Hello everyone I just got the lg g4 coming from the droid turbo what a great change it was. Worth it in every way except battery life. Thing is I wanted to see if it is worth rooting? Anyone have been for a bit and willing to share any improvements? What method is best to root and if so a way to unroot as well for future reasons? Thanks so much for your help.
Root has been achieved, but isn't available yet. Gotta wait.
I get great battery life. It gets better after a few charge cycles.
Even when root comes out I would wait a bit if you have a leased plan. I would not be surprised if some of the carriers start putting in a phone home that will immediately inform them when you root and then they send you a bill for the full amount of the phone right away.
A lot of these carriers switched to this leased phone way of doing business and people need to realize you don't own your phone! The carrier owns it.
Root is always a must for me. I like root explorer and Data Sync and Titanium backup.
I am rooting ASAP is comes out. This phone needs some work under the hood.
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centran said:
Even when root comes out I would wait a bit if you have a leased plan. I would not be surprised if some of the carriers start putting in a phone home that will immediately inform them when you root and then they send you a bill for the full amount of the phone right away.
A lot of these carriers switched to this leased phone way of doing business and people need to realize you don't own your phone! The carrier owns it.
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Doubt this will ever happen!
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stl-soldier said:
Root has been achieved, but isn't available yet. Gotta wait.
I get great battery life. It gets better after a few charge cycles.
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Are you sure the Verizon variant has been rooted? First I heard of this
Dont believe verizon has yet. But im sure if att has been verizon will eventually as well.
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centran said:
Even when root comes out I would wait a bit if you have a leased plan. I would not be surprised if some of the carriers start putting in a phone home that will immediately inform them when you root and then they send you a bill for the full amount of the phone right away.
A lot of these carriers switched to this leased phone way of doing business and people need to realize you don't own your phone! The carrier owns it.
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Wtf are you talking about rofl
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centran said:
Even when root comes out I would wait a bit if you have a leased plan. I would not be surprised if some of the carriers start putting in a phone home that will immediately inform them when you root and then they send you a bill for the full amount of the phone right away.
A lot of these carriers switched to this leased phone way of doing business and people need to realize you don't own your phone! The carrier owns it.
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whut?!
MicroMod777 said:
Doubt this will ever happen!
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ambervals6 said:
Wtf are you talking about rofl
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Bootup said:
whut?!
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Not saying they did anything like that for this phone... although with the carrier IQ on some of the carriers who knows! I am just saying this is something to look out for in the future.
Listen... this whole leased phone thing that most of the carriers are trying is a fairly new concept. If you lease you do not own your phone. PERIOD. It isn't yours. The carrier technically owns the phone till you choose to pay it off(if they allow that and most do). What is to say that they won't want to detect if you root your phone. If they can tell you did then what? Since it isn't technically your phone what will they do? Will they care? Well, I'm sure they will see it that all those people can now tether without paying an addon charge and they are losing X amount in money since they are getting something for free. You or any other logical person may not see it as them losing money but that is not how companies view things.
Again, not saying this is something that will popup with the LG G4 and surprise everyone. I'm just saying watch out. There is a reason they won't unlock any of the US carrier bootloaders.
I doubt that carriers will be implementing that technique of being notifed right away when the phone gets rooted. If they do then one can sue or take to court because they are invading privacy.
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Not saying they did anything like that for this phone... although with the carrier IQ on some of the carriers who knows! I am just saying this is something to look out for in the future.
Listen... this whole leased phone thing that most of the carriers are trying is a fairly new concept. If you lease you do not own your phone. PERIOD. It isn't yours. The carrier technically owns the phone till you choose to pay it off(if they allow that and most do). What is to say that they won't want to detect if you root your phone. If they can tell you did then what? Since it isn't technically your phone what will they do? Will they care? Well, I'm sure they will see it that all those people can now tether without paying an addon charge and they are losing X amount in money since they are getting something for free. You or any other logical person may not see it as them losing money but that is not how companies view things.
Again, not saying this is something that will popup with the LG G4 and surprise everyone. I'm just saying watch out. There is a reason they won't unlock any of the US carrier bootloaders.
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You also don't own your phone with the subsidized model either, until you finish your 2 year contract or pay your ETF
As a side note, I really wish you can unthank people on tapatalk.
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centran said:
Not saying they did anything like that for this phone... although with the carrier IQ on some of the carriers who knows! I am just saying this is something to look out for in the future.
Listen... this whole leased phone thing that most of the carriers are trying is a fairly new concept. If you lease you do not own your phone. PERIOD. It isn't yours. The carrier technically owns the phone till you choose to pay it off(if they allow that and most do). What is to say that they won't want to detect if you root your phone. If they can tell you did then what? Since it isn't technically your phone what will they do? Will they care? Well, I'm sure they will see it that all those people can now tether without paying an addon charge and they are losing X amount in money since they are getting something for free. You or any other logical person may not see it as them losing money but that is not how companies view things.
