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Hi Folks,
So I'm posting in the Tmobile side since I picked up a Tmobile S4 even though I'm using it on AT&T to see if its a Tmobile thing, maybe some conflict from running on AT&T or just doesn't work at all...
I setup and have created/logged in with a Samsung account in the accounts pane and when I go online to try to find the phone I get two things. The first is the site says its not available in my region. And the second is following some details on their site about enabling it on the phone aren't working. It says add a Samsung account (done), go to settings, more, security then remote management (or remote control) then more steps but there is no remote management or remote control listed under settings.
Is this working for anyone at all?
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Screwbal said:
Hi Folks,
So I'm posting in the Tmobile side since I picked up a Tmobile S4 even though I'm using it on AT&T to see if its a Tmobile thing, maybe some conflict from running on AT&T or just doesn't work at all...
I setup and have created/logged in with a Samsung account in the accounts pane and when I go online to try to find the phone I get two things. The first is the site says its not available in my region. And the second is following some details on their site about enabling it on the phone aren't working. It says add a Samsung account (done), go to settings, more, security then remote management (or remote control) then more steps but there is no remote management or remote control listed under settings.
Is this working for anyone at all?
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Signing up and logging in to your tmobile, google or AT&T accounts are optional
and have nothing to do with how or if your phone will work.
You don't need to sign on to any of these three for your phone to work properly.
If your Tmobile M919 Galaxy S4 is NOT UNLOCKED it will not work on any network
except Tmobile.
It will not work with AT&T unless the phone is UNLOCKED.
Either way, the main thing I was trying to say is whatever your problem is it has
nothing to do with signing into tmoble or AT&T or gmail.
All three of those things are optional and have no effect on the phone working properly.
Awesome good to know. Now the only question is has anyone else gotten it to actually work if they have tried?
Screwbal said:
Awesome good to know. Now the only question is has anyone else gotten it to actually work if they have tried?
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It's difficult to say if it will work or not since I have NO idea of what the problem is to start with.
All I know is that you have an Tmobile Galaxy S4 cell phone.
I don't even know if you ever tried a Tmobile sim card in it or whether the phone is unlocked and so on.
So I don't know how to be more helpful to you.
Misterjunky said:
It's difficult to say if it will work or not since I have NO idea of what the problem is to start with.
All I know is that you have an Tmobile Galaxy S4 cell phone.
I don't even know if you ever tried a Tmobile sim card in it or whether the phone is unlocked and so on.
So I don't know how to be more helpful to you.
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No, I just mean the feature in general on the phone. Does anyone have the find my phone function through Samsung working or at least have tried and can confirm that it does work for you, or that you too can't set it up?
Screwbal said:
No, I just mean the feature in general on the phone. Does anyone have the find my phone function through Samsung working or at least have tried and can confirm that it does work for you, or that you too can't set it up?
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You still are very unclear in what your really want to know, I still do not even know if your phone ever worked properly for you.
I still don't even know if your phone is UNLOCKED or not and I don't even know if you have a at&t sim or a tmobile sim card.
You never mention these things in any of your posts so how can anyone confirm anything you are asking to be confirmed?
If you use your phone on the Tmobile network you will have the option of free wifi calling which does not count against cellular minutes.
On the AT&T network there will be no option at all for wifi calling.
All the other features and options on the Galaxy S4 whether it's on the AT&T network or Tmobile network will be exactly the same.
You will not see or find any differences at all except for the wifi calling which I wrote about.
Anyway I am a bit busy, so I cannot help you anymore but I am sure there will be a lot of other people
here who can help you even more than I can.
Perhaps a mind reader will give you a hand if your lucky enough to find one.
The question is clear. Has anyone had this option ever work for them?
To be honest I am not sure how the option works but it maybe GPS related if Samsung is controlling it and not the carrier.
Wayne Tech Nexus
zelendel said:
The question is clear. Has anyone had this option ever work for them?
To be honest I am not sure how the option works but it maybe GPS related if Samsung is controlling it and not the carrier.
Wayne Tech Nexus
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The question has nothing to do with whether the phone is network locked or not; or what carrier's sim card is installed. It has to do with whether a specific function in an app works or not for AT&T users with a TMO device. I have an unlocked TMO version on AT&T network, I'll try what you are talking about and get back with you. I'm reverting back to my stock backup to check. I can't seem to find the particular app you're using through Samsung apps and it doesn't appear to be present on the debloated stock ROM I'm using.
