I am a little confused about what constitues an OTA update and wished to clarify this throughly since all rooting methods have a precautionary message regarding this.
From what I know:
1. OTA updates are "only" firmware updates.
What I am confused about:
Considering my above assumption of it being only a firmware update to be right
1. Does OTA update refer to only certain methods of firmware installation?
2.Are there methods to permanently disable it such that only intentional manual procedure will cause it to happen ( E.g: System settings)
Thanks in advance :good:
nashnir said:
I am a little confused about what constitues an OTA update and wished to clarify this throughly since all rooting methods have a precautionary message regarding this.
From what I know:
1. OTA updates are "only" firmware updates.
What I am confused about:
Considering my above assumption of it being only a firmware update to be right
1. Does OTA update refer to only certain methods of firmware installation?
2.Are there methods to permanently disable it such that only intentional manual procedure will cause it to happen ( E.g: System settings)
Thanks in advance :good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OTA updates will never install automatically, so take that off your worry list
1.) OTA updates are downloaded to the phone after you allow the download to proceed. Even if you accidentally click download, it will confirm with you again before rebooting the phone and installing it.
2.) If it does give you the notification, you can just long click the notification and Force Close the process. Then it won't bother you again until the next update comes out, or you choose to unroot and flash preroot, then update.
cmendonc2 said:
OTA updates will never install automatically, so take that off your worry list
1.) OTA updates are downloaded to the phone after you allow the download to proceed. Even if you accidentally click download, it will confirm with you again before rebooting the phone and installing it.
2.) If it does give you the notification, you can just long click the notification and Force Close the process. Then it won't bother you again until the next update comes out, or you choose to unroot and flash preroot, then update.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Rooted my device once then after unrooted after that ota update is not working How to fix this issue thank you
anas214812 said:
Rooted my device once then after unrooted after that ota update is not working How to fix this issue thank you
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Follow this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/general/guide-to-apply-ota-bootloop-rooted-zf2-t3127835
Related
Check out this link:
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-hero-update-confirmed-imminent-1852644/
Appears as though HTC are gonna address the lagginess expereinced by many (including myself) with an OTA update.
Those with root like me will not get the OTA update as ive read the firmware wont update on rooted phones. Im wondering whether people will put their chef hats on with the new update to create a rom based on it?
You could restore a backup from a point where you had not rooted your phone yet
It basically unroots itself that way.
ammurad said:
Check out this link:
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-hero-update-confirmed-imminent-1852644/
Appears as though HTC are gonna address the lagginess expereinced by many (including myself) with an OTA update.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That link makes no mention whatsoever that the update will be OTA - in fact, it says:
“HTC will be providing a software update for the HTC Hero, which will be available via the HTC website in the coming weeks.” HTC statement
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Via the website almost certainly means download and update manually. Being rooted shouldn't stop you applying the update, though you will probably lose root in the process.
Note that Google pushed OTA updates out for the G1, and the reason they didn't work on most rooted phones was because the procedure used to root the phone specifically switched off the OTA functionality to avoid the phone getting an update and losing root.
Regards,
Dave
It was confirmed prior to release that the Hero would be incapable of receiving OTA updates.
Ok thats useful information. We can just hope now that the update will get rid of the lag.
Someone needs to change the thread topic to
Hero update Iminent, but noT if you have ROOT!
ghoonk said:
Someone needs to change the thread topic to
Hero update Iminent, but noT if you have ROOT!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I thought it was only OTA updates that rooted phones couldn't recieve.
Biffert said:
You could restore a backup from a point where you had not rooted your phone yet
It basically unroots itself that way.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
correct me if i am wrong but even if you back up with nandroid before rooting , running the backup doesnt unroot your phone.
anyway, it is not a problem. all u have to do is just to flash the stock rom posted on this thread and then run the update if this is the case .
I don't think ROOTING is the problem. I think that some people, in the process of rooting, end up changing the recovery.img with test keys which the update may check against and prevent the update.
I updated mine using ADB and used fastboot, so I don't think I actually changed the recovery.img, so future updates will just see my phone as a 'normal' unbranded device (albeit with Superuser.apk and su.apk, and the HTC CIME)
After OTA update, We will get the Custom rom of Hero soon (Like in G1)
Hi,
I got a Gnex from Singapore singtel.
I didn't want to wait for OTA to 4.1.1 so I rooted and flashed JB 4.1.1
I am running the stock rom from google..