Again, not saying this is something that will popup with the LG G4 and surprise everyone. I'm just saying watch out. There is a reason they won't unlock any of the US carrier bootloaders.
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Lmao dude you are tripping go have a walk some fresh air helps
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centran said:
Not saying they did anything like that for this phone... although with the carrier IQ on some of the carriers who knows! I am just saying this is something to look out for in the future.
Listen... this whole leased phone thing that most of the carriers are trying is a fairly new concept. If you lease you do not own your phone. PERIOD. It isn't yours. The carrier technically owns the phone till you choose to pay it off(if they allow that and most do). What is to say that they won't want to detect if you root your phone. If they can tell you did then what? Since it isn't technically your phone what will they do? Will they care? Well, I'm sure they will see it that all those people can now tether without paying an addon charge and they are losing X amount in money since they are getting something for free. You or any other logical person may not see it as them losing money but that is not how companies view things.
Again, not saying this is something that will popup with the LG G4 and surprise everyone. I'm just saying watch out. There is a reason they won't unlock any of the US carrier bootloaders.
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T-Mobile does not lock the bootloader on their phones. Never has. I agree that you are tripping.
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T-Mobile does not lock the bootloader on their phones. Never has. I agree that you are tripping.
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Isn't the T-Mobile g4 locked?
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truckerdewd said:
T-Mobile does not lock the bootloader on their phones. Never has. I agree that you are tripping.
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Isn't the T-Mobile g4 locked?
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The T-Mobile G4 is bootloader locked as is on all US carriers.
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The T-Mobile G4 is bootloader locked as is on all US carriers.
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Nobody has confirmed this. Untill we have root and zero out the laf partition and check in fastboot if its locked we will know. T-Mobile G2 n G3 have all been factory unlocked.
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MicroMod777 said:
Nobody has confirmed this. Untill we have root and zero out the laf partition and check in fastboot if its locked we will know. T-Mobile G2 n G3 have all been factory unlocked.
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I thought I read that LG confirmed that the only edition that was BL unlocked was the 815 for Europe or did I read that wrong?
I just saw a post where only the 815 variant was able to get twrp recovery
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One of the biggest reasons I didn't buy the Sprint Galaxy Note 3 was because of the device only supporting uniband LTE.
Do we know what kind of antennas the Sprint Note 4 will have from the FCC filings? I am hoping it's Tri-band. :laugh: :good:
Here is a link to all of the documents if someone who knows what they're doing can gleen an answer:
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=598336&fcc_id=A3LSMN910P
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One of the biggest reasons I didn't buy the Sprint Galaxy Note 3 was because of the device only supporting uniband LTE.
Do we know what kind of antennas the Sprint Note 4 will have from the FCC filings? I am hoping it's Tri-band. :laugh: :good:
Here is a link to all of the documents if someone who knows what they're doing can gleen an answer:
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=598336&fcc_id=A3LSMN910P
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I might have answered my own question, but confirmation would be nice:
I found these:
* LTE Band 26
* LTE Band 25 (PCS)
* LTE Band 41
It also appears to support MIMO Wifi
Yes it's going to be triband and thus spark enabled.
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Sprint note 4?
Lets see if sprint locks the sim down on this phone just like they did on the note 3, if so, I will NOT purchase this handset. Samsung is trying the apple approach when it comes to developing its own eco system, giving users less options; Is anyone else hear worried about the sim lock? What about the new KNOX? I really dont want to go through all that again,ughhh
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Lets see if sprint locks the sim down on this phone just like they did on the note 3, if so, I will NOT purchase this handset. Samsung is trying the apple approach when it comes to developing its own eco system, giving users less options; Is anyone else hear worried about the sim lock? What about the new KNOX? I really dont want to go through all that again,ughhh
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By sim lock do you mean not being able to use it on other carriers domestically?
As far as my understanding goes, isn't a bigger issue a locked bootloader than Knox since sprint could probably care less about Knox being tripped?
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That as well
We still dont have a way to unlock the N3 ( without sprint international or domestic ) So I assume it will be the same way on the N4. Lock bootloader im not so much concerned about, only because i doubt it will come with one. ( I could be wrong and if i am i apologize in advance lol ) If it comes with a locked bootloader, then i will simply rma it and not use my upgrade, ditch sprint and head to tmobile.
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By sim lock do you mean not being able to use it on other carriers domestically?
As far as my understanding goes, isn't a bigger issue a locked bootloader than Knox since sprint could probably care less about Knox being tripped?
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We still dont have a way to unlock the N3 ( without sprint international or domestic ) So I assume it will be the same way on the N4. Lock bootloader im not so much concerned about, only because i doubt it will come with one. ( I could be wrong and if i am i apologize in advance lol ) If it comes with a locked bootloader, then i will simply rma it and not use my upgrade, ditch sprint and head to tmobile.
