinion one click root methods teach you nothing and make troubleshooting difficult.
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No interest in learning. HBOOT says 1.07.
Problem with guides like that: They aren't full guides, "i.e use adb devices to see if connected. If its not, install HTC Sync" guess what, HTC Sync didn't change a damn thing.
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No interest in learning. HBOOT says 1.07.
Problem with guides like that: They aren't full guides, "i.e use adb devices to see if connected. If its not, install HTC Sync" guess what, HTC Sync didn't change a damn thing.
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Well, most people consider root a power, and with great power..... Anyways,this is a developer forum, aimed at developers. I don't have a problem teachinganyone anything (within the realm of my knowledge, of course), but I do have aproblem with those who want their hand held, and refuse to look on their own. Ican pretty much guarantee you, that if you don't learn anything, and wanteverything spelled out, that's all fine and dandy, till you have an issue. Orsomething else doesn't work right, and then you constantly ask questions on howto fix your phone when a little research and a little learning will preventmost of these issues in the first place.
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I think what a lot of people forget is that this is not a "make my phone neat & kewl" place.
As implied by the name this is technically a Developers forum/community.
Now what does that mean? Well first off it means that there is an expectation that if you are here then you want to customize your device but rather than just installing something that someone packaged you want to understand how it works and maybe even enhance it yourself.
When I first came here with a Blue Angel it was a different environment. PDA Phones were not embraced by the general public because of the expense and complexity (I paid over $400 for my BA). A $400 phone 4 years ago was expensive, today the Tilt is $300 after rebates but with inflation & the rise in the cost of other devices and the fact that there are other sources out there giving them away for $150 our neat bit of kit has become popular with mainstream users.
Now we have a flood of new users who are asking not "How can I do this myself" but more like "Give me the quick fix" without caring to understand the process. See if you read the threads then you get to experience the learning process, you see how the issues were investigated and confirmed. Then you get to watch the different attempts at resolution and learn why some failed while others worked. That is called Development.
The NooB backlash is coming from users who have walked in the development shoes and is directed mainly at those who don't care for the journey but just want the end result or destination.
As a Development Forum we are just as much (if not more) about the journey. I've read so many comments like "I don't have time to read all of the threads" or "I don't care how it works, just that it does". These very statements are contrary to the heart & soul of XDA-Devs and that is why the backlash is so strong.
Let me be very clear on this: IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE JOURNEY THEN YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
XDA-Devs is about developers & hackers helping each other and working together to get the most out of our devices by understanding them better than most.
XDA-Devs is not about helping everyone who wants a "Kewl bit of kit" make their phone better than the guy next to him.
Now do we go kicking users off who never contribute anything, NO. We tolerate it to an extent. Where the toleration ends is when these users start diluting the usefulness of the forum by repeating the same questions over and over again.
You ask us to understand your position. Well if you want to benefit from our experience and time then I think it is only fair that you understand our position.
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Sorry about that. You're easiest bet is to use htcdev.com to unlock your bootloader, then flash a recovery through your now unlocked HBOOT, then flash aSuperuser.zip to gain root.
if you knew someone who could root it for you, that would be easiest. maybe you could pay someone to root your phone? you know what we say, only smart people now how to get stuff for free or cheap. and in the realm of 'hacking" what we are definitely doing is value adding to what we have.
but if you learn how to do it, you could be that person helping others!
btw, funny thing about that link-that is the one I used. i found it a little intimidating at first(and looked extensively for an easier way that I never found) but now that I;ve rooted 3 phones, its fairly accurate. unfortunately you do have to go through the steps. there aren;t any shortcuts but it works. and the good thing is that if anything actually goes wrong in the process, atleast you should know where and why and how to fix.
