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I want to leave my phone rooted, but I want ICS when it comes out...

So I recently found out I'm unable to install OTA Android updates to my phone if it's rooted.
So what can I do once ICS is released for the GS2? Will there be a download online that I can just flash with ODIN? Or are people going to be forced to unroot if they want the official ICS stock?

Most likely samfirmware aka sammobile will release an odin .tar, so you'll be good to go with odin.
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saj1jr said:
So I recently found out I'm unable to install OTA Android updates to my phone if it's rooted.
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That's not true. You will be unable to install OTA patch-style updates if you have modified one of the files being patched. If you rooted with Auto Root and that's all you did, you will be able to install OTA patch-style updates even without unrooting (though the update will disable root)
saj1jr said:
So what can I do once ICS is released for the GS2? Will there be a download online that I can just flash with ODIN? Or are people going to be forced to unroot if they want the official ICS stock?
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I'm sure there will be an ODIN update within a few days or maybe even the same day. You can also flash EK02 and let the OTA update upgrade you (or if you've just rooted with Auto Root, just let the OTA update run), though you are probably better off waiting for an update from XDA, because the updates from here will attempt to keep your rooting and upgrade options as open as possible.
I'll also probably have an OTA compliance check for the next official update so you can tell immediately which files are not in compliance with what the update expects. I have one for EG30 to EK02 as part of the Auto Root package, so it would be similar in functionality.

First rule: Never take an OTA update if you care about rooting.
Any file made available from sprint or samsung will have a rooted/safe version posted in the dev section within a few hours of release.
I know samsung is pretty nice to us rooters but you never know when that might change.

lafester said:
First rule: Never take an OTA update if you care about rooting.
Any file made available from sprint or samsung will have a rooted/safe version posted in the dev section within a few hours of release.
I know samsung is pretty nice to us rooters but you never know when that might change.
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Is there a way to block OTAs? I'm running Calkulin's 2.8 if that matters.

Relax427 said:
Is there a way to block OTAs? I'm running Calkulin's 2.8 if that matters.
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There is a thread on blocking them in the wiki, provided here for your ease.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1388778
If you are worried about the OTA messing something up, it'll download and ask to install, but if you've made any changes to your ROM, including installing CWM, then it will fail the integrity check and won't install, so nothing will change.

I don't understand the OP's dilemma. Just wait a couple of hours after the OTA update and get a rooted version of the update... no problem!

It won't be out for a few more months anyways. It isn't even being tested yet. I doubt an initial build is even at Samsung. They are working on the the Galaxy S2 right now(the GSM overseas version). And, I am sure Sprint will sell some other phone with ICS stock before they update ours.

Newbie Questions

Hi guys
I have some newbie ques.
1) Will i be able to update my phone after rooting with kis, or atleast inbuilt update.
2) With Odin, can i use software updates of some other region/country? Is updating with Odin safe and firmwares are stock?
Please answer these questions. Thanks in advance.

Jaskaran498 said:
Hi guys
I have some newbie ques.
1) Will i be able to update my phone after rooting with kis, or atleast inbuilt update.
2) With Odin, can i use software updates of some other region/country? Is updating with Odin safe and firmwares are stock?
Please answer these questions. Thanks in advance.
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1) once you root you can no longer apply system updates from Sprint, the developer of the ROM you select will update their stuff with the newest version available; so you'll flash an update that way.
2) You must use software created for ONLY the Sprint SGS3 phone; if you attempt to do other wise you'll end up with a pretty paper weight.
2a) Odin is pretty safe; there is ALWAYS a chance of unpleasantness with any 3rd party tools however
2b) there are 100% stock firmwares available to odin if you wish to return to a stock phone. there is a thread for them in the development section.
Hope that helps some

jdelano said:
1) once you root you can no longer apply system updates from Sprint, the developer of the ROM you select will update their stuff with the newest version available; so you'll flash an update that way.
2) You must use software created for ONLY the Sprint SGS3 phone; if you attempt to do other wise you'll end up with a pretty paper weight.
2a) Odin is pretty safe; there is ALWAYS a chance of unpleasantness with any 3rd party tools however
2b) there are 100% stock firmwares available to odin if you wish to return to a stock phone. there is a thread for them in the development section.
Hope that helps some
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Thanks buddy:laugh
+1
One more question, i overclocked my phone to 1.8GHZ.
Can you please give me link to original kernel if i want to return back.