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Forgive me if I'm misunderstanding what you said but to use your phone internationally all you have to do is call sprint for the unlock code. For domestic purposes sprint won't unlock it until after Feb 2015 for phones made after that date
Yeah I don't forsee the bootloader being unlocked but hopefully some devs will find a way around it? One can hope at least. Either way I'll stick with the note 4 as I'm coming from the s3 and got a good family plan so no plans of switching carriers.
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No worries ..
My dear xda friend, you cant unlock the sim for international use if you are on the sprint easy pay program, even i fyou purchased your phone out right ( in my case anyway ) i have 3 lines with sprint and they wont allow me to unlock them, so i am s.o.l, even if i wasnt on easy pay, they told me that i have an old account that has an unsettled debt so they wont unlock it, even though it was proven to be fraud in court.
Thats even more of a reason to terminate service. im really disappointed with cell phone manufacturers,especially samsung, how do you not include usb 3.0 and temp and humidity sensors, some people actually use these for work, guess ill be sticking with my N3
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Forgive me if I'm misunderstanding what you said but to use your phone internationally all you have to do is call sprint for the unlock code. For domestic purposes sprint won't unlock it until after Feb 2015 for phones made after that date
Yeah I don't forsee the bootloader being unlocked but hopefully some devs will find a way around it? One can hope at least. Either way I'll stick with the note 4 as I'm coming from the s3 and got a good family plan so no plans of switching carriers.
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My dear xda friend, you cant unlock the sim for international use if you are on the sprint easy pay program, even i fyou purchased your phone out right ( in my case anyway ) i have 3 lines with sprint and they wont allow me to unlock them, so i am s.o.l, even if i wasnt on easy pay, they told me that i have an old account that has an unsettled debt so they wont unlock it, even though it was proven to be fraud in court.
Thats even more of a reason to terminate service. im really disappointed with cell phone manufacturers,especially samsung, how do you not include usb 3.0 and temp and humidity sensors, some people actually use these for work, guess ill be sticking with my N3
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Ah I see. I guess since im not on easy pay nor had issues on my account I would be in a different boat than you.
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About20ninj45 said:
We still dont have a way to unlock the N3 ( without sprint international or domestic ) So I assume it will be the same way on the N4. Lock bootloader im not so much concerned about, only because i doubt it will come with one. ( I could be wrong and if i am i apologize in advance lol ) If it comes with a locked bootloader, then i will simply rma it and not use my upgrade, ditch sprint and head to tmobile.
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Wasn't sprint the only carrier to send out the S5 with unlocked bootloader? So why would t-mobile leave the Note 4 alone but lock the S5? For me im good as long as there is a root but I also don't mind TW roms.
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sml2004 said:
Wasn't sprint the only carrier to send out the S5 with unlocked bootloader? So why would t-mobile leave the Note 4 alone but lock the S5? For me im good as long as there is a root but I also don't mind TW roms.
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But i dont mind stock roms, i like tw, and regularly use my spen, i just want to be able to swap sims and carriers when and how i want.
Sprint released news a while back about devices manufactured in 2015 will be " unlockable" but the funny thing is, the law allowing you to unlock your phone expires next year< end of 2015. So sprint is trying to dodge that bullet, and im pretty sure the note 4 wont be unlockable
I like tw as well! Just like rooted stock...
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I like tw as well! Just like rooted stock...
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Ditto
Anyone successfully used an unlocking service for their s6 edge? Any recommendations?
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Thanks, I'm curious if anyone successfully use them to unlock phone yet
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Andrew K. Sterling said:
Hi,
After a quick search on Google, the first results page points to www.unlockunit.com, while on the second page I've also found www.safeunlockcode.com. I couldn't find the prices for the latter, but the first company seems to have some pretty accessible fees.
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Unlock Unit could not help me and had to refund my payment. They required me to upload a video of proof that the code they provided didn't work. It seems the phone can only be unlocked with the Unlock app that comes pre-installed, at least for now. T-Mobile hasn't even been able to help me unlock it yet.
you do know that T-Mobile offers you x amount of days to unlock you phone right? (Device unlock) you should have an icon for it.
Rep told me today that they are only allowing unlock for business customers and long standing regular customers. (2+ year active account) If you don't qualify for this, she said the earliest people will be able to submit for an unlock is 20 days - after the buyers remorse period. Still doesn't make sense to me as that only locks me to the device and not the service.
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Rep told me today that they are only allowing unlock for business customers and long standing regular customers. (2+ year active account) If you don't qualify for this, she said the earliest people will be able to submit for an unlock is 20 days - after the buyers remorse period. Still doesn't make sense to me as that only locks me to the device and not the service.
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I see what you are saying. I have been with them for 10 years so I see where I wouldn't have that issue. Making you wait the 20 days does not make sense seeing that you are tied to the phone anyways or maybe because people may try to flip the it for $? I am sure they have their reasons. I would wait if you are not in a big rush.
