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Numerous "posters" have taken the habit of commenting without showing their signature.
I find this very disturbing as you do not know what they are referring to.
May I please suggest you put everywhere a STICKY reminder?
Keep up your b..... good site, Have a nice day and God Bless.
Mmmmm
Yes! it must be a rule... instead nobody read the rules..... but when we have time to attend those who has problems or opinions, we dont have enough info... maybe if they has it in their signatures, we have less posts unnecesary so it would be great that in login claim for fill these info with obligatory (*), before gain the access to the forum threads... what would you say?
and of course a request for the one who dont have and is new... thanks for read mods.
wait what are you talking about?
do you mean people are not showing their signatures (those little things at the the bottom of each post)? I suppose not showing it could be a problem if they reference it, but is that what you are talking about?
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Mr Mikechannon: (Or do I need to say: sorry SR!! but...I think...)
I like you to see some day the upgrade forum for HTC Wizard its full of people that bricks their wizards... why... cause he dont understands what he got on his hands...
For wizard is very important to know wich model to get the proper ROM if dont knows nothing about it...
This info is very usefull not comfort for the ones who answer questions and provides help or support... Never... its a pleasure can helps but then they starts to blame about this kind of thing... I know it doesnt matter but its so sad to read it.
Just read a little that has problems with dead or bricked wizards.
Examples
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2691375&posted=1#post2691375
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427868
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429554
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428497
And so much more...
I know this is a hughe site, or tell us where to post to be able to ask for change the login info and make the user insert his info corectly.
Maybe I imagine this like an utopy but could be amazing have this kind of info by default.
Thanks just for read us GENERAL!!!!!
i see...
the thing is, alot of the problems in some of the other forums are not necessarily rom related, and rom questions could probably be better answered posting in the rom's thread.
despite what some may think, most problems are universal regardless of rom, at least in my experience.
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Mr Mikechannon: (Or do I need to say: sorry SR!! but...I think...)
I like you to see some day the upgrade forum for HTC Wizard its full of people that bricks their wizards... why... cause he dont understands what he got on his hands...
For wizard is very important to know wich model to get the proper ROM if dont knows nothing about it...
This info is very usefull not comfort for the ones who answer questions and provides help or support... Never... its a pleasure can helps but then they starts to blame about this kind of thing... I know it doesnt matter but its so sad to read it.
Just read a little that has problems with dead or bricked wizards.
Examples
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2691375&posted=1#post2691375
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427868
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429554
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428497
And so much more...
I know this is a hughe site, or tell us where to post to be able to ask for change the login info and make the user insert his info corectly.
Maybe I imagine this like an utopy but could be amazing have this kind of info by default.
Thanks just for read us GENERAL!!!!!
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I see your point, but you can't make certain info mandatory for users. Most of the time when users post a "problem with device" type thread, they usually mention which it is. For the Wizard users that don't specify which model, it doesn't mean much except they never knew there were differences from the beginning most likely. Just point out the differences and most will catch on.
Nice try...
Already tried so... i think that we need to make a sticky likely thread saying!!!!
Y'ALL!!! Put your info device on your Signature before post!!!!
Maybe they can read it with hughe words.
I'm very sorry but as good a practice as it is we cannot enforce people to do so, adding a sticky would clutter most forums as most of the time there are already multiple stickies there.
The best you can do is suggest to people to put in their signature or post whenever they feel it's relevant.
Best regards,
Flar
Site admin
MY GOD!
Is SHE FLAR!!!?
Its Like GOD answering our question!!!?
Thanks a lot!!!... Im gona post a Sticky on every topic of Wizards forum, can I do it with hughe Words???? maybe inside of it... instructions to fill the signature with the info We need... thanks God... sorry... Flar...
+ Que PPC said:
Is SHE FLAR!!!?
Its Like GOD answering our question!!!?
Thanks a lot!!!... Im gona post a Sticky on every topic of Wizards forum, can I do it with hughe Words???? maybe inside of it... instructions to fill the signature with the info We need... thanks God... sorry... Flar...
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The Mods have to sticky your thread.
Geez, how nit-picky can you get??
I can understand the frustration of people who ask without searching or reading first. I've completely customized first my mogul, then my diamond.... and by spending far too many hours searching & reading (according to my husband.....)
I can also understand the frustration of newbies poking around in the dev areas.