Wallex said:
Hello all, I am looking for an EASY way to root the Incredible. There has to be a better way than this stupid "downgrade this, flash that" bull that I am seeing everywhere. Do any of the one click root methods work anymore? Or can someone give me a guide written in legible ENGLISH
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You could try Unrevoked (just search it). I have NO idea if it will work with your phone, as that can depend on a number of things. I guess just try some research on that. It's not like a 1-click root on your phone, but sort of like doing all of the ADB stuff from the manual way for you. I can't recall what actual version I used, but I know it installed CWMR and gave me S-Off, so I'm pretty sure I ran Unrevoked3 and/or Unrevoked Forever. You should be able to just use Unrevoked3 if you just want root.
Sorry I can't do more than point you in the right direction.... to give you any idea how long ago it was.... I decided to root because the Incredible was not getting FroYo..... hehe....
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You could try Unrevoked (just search it). I have NO idea if it will work with your phone, as that can depend on a number of things. I guess just try some research on that. It's not like a 1-click root on your phone, but sort of like doing all of the ADB stuff from the manual way for you. I can't recall what actual version I used, but I know it installed CWMR and gave me S-Off, so I'm pretty sure I ran Unrevoked3 and/or Unrevoked Forever. You should be able to just use Unrevoked3 if you just want root.
Sorry I can't do more than point you in the right direction.... to give you any idea how long ago it was.... I decided to root because the Incredible was not getting FroYo..... hehe....
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FWIW, there was a version of Unrevoked that worked with certain versions of the Dinc's software (that's how I originally rooted my first Dinc), but recent OTA upgrades have made that method very unreliable. If you have HBOOT 1.07, there is no question that the best way to get root is using the guide, and yes, that guide the OP linked is a very good one. Follow it carefully and it will work, every time. You can even stop at step 3 and have a stock, rooted, s-on phone, without the complicated downgrade which is required to get s-off. Which is what the OP wanted, I believe.
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Hello all, I am looking for an EASY way to root the Incredible. There has to be a better way than this stupid "downgrade this, flash that" bull that I am seeing everywhere. Do any of the one click root methods work anymore? Or can someone give me a guide written in legible ENGLISH (I.E NOT THIS: http://androidforums.com/incredible...ot-unlock-downgrade-achieve-s-off-htcdev.html)
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LOL @ legible ENGLISH :good: Sometimes I feel the same way.
P.S. Broke out my old HTC INCRED 2. Think I may try rooting it. Got nothing to loose.
Keep the threads alive; -)
First of all it should be briefly noted that I am complete beginner on the subject of rooting, although I do have some basic knowledge of actually what it is.
But, apart from that I want to divert myself away from the confusion. Having watched/read at least 15 tutorials on the process, I've found that more people are having problems than actually enjoying the features. All l I really want to know, is there an exact fool proof method out there for the HTC one X that is undeniably going to work? Or for my benefit should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
For my own use, all I essentially want from rooting is to simply change a few stock settings and maybe play around with a few apps. I don't really want to be messing around with new roms or the like. Having said that, what is it exactly I need to do in order to have my phone rooted and not be in danger of bricking/messing up my phone. I would still want to maintain updates from HTC, would this effect this? Or am I wanting too much?
Anyway, although most of you experts out there are probably going to be annoyed by another post like this but having done some extensive research on the process in such a small amount of time I still feel that things aren't clarified, which is probably why a lot of people do it wrong. I don't know maybe it's just human error, or a lack of understanding but I just don't want to brick my phone.
Any help breaking down the process from start to finish would be great.
I have a HTC One X running 4.1.1 on T mobile. I live in the UK so do i assume mine is the international version?
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First of all it should be briefly noted that I am complete beginner on the subject of rooting, although I do have some basic knowledge of actually what it is.
But, apart from that I want to divert myself away from the confusion. Having watched/read at least 15 tutorials on the process, I've found that more people are having problems than actually enjoying the features. All l I really want to know, is there an exact fool proof method out there for the HTC one X that is undeniably going to work? Or for my benefit should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
For my own use, all I essentially want from rooting is to simply change a few stock settings and maybe play around with a few apps. I don't really want to be messing around with new roms or the like. Having said that, what is it exactly I need to do in order to have my phone rooted and not be in danger of bricking/messing up my phone. I would still want to maintain updates from HTC, would this effect this? Or am I wanting too much?