Seems like those of us who got the phone to immediately use on AT&T are at a painful time. I haven't been able to use my edge as my primary device because of the unlock struggle. Now I can open a business line with tmobile no problem and tmobile has wideband in my area, it's just that for the same $55 I'd pay them for unlimited everything, I get better coverage with cricket and get 20GB (which I'm grandfathered) which feels like unlimited because I use 10GB under super heavy usage.
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osmosizzz said:
Seems like those of us who got the phone to immediately use on AT&T are at a painful time. I haven't been able to use my edge as my primary device because of the unlock struggle. Now I can open a business line with tmobile no problem and tmobile has wideband in my area, it's just that for the same $55 I'd pay them for unlimited everything, I get better coverage with cricket and get 20GB (which I'm grandfathered) which feels like unlimited because I use 10GB under super heavy usage.
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Maybe its only matter of time that the people of xdadevelopers came up with an unlock option by software.
Hope it doesn' t take long.
not sre which varient you ask for but one of my friend successfully unlocked his at&t variant with www.codes2unlock.com
Just unlock my tmob s6 edge with theunlockpros.com just take like 15 minutes, cost like 25 dollars you have to download a software then a guy connects to your computer and will guide you all the process to unlock your phone, it helps if you already rooted with pingpong.
janocool said:
Just unlock my tmob s6 edge with theunlockpros.com just take like 15 minutes, cost like 25 dollars you have to download a software then a guy connects to your computer and will guide you all the process to unlock your phone, it helps if you already rooted with pingpong.
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Or if you don't want your phone to get bricked when updating to 5.1.1 I just require imei number and I can help you unlock it official way
Sunderwear said:
Or if you don't want your phone to get bricked when updating to 5.1.1 I just require imei number and I can help you unlock it official way
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curious,, what's the official way ? is that different from the remote unlocking some people here are offering with teamviewer etc ?
batillojr said:
curious,, what's the official way ? is that different from the remote unlocking some people here are offering with teamviewer etc ?
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you do it tru the tmobile app.
Sunderwear said:
you do it tru the tmobile app.
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ohhhhh !! nice job then !
Yea, hell no i'm letting anyone connect to my computer. I got it done via http://instantunlocks.com like i have with all my other phones in the past
ballu84 said:
Yea, hell no i'm letting anyone connect to my computer. I got it done via http://instantunlocks.com like i have with all my other phones in the past
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Uhh what? http://instantunlocks.com/?product=unlock-samsung-usa-all-models
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Era1985 said:
Hi! I successfully unlocked my Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge thanks to the Unlocking service called called UnlockBase. They've got this Direct Remote Unlock solution working with Original USB Cable to Unlock any Samsung Galaxy S6 and S6 Edge.
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janocool said:
Just unlock my tmob s6 edge with theunlockpros.com just take like 15 minutes, cost like 25 dollars you have to download a software then a guy connects to your computer and will guide you all the process to unlock your phone, it helps if you already rooted with pingpong.
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ztmike said:
Uhh what? http://instantunlocks.com/?product=unlock-samsung-usa-all-models
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no, i used this service http://instantunlocks.com/?product=t-mobilemetropcs-usa-unlock-via-android-app . i think this is the only way to unlock the newer tmobile phones except iphones
I always use https://www.unlockbase.com/ when I need an unlock.
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I always use https://www.unlockbase.com/ when I need an unlock.
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Yea but like the other users mentioned,unlock base is on some weird **** connecting phones to the computer and unlocking remotely. NO THANK YOU!!!
Are you still offering the unlock service?
So my girlfriend just purchased an S6 (sprint) and when she took it to the store to have it activated they couldn't do it because it was "locked"...some kind of carrier lock I'm assuming.. Like they owed sprint money or something? Obviously if it was a normal security lock than we could just do a factory reset but apparently that won't work.
So.. Anyone know anything about this and a way around it? I'm a Verizon user and have never heard of this kind of problem. Thanks for any help in advance.
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So my girlfriend just purchased an S6 (sprint) and when she took it to the store to have it activated they couldn't do it because it was "locked"...some kind of carrier lock I'm assuming.. Like they owed sprint money or something? Obviously if it was a normal security lock than we could just do a factory reset but apparently that won't work.
So.. Anyone know anything about this and a way around it? I'm a Verizon user and have never heard of this kind of problem. Thanks for any help in advance.
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All carriers, including Verizon, have a carrier BLOCK not lock. A carrier lock means the device is locked to that carrier. What exactly did Sprint say? If the phone is blacklisted, which you can check on any ESN checker online, then it will never work on Sprint.
Where did she buy the phone at?
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All carriers, including Verizon, have a carrier BLOCK not lock. A carrier lock means the device is locked to that carrier. What exactly did Sprint say? If the phone is blacklisted, which you can check on any ESN checker online, then it will never work on Sprint.
