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[Q] "0" Network Bug....any fix yet?

Is anyone still working on fixing the "0" network bug (as seen in Spare Parts) that is draining some of us of our precious battery?

That bug was in the Moment also, no one ever fixed it or could tell what it really was, there was another one also, either 0 would be there or the other...
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siirus09 said:
Is anyone still working on fixing the "0" network bug (as seen in Spare Parts) that is draining some of us of our precious battery?
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It's not a bug. A bunch of smaller services are all grouped into that. Pretty much anytime your phone uses 3G it gets grouped into that service. That is why if you try to view it in Spare Parts you get an FC. Most services have stopped running and it can't make a proper list. If you have Wifi available, switch it on and watch 0 drop.

ecooce said:
That bug was in the Moment also, no one ever fixed it or could tell what it really was, there was another one also, either 0 would be there or the other...
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The bug has already been marked as something along the lines of being any root app or setting being grouped into that single UID. Im not sure if that goes the same for the Moment but thats the best someone has described it as for the Epic.
kennyglass123 said:
It's not a bug. A bunch of smaller services are all grouped into that. Pretty much anytime your phone uses 3G it gets grouped into that service. That is why if you try to view it in Spare Parts you get an FC. Most services have stopped running and it can't make a proper list. If you have Wifi available, switch it on and watch 0 drop.
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I know it has been described as that but it IS a bug if its draining battery using the Network when it shouldnt AND its not happening to everyone. The smaller services are any root apps or settings you may have, which shouldnt be taking up more Network time than something that is more of a data user such as Facebook or YouTube.
Oh, and Ive had Wifi on for hours day after day and its still there.

siirus09 said:
The bug has already been marked as something along the lines of being any root app or setting being grouped into that single UID. Im not sure if that goes the same for the Moment but thats the best someone has described it as for the Epic.
I know it has been described as that but it IS a bug if its draining battery using the Network when it shouldnt AND its not happening to everyone. The smaller services are any root apps or settings you may have, which shouldnt be taking up more Network time than something that is more of a data user such as Facebook or YouTube.
Oh, and Ive had Wifi on for hours day after day and its still there.
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What makes you think it is draining the battery? There is no way to tell how long it runs for and what services are in it? It is highest in my network usage until I ran email for a few minutes and that was higher. My battery is amazing, so it is not a battery drainer. It is just a bunch of unknown services that are not named.

kennyglass123 said:
What makes you think it is draining the battery? There is no way to tell how long it runs for and what services are in it? It is highest in my network usage until I ran email for a few minutes and that was higher. My battery is amazing, so it is not a battery drainer. It is just a bunch of unknown services that are not named.
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All those services are using a bit of battery which amounts to a total of more than any other app that uses data that I have. If it wasnt draining battery it wouldnt be at the top and reduce the battery of whoever is affected by it from what Ive seen. It may not be affecting you but it IS a known case out there from what Ive seen in EVERY ROM thread.

siirus09 said:
All those services are using a bit of battery which amounts to a total of more than any other app that uses data that I have. If it wasnt draining battery it wouldnt be at the top and reduce the battery of whoever is affected by it from what Ive seen. It may not be affecting you but it IS a known case out there from what Ive seen in EVERY ROM thread.
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If it's at the top of the list under "Network usage", that is not an issue. Pretty much any rooted kernel will display this process "0'" as the highest network user. Now if the bar is solid red, and your "Running" percentage is near or at 100%, then you have a problem. As long as it's not causing a wakelock, there is no cause for alarm.

siirus09 said:
All those services are using a bit of battery which amounts to a total of more than any other app that uses data that I have. If it wasnt draining battery it wouldnt be at the top and reduce the battery of whoever is affected by it from what Ive seen. It may not be affecting you but it IS a known case out there from what Ive seen in EVERY ROM thread.
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Again, you have NO IDEA how long they are running...it could be 2 minutes. It is just the most used of your network. Lots of things on your Epic use network services but are not listed...because they are lumped into the 0 service. As Matt pointed out, if it is not red, it is not running constantly. Just because you don't know what something is doesn't make it a bug. This is doing exactly what Google meant for it to do, lump unknown (to the OS) network calls into a single UID. TWS was a real bug because it didn't matter whether you had signal or not, it was always 50%. Kswapd0 is a real bug because it is using CPU.