But this is over the top.
Out of all those hours spent reading & searching, I've never seen a requirement to post a sig. Wouldn't apply to me anyway.... I don't flash ROMs. Personally, I don't pay attention to who is using what rom in their sig. I only pay attention to what links are there.
BTW, I never paid attention to it before, but it appears that the admin & mods don't do it either. So why the beef?
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nursie said:
Geez, how nit-picky can you get??
I can understand the frustration of people who ask without searching or reading first. I've completely customized first my mogul, then my diamond.... and by spending far too many hours searching & reading (according to my husband.....)
I can also understand the frustration of newbies poking around in the dev areas.
But this is over the top.
Out of all those hours spent reading & searching, I've never seen a requirement to post a sig. Wouldn't apply to me anyway.... I don't flash ROMs. Personally, I don't pay attention to who is using what rom in their sig. I only pay attention to what links are there.
BTW, I never paid attention to it before, but it appears that the admin & mods don't do it either. So why the beef?
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Please any MOd can make stickie this threads the permisson was gave me by flar. so soryy if its repeated but we need to stops the problem...
Thanks For all Mods and ADMS.
the links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430402
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430397
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430399
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430400
Thanks The ChampJT i forgot to advise to make it stickie-
Nursie I dont know nothing about Mogul but maybe the time you have xpended probably would be less tahn you took but answer without info is hard, and because the web is so hughe, your husband is a knowledge of comun sense, happy to obligate to read and read isnt it?
So this is why i did it, hope some body in every Device that has problems with version and Bricked too do this.
Thanks for all.
+ Que PPC said:
Already done...
Please any MOd can make stickie this threads the permisson was gave me by flar. so soryy if its repeated but we need to stops the problem...
Thanks For all Mods and ADMS.
the links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430402
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430397
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430399
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430400
Thanks The ChampJT i forgot to advise to make it stickie-
Nursie I dont know nothing about Mogul but maybe the time you have xpended probably would be less tahn you took but answer without info is hard, and because the web is so hughe, your husband is a knowledge of comun sense, happy to obligate to read and read isnt it?
So this is why i did it, hope some body in every Device that has problems with version and Bricked too do this.
Thanks for all.
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I'm not sure Flar was giving permission, I think she was just saying that the best way to pass info to majority of the users is through stickies, but it may not be possible due to forums already being cluttered.
The theory is sound to add info to your sig but as with so many others in this forum I have a pile of previous devices and if I listed them all in my sig with all the relevent data, my sig would be longer than the message!
Plus, it would need changing every time I tried a ROM or added a supplier update/patch, I wonder how many have reflashed a ROM and not remembered to change their sig??
Also for the data to have some meaning you would need to include all software installed (interaction problems) and ever reg edit/Tweak they have added/removed. The list could be endless!
Its much easier for members just to try and remember to add the details in the message body when asking about problems with their device.
HTC Universal
HTC Startrek
HTC Wizard
HTC Hermes
HTC TytynII
HTC Touch Pro
HTC Shift
And still have them all...
I think the problem here is people not knowing how to ask for help. "Won't let me flash a ROM" and "Active Sync doesn't work" do not explain what the issue is. As a follower of Raymond Chen's blog and his war on people to ask the correct questions when requesting email support, there are a few things that should be mentioned in every request for help:
Specify the problem: What is the error, full details, error codes, message dialogs, etc. Or if there is no error, what did you expect to happen, why is something not working as intended.
What did you do: What steps have you followed to get to the problem (how to re-created it). And what steps have you taken to rectify the issue your self.
What is your environment: What phone are you using, what version of the software are you using, ROM version, radio / SPL / IPL, Windows version. Some of these are not applicable, but anything relevant should be listed. List other software you think could be contra-indicating.
This list is by no means exhaustive and of course, the standard Forum Rules on searching, duplicate posting, etc. should be followed. With this information, most people should have a clear idea of the issue and can offer the best help they can without having a long dicussion on all of the above points.
I take my hat off to the members that can answer questions without this information, they have amazing guess work.
Thanks
Dave
YES!!!
Everyone has good ideas, so forgive me for missunderstood the Flars answer... do what ever to help people efficiently.
Its our dont pay job.
But Im proud of it... yes getting all the info for you devices will be hard to put in 500 characters so... ask everytime.
i will edit the thread about the permission.