Now that 4.1.2 is released and lot of people seem to have got the OTA, I am yet to get my OTA ...
I am wondering if it is because of the Unlocking and rooting done to my device...
Does Unlocking bootloader and Rooting the device stop OTA update to 4.1.2?
Also pls tell me if you have got your OTA yet or not ...
[email protected]$#eR said:
Hi,
I got a Gnex from Singapore singtel.
I didn't want to wait for OTA to 4.1.1 so I rooted and flashed JB 4.1.1
I am running the stock rom from google..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you're running the stock ROM images from Google, then you didn't have to root. All you did was unlock the bootloader to flash those. If you rooted after, that was completely unnecessary to the process of switching.
(Sorry just a little pet peeve. People apparently have trouble grasping the difference between rooting and unlocking a bootloader, and the difference between a custom ROM and an official Google factory image.)
Now that 4.1.2 is released and lot of people seem to have got the OTA, I am yet to get my OTA ...
I am wondering if it is because of the Unlocking and rooting done to my device...
Does Unlocking bootloader and Rooting the device stop OTA update to 4.1.2?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
NO. Unlocking your bootloader and rooting does not at all stop your device from notifying you that an OTA is ready to download and install. I don't know how many times this has to be posted in these forums before people understand...
Unlocked bootloader does nothing to the OTA process.
Rooting on its own does nothing to the OTA process. If you've kept a custom recovery, the OTA will not install automatically. The custom recovery does give you the option to flash it manually if you'd like, and keep the custom recovery. If you've changed/removed any system files or flashed a different radio, that will prevent the OTA from applying both automatically and manually. If you've started to modify the device this much, you shouldn't be expecting OTAs to work (this is where a lot of "status 7" errors occur).
If you've rooted and returned to a stock recovery, you can let the OTA automatically install, but you will lose root. It takes ~5min to root again, no big deal. You can also try one of the popular apps that "saves" root while you OTA, like OTA Rootkeeper.
Also pls tell me if you have got your OTA yet or not ...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just because a couple dozen people on a forum have gotten the OTA doesn't mean that you should have gotten it already. Its a tad frustrating, but the OTA has a staggered roll out. It doesn't depend on your location or carrier (assuming you've got takju or yakju firmware from Google), and will get to all devices eventually.
If you'd simply point your browser to the general forum, you'll already see several threads talking about the 4.1.2 update.
Got my OTA update
I got my OTA update yesternight ...
New to rooting, but get the gist. Here are some easy questions I am seeking answers to. I just want to be double and triple sure of my assumptions:
1) I downloaded the newest OTA update, which of course is causing motochopper to fail. Can I simply reset to factory settings via hard reset and then refuse the OTA update and then run motochopper?
2) With OTA updates: Is there anything significant about this particular update that I would be missing out on?
3) Would I ever be ever to install latest updates pushed by my carrier in the future?
Thank you advance for helping me to clearly understand these things!
tfuse said:
New to rooting, but get the gist. Here are some easy questions I am seeking answers to. I just want to be double and triple sure of my assumptions:
1) I downloaded the newest OTA update, which of course is causing motochopper to fail. Can I simply reset to factory settings via hard reset and then refuse the OTA update and then run motochopper?
2) With OTA updates: Is there anything significant about this particular update that I would be missing out on?
3) Would I ever be ever to install latest updates pushed by my carrier in the future?
Thank you advance for helping me to clearly understand these things!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1. No hard reset wont undo ur update.
2. Less lag. Supposedly.
3. Yes if you stay on a stock rom.You probably wont want to since custom roms will most likely be more updated than ota official. Ex: we'll get custom android 5.0 before tmo sends it ota....maybe.
Sent from my SGH-M919 using xda app-developers app
Hi!
I got an M8 a few weeks ago, and regretfully wasn't thinking and allowed a few OTA updates.
So I was at firmware version 2.22.531.5, Android 4.4.3. There were 2 other OTA updates pending that I ignored because I realized that it may make it harder to root or s-off. I realize now I already performed the updates which would make Firewater not work.
I unlocked the bootloader, and flashed TWRP 2.8.0.1, then flashed the latest SuperSU.
Now the update notices stopped.