Google Photos keeps device awake (diff Roms, diff gapps)

OK, for some reason my device can barely go to sleep.
Wakelock detector shows a Google Photos process keeps the device awake for some reason:
*job*/com.google.android.apps.photos/.onboarding.autosignin.AutoSignInAndSyncJobService
Closed app, doesn't help.
Reset device, doesn't help.
Flashed a combination of different ROMs and different GAPPS as well as stock, doesn't help.
Used: DU, Pure Nexus, PA latest ROMs;
Open Gapps minimal, full, stock
Banks gapps, pure Nexus gapps.
I am clueless.

I have the same problem with my Nexus 5, and nothing seems to be solving it

It's backing up photos or caching them on your device. You can't determine anything if your phone has only been on for 23 minutes. Let it do its thing.
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ulitol said:
I have the same problem with my Nexus 5, and nothing seems to be solving it
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OK, let's do this, tell me if it works for you (I'll do it as well):
Install "disable service" from the store and disable the service by tapping on Photos. Follow this screenshot:
*UPDATE: it works for both of us with no bad consequences.

PiousInquisitor said:
It's backing up photos or caching them on your device. You can't determine anything if your phone has only been on for 23 minutes. Let it do its thing.
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Unfortunately it did the same when I left it unplugged overnight. It did not sleep, and doze did not kick in.
Also, thus guy here seems to have the same issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/help/help-identifying-wakelocks-battery-drain-t3405320

thenessus said:
Unfortunately it did the same when I left it unplugged overnight. It did not sleep, and doze did not kick in.
Also, thus guy here seems to have the same issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/help/help-identifying-wakelocks-battery-drain-t3405320
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You are running a ROM correct? What gapps are you using? Some don't come with all of the components to properly sync. Use a fuller package.
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thenessus said:
OK, let's do this, tell me if it works for you (I'll do it as well):
Install "disable service" from the store and disable the service by tapping on Photos. Follow this screenshot:
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Will give a try now lets see

PiousInquisitor said:
It's backing up photos or caching them on your device. You can't determine anything if your phone has only been on for 23 minutes. Let it do its thing.
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PiousInquisitor said:
You are running a ROM correct? What gapps are you using? Some don't come with all of the components to properly sync. Use a fuller package.
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I won't open a thread blindly.
I even flashed stock and it still happenes.

thenessus said:
I won't open a thread blindly.
I even flashed stock and it still happenes.
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You didn't do anything to keep your internal storage when you flashed back to stock right?
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PiousInquisitor said:
You didn't do anything to keep your internal storage when you flashed back to stock right?
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Completely clean stock via fast boot.
So far my little hack above seems to work, without damaging the app's functionality.

thenessus said:
Completely clean stock via fast boot.
So far my little hack above seems to work, without damaging the app's functionality.
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That fixed it but what does it break? Can you upload photos? Do photos you have taken in the past display correctly? If yes: good. If no: you probably should try and figure out the real issue. I wonder if it is account related or something server side.
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PiousInquisitor said:
That fixed it but what does it break? Can you upload photos? Do photos you have taken in the past display correctly? If yes: good. If no: you probably should try and figure out the real issue. I wonder if it is account related or something server side.
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Took a pic now and it uploaded to the cloud successfully. All my past photos (2000 pics on a recent trip to Italy) show as well.
I believe it is a server-side issue. It started yesterday out of nowhere, and i'm a very minimalist user, I don't have almost any non-stock apps. It also also supported if it also affects Nexus 5 as mentioned earlier.
The service or process see.s to be associated to login or authentication of the user, which definitely has a complicated server side operation behind it, which could have gone wrong.
I wouldn't raise this to Google though. I saw full well how they ignore bugs reported by users for months and even years (mobile radio active bug being a prime example).