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The question has nothing to do with whether the phone is network locked or not; or what carrier's sim card is installed. It has to do with whether a specific function in an app works or not for AT&T users with a TMO device. I have an unlocked TMO version on AT&T network, I'll try what you are talking about and get back with you. I'm reverting back to my stock backup to check. I can't seem to find the particular app you're using through Samsung apps and it doesn't appear to be present on the debloated stock ROM I'm using.
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You must be the mind reader I was talking about........ LOL
Have a great weekend...
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You must be the mind reader I was talking about........ LOL
Have a great weekend...
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I just happen to have nothing but time on my hands.
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I just happen to have nothing but time on my hands.
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My experience so far is that I also cannot access the feature. You are correct in the fact that the "Remote Control" tab doesn't exist under Settings->More->Security. It should be below "Encrypt Device" but it isn't. The website findmymobile.samsung.com says that once you activate/register your Samsung account on the device, that menu will automatically be enabled; but from my experience (and yours as well apparently) that is definitely not the case.
I did a little research, and within a few minutes I was directed to a thread here on XDA from the SIII forums talking about this particular problem. Apparently, the carriers themselves have removed the ability to use Samsung's built-in mobile location features in preference of the carrier's own mobile location apps and services.
dumb! but I figured out that lookout can do it. going on 24 hours since I picked it up and dusting off my android cobwebs still for how I used to get by a year ago. Was trying to have to install some 3rd party app that I didn't know so tried the built in stuff with no luck but with lookout pre installed and I already know it I figure that should work just fine for me. Thanks folks for the feedback and conversation!
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I just happen to have nothing but time on my hands.
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My experience so far is that I also cannot access the feature. You are correct in the fact that the "Remote Control" tab doesn't exist under Settings->More->Security. It should be below "Encrypt Device" but it isn't. The website findmymobile.samsung.com says that once you activate/register your Samsung account on the device, that menu will automatically be enabled; but from my experience (and yours as well apparently) that is definitely not the case.
I did a little research, and within a few minutes I was directed to a thread here on XDA from the SIII forums talking about this particular problem. Apparently, the carriers themselves have removed the ability to use Samsung's built-in mobile location features in preference of the carrier's own mobile location apps and services.
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AH, so that's what the guy was looking for, I just could not make much sense of what he was asking after reading his posts.
There are several apps at the play store which have the same or similar capabilities.
Here is a link to one of them, it's called "find my phone" it's a free app which finds phones which have been stolen or lost etc.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DEsImNvbS5mc3AuYW5kcm9pZC5waG9uZXRyYWNrZXIiXQ..
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AH, so that's what the guy was looking for, I just could not make much sense of what he was asking after reading his posts.
There are several apps at the play store which have the same or similar capabilities.
Here is a link to one of them, it's called "find my phone" it's a free app which finds phones which have been stolen or lost etc.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DEsImNvbS5mc3AuYW5kcm9pZC5waG9uZXRyYWNrZXIiXQ..
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Yeah, but if it's supposed to be provided by the manufacturer it would stand to reason that it would be available to everyone who bought the device. Apparently though, our carriers tend to believe their own software is far superior to that of those who manufactured the device... I personally don't even use that stuff as I never turn GPS on in the first place; so in the event that my phone is stolen or lost, that kind of software won't do me any good to begin with.
Root developers are saying don't take the updates. Few people are reporting that the updates made anything better. Don't take the updates if you can help it.
Follow the instructions below, and report back with your phone info (carrier, variant, software version, etc.). Also report if updates were successfully blocked, or if they installed anyway, or if you just get a nag screen. Thanks!
If your phone has already downloaded the update and is trying to install it, follow the advice here. This won't work for AT&T phones because they removed recovery mode.
Start here:
Get debloater (works without root!) and set up your computer so you can run ADB and connect with your phone. You may need to install the LG United Mobile Driver.
Please donate to the Debloater developer, gatesjunior! Debloater has made this so much easier!
There are many packages you can block that will improve the performance and battery life of your phone (see my blocked.txt below), but the packages you want to block that will hopefully prevent updates are:
LGDMSClient.apk (Blocking breaks WiFi calling setup on Sprint only.)
LGUpdateCenter.apk
LGFOTA.apk Two users reported calls going straight to voicemail with this blocked.
LGLDB.apk I don't know if it's related to updates but it seems to be MLT spyware.
Not all carriers will have all these files, but block what you do have and report any problems so I can update this post with what works and what doesn't
Carrier specific files:
Sprint users may want to block:
Sprint_Installer.apk
ItsOnService.apk
ItsOnUID.apk
Tierez reported that blocking the ItsOn files breaks WiFi. They also reported that blocking LGDMSClient.apk broke the WiFi calling setup screen.
Verizon users should block:
VerizonIgnite.apk, It's a post-sale bloatware installer. Thanks alan242!