Anyway, although most of you experts out there are probably going to be annoyed by another post like this but having done some extensive research on the process in such a small amount of time I still feel that things aren't clarified, which is probably why a lot of people do it wrong. I don't know maybe it's just human error, or a lack of understanding but I just don't want to brick my phone.
Any help breaking down the process from start to finish would be great.
I have a HTC One X running 4.1.1 on T mobile. I live in the UK so do i assume mine is the international version?
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I assume that you have the fastboot files for the htc one x .
If not then please search on xda
Make sure u backup all your important data,contacts,etc
Step 1. Register on htcdev.com
Step 2. Unlocking the bootloader
Enable usb debugging on your phone
Power off your hox
Hold power button and volume down to get into bootloader
Select fastboot
Connect hox to ur pc using usb cable
Open command prompt
Go to your fastboot folder ex. cd c:\fastboot
type "fastboot oem get_identifier_token" without quotes
Copy the token code.. check on htcdev site for copying that token code
Submit your token code
Wait for an email from htc
After you get, download the Unlock_code.bin file from the email u received
Copy it to ur fastboot folder
In command prompt type "fastboot flash unlocktoken Unlock_code.bin" without quotes
On your hox u will be prompted with "Unlock bootloader?"
Choose yes using volume buttons and then press power button
This unlocks your bootloader.
Sry gtg, will post on how to root, after sometime..
Till then unlock your bootloader.
Is the phone branded? Is the phone evita or endeavoru? Check the bootloader
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There are lots of youtube video of the process.
It's really easy, if you follow them there is nothing dangerous that might happen.
Check this tool, it may make your life easier.
Good luck
Check the post by Hasoon in the stickies. Truly foolproof
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Craiglivesey94 said:
First of all it should be briefly noted that I am complete beginner on the subject of rooting, although I do have some basic knowledge of actually what it is.
But, apart from that I want to divert myself away from the confusion. Having watched/read at least 15 tutorials on the process, I've found that more people are having problems than actually enjoying the features. All l I really want to know, is there an exact fool proof method out there for the HTC one X that is undeniably going to work? Or for my benefit should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
For my own use, all I essentially want from rooting is to simply change a few stock settings and maybe play around with a few apps. I don't really want to be messing around with new roms or the like. Having said that, what is it exactly I need to do in order to have my phone rooted and not be in danger of bricking/messing up my phone. I would still want to maintain updates from HTC, would this effect this? Or am I wanting too much?
Anyway, although most of you experts out there are probably going to be annoyed by another post like this but having done some extensive research on the process in such a small amount of time I still feel that things aren't clarified, which is probably why a lot of people do it wrong. I don't know maybe it's just human error, or a lack of understanding but I just don't want to brick my phone.
Any help breaking down the process from start to finish would be great.
I have a HTC One X running 4.1.1 on T mobile. I live in the UK so do i assume mine is the international version?
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One thing to make absolutely clear is that there is absolutely never, ever an exact foolproof method. The rooting process is as simple as it can be made and yet many fools somehow manage to screw their devices.
You are looking for a guarantee, a process that is "undeniably going to work". You are NOT going to get one.
Skipping some questions...
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I have a HTC One X running 4.1.1 on T mobile. I live in the UK so do i assume mine is the international version?
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You better be sure don't just assumed. Listen for Stefan0vic check your bootloader(hboot).
Craiglivesey94 said:
I've found that more people are having problems than actually enjoying the features. All l I really want to know, is there an exact fool proof method out there for the HTC one X that is undeniably going to work? Or for my benefit should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
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Because I'm not gonna spams if I'd do it correctly without problems. You better don't want to go through any exact noob proof methods believe me, else you'll most likely ended up with some bogus mistake/error accompany by panic and shout help me xda-ers...
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... should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
I don't know maybe it's just human error, or a lack of understanding but I just don't want to brick my phone.