Where did she buy the phone at?
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I'm unsure what they told her exactly, besides that they can't activate it. Now what is the point of a carrier block? She got the phone off Craigslist.
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I'm unsure what they told her exactly, besides that they can't activate it. Now what is the point of a carrier block? She got the phone off Craigslist.
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Yup. Its definitely carrier blocked. NEVER buy cell phones from Craigslist without first checking the ESN from Sprint directly. You are better off selling the device on eBay FOR PARTS.
The point of a carrier block is so people who steal, or fail to pay off their device, can not use it anymore, and thus rip off good people on craigslist and eBay.
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Yup. Its definitely carrier blocked. NEVER buy cell phones from Craigslist without first checking the ESN from Sprint directly. You are better off selling the device on eBay FOR PARTS.
The point of a carrier block is so people who steal, or fail to pay off their device, can not use it anymore, and thus rip off good people on craigslist and eBay.
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Joy. Problem with this phone is that it has a none removal back.. Can't look under the battery.. Can't get into the phone to check the ESN either without the previous owners Gmail account information.
topshot17 said:
Joy. Problem with this phone is that it has a none removal back.. Can't look under the battery.. Can't get into the phone to check the ESN either without the previous owners Gmail account information.
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That I believe is an FRP lock.. Totally different from a carrier block. But if you go into download mode, you can press the home key to view IMEI. But FRP lock, which is what you just described, can be bypassed.
Check out this video and follow it to a T. You may need to improvise do to different android versions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ8_qbj1DPQ
Hope it helps! If its just FRP locked, and not carrier blocked, then you should be okay to get it activated.
elesbb said:
That I believe is an FRP lock.. Totally different from a carrier block. But if you go into download mode, you can press the home key to view IMEI. But FRP lock, which is what you just described, can be bypassed.
Check out this video and follow it to a T. You may need to improvise do to different android versions.
Hope it helps! If its just FRP locked, and not carrier blocked, then you should be okay to get it activated.
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Thank you, I'll check into it.
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The numbers for the device is located on the back panel, at the bottom.
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Ahh it is.. So the phone did have an FRP lock on it but that was an easy fix.. But unfortunately it also has a carrier block due to an unpaid balance. Thanks for everyone's help.
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Ahh it is.. So the phone did have an FRP lock on it but that was an easy fix.. But unfortunately it also has a carrier block due to an unpaid balance. Thanks for everyone's help.
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can't you contact the person who sold it to you? threatening to bring the police in might scare them into giving you a refund. If the phone had a FRP lock and its flagged, then im pretty sure the phone was stolen.
The Android Attorney said:
can't you contact the person who sold it to you? threatening to bring the police in might scare them into giving you a refund. If the phone had a FRP lock and its flagged, then im pretty sure the phone was stolen.
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Yeah It more than likely was. It's pretty much a dead end.. My gf payed for it but her brother met the person somewhere for pickup.. Only contact information is an email address which they haven't responded too after the sale. Apparently the phone was dead when he picked it up. I personally would have put it on my car charger and powered it on before paying for it.. And got more information.. But oh well.. Now she knows to be more cautious and I'll probably handle any future used phone purchases for her.
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Shady stuff man. I hope you have better luck with Craigslist in the future. I try to steer clear of them, sort of like Ebay. You could always inquire on what the remaining balance is. If it's something stupid like $48, I would just pay it off.
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Haha yeah somehow I doubt it'll be anything under a few hundred.. Think I'll call and check just got kicks though.
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Yeah It more than likely was. It's pretty much a dead end.. My gf payed for it but her brother met the person somewhere for pickup.. Only contact information is an email address which they haven't responded too after the sale. Apparently the phone was dead when he picked it up. I personally would have put it on my car charger and powered it on before paying for it.. And got more information.. But oh well.. Now she knows to be more cautious and I'll probably handle any future used phone purchases for her.
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Who buys a used cellphone without even physically checking it ?? I mean seriously ?...next time when buying atleast have a number of the seller and complete info of what u are buying atleast
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If you own the phone and there's no balance why can't Verizon unlock it so that I can unlock the bootloader? I have a Tmobile Oneplus 6t as well and I purchased it outright and the TMobile Rep unlocked it for me. Has anyone ever called Verizon to unlock the Pixel?
I've used my pixel on T-Mobile without any issues.
mackentosh said:
If you own the phone and there's no balance why can't Verizon unlock it? I have a Tmobile Oneplus 6t as well and I purchased it outright and the TMobile Rep unlocked it for me. Has anyone ever called Verizon to unlock the Pixel?
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I've used my pixel on T-Mobile without any issues.
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That is true I am also using the Verizon variante on TMobile but what I'm saying is my TMobile OnePlus 6t came with a greyed out OEM Unlock option. So I called TMobile and told them I want the phone unlocked and they did it. I just had to factory reset the phone and the option was no longer greyed out. So I'm wondering why can't Verizon do the same for the Pixel? I mean I do own the phone out right no finance.