@JeffXT inadvertently blocked a Verizon file that enabled tethering.
AT&T users should block:
WildTangent.apk
T-Mobile users should block:
AdaptClient.apk
This will break the software update screen in about phone and so far has prevented my phone from trying to update. My AT&T H810 hasn't tried to update and I can't force it to update since I blocked LGDMSClient.apk, but it seems we can't be too safe in preventing forced updates so leave no questionable package unblocked!
Something I also did during setup was to not agree to the optional LG EULA that would have allowed app updating. I've also blocked:
LGStartupEula.apk
LicenseProvider.apk
UnifiedEULA.apk
Don't block LGSystemServer.apk, it breaks notifications and other stuff (LED, sound, and vibration).
Autoprime is listing which software versions are updating the firmware to V1 here.
Good luck!
Don't block LGSystemSetup.apk or LGSetupWizard.apk! You'll need it to run if there phone gets reset. Ignore the blocked.txt file below.
phineous said:
After seeing the mysterious "security enhancements" mentioned in the AT&T release notes on the July 1st update I think it's important to prevent further updates incase they break future rooting methods. Also, why take their update if it's not shown to improve performance? Come on! There's an update to Uber, but no mention of touch screen fixes?!
FIrst, get debloater (works without root!)and set up your computer so you can run ADB and connect with your phone. You may need to install the LG United Mobile Driver.
There's a ton of packages you can block that will improve the performance and battery life of the phone, but the package you want to block to prevent updates is LGDMSClient.apk. This will break the software update screen in about phone and so far has prevented my phone from trying to update.
Good luck!
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Just a quick heads up (might just be me, might be US Cellular in general....I am not sure) I went through and did this after hearing about different companies basically force feeding their clientel these OTA Updates and even though I did it all right down to the letter and did not skip anything my US991 still went ahead and did a forced update to 10c (not sure why or even when it did this, just know that it did at some point).
Hopefully they are not blocking any exploits with this stupid 10c update (which I assume they did as my device was running buttery smooth and had no issues that would have needed an update in order to correct).
Z3ldaFan88 said:
Just a quick heads up (might just be me, might be US Cellular in general....I am not sure) I went through and did this after hearing about different companies basically force feeding their clientel these OTA Updates and even though I did it all right down to the letter and did not skip anything my US991 still went ahead and did a forced update to 10c (not sure why or even when it did this, just know that it did at some point).
Hopefully they are not blocking any exploits with this stupid 10c update (which I assume they did as my device was running buttery smooth and had no issues that would have needed an update in order to correct).
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Sorry to hear it didn't prevent your update.
I've added more files to block, and one to unblock in the OP.
phineous said:
Sorry to hear it didn't prevent your update.
Try blocking LGUpdateCenter.apk also. My AT&T H810 hasn't tried to update and I can't force it to update since I blocked LGDMSClient.apk. Seems we can't be too safe in preventing forced updates so leave no questionable package unblocked!
Something I also did during setup was to not agree to the optional LG EULA that would have allowed app updating. I've also blocked:
LGStartupEula.apk
LicenseProvider.apk
UnifiedEULA.apk
I've attached a Debloater blocked.txt that shows all the packages I've blocked.
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No worries, it just is what it is (yeah I was angry about it, but not like I can do anything about it). I will certainly go through and block the rest of the applications that you mentioned though so hopefully I can prevent any future aggravations caused by these damn self-updates. Thanks for posting how you went about it and letting us know that (so far at least) it is going according to plan.
Holy Cow! I thought T-Mobile was bad with the bloat but jeez....AT&T makes our bloat look like....well, I dunno it's still bloat, but we've got a LOT less of it lol. I use the debloater tool, but UX 4.0 isn't that bad by its self. I removed all the T-Mo stuff and that's about it.
Thanks!
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Holy Cow! I thought T-Mobile was bad with the bloat but jeez....AT&T makes our bloat look like....well, I dunno it's still bloat, but we've got a LOT less of it lol. I use the debloater tool, but UX 4.0 isn't that bad by its self. I removed all the T-Mo stuff and that's about it.
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Did removing the TMobile bloat affect wifi calling?
G4'ed it!
Not at all, less lag and a bit smoother. Battery lasts longer since apps that drain the battery are disabled. Just be smart about what you disable. It has a search feature, so I'll search for say "tmo" any apk or service with that search term in it will show up in the list, disable it and move on to the next apk/service. You dont even need to reboot, you can watch them get disabled in real time.
I just bought my second G4, trying the phone again. It is another Verizon model.