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Since we're using official bootloader unlocked process not s-off, we're actually immuned to hard bricking our phone. Unharmful soft bricking happening sometimes, however 99% of human mistake or boot image did't flash properly. Assumed that you're not going to flashes any custom ROM thus you will most unlikely to face bootloop btw.
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For my own use, all I essentially want from rooting is to simply change a few stock settings and maybe play around with a few apps. I don't really want to be messing around with new roms or the like. Having said that, what is it exactly I need to do in order to have my phone rooted and not be in danger of bricking/messing up my phone. I would still want to maintain updates from HTC, would this effect this? Or am I wanting too much?
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Trickier parts. First let me explained how official OTA updates apply, it checks and verifying on many aspects to ensure integrity of the ROM. If you removed system apps, themed on it, altered framework files, you will fail to complete OTA update. Even you don't do somethings like I said, you will still lost root access after successfully apply though simple re-rooting resolve the problem.
To play safe, make sure you find a RUU for your phone (according to your phone's CID; edeavoru/evita does matter) with greater or same version number as your current. Else you might wanna to make yourself one immediately you unlokced your phone or look in the [Stock Nandroid Backups for Different CIDs] thread on this sub-forum. The reason to do that is so you can always fallback to original ROM state for an official OTA.
If the guides on this forum are not clear enough for you then you should not be attempting to do anything with your phone. There are a multitude of threads on here and 99% of them are aimed at the beginner and are as simple as they can be. If you cannot follow them then you haven't read enough. Please remember this is a Forum for developers and everyone else, including myself, is a guest here. No one is under any obligation to explain anything or provide guides of any kind, they do it because they want to. You are basically making a post directed at the people who have provided guides out of the goodness of their hearts and telling them that those guides are useless. That's not a very nice thing to do. And yes, this is another unnecessary thread
You have been clued
I'm not sure as to where I have implied or stated that the guides posted by the developers are in fact useless. I said that a lot of people make mistakes, partly due to miss understanding and miss information. If it what was that clear and fool proof people wouldn't have problems with the process, I've seen a number of people make mistakes following these guides.
It may also be a seemingly pointless post to you, and other developers, but to someone who isn't and isn't familiar with this kind of process, I have found it to be beneficial in clarifying some points I wanted to know.
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Thanks for response, I was worried I wouldn't be getting the 4.2.2 update whenever it arrives.
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Nice! I will refer my friends to this every time I get the "what is rooting" question.
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I'm not sure as to where I have implied or stated that the guides posted by the developers are in fact useless. I said that a lot of people make mistakes, partly due to miss understanding and miss information. If it what was that clear and fool proof people wouldn't have problems with the process, I've seen a number of people make mistakes following these guides.
It may also be a seemingly pointless post to you, and other developers, but to someone who isn't and isn't familiar with this kind of process, I have found it to be beneficial in clarifying some points I wanted to know.
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It is clear and it is foolproof. I'm no expert and I used the guides to which you are referring. The problem, which you don't seem to be able to understand, is that the people who are having problems have not read and understood everything before they proceed. And you have implied that the guides are no good, again. It is not mis-information, it is impatience. Read, read and read again, use the search button and read once more. Everything you ask has been answered over and over again and everyone is fed up of seeing the same questions multiple times a day. Have a look in almost any rom thread and you will see that devs and team members are repeating themselves constantly simply because people can't or won't use the search button and fail to read previous posts.
Pause a little and think how the author of a help post must feel when they read that their guide is being reported as incomplete or incorrect after spending countless hours making sure the information is correct.
Rest assured that all guides are correct and accurate, if they weren't they would only be devs on here and no users.
Where are the cakes?
I'm not sure how use words like 'incomplete' or 'incorrect' when I have used neither to describe the developers guides.
For the third time, I said miss understanding and miss information on behalf of the users who are attempting the guides. Not at all did I say or imply that the developers guides are useless. Now, I fully understand the point you're making about this being annoying, I just failed to understand how annoying this actually is on a large scale. I'm new to forums like this and it's obvious now that repetitive posts become annoying after many people have already discuss them, to which I apologise for.