thenessus said:
Took a pic now and it uploaded to the cloud successfully. All my past photos (2000 pics on a recent trip to Italy) show as well.
I believe it is a server-side issue. It started yesterday out of nowhere, and i'm a very minimalist user, I don't have almost any non-stock apps. It also also supported if it also affects Nexus 5 as mentioned earlier.
The service or process see.s to be associated to login or authentication of the user, which definitely has a complicated server side operation behind it, which could have gone wrong.
I wouldn't raise this to Google though. I saw full well how they ignore bugs reported by users for mo that and even years (mobile radio active bug being a prime example).
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Your "fix" worked for me as good as for you, so thank you

Definitely looks like a problem of Google, because to me THE SAME is happening... is crazy, the battery is draining much faster in my Nexus 5, if the battery is already a big piece of crap in Nexus 5, with this wakelock is even worse... During 5h I am finding 20 min of wakelock of photos WITHOUT MAKING ANY NEW PHOTO. Gonna try the "fix", but is there any way to tell Google? I don't really know...

fernifje said:
Definitely looks like a problem of Google, because to me THE SAME is happening... is crazy, the battery is draining much faster in my Nexus 5, if the battery is already a big piece of crap in Nexus 5, with this wakelock is even worse... During 5h I am finding 20 min of wakelock of photos WITHOUT MAKING ANY NEW PHOTO. Gonna try the "fix", but is there any way to tell Google? I don't really know...
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I wouldn't bother escalating it to them, they are a brick wall.

Yesterday an update of photos rolled out... i will check if it is still the same and reporte back.

fernifje said:
Definitely looks like a problem of Google, because to me THE SAME is happening... is crazy, the battery is draining much faster in my Nexus 5, if the battery is already a big piece of crap in Nexus 5, with this wakelock is even worse... During 5h I am finding 20 min of wakelock of photos WITHOUT MAKING ANY NEW PHOTO. Gonna try the "fix", but is there any way to tell Google? I don't really know...
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fernifje said:
Yesterday an update of photos rolled out... i will check if it is still the same and reporte back.
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Please do!

Can't uncheck anything in Disable Service
I was having the same google photos wakelock issue on my International Galaxy S7 edge. I found it in Wakelock Detector. So I found this thread and then the app Disable Service but for some reason I can't uncheck the box under google photos in Disable Service. I am rooted and used CF- Auto Root.

I also have this issue. I am using the latest stock 6.0.1 ROM on Nexus 5, rooted with ElementalX kernel. Nothing else installed. (No Xposed etc). I tried to even turn off backup and unchecked "Google Photos Backup" in Settings > Accounts > Google.
Edit: On a span of 8 hours, the wakelock persisted for around 2 hours.

Same issue with the update... your "fix" works...

Mobile Radio Active Bug draining battery

Dears,
On my op3, which is running with Experience OS and Blue spark Kernel, always the Whats app coming on top of the battery stats even though I opened it less time. It is showing that "Mobile Radio Active" is enabled for hours. I can not switch off the Data while the screen off because it may delay the notifications. I understood that the modem is not disconnecting from data even if the app become not in foreground stage. What ever the app I used for data restriction reduced the Deep sleep time since it were keeping alive in the back end to restrict the data service. Is there any solution to get rid the Mobile Radio Active bug.

No there isn't, it is a known thing since Android Lollipop.