Troubleshooting Guide & FAQ: Updating stock ROM

Hi guys,
I saw many threads popping up in the Q & A section about applying updates on a stock rooted ROM. So i though it would be helpul if i shared my experiences and also clear some misconceptions.
This Thread mainly applies for those looking to upgrade from 2.09 to the recent 2.22/2.24 ! It may or may not work for any previous updates.
Q) My phone is rooted, Bootloader unlocked and CWM installed. How do i update to 2.22?
Ans.)
1) Backup your root using Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper.
2) Flash the stock recovery for your area using the All in one kit (or you can use the command line if you're familiar).
3) Download the update, click install, sit back and enjoy !
ITS that simple.
Q) What do i do if i cant find stock recovery for my latest version?
Ans) The recovery does not seem to have changed from version 1.56 to 2.09. You can flash the older recovery provided, you've checked your region is correct.
Q) Do i need to re-lock my bootloader for the update to take place?
Ans) NO! You don't need to re-lock anything. It updates perfectly fine with unlocked bootloader. Just flash Stock recovery !
Q) Do i lose my apps/settings/cache?
Ans) Since its an OTA from HTC, you retain everyhting!
Q) Will i lose my root if i update?
Ans) You will! Thats exactly why you're advised to backup your root.
Q) My updates fails with a red triangle and exclamation mark, what did i do wrong?
Ans) You need to understand that during the update, several stock apps are patched. If any of these STOCK APPS ( the ones that came with ya new phone) are uninstalled/frozen/meddled with, an error will pop up.
Q) How do i identify the cause of the error?
Ans) When the red triangle pops up, press the Volume UP, Volume DOWN and LOCK keys at the same time for a second and release. You should see the cause of your error. Try to restore/unfreeze the app thats causing the error. If that is not possible, try posting your error here to see if experts here can help.
All the stock recoveries can be found on this forum. If however u've a doubt, i'd be happy to help.
This guide is not perfect and may contain errors ( i've tried to make it complete to the best of my knowledge). I'm open to suggestions and questions

shubhamsizzles said:
Hi guys,
I saw many threads popping up in the Q & A section about applying updates on a stock rooted ROM. So i though it would be helpul if i shared my experiences and also clear some misconceptions.
This Thread mainly applies for those looking to upgrade from 2.09 to the recent 2.22/2.24 ! It may or may not work for any previous updates.
Q) My phone is rooted, Bootloader unlocked and CWM installed. How do i update to 2.22?
Ans.)
1) Backup your root using Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper.
2) Flash the stock recovery for your area using the All in one kit (or you can use the command line if you're familiar).
3) Download the update, click install, sit back and enjoy !
ITS that simple.
Q) What do i do if i cant find stock recovery for my latest version?
Ans) The recovery does not seem to have changed from version 1.56 to 2.09. You can flash the older recovery provided, you've checked your region is correct.
Q) Do i need to re-lock my bootloader for the update to take place?
Ans) NO! You don't need to re-lock anything. It updates perfectly fine with unlocked bootloader. Just flash Stock recovery !
Q) Do i lose my apps/settings/cache?
Ans) Since its an OTA from HTC, you retain everyhting!
Q) Will i lose my root if i update?
Ans) You will! Thats exactly why you're advised to backup your root.
Q) My updates fails with a red triangle and exclamation mark, what did i do wrong?
Ans) You need to understand that during the update, several stock apps are patched. If any of these STOCK APPS ( the ones that came with ya new phone) are uninstalled/frozen/meddled with, an error will pop up.
Q) How do i identify the cause of the error?
Ans) When the red triangle pops up, press the Volume UP, Volume DOWN and LOCK keys at the same time for a second and release. You should see the cause of your error. Try to restore/unfreeze the app thats causing the error. If that is not possible, try posting your error here to see if experts here can help.
All the stock recoveries can be found on this forum. If however u've a doubt, i'd be happy to help.
This guide is not perfect and may contain errors ( i've tried to make it complete to the best of my knowledge). I'm open to suggestions and questions
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Hi, thanks for the super explanations - last two really helped me - at least I found the reason why my phone does not want to Updates.
I send thanks to your instructions displayed mistake - I phone from T-Mobile Czech and the application of course I deleted it - it is useless.
Do you know if this can be downloaded somewhere, possibly where I got all this ROM mentioned in the error? I deleted more applications, so it probably will want to install these
I watched a lot of the internet, but I found none.
Sorry for my English ...