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I was going through the threads and what really bugs me is the virgin mobile desire development is mixed up with the Europe version. I know the phones are identical but we have a different Hboot and Software. We should separate the two versions in two different threads making it easier for users to follow the development phase.
Would make a lot of sense, however I feel like there's not enough development on this device to even bother with the separation. Plus I feel like in the future, developers who might want to make stuff for the 816 would go for the other (dual sim) versions, so the VM one would either get way less development, or all its development a lot later, when our favorite devs were asked to port it to the VM version.
I agree with this as well. Merging the types has caused irreversible bricks for people who aren't savvy in these things especially if they haven't backed up their original software via Nandroid. Now you may think just download an RUU but those are not available for the Virgin Mobile model and finding and using someone else's nandroid isn't a simple drag and drop process including the fact that they can't boot the system. They would indeed have to use for example Cyanogenmod but then people aren't even sure if its possible to restore an original backup from Cyanogen.
On top of that there is a custom kernel but no one has uploaded an original for those who want to go back to stock for squaretrade insurance purposes maybe? I would possibly hear, this sounds like a "you" problem but regardless of the device they were produced and people do use them and some people do like to mod them to the fullest extent to call it "theirs". You might say just learn but it isn't that simple for everyone. What takes an expert a few minutes/hours to arrange may take a new person months or years and with risk that they cannot restore the device in the case of a bad flash. Just saying to consider everyone not just the general population. Minorities in society deserve a chance no?
Me? Saying; I am one of these people but I can understand the difficulty when navigating through something and when their using purely codenames such as a5_dug it makes it no simpler.
One reason for this phone.
Its available in payments on the shopping websites. 199 and 6 months to pay it off with no credit check? Yes please.
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Would make a lot of sense, however I feel like there's not enough development on this device to even bother with the separation. Plus I feel like in the future, developers who might want to make stuff for the 816 would go for the other (dual sim) versions, so the VM one would either get way less development, or all its development a lot later, when our favorite devs were asked to port it to the VM version.
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My thoughts exactly :good:
kr338r said:
My thoughts exactly :good:
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From March 2014 to now. Rarely spoken of out of 100's of Androids. Because of the price now development is increasing. Your really telling me separating the two forums would cost you enough time to not do it? There are phones that have no development on here and are completely sectioned out amazingly.
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From March 2014 to now. Rarely spoken of out of 100's of Androids. Because of the price now development is increasing. Your really telling me separating the two forums would cost you enough time to not do it? There are phones that have no development on here and are completely sectioned out amazingly.
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Funny!!!
Talk @ confusion, I saw this in the CM11 thread?
"One question; how the F*** for the life of day and night do you restore this device back to stock without an official RUU for Virgin Mobile? "
Just messin w/ ya, splitting development would not be a good idea IMHO, more of these phones were sold for months outside of US.
VM owners are probably a small minority, so most devs probably wouldn't be bothered with our ROM, give it time, if there's market penetration, we could think @ a split from WW dev.
(as it is, there isn't much going on in dev right now anyway, I'm thankful for the CM11 port we have from Grarak & v_superuser)
Truth be told, things would be easier for us if there was a separate sub forum but it wouldn't favor us as far as development goes.
To the best of my knowledge there are a handful of devs who work with VM phones. I'm not exactly sure if any of them have jumped on the 816.
Until that happens I think it's in our best interest to hang out and wait. Right now we're dependent on those that have had the phone for about 6 months longer than we have..
v_superuser and Garak have posted their CM11 in a cl;ear enough way that DLing and running that rom should be pretty straightforward. If any future roms are posted in the same way there should be no confusion.
That being said, I can see a VM specific subforum being helpful for people who may be starting out and aren't sure about general stuff relating to VM bloatware etc.
kr338r said:
Funny!!!
Talk @ confusion, I saw this in the CM11 thread?
"One question; how the F*** for the life of day and night do you restore this device back to stock without an official RUU for Virgin Mobile? "
Just messin w/ ya, splitting development would not be a good idea IMHO, more of these phones were sold for months outside of US.