People raised interesting points about holding off on updates, in case it makes root more difficult, so I got the Debloater tool (that is awesome!) and tried to block the items listed in the original post.
With Verizon, I don't see an entry for "LGUpdateCenter.apk", so I could not block that one. I hope the remaining 5 will be enough to keep the update at-bay for now.
phineous, that's an interesting point about the optional LG EULA. I agreed to something from LG during initial setup today, I guess I didn't give any real thought to not agreeing.
I have not yet applied anyone's complete Debloater list, I guess I'm not quite brave enough for that just yet. I only went through and disabled things I could identify and knew I wouldn't need at the moment.
How many apks does the AT&T G4 have? My Tmobile has 273.
Replacing my earlier post, to avoid confusion: Verizon messed up something on my line. After a day, they got it fixed, and now I can use Advanced Calling on my G4, still with the original software (having not gotten the recent update). Everything seems to be working now.
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Replacing my earlier post, to avoid confusion: Verizon messed up something on my line. After a day, they got it fixed, and now I can use Advanced Calling on my G4, still with the original software (having not gotten the recent update). Everything seems to be working now.
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What's your Baseband Version and Build number? I'm buying the Verizon G4 this Saturday and would like to know if I have the OTA out of the box.
GUGUITOMTG4 said:
How many apks does the AT&T G4 have? My Tmobile has 273.
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I don't remember how many it came with originally, but I've blocked 85 out of a total of 297. I've probably installed about 57. I would guess around 240 originally.
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What's your Baseband Version and Build number? I'm buying the Verizon G4 this Saturday and would like to know if I have the OTA out of the box.
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Don't let the salesperson set up the phone! They seem to delight in downloading updates. I'd keep the phone off or at least disable WiFi till I could connect it to a computer and Debloat it.
Good luck!
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Don't let the salesperson set up the phone! They seem to delight in downloading updates. I'd keep the phone off or at least disable WiFi till I could connect it to a computer and Debloat it.
Good luck!
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Yeah, that's the plan. I'd just like a frame of reference so I know if all my efforts to prevent the OTA work or if I was defeated before I even got the phone.
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I don't remember how many it came with originally, but I've blocked 85 out of a total of 297. I've probably installed about 57. I would guess around 240 originally.
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Wow 85 is such a relief I blocked just 34. At least it does not get high temps now.T-mobile seems to add much lesser bloat indeed. My 273 include around 40 downloaded apps.
flamadiddle said:
What's your Baseband Version and Build number? I'm buying the Verizon G4 this Saturday and would like to know if I have the OTA out of the box.
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See attached. I believe the item of interest, relative to the OTA, is the Software Version. The new one (updated) ends in 611A, I think.
They did a brief setup at Best Buy for me. I Factory Reset when I got home, then Debloated the items that would start the update:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/how-to-prevent-updates-g4-t3148650
But it wasn't until the next day, after another Factory Reset, that I forgot to Debloat those immediately, and had turned on the WiFi. I noticed when the update was halfway downloaded. Turned off WiFi, and turned on Airplane Mode, until I was able to Debloat the offending items.
No updates stuff since then, several days ago, even with WiFi on.
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But it wasn't until the next day, after another Factory Reset, that I forgot to Debloat those immediately, and had turned on the WiFi. I noticed when the update was halfway downloaded. Turned off WiFi, and turned on Airplane Mode, until I was able to Debloat the offending items.
No updates stuff since then, several days ago, even with WiFi on.
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Look at how sneaky the carriers are now! It's a good thing the devs are being quiet about their root method.
RedOCtobyr said:
See attached. I believe the item of interest, relative to the OTA, is the Software Version. The new one (updated) ends in 611A, I think.
They did a brief setup at Best Buy for me. I Factory Reset when I got home, then Debloated the items that would start the update:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/how-to-prevent-updates-g4-t3148650
But it wasn't until the next day, after another Factory Reset, that I forgot to Debloat those immediately, and had turned on the WiFi. I noticed when the update was halfway downloaded. Turned off WiFi, and turned on Airplane Mode, until I was able to Debloat the offending items.
No updates stuff since then, several days ago, even with WiFi on.
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Exactly what I needed. Thank you! :good:
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Exactly what I needed. Thank you! :good:
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You are welcome! Please report back if discover any problems or other files to block.
I had issues with my new Verizon Note 4 and used the debloater tool previously to remove Verizon's ability to read my phone at will. It seems the software update gave them the ability again.
In my conversation, he read all my side loaded apps / Google store apps. Are there certain things I need to disable? It's really serious when they can read everything at will and them use wrong information to deny me a warranty claim..
dpoverlord said:
I had issues with my new Verizon Note 4 and used the debloater tool previously to remove Verizon's ability to read my phone at will. It seems the software update gave them the ability again.