Verizon will not allow the bootloader unlock and I highly doubt any devs are looking into it either.
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Verizon will not allow the bootloader unlock and I highly doubt any devs are looking into it either.
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That's stupid specially if I own the phone, it's like they still have control over it even though I own it. I guess that's what I get for being impatient and rushing to get the Pixel instead ordering it from Google and waiting on the shipping
I'm in the same boat but to be honest the whole point of a pixel in my opinion is to get a pure Google experience.. I don't have a valid reason to root to be honest. Also my work apps won't work on a rooted phone so might as well be bootloader locked
As I'm in Ireland and bought the 3xl while on a work trip on launch day I'm tempted to see if Verizon might unlock it for me.. really it's not making much difference to me
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That's stupid specially if I own the phone, it's like they still have control over it even though I own it. I guess that's what I get for being impatient and rushing to get the Pixel instead ordering it from Google and waiting on the shipping
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So please elaborate. You bought the phone from Verizon to use on another network? How and why would you do that? If I wasn't on VZW I'd never get the phone from them... oh wait, did you buy it from BB, i.e. the VZW version on discount? If so you probably need to return it if it's still possible. If not then you are locked forever. Only way is to sell it and buy another. Yes, you own the phone but they own the discount you got from BB and basically you're screwed. Damn that sucks man.
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So please elaborate. You bought the phone from Verizon to use on another network? How and why would you do that? If I wasn't on VZW I'd never get the phone from them... oh wait, did you buy it from BB, i.e. the VZW version on discount? If so you probably need to return it if it's still possible. If not then you are locked forever. Only way is to sell it and buy another. Yes, you own the phone but they own the discount you got from BB and basically you're screwed. Damn that sucks man.
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When I say I bought it outright I mean no discount, I paid just over $1000 for the pixel 3xl from best buy but it's all good I'll sell it and buy another one from google
Mine unlocked within 10 hours after purchase. I've read that all their phones were locked to Verizon before they're sold to prevent theft.
shawn605 said:
Mine unlocked within 10 hours after purchase. I've read that all their phones were locked to Verizon before they're sold to prevent theft.
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Your bootloader or your sims card,?
Homeboy76 said:
Your bootloader or your sims card,?
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He's talking about the SIM card.
VZW will not and has never unlocked a BL on any phone that had a locked BL. They say it protects their nerwork... More like they hate people hacking their apps and loosing money.
Last unlocked BL they sold was Nexus 6... Correct me, cuz I did zero research on this... Just my cloudy damaged memory
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He's talking about the SIM card.
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Thread: Pixel 3 XL Questions and Answers...
Question: Will Verizon unlock the Pixel?
I thought that's what he meant, I asked for clarification.
As for the bootloader, no they will not. I just moved to Pixel 3 XL after getting an OG Verizon PIxel XL right after launch (actually immediately after the dePixel exploit was published or I would have purchased direct from Google or chose another phone). This same discussion along with the same "it's not fair since I own the device" arguments has been going on for years. Look at Huawei for evidence that bootloader locking is becoming more restrictive and not less. You can only purchase the device outright, and even they have discontinued the bootloader code request system. Eventually an exploit might come around, but maybe it won't. jcase pretty much said the original dePixel find was an accident, and it took another year and a half or so to find another for a phone that was already being replaced. Either take a risk that one will be found knowing that it might never come, or bite the bullet and buy a Google version or a 6T (where even if you get it at full price from T-Mobile you might have to wait to get BL and carrier unlock).
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VZW will not and has never unlocked a BL on any phone that had a locked BL. They say it protects their nerwork...
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Does it protect their network if I never accept any OTA updates because such updates could fix any exploits that eventually will be used to allow me to root the phone that I bought and own?
I mean, I'm just wondering what they would say/do if a lot of people start telling them point blank that they are going to boycott all security and other updates until they allow BL unlocking.
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Does it protect their network if I never accept any OTA updates because such updates could fix any exploits that eventually will be used to allow me to root the phone that I bought and own?
I mean, I'm just wondering what they would say/do if a lot of people start telling them point blank that they are going to boycott all security and other updates until they allow BL unlocking.
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Easy answer. They don't care about consumer opinion until results are felt. They are concerned with brand, lawsuits , and corporate spending. Look at it this way, this thread was last posted on (by me) over a year ago, and there hasn't even been a sniff of an exploit or getting Big Red to change even once.
Once, a long time ago, Verizon carried bootloader unlockable phones. My Nexus 6 was from Verizon and it was fantastic. Google made a marketing decision for Verizon to push the Pixel OG exclusively, Verizon forced them to make a varient that could be locked down and full of Verizon crapware, just like every phone on their network. OG, 2, 3 and now 4, sold by Verizon will never get natively unlocked. The only hope would be a temp root solution and being able to toggle the unlock in developers options.