Well, if you made a backup if the current Rom/apps, then just extract and install the apps. Or else, I think you can extract the app from ruu if your version. You'll have to do it for each of the apps you uninstalled. That's gonna be a hell of a job, if u ask me.
I think its better you stick to the current software, or of you really wanna update, reset your phone via ruu. And then update.
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Is firmware update worth it?

To the Community:
I just today received a note from T-Mobile Update Service that there's an update available. Of course being rooted it's not available to me OTA.
I plugged in my phone to Kies and the update that's available is from
Current firmware version: PDA:LK8 / PHONE:LK8 / CSC:LK8 (TMB)
to
Latest firmware version: PDA:LL4 / PHONE:LL4 / CSC:LL4 (TMB)
When I clicked on UPGRADE FIRMWARE I got a caution that read, "Devices that have been rooted or modified with customized software may experience a failure during the upgrade process."
So I have a couple of questions:
1. is this upgrade worth it?
2. should I unroot / Triangle Away / etc. and go through that rigamarole or should I risk proceeding with Kies? (As long as I don't brick my phone I have no problem recovering / restoring / etc.)
4. if I don't do anything, how can I get rid of the reminder-to-update icon in the notification bar?
Thanks in advance.

actually its not worth upgrading so consider carefully before you want to do so

Latest OTA update patches the exynous exploit. I would say yes it is worth updating.
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda app-developers app

ciphercodes said:
Latest OTA update patches the exynous exploit. I would say yes it is worth updating.
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda app-developers app
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Yeah I think I agree. I thought about the upgrade, then let it go ahead. That being said, have you seen what Verizon have been up to? Really screwing with rooted users IMHO. That's why I am not too quick to update, just in case it can be a negative upgrade.

If you are already rooted and are using SuperSu, then there is a setting called "survivor mode" which will attempt to retain root even after an update. I checked this box, updated and still have root. Yet another option is ti use an app from the android market called OTA Rootkeeper which essentially does the same thing.

I don't think the update is worth it. ExynosAbuse also fixes the security flaw. So I have root and a secure phone. Also I don't care much for multi window. I will however updated whenever LTE is enabled. Well, I might wait till LTE is rolled into Cyanogen first then upgrade to that.

Supermighty said:
I don't think the update is worth it. ExynosAbuse also fixes the security flaw. So I have root and a secure phone. Also I don't care much for multi window. I will however updated whenever LTE is enabled. Well, I might wait till LTE is rolled into Cyanogen first then upgrade to that.
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But doesn't the ExynosAbuse mess up the camera when it is disabled in the app? And if you don't disable it then you only have root without the protection. I was in this situation and just did the update with OTA rootkeeper. I maintained root and my device status is still normal. See this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2111188

GMAN1722 said:
But doesn't the ExynosAbuse mess up the camera when it is disabled in the app? And if you don't disable it then you only have root without the protection. I was in this situation and just did the update with OTA rootkeeper. I maintained root and my device status is still normal. See this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2111188
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messing up the camera as far as I know is only on the Galaxy SIII. the note II's camera has no problems with the fix- there's no reason at all not to use it.