In my conversation, he read all my side loaded apps / Google store apps. Are there certain things I need to disable? It's really serious when they can read everything at will and them use wrong information to deny me a warranty claim..
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Disable or delete the MyVerizon app because that is the one they use to look for problems on your phone, I'd nix MyInfozone too. I'm rooted so I deleted all the Verizon apps.
Misterxtc said:
Disable or delete the MyVerizon app because that is the one they use to look for problems on your phone, I'd nix MyInfozone too. I'm rooted so I deleted all the Verizon apps.
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Thanks, I am in the Debloater tool now.
I found Myinfozone.apk just cant seem to find MyInfoZone. Any other ones you recommend? What do you use to locate your phone btw in case it ever gets lost / stolen? Just a side question so I don't accidentally nix that.
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Thanks, I am in the Debloater tool now.
I found Myinfozone.apk just cant seem to find MyInfoZone. Any other ones you recommend? What do you use to locate your phone btw in case it ever gets lost / stolen? Just a side question so I don't accidentally nix that.
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You have the correct app. As for locating your phone that is done through Samsung if you created a account and signed up for the location service when you set your phone up. I can't remember what app it because I do not use anything like that.
Im using a HTC 10 (EU variant). Today i was scrolling through "Netguard" (if you dont know it, its an app to prevent other apps from internet access), since i configured it to show system apps it displays way more apps than the normal app overview in the settings. In there i found an app called "RootPA" and one called "root", which seems strange since i didnt unlock the bootloader or root on my own. The details in the RootPA entry say "com.gd.mobicore.pa", no idea if thats helpfull to determine the origin of this mysterious app.
Can you help me with this?
Did you Google it?
I did, but the results were not realy usefull. I found someone with a modded Galaxy S3 who deleted a RootPA on accident and broke stuff, but that ssems unrelated. Are there any things i could do to find out more about the app installed on my phone without root?
I cant say its something I've ever seen. If this person in the past removed it, and it broke stuff, that would suggest that it may have been a system app and he was rooted. From what I managed to find on google, it is part of a security suite (mobicore) used by networks to monitor what the state of the phone is, presumably incase something happens, and it was the user fault, and they know for a fact because they have logs of what the phone has done.
[ACCESS_NETWORK_STATE] Allows applications to access information about networks
[INTERNET] Allows applications to open network sockets. (i.e send information)
[READ_EXTERNAL_STORAGE] Allows an application to read from external storage.
[READ_PHONE_STATE] Allows read only access to phone state.
A friend of mine got his HTC 10 2 days ago, ill ask him to look for this app. Its unlikely we would have the same virus/whatever installed.
Edit: He just reseted his 10 (due to missing language options, but thats another topic), but still found "root" and "rootPA" on his phone, so its preinstalled (although i still dont understand whats its purpose).
RootPA is provides service for provisioning secure applications that run on ARM trustzone and t-base OS (formerly mobicore). It is preinstalled in some vendors Android devices (search for this string on the internet: htc-devices-to-incorporate-trustonic-t-base-tee), but mostly unused as far as I know. The source code of some versions is available on the Internet (e.g. on github /Faryaab/android_hardware_samsung_slsi_exynos5410/tree/master/mobicore/rootpa).
It has nothing to to with rooting or unrooting the device.
PA route is very dangerous I had some I have somebody who has hacked into my phone through this particular program so to speak I have a lot of issues right now with my phone trying to get them off of my phone and this seems to be the root cause or the start of it have anybody knows how I can clear my phone and my Ram from the Vicious hacker I appreciate it I'm tired of being watched and recorded everything I do
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PA route is very dangerous I had some I have somebody who has hacked into my phone through this particular program so to speak I have a lot of issues right now with my phone trying to get them off of my phone and this seems to be the root cause or the start of it have anybody knows how I can clear my phone and my Ram from the Vicious hacker I appreciate it I'm tired of being watched and recorded everything I do
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PA route..... .rootPA ......2 different things. Hacked ? Unlikely, I think some OCD is kicking in. Want to be clean? RUU the device and do not restore anything
Hey all. I thought I would share what I found in fixing my own MMS issues in the hopes that maybe this will help other people. I only take responsibility for what I did to my own Frankensteined, unlocked, US998 kdz'd, stock Verizon Rom'd V30 phone. If this doesn't work for you or causes you issues, I am in no way at fault or liable for what you did to your own phone. I only know this worked for me.