Few questions:
1. Does anyone know what updates beyond the version above were sent OTA, and how beneficial these updates are?
2. I'll probably get sunshine...but might wait. Can I install a different ROM without S-off?
3. Since I'm at 4.4.3, I may stay with stock until 4.5 (or whatever L is). But I definitely want to get some junk off the phone. I was going to use Titanium and uninstall a bunch of stuff... I have had a few HTC phones before and could identify what apps were part of the ROM framework, but it's not as easy to discern what apps I need to keep on this phone. Does anyone know of a thread that talks about what stock apps can be uninstalled? Or, in the alternative, if you have deleted apps, can you let me know which ones?
I know that's a lot of questions... Thank you in advance for any answers!
syntropic said:
Hi!
I got an M8 a few weeks ago, and regretfully wasn't thinking and allowed a few OTA updates.
So I was at firmware version 2.22.531.5, Android 4.4.3. There were 2 other OTA updates pending that I ignored because I realized that it may make it harder to root or s-off. I realize now I already performed the updates which would make Firewater not work.
I unlocked the bootloader, and flashed TWRP 2.8.0.1, then flashed the latest SuperSU.
Now the update notices stopped.
Few questions:
1. Does anyone know what updates beyond the version above were sent OTA, and how beneficial these updates are?
2. I'll probably get sunshine...but might wait. Can I install a different ROM without S-off?
3. Since I'm at 4.4.3, I may stay with stock until 4.5 (or whatever L is). But I definitely want to get some junk off the phone. I was going to use Titanium and uninstall a bunch of stuff... I have had a few HTC phones before and could identify what apps were part of the ROM framework, but it's not as easy to discern what apps I need to keep on this phone. Does anyone know of a thread that talks about what stock apps can be uninstalled? Or, in the alternative, if you have deleted apps, can you let me know which ones?
I know that's a lot of questions... Thank you in advance for any answers!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1, pretty sure that's latest update
2, u can still install custom roms etc. u won't be able to downgrade firmware/change variant of m8 without s off
3, Check HERE
Thank you!
I had one follow up question...
If I had just gone with sunshine from the start (and not gone with the token from HTC to unlock the bootloader), would I have still gotten OTA updates?
Which change (custom recovery, unlocked bootloader) stops the OTA updates?
Thanks to anyone again in advance!
syntropic said:
Thank you!
I had one follow up question...
If I had just gone with sunshine from the start (and not gone with the token from HTC to unlock the bootloader), would I have still gotten OTA updates?
Which change (custom recovery, unlocked bootloader) stops the OTA updates?
Thanks to anyone again in advance!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you would have been fine with OTA from the start, the following stops OTA updates:
custom recovery installed
missing system apps removed
incorrect firmware etc
You can freeze apps with Titanium, and if doing so doesn't cause any issues, go ahead and uninstall.
exocetdj said:
you would have been fine with OTA from the start, the following stops OTA updates:
custom recovery installed
missing system apps removed
incorrect firmware etc
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok...But before I read this, I was just going through settings and I checked the "check for updates" section, and it wants to install firmware version 2.22.531.6. So maybe if you are still using stock (despite installing custom recovery), you still get OTA updates?
The update sounds minor given it's incremental version (but tmous/HTC claims it's for important security updates), and I'd probably ignore it... But unfortunately, because I checked in the first place and perhaps because I'm on stock (minus a few apps I'm trying to delete: Amazon, Facebook, Kid Mode), for whatever reason the update reminder stays in my notifications and is pretty insistent.
Can I install this without calamity?
Thank you!
syntropic said:
Ok...But before I read this, I was just going through settings and I checked the "check for updates" section, and it wants to install firmware version 2.22.531.6. So maybe if you are still using stock (despite installing custom recovery), you still get OTA updates?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You will get the OTA notification just fine with custom recovery, and it will download as well. The problem is, when you go to install, OTA requires stock recovery and will fail when it doesn't find it. Might also bootloop looking for stock recovery, can't remember exactly.
redpoint73 said:
You will get the OTA notification just fine with custom recovery, and it will download as well. The problem is, when you go to install, OTA requires stock recovery and will fail when it doesn't find it. Might also bootloop looking for stock recovery, can't remember exactly.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh boy... So what's the solution? It finally downloaded on its own and is now pestering me to install. I don't want to deal with a bootloop. ****...
Can I delete the update from recovery, it just disable the updater and delete it?
What are my options? Thanks!!
syntropic said:
Oh boy... So what's the solution? It finally downloaded on its own and is now pestering me to install. I don't want to deal with a bootloop. ****...