Roykooiman said:
No there isn't, it is a known thing since Android Lollipop.
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OOOOPSSS!!!! i have cleared all other battery draining issues using various methods. But this is hectic.
Why google is not taking care about this since it is a serious bug? But I think not everyone facing this issue. Some of them are getting good battery backup without having mobile radio active issue.

aneshdas said:
OOOOPSSS!!!! i have cleared all other battery draining issues using various methods. But this is hectic.
Why google is not taking care about this since it is a serious bug? But I think not everyone facing this issue. Some of them are getting good battery backup without having mobile radio active issue.
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With Whatsapp this is expected. All of Facebooks apps are known to be terrible battery drainers. It is part of the reason that it never took off in the states. Also anything like that will always keep the radio active. It is the nature of the app. As long as you use it then you will get battery drain.

zelendel said:
With Whatsapp this is expected. All of Facebooks apps are known to be terrible battery drainers. It is part of the reason that it never took off in the states. Also anything like that will always keep the radio active. It is the nature of the app. As long as you use it then you will get battery drain.
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But it is a serious bug, isn't it Bro? I am worried why the google devs not showing much interest to resolve this battery killing issue.... I think there was an xposed module available in Lollipop or marshmallow to solve this problem. But nothing available in Nougat. feeling helpless bro

aneshdas said:
But it is a serious bug, isn't it Bro? I am worried why the google devs not showing much interest to resolve this battery killing issue.... I think there was an xposed module available in Lollipop or marshmallow to solve this problem. But nothing available in Nougat. feeling helpless bro
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It's nothing Google can do. It is Facebook. The apps is badly coded just like their main app and messenger. As long as you rely on it for messaging (not sure why people do) then you will have to deal with it.

zelendel said:
It's nothing Google can do. It is Facebook. The apps is badly coded just like their main app and messenger. As long as you rely on it for messaging (not sure why people do) then you will have to deal with it.
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No bro, I don't think it is because of Facebook. I am not using facebook at all. But me too having the issue. I think it is clearly a mobile data modem issue. Mobile radio is not disconnecting even after android system closed the foreground app. Only android devs can resolve it.

aneshdas said:
No bro, I don't think it is because of Facebook. I am not using facebook at all. But me too having the issue. I think it is clearly a mobile data modem issue. Mobile radio is not disconnecting even after android system closed the foreground app. Only android devs can resolve it.
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You miss the fact that whatsapp is a facebook app. Owned and written by facebook.
If mobile data disconnects then you would not get notified. Data is how that app works.
If you do some research you will find this to be true.
Again this is how messaging apps work. It doesnt seem like you have alot of experience in mobile OS programming.
My advice would be to use a different app like Telegram. This is what most of the world uses. As to whats app is mainly used in developing countries but not much outside of them.

zelendel said:
You miss the fact that whatsapp is a facebook app. Owned and written by facebook.
If mobile data disconnects then you would not get notified. Data is how that app works.
If you do some research you will find this to be true.
Again this is how messaging apps work. It doesnt seem like you have alot of experience in mobile OS programming.
My advice would be to use a different app like Telegram. This is what most of the world uses. As to whats app is mainly used in developing countries but not much outside of them.
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:good:

Is there no fix for Mobile radio active bug??

aneshdas said:
OOOOPSSS!!!! i have cleared all other battery draining issues using various methods. But this is hectic.
Why google is not taking care about this since it is a serious bug? But I think not everyone facing this issue. Some of them are getting good battery backup without having mobile radio active issue.
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Then they're not using cellular data

Roykooiman said:
Then they're not using cellular data
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I saw in a group that one guy is getting 3 days of battery backup for his OP3T even with tha Data on. I don't know how some of them alone getting the best. He is using his mobile too.
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/battery-drain-problem-after-7-1-1-update.506751/page-7

aneshdas said:
I saw in a group that one guy is getting 3 days of battery backup for his OP3T even with tha Data on. I don't know how some of them alone getting the best. He is using his mobile too.
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/battery-drain-problem-after-7-1-1-update.506751/page-7
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Yes but if you look closely he is not using the device. And to be honest, I don't think it's real. I have never seen android display something when there is no usage like for the GPS in that screen shot.
I know it can last for days without using it as that is what happens to my device on the weekends. I unplug it sat morning and only use it when someone calls me and I don't have to plug it back in until Monday morning. Mind you that is really not using the phone much at all.

it has got no fix yet. May be this goes away in Oreo.