I'm on Verizon and installed Westwood's flashable VS996 20-D ROM over the US998 20B KDZ. For some time, I've been having issues sending MMS messages from both Android's Stock "Messaging" app and Google's "Messages" app. I was able to use Verizon Messaging+, which is set to work directly with Verizon's servers, and was also able to use Legacy mode in Textra, where I was able to set the APN for Textra to use independently of what the system was set to use. However, I wanted to use the somewhat more Default messaging apps, Android Messaging or Google Messages...or at least have the ability to do so.
After a lot of sleuthing, and some subsequent testing, I found that the default APN settings for MMS messaging is saved in:
\root\data\data\com.android.mms\shared_prefs\com.android.mms_preferences.xml
Now, there's a lot of other stuff in there, and I didn't feel comfortable changing things around in that file, so I used another program, Shortcut Master Lite, from the XDA forums, to search for those hidden settings. (There is also a full, paid version of this program on Google Play to support the developer. There are likely many other programs that do the same things as well).
In ShortcutMaster Lite, I clicked the hamburger (3-dot) button choose App Explorer.
I scrolled down to and clicked on Messaging (com.android.mms)
I scrolled to the bottom and clicked on MmsSprintSettingActivity
I clicked on Launch
There I was able to see what the default MMS settings are. In my case, this was still set to the Sprint URL, https:/mms.sprintpcs.com, and some fancy Gateway and Port.
I changed these values to match up with Verizon's MMS settings, so I set the URL to http://mms.vtext.com/servlets/mms, and then left Gateway and Set Port blank. After saving this, the phone IMMEDIATELY rebooted on it's own. After a brief heart attack, the phone rebooted and .... whaBAM! Both Messaging and Messenger work fine now!
It's kind of funny that the setting that needs to be changed is MmsSprintSettingActivity, no? Is that a holdover from the original KDZ? Is @westwood24 's Rom possibly flawed?
Also funny is that, upon post-change review, the Gateway field, which I intentionally left blank, says "only sprint server". Ha!
So in the end, these steps helped me fix my stock MMS-application(s) setting(s) problem(s). Maybe this can help others as well.
I decided to experiment with this yesterday. I'm on Verizon and have a converted LS998 and was using US99820d flashable ROM. I purchased Shortcut Master and did some exploring. Sorry I didn't grab any screenshots while in the US998 ROM but I found a similar mms/apn hidden app that mentioned Sprint in its name that wasn't exactly under com.android.mms. I changed it the url to http://mms.vtext.com/servlets/mms (notice the spelling of servlets lacking the "e") and blanked out all the other fields. The phone rebooted when I closed the app. I use Textra so went I to its settings and reverted the MMS behavior from Legacy back to System. I rebooted and opened Textra back up to find it fully working on the "stock" System mms settings. I thought this was a good reason to flash the latest VS996_20F ROM. I flashed the ROM and found the same mms location/settings reported by my.ads0 in the VS996 ROM. Using Shortcut Master I explored system apps and found Messaging com.android.mms (screen shot 1). I tapped it and launched MmsSprintSettingsActivity (screen shot 2). After launching, this is where you can edit default Sprint url (screen shot 3). You have to blank out all the other fields with the space bar. I closed the app and the phone rebooted. Textra was now fully functioning under the VS996 ROM without using its Legacy setting. The stock LG and Verizon sms apps are working too.
A bonus note is that I checked my WiFi calling and Video calling settings after all of this and they both were not grayed out! I'll have to try to test this soon. I never used these features because I live in a rural area but if they work because of the information that my.ads0 found it might help others. It may help that my Verizon account was already provisioned for these features because of my VZW Droid Turbo.)
What I'm sort of taking from all of this is that either the ROM or your provider's network automagically senses and fills in the mms system settings according to the type of LG V30 device you have unless you actually edit these settings to reflect your service provider when using a Frankensteined V30.
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I decided to experiment with this yesterday. I'm on Verizon and have a converted LS998 and was using US99820d flashable ROM. I purchased Shortcut Master and did some exploring. Sorry I didn't grab any screenshots while in the US998 ROM but I found a similar mms/apn hidden app that mentioned Sprint in its name that wasn't exactly under com.android.mms. I changed it the url to http://mms.vtext.com/servlets/mms (notice the spelling of servlets lacking the "e") and blanked out all the other fields. The phone rebooted when I closed the app. I use Textra so went I to its settings and reverted the MMS behavior from Legacy back to System. I rebooted and opened Textra back up to find it fully working on the "stock" System mms settings. I thought this was a good reason to flash the latest VS996_20F ROM. I flashed the ROM and found the same mms location/settings reported by my.ads0 in the VS996 ROM. Using Shortcut Master I explored system apps and found Messaging com.android.mms (screen shot 1). I tapped it and launched MmsSprintSettingsActivity (screen shot 2). After launching, this is where you can edit default Sprint url (screen shot 3). You have to blank out all the other fields with the space bar. I closed the app and the phone rebooted. Textra was now fully functioning under the VS996 ROM without using its Legacy setting. The stock LG and Verizon sms apps are working too.