Can I delete the update from recovery, it just disable the updater and delete it?
What are my options? Thanks!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The OTA zip should be in your download folder on internal memory, delete this then uncheck auto update checking and u should be without the constant notifications.
If you want to update, u will need to reinstall a fresh nand with all stock apps included
exocetdj said:
The OTA zip should be in your download folder on internal memory, delete this then uncheck auto update checking and u should be without the constant notifications.
If you want to update, u will need to reinstall a fresh nand with all stock apps included
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think I'm going to do this (install nand). I am going to get sunshine/s-off, then flash fresh stock RUU... will I still need to then lock bootloader?
Could you just give me a short list of steps to do this? I want to lock bootloader with s-off because I want get the @$&)!& HTC free 100GB Google Drive promo and all the updates.
I really appreciate it Archer...
No problem
1, sunshine s off
2, Flash relevant nand/firmware
3, use this guide to stock lock (not relock) bootloader HERE
4, u will have a stock m8 with S off ready for future OTAs (remember not to remove any apps preinstalled in the nand)
not sure of the 100GB promo as i use dropbox lol :silly::highfive::good:
---------- Post added at 03:07 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:06 PM ----------
syntropic said:
I think I'm going to do this (install nand). I am going to get sunshine/s-off, then flash fresh stock RUU... will I still need to then lock bootloader?
Could you just give me a short list of steps to do this? I want to lock bootloader with s-off because I want get the @$&)!& HTC free 100GB Google Drive promo and all the updates.
I really appreciate it Archer...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
see above buddy
exocetdj said:
see above buddy
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Cool... And I have read that as long as you do it that way (using echo -ne '\x00....' and not "fastboot oem lock" when in fastboot mode with adb running) you will get "***LOCKED***" back and not RELOCKED.
When it's RELOCKED Google can't confirm your information so the promo won't work...But if locked, you can do it.
Now I just have to do it all..
Thanks!!
syntropic said:
Cool... And I have read that as long as you do it that way (using echo -ne '\x00....' and not "fastboot oem lock" when in fastboot mode with adb running) you will get "***LOCKED***" back and not RELOCKED.
When it's RELOCKED Google can't confirm your information so the promo won't work...But if locked, you can do it.
Now I just have to do it all..
Thanks!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
U are all set dude
Hi I just wanted some confirmation that unlocking bootloader doesn't block me from getting OTA updates from Google, since I haven't gotten an OTA for the latest build yet (The May update). I'm hoping this is only cause I'm in India and it hasn't pushed to us yet. I've enrolled in the Android Beta Program to test if OTA is really broken (since it sends an OTA with the Android N image.)
I haven't modified anything, I tried flashing TWRP but it didn't stick cause I didn't know I had to go into the recovery and modify the system/boot, so I still have the stock android recovery.
Any confirmation will give me a lot of peace of mind, cause I value getting OTAs and not having to manually flash it. If it has indeed been broken, I want to know if relocking would fix it and if relocking would wipe data again. Thanks for your help
EDIT: Just got the OTA for the N preview, so I guess it's just a roll out thing then. Just want to leave this here for anyone else who's new to nexus devices and was wondering the same.
AnrgKrshn said:
Hi I just wanted some confirmation that unlocking bootloader doesn't block me from getting OTA updates from Google, since I haven't gotten an OTA for the latest build yet (The May update). I'm hoping this is only cause I'm in India and it hasn't pushed to us yet. I've enrolled in the Android Beta Program to test if OTA is really broken (since it sends an OTA with the Android N image.
I haven't modified anything, I tried flashing TWRP but it didn't stick cause I didn't know I had to go into the recovery and modify the system/boot, so I still have the stock android recovery.
Any confirmation will give me a lot of peace of mind, cause I value getting OTAs and not having to manually flash it. If it has indeed been broken, I want to know if relocking would fix it and if relocking would wipe data again. Thanks for your help
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Simply having an unlocked bootloader won't stop you from receiving OTAs. I don't believe they've even began pushing the OTA for the May update.
brholt6 said:
Simply having an unlocked bootloader won't stop you from receiving OTAs. I don't believe they've even began pushing the OTA for the May update.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just saw this after I posted my edit lol. Thanks for the confirmation
Will the ota work with systemless root?
94SupraTT said:
Will the ota work with systemless root?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You need to flash stock boot and recovery images to receive it or alternatively use chainfires flashfire app.