Sorry if someone has already pointed this before.. But have u tried turning the data saver mode on?
Once ON, make sure you disable unlimited data for Google play services and whatsapp.. (in settings, app, data usage)
I tried it and somehow it worked

rapid battery drain 8.1

Ever since I flashed 8.1 , battery is draining very rapidly. After sending one email just text no attachments, battery went from 100 to 96%. Has anyone else had this issue?

canemaxx said:
Ever since I flashed 8.1 , battery is draining very rapidly. After sending one email just text no attachments, battery went from 100 to 96%. Has anyone else had this issue?
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Nope. At least give it a couple of charge cycles to see what's going on. I've noticed no changes since I installed 8.1.

I did, after using GSam Battery to find the problems it was play services and RCSService. So I uninstalled RCSService and cleared data on Google play services and it's been fine since.

antiochasylum said:
I did, after using GSam Battery to find the problems it was play services and RCSService. So I uninstalled RCSService and cleared data on Google play services and it's been fine since.
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Have you by chance used, or are using the magisk module for doze on Google play services?? Seems to work pretty well.

Badger50 said:
Have you by chance used, or are using the magisk module for doze on Google play services?? Seems to work pretty well.
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I'm stock lol. Not even unlocked bootloader.

antiochasylum said:
I'm stock lol. Not even unlocked bootloader.
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Ah, gotchya. I had no difficulties with stock either. At least for the week I had it before it wasn't stock

I have only unlocked the bootloader. I have no other mods on my phone. I have done a restart and a fresh install of 8.1 and nothing is helping. Nothing is running in the background either. I don't get it

Badger50 said:
Nope. At least give it a couple of charge cycles to see what's going on. I've noticed no changes since I installed 8.1.
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what is the name of the theme ?

crazykas said:
what is the name of the theme ?
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Swift dark with fuchsia accent.

Do you have a weak mobile signal when you are on wifi? I think Google changed the default to be keeping mobile data on even while WiFi is on in 8.1. For me, i have crap mobile signal at my wifi location, so the scanning for a signal might drain my battery. You can change the setting in developer options. Have no idea if it will help though...

I am on 8.1 since 3 days (not rooted), on full charge I have got 7 hours SOT consistently... dont think so the drain has anything to do with 8.1 update..
pls check ur apps

Go into settings/Google/instant tethering and see if it's on. That being on killed my battery life...

I have noticed quite a bit of battery drain since activating the Pixel visual core. .. definitely noticeable loss of battery and especially on the camera.

antiochasylum said:
I did, after using GSam Battery to find the problems it was play services and RCSService. So I uninstalled RCSService and cleared data on Google play services and it's been fine since.
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Hey, can you tell me how you were able to uninstall rcsservice? My option is greyed out.

radlink14 said:
Hey, can you tell me how you were able to uninstall rcsservice? My option is greyed out.
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Adb buddy.
Turn on usb debugging. And get to a PC then,
Adb shell
pm uninstall -k --user 0 <name of package.apk> with out the <>.
If my memory serves me right, it's com.qualcomm.qti.uceShimService.apk for the RCSService
This tells the phone to uninstall said apk for that specific user. And not the entire system. Which root is needed for.
Be mindful. These can come back after a factory reset.

antiochasylum said:
Adb buddy.
Turn on usb debugging. And get to a PC then,
Adb shell
pm uninstall -k --user 0 <name of package.apk> with out the <>.
If my memory serves me right, it's com.qualcomm.qti.uceShimService.apk for the RCSService
This tells the phone to uninstall said apk for that specific user. And not the entire system. Which root is needed for.
Be mindful. These can come back after a factory reset.
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Thanks a lot... Was hoping I didn't need to get on a PC. I feel like we're in a day and age with Android where this shouldn't be necessary.
I discovered an option in developer settings where it seems "keep mobile data on " whole on wifi which I am hoping is the culprit to my battery issues.