6 years ago unlocked "dev" phones weren't readily available, but Google sells an unlockable version now, with financing if you want, most people that want root just buy that.
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When I say I bought it outright I mean no discount, I paid just over $1000 for the pixel 3xl from best buy but it's all good I'll sell it and buy another one from google
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Yea sell that for sure. I bought a new unlocked P3XL for 400.00 on Amazon last month.
Hi everyone,
I've got smashed Galaxy Note 10+ from eBay, fixed it and found out that it has a kind of carrier change temporary lock. IMEI is clean, not blacklisted or anything. Technically the phone is unlocked and it fully works with my non-US carrier SIM card for around 5 min or so. But after that a ridiculous nonsense message about carrier change pops up and the phone becomes blocked. It looks like the phone is connecting by itself with Verizon servers, they detect other carrier SIM card and block GSM functionality. I flashed international U1 firmware already but it didn't help. Verizon tells some 60 day activation cap - the phone will be unlocked automatically after 60 days since Verizon account activation. Is there any way to fix it / block the phone from communicating with Verizon? I have no idea how long should I wait since the phone was wiped before sale.
Thanks in advance.
Sounds like the seller might have received an insurance replacement due to the damage. Maybe the phone is blocked by Verizon because it should have been disposed of and/or should no longer be used in their network. Just a guess.
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burrzoo said:
Sounds like the seller might have received an insurance replacement due to the damage. Maybe the phone is blocked by Verizon because it should have been disposed of and/or should no longer be used in their network. Just a guess.
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The phone is not going to be used in the USA. Again, it works for few minutes. It's not blocked straightaway.
WarVic said:
The phone is not going to be used in the USA. Again, it works for few minutes. It's not blocked straightaway.
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That's just the way the network lock works.....you'll need to wait the 60 days...(probably closer to 30 now...but no way to know)
If you can't wait there are paid solutions that you can use... cell unlocking services.
No amount of firmware changing etc will have an effect on the network lock.....sorry.
Also i disagree with the other poster....sounds like you confirmed its not blacklisted....what you're experiencing is the typical network lock behavior.....pay or wait it out.
Btw any before and after pics?
What did you pay for smashed device? How much spent repairing?
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louforgiveno said:
That's just the way the network lock works.....you'll need to wait the 60 days...(probably closer to 30 now...but no way to know)
If you can't wait there are paid solutions that you can use... cell unlocking services.
No amount of firmware changing etc will have an effect on the network lock.....sorry.
Also i disagree with the other poster....sounds like you confirmed its not blacklisted....what you're experiencing is the typical network lock behavior.....pay or wait it out.
Btw any before and after pics?
What did you pay for smashed device? How much spent repairing?
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I paid US$230 for smashed device, $320 for screen assembly with housing, $15 for back glass cover (haven't receive it yet), $40 for S-pen. Screen assembly is original despite being bought from AliExpress. It looks like brand new now. Just waiting for back cover and unlock.
Yikes! That thing got brutalized
Not a bad deal....too bad the damn screen assemblies cost so much!
Thanks for the info.
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louforgiveno said:
Yikes! That thing got brutalized
Not a bad deal....too bad the damn screen assemblies cost so much!
Thanks for the info.
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This is why I like and dislike Samsung Galaxy flagships. Screen is always damn expensive but the possibility to fix completely smashed device is very high. Actually I repaired few Galaxies in much worse condition than that. At the same time, recently I had an iPhone XS Max with relatively light screen damage and was unable to repair it due to face ID failure (logic board fault). Cheers!
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This is why I like and dislike Samsung Galaxy flagships. Screen is always damn expensive but the possibility to fix completely smashed device is very high. Actually I repaired few Galaxies in much worse condition than that. At the same time, recently I had an iPhone XS Max with relatively light screen damage and was unable to repair it due to face ID failure (logic board fault). Cheers!
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not bad for such an amazing screen
WarVic said:
Hi everyone,
I've got smashed Galaxy Note 10+ from eBay, fixed it and found out that it has a kind of carrier change temporary lock. IMEI is clean, not blacklisted or anything. Technically the phone is unlocked and it fully works with my non-US carrier SIM card for around 5 min or so. But after that a ridiculous nonsense message about carrier change pops up and the phone becomes blocked. It looks like the phone is connecting by itself with Verizon servers, they detect other carrier SIM card and block GSM functionality. I flashed international U1 firmware already but it didn't help. Verizon tells some 60 day activation cap - the phone will be unlocked automatically after 60 days since Verizon account activation. Is there any way to fix it / block the phone from communicating with Verizon? I have no idea how long should I wait since the phone was wiped before sale.
Thanks in advance.