Hey guys sorry to be a total noob but we all have to start somewhere. I have preordered the evo from RS and this will be my first smart phone. I really have no exp with aps or what these phones can do.
I guess what I am wondering is what is rooting and why is it useful.
Thanks again in advance. I apologize for my ignorance on this topic.
great post for the Q&A section.
someone will correct my terminology, but "root" gives the user access to the base level of the system files so that they can be modified by the user and allow us to do things like flash custom roms and tweak settings, and much more.
This goes into the Q & A section not the devlopment section!
People thinking before hitting the post button!
sorry bout that
Sorry I thought I was in the Q&A section my mistake sorry will repost there.
sasigns said:
Hey guys sorry to be a total noob but we all have to start somewhere. I have preordered the evo from RS and this will be my first smart phone. I really have no exp with aps or what these phones can do.
I guess what I am wondering is what is rooting and why is it useful.
Thanks again in advance. I apologize for my ignorance on this topic.
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well, welcome to the fold. Rooting an android device will allow you to use certain programs that will allow you to make backup images (in case something happens to your phone you can restore it to how it was), and run costumed ROMS (new flavors of Android usually taken from bits and pieces of other devices to make one super device lol ) I'm sure I'm missing other things but that's the main part, you will also be able to do functions of your phone *cough* tethering *cough* that are usually disabled by default.
Thread moved to Q&A.
lol @ this thread for fun
Can someone PM or post here a dump of your /system/app from the root of your phone? Specifically only from a STOCK setup. I don't want your personal apps or information. I am only actually looking for what should be something like ATTAPNLib.apk attapnpermission.apk and ATTAPNService.apk
Thanks in advance guys!
Anyone?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1724451
If you would please do a better search next time. There are 62 threads in the att development forum. While this was close to the bottom, it was there. Have a nice day and happy flashing.
Oh, I'm sorry, I guess I didn't ask for something specifically enough for you. Take my post and search for what I asked. I'll wait...
Now that my point has been proven, at least you didn't act like an ass like most members here do.
Thanks anyway.
Nothing I needed in those dumps, just as I suspected. I need a direct pull from an AT&T phone.
I have an AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II (SGH-i777) - Before I rooted it, I had ICS installed via Kies...and found this guide - http://galaxys2root.com/galaxy-s2-root/how-to-root-ics-on-att-galaxy-s2-sgh-i777/ - that showed me how to root it. After I rooted it, when the phone booted up, it showed the logo as normal but also GT-i9100 which is a different version of the S II to my knowledge. It also had a yellow triangle at the bottom. The phone worked great, but was very confused as to why it showed GT-i9100 on the boot. However, long story short...I tried ROM manager which I regret to this day. It screwed up the phone resulting me into looking through these forums to find a fix. I did on this forum - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1619571 - It solved my problem and got the phone to turn back on. Only this time, I still get the GT-i900, a different animated boot screen that has never been there before - and now a non-functioning back arrow soft key. Only my menu, home and search icons work...not the arrow. I assume this is because now the phone now thinks its a GT-i9100 and not SGH-i777 - Question is how do I go back to SGH-i777 so i can start ALL OVER AGAIN!
I will preface by saying that I'm still a noob, but i think i can offer some preliminary guidance.
First off, your problems were caused by three separate things you did that were incorrect. Using anything from galaxys2root is a bad idea. In the short time I've been here I've already seen countess posts from people who brick their phones by following the instructions there. On the future, stay away from that site and stick with xda.You will have a lot more success
Using rom manager is also a terrible idea with our phones. It doesn't work well with the I777. There are also lots of posts here from people who have done the same thing.
Finally, the thread you linked where you found the solution to your problem is from the 9100 forum, which is a different phone than the 777. That is why your back key doesn't work and why your phone won't boot. The rom you flashed is for a different phone.
It sounds as if you simply need to start over but using the right files - but don't trust me on this. you need to wait for more knowledgeable users to make sure you don't do anything to make things worse. The problem is you posted in the wrong forum, so not sure the right people will see this...should have posted in the I777 forum.