VM owners are probably a small minority, so most devs probably wouldn't be bothered with our ROM, give it time, if there's market penetration, we could think @ a split from WW dev.
(as it is, there isn't much going on in dev right now anyway, I'm thankful for the CM11 port we have from Grarak & v_superuser)
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Lol . I bricked this phone 4 times going back and forth; from the Stock ROM, to the Chinese sort of stock ROM, to Cyanogen. Done erased my /sdcard to where it wasn't mountable and brought it back with Cyanogen and sideload. (Luckily, the bootloader wasn't affected by the amount of **** I threw at it.) Tested 3 different recoveries only to find out the old version from the CM11 post was the only one that really worked the properly.
I was able to start it back up and continue to put the backup onto the internal storage since I didn't have an external SD on hand; BUT then I found out that the backup was 1.96 GBs and needed to be in the /data/media/clockworkmod/backup section of the device which was inaccessible via normal USB methods since your stuck in /data/media/0 and is considered basically a completely different partition. This phone has 8GB internal and uses 4.xxGB with its normal software when installed (yes even with Cyan) then I just put a 1.96 GB file so it was basically stopping me from copying the whole folder which was just ever so slightly annoying since I had to use ES file explorer, make a new folder with the same name, then; one by one Cut and Paste each file into the new folder in the /backup folder. This might seem like a simple process but with absolutely no guides out there for a guideline this really sucked. It's basically like; if you have this device then you know how to flash/root/etc as the norm. Trial and error. -_-
Then after looking around and seeing that VM had 55$ for their plan. I saw that Straight Talk was able to accept the MEID of this VM device without a hitch, but then I looked into different carriers for even better alternatives and saw that Ringplus had $17.99 for Unlimited Talk/Text/400MB 3G/4GLTE. I thought **** why not? Turns out Ringplus doesn't accept VM devices. (Sucks)
SO then I decided to "spoof" the IMEI/MEID/ESN with DFS/QPST (Experience) and I was able to get the MEID/ESN to change and get EvDo Rev.A service but to no avail with LTE since the IMEI is "unspoofable" without S-Off. I thought well why not $17.99 for unlimited T&T w/data? Signed up with my new "S3". lmfao
Purpose of this post?
There was at least 3-10 topics I could cover for VM Desire devices now.
:victory::victory::victory:
Maybe this is a dumb question but if the VM version isn't capable of dual numbers or being ported or used anywhere else why does VM advertise this as dual sim on their site as part of the device name? What would be the point of the false advertising.
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Maybe this is a dumb question but if the VM version isn't capable of dual numbers or being ported or used anywhere else why does VM advertise this as dual sim on their site as part of the device name? What would be the point of the false advertising.
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I just checked out the VMUSA site and couldn't find anything about dual sim. I did however see "Dual Mode" used for the phone. Dual mode is just a term to say that the phone uses both CDMA and GSM. CDMA for 3G and GSM for LTE.
An answer could be to have a thread under "Desire 816 General" called "Virgin Mobile Issues" or something similar. I'm guessing there could be enough traffic to keep it on the first page for a while. For example I'm still curious exactly how the -chl is best classified. Is this hybrid best thought of as a single or dual sim? Will getting s-off allow the phone (with some rom work) to be used by another carrier? Having all these VM specific questions and answers in one place would be a plus and it shouldn't interfere with the Q&A being done on the true dev work here in other threads.
G'day all. I've been lurking around XDA Developers for many years, and have flashed many phones and tablets. I've owned a One M8 for around six months, but have not felt the need to root and flash it, until now. After entering this forum, I'm somewhat overwhelmed by the sheer amount of activity; the choices of ROMs, tools, etc. I certainly have no aversion to reading as much as I need to (in order to avoid asking stupid questions that have been asked a million times before), but some of the threads have literally thousands of responses to wade through.
Can anyone point me in the right direction, as far as which threads I should spend my time on in the short term (a bit of a quick-start guide, so to speak?).