theoilman said:
messing up the camera as far as I know is only on the Galaxy SIII. the note II's camera has no problems with the fix- there's no reason at all not to use it.
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From reading this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2052656 there were a few reports of the camera not working correctly when the exploit was disabled

Supermighty said:
I don't think the update is worth it. ExynosAbuse also fixes the security flaw.
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Chainfire did a really good job providing a temporary solution to take care of this exploit via exynos abuse application but this vulnerability was within the kernel and this had to be fixed via kernel update. The new update patches this vulnerability at kernel level making sure no other functions are affected by it.
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda app-developers app

[Qwaswas windingwasUOTE=whatllitbenext;37061997]To the Community:
I just today received a note from T-Mobile Update Service that there's an update available. Of course being rooted it's not available to me OTA.
I plugged in my phone to Kies and the update that's available is from
Current firmware version: PDA:LK8 / PHONE:LK8 / CSC:LK8 (TMB)
to
Latest firmware version: PDA:LL4 / PHONE:LL4 / CSC:LL4 (TMB)
When I clicked on UPGRADE FIRMWARE I got a caution that read, "Devices that have been rooted or modified with customized software may experience a failure during the upgrade process."
So I have a couple of questions:
1. is this upgrade worth it?
2. should I unroot / Triangle Away / etc. and go through that rigamarole or should I risk proceeding with Kies? (As long as I don't brick my phone I have no problem recovering / restoring / etc.)
4. if I don't do anything, how can I get rid of the reminder-to-update icon in the notification bar?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
I was wondering the same thing. I am stock/rooted. I wanted to keep root but be up to date. I found over on the q&a forum to use Voodoo OTA Root Keeper. And do the update OTA instead of using KIES. This worked like charm and made me extremely happy. Quick and easy.

ExynosAbuse messed up my camera at any rate. YMMV. The update worked fine for me. OTA Rootkeeper and restored root just fine after.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement

[Q] What constitutes an OTA update?

I am a little confused about what constitues an OTA update and wished to clarify this throughly since all rooting methods have a precautionary message regarding this.
From what I know:
1. OTA updates are "only" firmware updates.
What I am confused about:
Considering my above assumption of it being only a firmware update to be right
1. Does OTA update refer to only certain methods of firmware installation?
2.Are there methods to permanently disable it such that only intentional manual procedure will cause it to happen ( E.g: System settings)
Thanks in advance :good:

nashnir said:
I am a little confused about what constitues an OTA update and wished to clarify this throughly since all rooting methods have a precautionary message regarding this.
From what I know:
1. OTA updates are "only" firmware updates.
What I am confused about:
Considering my above assumption of it being only a firmware update to be right
1. Does OTA update refer to only certain methods of firmware installation?
2.Are there methods to permanently disable it such that only intentional manual procedure will cause it to happen ( E.g: System settings)
Thanks in advance :good:
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OTA updates will never install automatically, so take that off your worry list
1.) OTA updates are downloaded to the phone after you allow the download to proceed. Even if you accidentally click download, it will confirm with you again before rebooting the phone and installing it.
2.) If it does give you the notification, you can just long click the notification and Force Close the process. Then it won't bother you again until the next update comes out, or you choose to unroot and flash preroot, then update.

cmendonc2 said:
OTA updates will never install automatically, so take that off your worry list
1.) OTA updates are downloaded to the phone after you allow the download to proceed. Even if you accidentally click download, it will confirm with you again before rebooting the phone and installing it.
2.) If it does give you the notification, you can just long click the notification and Force Close the process. Then it won't bother you again until the next update comes out, or you choose to unroot and flash preroot, then update.
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Rooted my device once then after unrooted after that ota update is not working How to fix this issue thank you

anas214812 said:
Rooted my device once then after unrooted after that ota update is not working How to fix this issue thank you
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Follow this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/general/guide-to-apply-ota-bootloop-rooted-zf2-t3127835