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Did you call Verizon? Give them IMEI and they should be able to tell you what's up
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Did you call Verizon? Give them IMEI and they should be able to tell you what's up
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I live 13000km away from USA so the call to Verizon could be not cheap. I had an online chat with them via Messenger and they asked me my Verizon account details to answer my question. Obviously I don't have them. From now I'm looking for not crazy expensive unlock service.
oneandroidnut said:
Did you call Verizon? Give them IMEI and they should be able to tell you what's up
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Just had one more conversation with Verizon. It seems that they're bloody dickheads! They claim the Verizon does not lock phones which is pure lie. And their temporary carrier lock system is a bloody mess. They're unable to manage it at all!!! Just look at my conversation history with Verizon support:
"We greatly appreciate this (IMEI) information, Victor. After further review, we do show that this IMEI is not currently showing a carrier lock to our network....
I know this is confusing and that you just want to get full use out of that phone. While we don't lock any locks on the phone, it is true that takes 60 days from sale of the phone for a phone to be unlocked. We would suggest that you get in contact with the seller of this phone and instruct them to get in contact with Verizon or alternately, reach out to the selling platform you used and your local carrier. Keep in mind also that Verizon sold phones are not guaranteed to work with other carriers. We would not be able to provide any further support beyond this. I hope this helps clarify and if you have any additional concerns, we are happy to help out. "
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Just had one more conversation with Verizon. It seems that they're bloody dickheads! They claim the Verizon does not lock phones which is pure lie. And their temporary carrier lock system is a bloody mess. They're unable to manage it at all!!! Just look at my conversation history with Verizon support:
"We greatly appreciate this (IMEI) information, Victor. After further review, we do show that this IMEI is not currently showing a carrier lock to our network....
I know this is confusing and that you just want to get full use out of that phone. While we don't lock any locks on the phone, it is true that takes 60 days from sale of the phone for a phone to be unlocked. We would suggest that you get in contact with the seller of this phone and instruct them to get in contact with Verizon or alternately, reach out to the selling platform you used and your local carrier. Keep in mind also that Verizon sold phones are not guaranteed to work with other carriers. We would not be able to provide any further support beyond this. I hope this helps clarify and if you have any additional concerns, we are happy to help out. "
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Is the phone a verizon branded one? what is the model #?
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Is the phone a verizon branded one? what is the model #?
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No, it's just a standard SM-N975U, not a Verizon branded one. Actually I was able to easily flash it into unlocked N975U1 version. But still that damn Carrier change message pops up and blocks GSM capability.
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No, it's just a standard SM-N975U, not a Verizon branded one. Actually I was able to easily flash it into unlocked N975U1 version. But still that damn Carrier change message pops up and blocks GSM capability.
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because its a carrier variant and is sim locked
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because its a carrier variant and is sim locked
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As I sad earlier, I had a chat with Verizon twice regarding this phone. They checked it by IMEI and told me that it is NOT SIM locked. This is the only useful piece of info I've got from them. Despite of that, they were unable to help me with that Carrier Change issue sending me to original owner / Verizon account holder of this phone. So it's not a carrier variant and not sim locked.
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As I sad earlier, I had a chat with Verizon twice regarding this phone. They checked it by IMEI and told me that it is NOT SIM locked. This is the only useful piece of info I've got from them. Despite of that, they were unable to help me with that Carrier Change issue sending me to original owner / Verizon account holder of this phone. So it's not a carrier variant and not sim locked.
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i think ur confused lol... if it was originally sold by verizon then it is a Verizon Variant..
and clearly you are sim locked as thats the exact message ypu get when its sim locked as well as you dont get service with the other carrier..
based on what u posted whoever you talked to has no idea what theyre talking about especially if theyre telling you they dont lock phones which meansthey also didnt even bother to look up their own policy for it and instead just made stuff up off the top of their head..
but hey, dont take my word for it.. it wont work as u need tho until vzw unlocks it or u pay for a service to unlock it.
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elliwigy said:
i think ur confused lol... if it was originally sold by verizon then it is a Verizon Variant..
and clearly you are sim locked as thats the exact message ypu get when its sim locked as well as you dont get service with the other carrier..
based on what u posted whoever you talked to has no idea what theyre talking about especially if theyre telling you they dont lock phones which meansthey also didnt even bother to look up their own policy for it and instead just made stuff up off the top of their head..
but hey, dont take my word for it.. it wont work as u need tho until vzw unlocks it our u pay for a service to unlock it.
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Yes, I'm confused indeed. Confused by Verizon which says one thing but does other. They clearly said that "we don't lock our phones" but apparently they do it! Bloody bastards!
Did you manage to unlock the device?
WarVic said:
Yes, I'm confused indeed. Confused by Verizon which says one thing but does other. They clearly said that "we don't lock our phones" but apparently they do it! Bloody bastards!
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Did you manage to unlock it?
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Did you manage to unlock it?
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No, I sold it. As I can see there is no unlocking solution right now. No hope that it will be available any time soon.