Wrong section bro. Next time do some research and read and please read. Trust me it's not rocket science.
Edit: oh and plz don't tell about not familiar with HTC. After almost three years, I finally made a switch to m8 from Nexus 5. It took me about 3 hours to have my m8 unlocked rooted and s-off. How? Reading is a bless .
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G'day all. I've been lurking around XDA Developers for many years, and have flashed many phones and tablets. I've owned a One M8 for around six months, but have not felt the need to root and flash it, until now. After entering this forum, I'm somewhat overwhelmed by the sheer amount of activity; the choices of ROMs, tools, etc. I certainly have no aversion to reading as much as I need to (in order to avoid asking stupid questions that have been asked a million times before), but some of the threads have literally thousands of responses to wade through.
Can anyone point me in the right direction, as far as which threads I should spend my time on in the short term (a bit of a quick-start guide, so to speak?).
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I hate to be the one to break it down to you but the best way is lurking around. There are separate threat for all major US carrier. You can start in there to see what type of Rom/mod turns you on original Android development is mainly kenerls both AOSP and sense and some AOSP ROMS . The best piece of advice I can give you is go S-Off (if you are not allready) if you want to get into modding it s gonna make your life a hole lot easier.
Hope it helps
May the roms be with you.
Thanks Kuss. I'm in Australia with Telstra, so that may (or may not) complicate things. I'll start reading, or sell the phone and buy something with a less active forum. LOL.
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G'day all. I've been lurking around XDA Developers for many years, and have flashed many phones and tablets. I've owned a One M8 for around six months, but have not felt the need to root and flash it, until now. After entering this forum, I'm somewhat overwhelmed by the sheer amount of activity; the choices of ROMs, tools, etc. I certainly have no aversion to reading as much as I need to (in order to avoid asking stupid questions that have been asked a million times before), but some of the threads have literally thousands of responses to wade through.
Can anyone point me in the right direction, as far as which threads I should spend my time on in the short term (a bit of a quick-start guide, so to speak?).
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727
The ultimate guide!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2700571
A great developer! I've tried them all and keep going back here.
Goodluck
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May the roms be with you.
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*drum roll*
badboy47 said:
Wrong section bro. Next time do some research and read and please read. Trust me it's not rocket science.
Edit: oh and plz don't tell about not familiar with HTC. After almost three years, I finally made a switch to m8 from Nexus 5. It took me about 3 hours to have my m8 unlocked rooted and s-off. How? Reading is a bless .
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dankaren said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727
The ultimate guide!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2700571
A great developer! I've tried them all and keep going back here.
Goodluck
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I appreciate those links. I'll start there for sure.
rodbacon said:
Thanks Kuss. I'm in Australia with Telstra, so that may (or may not) complicate things. I'll start reading, or sell the phone and buy something with a less active forum. LOL.
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I got the same one too! I would S-Off asap if its possible with the version of hboot!
There's also nothing better than trying out different ROMs and even xposed modules. For me google play edition ROMs are for me.
I also used VomerGuides when i started, and i would suggest you go for a Sense Rom to start with, e.g. ARHD or ViperOne.
Dude, you are NOT alone. (But, yes, wrong section...LOL).
My pearls of wisdom for you, from one noob to another:
Get used to using adb. Basically, install fastboot and adb (you'll see reference to these in the guides linked in the posts above), and you run adb through your cmd window. Whatever files (zip/img) you need to push to the m8, place those in your adb folder and then just run your command window from that folder...makes things really easy.
Also, if you try to get all fancy and convert your m8 into the GPE m8 (which is what I did), I'm pretty sure the standard OTAs you'll get upon reboot break your root (and recovery), so just keep that in mind. I was planning on letting the phone auto-update to lollipop, but I think I'd prefer having the tweaks from custom roms, so I'm here now scoping those out.
If you have any questions, though, feel free to PM me, and I'll do my best to help! I agree, though, that for non-coders, the m8 modding is more intimidating than the modding was for other phones I've owned
With a handle like "Rodbacon" you are allowed to poste questions wherever you like