It def drops faster since 8.1 not like what the OP is talking about, but over night it uses hardly anything then I can use it half the next day pretty much

RCSService Accesible only if rooted?
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I did, after using GSam Battery to find the problems it was play services and RCSService. So I uninstalled RCSService and cleared data on Google play services and it's been fine since.
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RCSService Accessible/Modify only if rooted? I didn't want to but if I must hassle then OK. So to delete it i need to go root?

wiseguyy said:
RCSService Accessible/Modify only if rooted? I didn't want to but if I must hassle then OK. So to delete it i need to go root?
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3 posts up..

I can confirm that battery drain on iOS 8.1 is pretty bad...
on 8.0 i regularly used to get 6.5 to 7 hours SOT, on 8.1 its come down to 5.5 to 6 hours SOT

S20+ WiFi issues after android 11 update ? ( exynos )

Guys is it just me or the phone is facing some wifi strength issues after latest update to one ui 3.0, android 11 ?
Sudenly phone gets disconnected from the wifi quite often regarldess of am i at home or not, and signal strength is good if i dont walk too much away from the wifi source.
Is any1 else facing similar issues with wifi after this update ?
S20+ exynos version

I am having the exact same issue. I can't even leave my phone on wifi now. Every other device is fine on wifi.

Clear system cache on the boot menu.
Reset network settings.
If that doesn't get it...
Hard wipe and reload, after a major firmware update this is recommended.

blackhawk said:
Clear system cache on the boot menu.
Reset network settings.
If that doesn't get it...
Hard wipe and reload, after a major firmware update this is recommended.
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I always do this, fortunately for me I just got this phone so not many apps are installed

@devaa01
Same issue with a s20 5g Exynos

blackhawk said:
Clear system cache on the boot menu.
Reset network settings.
If that doesn't get it...
Hard wipe and reload, after a major firmware update this is recommended.
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i tried, i mean i had phone for 2 days before A11 update and the wifi was
good then i saw new update i was okay new phone who cares lets go
updated, factory reset and now the wifi connection is just like im
500m from the wifi..

devaa01 said:
i tried, i mean i had phone for 2 days before A11 update and the wifi was
good then i saw new update i was okay new phone who cares lets go
updated, factory reset and now the wifi connection is just like im
500m from the wifi..
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Make sure it isn't a 3rd party app messing it up.
Otherwise either a bad download or the the software is buggy.
You can wait to see if Sammy pushes out a fix or take it a Samsung Experience center or send it to Samsung.
It must be quit the terror... that's why I tend not to update. In practice it's been far less trouble for me.

I'm having the same problem with my s20u snapdragon. No luck yet, I guess I'll have to factory reset the phone.

blackhawk said:
Make sure it isn't a 3rd party app messing it up.
Otherwise either a bad download or the the software is buggy.
You can wait to see if Sammy pushes out a fix or take it a Samsung Experience center or send it to Samsung.
It must be quit the terror... that's why I tend not to update. In practice it's been far less trouble for me.
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I worked out my bad battery life was due to earlier updates (Sept, Oct) causing 5GHz Wi-Fi issues and random drops. Even with the phone 1.5m from my Ruckus WAP it'd eat battery sitting there doing nothing at a crazy rate. Switching to 2.4GHz has almost completely fixed the battery drain problem for me. Almost, as in fairly close to how the phone was with the July update.
I had a lot of confidence in Samsung's updates after buying the phone in April, each update seemed to improve the phone and the battery life was great. We've owned many Galaxy phones since S3 but always rooted them with some flavour of AOSP ROMs, and this is the first Samsung phone I have not rooted so I was relying on Samsung to regularly update the ROM with improvements. Dumb ...
So I agree with @blackhawk ... no way am I updating to Android 11/One UI 3 for at least 6 months, maybe never. I've downloaded the July firmware in case I get so frustrated I wipe and reload the phone. I'm not a gamer and I don't spend massive amounts of time on the internet so "security updates" might not be that important. I'm an old IT guy and very suspicious/vigilant about what I click on.
If only there was a way to stop the System Update regularly pestering me to install what seems to be a worse update than all the others, judging by the range of comments posted so far.