A bonus note is that I checked my WiFi calling and Video calling settings after all of this and they both were not grayed out! I'll have to try to test this soon. I never used these features because I live in a rural area but if they work because of the information that my.ads0 found it might help others. It may help that my Verizon account was already provisioned for these features because of my VZW Droid Turbo.)
What I'm sort of taking from all of this is that either the ROM or your provider's network automagically senses and fills in the mms system settings according to the type of LG V30 device you have unless you actually edit these settings to reflect your service provider when using a Frankensteined V30.
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WiFi calling is working. :good:
Video calling working too!
First of all, thanks for pointing out the error in my URL. I've changed "servelets" to "servlets" in the 1st post as it should be.
Second of all...WOW! I'm so glad that my write-up helped you out!
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What I'm sort of taking from all of this is that either the ROM or your provider's network automagically senses and fills in the mms system settings according to the type of LG V30 device you have unless you actually edit these settings to reflect your service provider when using a Frankensteined V30.
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I know! Isn't that crazy? That kept on throwing me for a loop and sent me searching for that elusive value. Does that mean that the KDZ process sets that value and then the Verizon flashing just leaves it in place? Weird.
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WiFi calling is working. :good:
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Video calling working too!
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Sweet! So that's the fix needed for verizon roms. Canestfr & I had to check for OTA's at least once to enable those features on our devices. But if this method does that for us, that's even better as it kills two birds with one stone.
Thanks for these follow ups, 4stringenator!
Hopefully what you started will help other Verizon folks! This is what XDA is all about. We may not have numerous custom Roms but every little bit helps keep control of our tech.
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It's kind of funny that the setting that needs to be changed is MmsSprintSettingActivity, no? Is that a holdover from the original KDZ? Is @westwood24 's Rom possibly flawed?
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here i have to protect westwood24 it's not flawed, it's just fact that these zips doesn't contain all and everything of a full firmware kdz, like partition table, op partition and roundabout ten to 15 other partitions are missing. i would bet that this wouldn't happen on a full kdz flash :good:
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here i have to protect westwood24 it's not flawed, it's just fact that these zips doesn't contain all and everything of a full firmware kdz, like partition table, op partition and roundabout ten to 15 other partitions are missing. i would bet that this wouldn't happen on a full kdz flash :good:
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I don't believe it has anything to do the gracious work that westwood24 has done for community either. :good: I have the same issue with full VS996 and US998 KDZs. The firmware and VZW network can detect that I am using a LS998 device. I always had to change the settings within the sms/mms apps to get multimedia messages work properly. Having the ability to change these setting within the android system helped my non-Verizon supported LS998 become fully functional now. (At least in the St. Louis area VZW network) :victory: There probably is way more to this but I'm happy that I didn't have to pay full price for a VS996 and now can enjoy all the features on an affordable LS998 V30.
Is there any way to get to these settings without purchasing an app?
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Is there any way to get to these settings without purchasing an app?
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ShortcutMaster Lite is free... just not available on the play store anymore. I got my copy from APK mirror...
schwinn8 said:
ShortcutMaster Lite is free... just not available on the play store anymore. I got my copy from APK mirror...
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I ended up not needing to do this anyway. Thanks though
ok, will this work for me? I have an LS998 Frankensteined to US998 running US99820e Oreo and am using Total Wireless (verizon mvno)
I was using textra legacy, but they have omitted it now from their latest update, so MMS isn't working anymore for me, so i would like to see if this works for my situation.
I have shortcut master lite installed, but cant find what the rest of this post states to change/update the mms.
Thanks
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ok, will this work for me? I have an LS998 Frankensteined to US998 running US99820e Oreo and am using Total Wireless (verizon mvno)
I was using textra legacy, but they have omitted it now from their latest update, so MMS isn't working anymore for me, so i would like to see if this works for my situation.
I have shortcut master lite installed, but cant find what the rest of this post states to change/update the mms.
Thanks
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You can always go back to using previous Textra. And then don't let it update. UNcheck automatic updates for that one app in Google Play.