I'm not completely sure what the proper etiquette is at this point to get a fast answer. I'd suggest one of two things: ask a mod to move your thread to the I777 forum or better yet, delete this thread, and post on the I777 q&a forum (Make sure you delete this thread first however, because double-posting will get you in trouble here )
Good luck. There are a lot of very knowledgeable people here, one of them should be able to help you.
wgoldfarb said:
I will preface by saying that I'm still a noob, but i think i can offer some preliminary guidance.
First off, your problems were caused by three separate things you did that were incorrect. Using anything from galaxys2root is a bad idea. In the short time I've been here I've already seen countess posts from people who brick their phones by following the instructions there. On the future, stay away from that site and stick with xda.You will have a lot more success
Using rom manager is also a terrible idea with our phones. It doesn't work well with the I777. There are also lots of posts here from people who have done the same thing.
Finally, the thread you linked where you found the solution to your problem is from the 9100 forum, which is a different phone than the 777. That is why your back key doesn't work and why your phone won't boot. The rom you flashed is for a different phone.
It sounds as if you simply need to start over but using the right files - but don't trust me on this. you need to wait for more knowledgeable users to make sure you don't do anything to make things worse. The problem is you posted in the wrong forum, so not sure the right people will see this...should have posted in the I777 forum.
I'm not completely sure what the proper etiquette is at this point to get a fast answer. I'd suggest one of two things: ask a mod to move your thread to the I777 forum or better yet, delete this thread, and post on the I777 q&a forum (Make sure you delete this thread first however, because double-posting will get you in trouble here )
Good luck. There are a lot of very knowledgeable people here, one of them should be able to help you.
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I appreciate the help. I will re move this thread and re post it if the solution 'I think" im on does not work. If you could do me a huge solid though...send me a message explaining galaxys2root. Thanks again
Not sure what i could explain about galaxys2root. i first saw the site as i was googling on ways to root my phone. Their "recipe" approach to "just click here and you are done" left me feeling uncomfortable because i wanted to understand what i was doing to my phone, and they don't really explain much. So, i moved on, found xda, and stayed here. I have seen countess posts here at xda from people who did follow the instructions there and then came here asking for help because they ended up with bricked phones. Yours was the second or third such thread just today!
I'm sure if you search the forums here for galaxys2root you will find lots more info.
I hope you solve your problem!
This is a serious question. I'm not trolling, flaming, or anything else you might think.
I really don't understand how to get a question(s) answered on this site. I don't care how much or how little information I give it is never answered. I will google my questions, search the forums, read and reread developer threads and even search youtube to try to find my answers. When all else fails, I post here. Never have any of my questions been answered.
I would really love some advice on this considering I'm a noob at most of this rooting stuff and I have some questions. I don't want someone to hold my hand or anything like that. I just want some helpful links or advice.
If anyone could tell me how I should word my posts so they would be answered I would be so appreciative.
Again I am not trying to be rude, I have the utmost respect for the mods and developers here. I just don't know what I am doing wrong to never get questions answered.
I'm sure you can understand how frustrating it is to come home after work and look back at a post hoping for an answer and nothing is there other than a locked thread. I don't want to be that person that annoyingly keeps reposting something over and over. I just want to learn what I am doing wrong, fix it, and hopefully help others out when I learn from my own mistakes.
Moved to About XDA.
Well the key is to post in the right section, if its a device question post in that devices sub forum so other users see it.
Its possible if your asking in a low activity sub forum then it will not get answered
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Sellesstis said:
This is a serious question. I'm not trolling, flaming, or anything else you might think.
I really don't understand how to get a question(s) answered on this site. I don't care how much or how little information I give it is never answered. I will google my questions, search the forums, read and reread developer threads and even search youtube to try to find my answers. When all else fails, I post here. Never have any of my questions been answered.
I would really love some advice on this considering I'm a noob at most of this rooting stuff and I have some questions. I don't want someone to hold my hand or anything like that. I just want some helpful links or advice.
If anyone could tell me how I should word my posts so they would be answered I would be so appreciative.
Again I am not trying to be rude, I have the utmost respect for the mods and developers here. I just don't know what I am doing wrong to never get questions answered.
I'm sure you can understand how frustrating it is to come home after work and look back at a post hoping for an answer and nothing is there other than a locked thread. I don't want to be that person that annoyingly keeps reposting something over and over. I just want to learn what I am doing wrong, fix it, and hopefully help others out when I learn from my own mistakes.
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Just my suggestions to get your posts answered:
1. Extensive searching before posting:
Maybe you are not the first one with this question or issue.