devaa01 said:
i tried, i mean i had phone for 2 days before A11 update and the wifi was
good then i saw new update i was okay new phone who cares lets go
updated, factory reset and now the wifi connection is just like im
500m from the wifi..
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I hope you mean you're 500mm from the WAP ... half a km is pretty ambitious for Wi-Fi reception!

yrp888 said:
I worked out my bad battery life was due to earlier updates (Sept, Oct) causing 5GHz Wi-Fi issues and random drops. Even with the phone 1.5m from my Ruckus WAP it'd eat battery sitting there doing nothing at a crazy rate. Switching to 2.4GHz has almost completely fixed the battery drain problem for me. Almost, as in fairly close to how the phone was with the July update.
I had a lot of confidence in Samsung's updates after buying the phone in April, each update seemed to improve the phone and the battery life was great. We've owned many Galaxy phones since S3 but always rooted them with some flavour of AOSP ROMs, and this is the first Samsung phone I have not rooted so I was relying on Samsung to regularly update the ROM with improvements. Dumb ...
So I agree with @blackhawk ... no way am I updating to Android 11/One UI 3 for at least 6 months, maybe never. I've downloaded the July firmware in case I get so frustrated I wipe and reload the phone. I'm not a gamer and I don't spend massive amounts of time on the internet so "security updates" might not be that important. I'm an old IT guy and very suspicious/vigilant about what I click on.
If only there was a way to stop the System Update regularly pestering me to install what seems to be a worse update than all the others, judging by the range of comments posted so far.
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I use a package blocker to keep AT&T updates from running.
You can also request that they (at least AT&T) don't push you the updates. I did that way for a couple of years.

blackhawk said:
I use a package blocker to keep AT&T updates from running.
You can also request that they (at least AT&T) don't push you the updates. I did that way for a couple of years.
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Tks, I'll check out any package blockers. Telstra in Australia is unlikely to be able to stop sending updates, but I'll enquire.
Do they work for App Updates too?

yrp888 said:
Tks, I'll check out any package blockers. Telstra in Australia is unlikely to be able to stop sending updates, but I'll enquire.
Do they work for App Updates too?
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This one does, been using it for about 3 years.
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com

yrp888 said:
If only there was a way to stop the System Update regularly pestering me to install what seems to be a worse update than all the others, judging by the range of comments posted so far.
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Isn't there an option in Developers to turn off auto updates?

Journyman16 said:
Isn't there an option in Developers to turn off auto updates?
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Damn it ... you're right, kind of. The option is to stop it auto-updating on phone restart, which I have disabled to avoid this.
Thanks for the post as I would have restarted the phone at some point and been really annoyed with A11 being auto installed.

yrp888 said:
Damn it ... you're right, kind of. The option is to stop it auto-updating on phone restart, which I have disabled to avoid this.
Thanks for the post as I would have restarted the phone at some point and been really annoyed with A11 being auto installed.
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I found this on a Sammy forum...
"Yes u can stop the updates if your recent Android working well
disable this packages
com.sec.android.soagent
com.wssyncmldm "
Bricks etc are not my fault.

Journyman16 said:
I found this on a Sammy forum...
"Yes u can stop the updates if your recent Android working well
disable this packages
com.sec.android.soagent
com.wssyncmldm "
Bricks etc are not my fault.
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Sometimes manually entering the updater apk name in the blocker will work even though there's no registered check box for it.
If the blocker can't block carrier updates it's worthless to me...

Theres a problem with wifi on S20+
It is eating up battery even though screen is off.

agentsandy007 said:
Theres a problem with wifi on S20+
It is eating up battery even though screen is off.
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Look at the Wi-Fi signal bar, are you using 5GHz Wi-Fi? If so, try switching to 2.4GHz.

yrp888 said:
Look at the Wi-Fi signal bar, are you using 5GHz Wi-Fi? If so, try switching to 2.4GHz.
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I've taken this screen after switching to mobile data.
I was using wifi hotspot. Not a router.