One expects a full KDZ flash to convert the phone to the model of the KDZ, at least within compatible sets like US998 (open market and US cellular flavors), LS998, VS996 and AS998. Subtle issues like with texting and booting weirdness of AOSP roms on certain frankensteined models shows that isn't true. Thinking like a detective, there might be value in collecting images from Frankensteined v30's according to this matrix below for comparisons and to pull back the curtain. One benefit would be to understand what is happening behind the scenes. Another is to have a list of all of the differences to account for in a conversion.
KDZ Phone Model
Flashed US998O US998USC VS996 LS998 AS998
US998Open Ref ? ? ? ?
US998USC ? Ref ? ? ?
VS996 ? ? Ref ? ?
LS998 ? ? ? Ref ?
AS998 ? ? ? ? Ref
jaygo444 said:
ok, will this work for me? I have an LS998 Frankensteined to US998 running US99820e Oreo and am using Total Wireless (verizon mvno)
I was using textra legacy, but they have omitted it now from their latest update, so MMS isn't working anymore for me, so i would like to see if this works for my situation.
I have shortcut master lite installed, but cant find what the rest of this post states to change/update the mms.
Thanks
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I just noticed that today when I updated Textra too. The updated Textra should work once you find the system mms settings. I'm using the updated Textra currently with no issues. You are going to have to explore and poke around a little under system apps in Shortmaster. Look under com.android.mms to begin with. Start launching and exploring untill you find the settings screen with the Set URL, Gateway and Set Port. Tap on each one to edit. (Sorry I can't remember where it was when using the US99820x rom.) Once you find this you only change the URL to http://mms.vtext.com/servlets/mms. The Gateway and Port need to be blank. Once you change those and tap your back navigation button the phone will reboot. Go back and check your settings to make sure the Url is correct and the others are blank. I have a Verizon account, your gateway and port may need to be adjusted for Total Wireless https://bestmvno.com/apn-settings/total-wireless-apn-settings/
Textra app update after Nov. 1st FYI
My question to Textra devs on Dec 11: "I had issues with not being able to change the mms to "legacy' a few updates ago. I always needed this ability to edit the mms url and port for Textra to function properly. I purchased the app specifically for that function a few years ago because I use a rooted phone and custom ROMs on Verizon. Is this feature forever discontinued?"
Textra's reply:
As part of a greater Google initiative to ensure all apps are compiled against a later version of Android (API 26) from 1 Nov 2018, all apps must comply. For Textra users, this means the following features had to be removed in order to comply:
1) Notification Icons can only be white (unless you are running Android KitKat or below)
2) Notification vibration is either on or off (with a pattern) and can no longer be set independantly of your phones sound settings (as was the case in v3.50 of Textra).
3) The Android System APIs must be used for MMS, you can no longer do your own MMS protocol due to certain APIs no longer being available. This means the WiFi fix feature is also gone in Textra.
Please understand these are not features we wanted to remove (why would we?), but we had no choice.
For more details see https://developer.android.com/distribute/best-practices/develop/target-sdk
Still not happy? Please don't give a poor review, as we have no control over this, and leaving a poor review only hurts us. Even if you are angry at Google, don't shoot the messenger!
You can always downgrade to v3.50 (the last version of Textra without these Google changes) but remember you'll never get another update again or any bug fixes. Understood?
1) Uninstall Textra
2) Install http://adhoc.textra.me/Textra-35090.apk
3) Turn off auto-updates for Textra in Google Play
Mandy - Textra SMS Team
I recently purchased a new V 30+ from Wally World. Unlocked, rooted, and flashed vs996g. Everything is fine except VOWIFI. With my previous V30+ I was able to get VOWIFI working but with the new one, no luck. I have used Shortcut Master and gone into Verizon Hidden Menu and populated the VOWIFI toggle with my number, enabled VOWIFI in WIFI calling, LG IMS Provisioning, and Call services and still no luck. I get the VOWIFI enabled in Advanced calling, the VOWIFI Icon next to all my contacts, but when I go to make a call, it says WIFI Call for a couple of seconds and then the icon disappears before the call connects. I'm ready to give up and go back to my other V30+ and use this one as my backup, but I really wanted to use this one as my daily driver since it's brand new. Anyone have any suggestions?
Just tried to tun my wifi calling back on, my network is having issues. I live in a very rural area. Can try when I'm back at work in the big city.
Are you using same sim from the other V30?
Yes, same sim. Someone on another thread suggested a logcat, but I don't know what I'm looking at. Not even sure if I did it correctly.
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Yes, same sim. Someone on another thread suggested a logcat, but I don't know what I'm looking at. Not even sure if I did it correctly.
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I just tried enabling WIFI calling, no dice. I haven't checked its functionality since I dirty flashed VS99620g over f. I never thought to check. Video calling still works though.