Search for other users posted the same or similar problem and look if they got propper answers.
2. If you can not find anybody else asked the same or similar question, then search for descriptions/explanations which might solve your issue.
Maybe the answer is already there (even without an explicit question).
3. If neither the question nor the answer can be found, then you have to find the proper place for posting your question.
Is there a forum for your device, then go to that forum.
Is there a dedicated Question & Answer (Q&A) sub forum, then go there.
Is there a thread for asking / even for new users, with many posts and the last post is from today, then go there and post your question there.
This step is very important, as you have to find a place where your post will be seen by some experienced users which know the answer.
4. Now let's check the contents of your post itself.
Please think about the xda rules (no offence, no personal attack, English, etc.).
Describe as much as possible, what might be useful for others to think about the possible cause of your issue and a good solution to fix it or to give your the right answer.
What device/model, what app(s), what firmware version (ROM, kernel, modem, etc.), what was before, what is now, what have you done, what has happened in between, etc.
Maybe not all those information is really needed to solve the issue or give your the answer, but are you sure that it is not relevant?
If you are not sure, then provide this info.
Be polite, stay as "objective" as possible ... most of the time, emotions are not needed to solve the issue
Maybe you say something like "I would appreciate any kind of suggestion, even if it does not help to solve the issue for me.", or "Thanks in advance.".
It's a kind of motivation for other users to be confident to answer your post, even if they are not absolutely sure that it really can solve your issue.
Good luck !
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Just my suggestions to get your posts answered:
1. Extensive searching before posting:
Maybe you are not the first one with this question or issue.
Search for other users posted the same or similar problem and look if they got propper answers.
2. If you can not find anybody else asked the same or similar question, then search for descriptions/explanations which might solve your issue.
Maybe the answer is already there (even without an explicit question).
3. If neither the question nor the answer can be found, then you have to find the proper place for posting your question.
Is there a forum for your device, then go to that forum.
Is there a dedicated Question & Answer (Q&A) sub forum, then go there.
Is there a thread for asking / even for new users, with many posts and the last post is from today, then go there and post your question there.
This step is very important, as you have to find a place where your post will be seen by some experienced users which know the answer.
4. Now let's check the contents of your post itself.
Please think about the xda rules (no offence, no personal attack, English, etc.).
Describe as much as possible, what might be useful for others to think about the possible cause of your issue and a good solution to fix it or to give your the right answer.
What device/model, what app(s), what firmware version (ROM, kernel, modem, etc.), what was before, what is now, what have you done, what has happened in between, etc.
Maybe not all those information is really needed to solve the issue or give your the answer, but are you sure that it is not relevant?
If you are not sure, then provide this info.
Be polite, stay as "objective" as possible ... most of the time, emotions are not needed to solve the issue
Maybe you say something like "I would appreciate any kind of suggestion, even if it does not help to solve the issue for me.", or "Thanks in advance.".
It's a kind of motivation for other users to be confident to answer your post, even if they are not absolutely sure that it really can solve your issue.
Good luck !
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Notes for help seeker :
1. Make the situation SHORT and NEAT
2. Highlight the main problem
3. provide info by point form like me
4. always provide related keyword for SEO , so that similar help seeker will come to your thread and share their experience too.
After looking over your posts I see you seem to have alot of issues related to your camera and SD cards.
Providing a logcat is the biggest help. As for one rom you used. The MIUI rom it is best to check the MIUI site as no development is done here for it. Only simple ports.
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To follow on from what the others have said, if you read this guide by saywhatt, then you'll know exactly what to include in your posts to get the answers you need.
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Who's talking about me
Some issues are quite complex or involved, and very few people will be able to answer them.
Camera is often one of these things unfortunately. In some ways, the silly, often-asked questions get more answers than the "real" ones. The fact nobody else has had the issue means nobody else can likely help...
A shame, but hopefully you can get it sorted out!
Don't get me wrong, but why don't you consider this as an opportunity to learn more?
Try learning what causes the problem, what is supposed to happen, why does it happen, why doesn't it happen...
Take this as an opportunity to learn more...about android, about hardware, about kernels and roms...
Not saying that it would be easy...
Hopefully, you may be able to do something about it...
And who knows, maybe XDA would get lucky with a new dev on the block
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