Still no 5.1.1 yet - Moto 360

Looks like every other popular smartwatch has gotten the update except for us.
What is going on?

We also have significantly more market saturation than any other watch in the wear product line, I'm not surprised we're last and longest ramp time

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We also have significantly more market saturation than any other watch in the wear product line, I'm not surprised we're last and longest ramp time
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I don't believe this makes sense. How does having a watch with more market saturation prevent you from releasing an update? If I make a wear watch and lets say it takes me 8 hours to build the update, it will still take 8 hours to build wether I sold 4 watches or 10,000,000,000 watches. Its the same watch.

There's a couple more reports of folks with a huge decrease in battery with the new update (more like a sudden drop rather than a mild decrease over a day's time). Maybe they're addressing those.
I wonder if all the other watches have had a full rollout, or if there's been a stop to them.

khalaan said:
We also have significantly more market saturation than any other watch in the wear product line, I'm not surprised we're last and longest ramp time
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There has been no update from google itself including the wifi ability with the update, like the zenwatch; it doesn't have a wifi chip, and did get the update.
Okay well the LG Gwatch r did get wifi going, but with support of a developer.
I don't expect much good from this update. Extra functionality; more battery drain. Android wear isn't even near to the stage of being a good stand alone OS(As I see Android wear), to be honost I prefer the Galaxy gear having real android with a theme, instead of an OS which isn't open source.
The only thing I am waiting for is the wrist gestures, as they could be usefull in a car. Yet everyone is exited about the wifi update; I don't know alot of people who are not carrying their phone with them. Other than that function, wifi is quite useless for the moto 360.

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Where I think you seem to misunderstand me is this... I have been automating the merging of upstream code changes for 15 years, that's all well and good but rolling releases and making sure that you've done at least a basic set of regression tests before blowing up people's watches is where it gets tricky. If you think it is bad when your Moto battery suffers from a rushed release of Wear companion app, what do you think would happen to your phone if your watch decided to get particularly chatty instead? @Armazia
I'm not even kind of sure how your comment relates to mine at all so I'll go ahead and disregard assuming you quoted the wrong user.

I am using Moto 360 for the past 6 months. There had been instances when very few side loaded watch faces did affect the battery. But now consistently my battery runs through the day without any problem. I am just sharing my experience. Any new OS will have its own issues. Specially in the mobile and wearable front the users have a lot of control over the battery performance. If you use the stock OS and also use certified apps battery life should be good. This is my considered opinion. Thanks

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Yet everyone is exited about the wifi update; I don't know alot of people who are not carrying their phone with them. Other than that function, wifi is quite useless for the moto 360.
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I'm anxious about wifi update for a single reason. Everyday I leave home for work in the morning with both my phone and watch connected via Bluetooth at full charge.
By the end of the day, my watch still has 50% of the battery and my phone struggles to get to the end without recharging, which didn't happen by the time I didn't need an 'always on' Bluetooth.
I expect that, with wifi on the watch I can get trough the day with a single charge on watch AND phone...
That's my thoughts.

Im betting ota will start by sunday
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I am excited for this update, well because I like to be running the newest builds possible. My N6 is already on the M preview.
As for why I am excited about the Wifi part of this update. When I am out working in my yard I can leave my phone in the house and listen to music from my watch and still get notifications to my watch from my phone. Secondly at work I am on our Wifi network and I am always carrying my phone when I leave my office to go to a meeting, once we get this update I can leave my phone in my office and still have my watch get notifications.

If we are throwing out guesses for firmware release dates.... I choose June 19th! Let's start a pool shall we?

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If we are throwing out guesses for firmware release dates.... I choose June 19th! Let's start a pool shall we?
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June 15th, 8am CST.

June 69th, 3AM

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kxhaz said:
I am excited for this update, well because I like to be running the newest builds possible. My N6 is already on the M preview.
As for why I am excited about the Wifi part of this update. When I am out working in my yard I can leave my phone in the house and listen to music from my watch and still get notifications to my watch from my phone. Secondly at work I am on our Wifi network and I am always carrying my phone when I leave my office to go to a meeting, once we get this update I can leave my phone in my office and still have my watch get notifications.
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Battery will be killed on the wifi much faster than on bluetooth

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Battery will be killed on the wifi much faster than on bluetooth
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its only designed as a fallback method not a main source.

Armazia said:
The only thing I am waiting for is the wrist gestures, as they could be usefull in a car. Yet everyone is exited about the wifi update; I don't know alot of people who are not carrying their phone with them. Other than that function, wifi is quite useless for the moto 360.
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Everyone's needs and wants are different. I am really looking forward to practically all of the features introduced in this update but the top 2, by far, are the always-on state for the apps (especially for Google Keep, which to me is a killer application for the Android Wear smartwatches and is the main reason I haven't got a Samsung smartwatch) and the Wi-Fi functionality.
I got the Moto 360 very recently and am selling my LG G Watch (which has long got the update...) especially for the Wi-Fi functionality!
I never leave my home without my phone (I have been using smartphones since YEARS before Jobs and Apple "invented" them... and they are critical "personal assistants" to me, the only thing I ALWAYS have with me) but when at home, being able to leave my smartphone somewhere (for example on its wireless charging pad) and yet still being able to be notified of everything in invaluable to me.
Actually, the only thing still missing which would make it perfect, it's Samsung (and now Apple too) smartwatches' ability to make and answer phone calls. I am confident, since Google's competitors have it, that it's only a question of time before we get that too.

Wifi is neat but the battery hit is gonna be bad..i wouldn't use it.

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I'm Watch Android based BT & Wifi watch accessory

The Italian firm Blue Sky are releasing their i'm Watch, which is an Android 1.6 wrist based touch screen accessory. It's like the SonyEricsson LiveView, only keeps time natively, has both BT and Wifi, a microphone, a tiny speaker, a high resolution 220 ppi screen, a motion sensor, according to the stuff I've read about it.
One of the possibilities of this device, for those of us who enjoy Squeezebox based music, is for its ability to run the Squeezecommander app and function as a stand alone touch remote control.
I could also see a lot of cool watch faces being created based on this device.
One disadvantage of this device is the screen lights up only after manual button pushing. According to i'm Watch they'll release a software update to enable always on mode. This will likely drain the battery in a few hours, so what would be needed is a motion sensitive app that lights up the screen say, with a twist of the wrist.
The manufacturer will release an SDK, and will have their own dedicated forum. However, since XDA is the greatest mobile related forum in the world, with so many talented hackers it would be great to give this accessory its own thread over here.
Lots of possibilities!
i'm Watch removed the Wifi capability from the final specification as far as I can tell. Too bad.
I'm really interested in one of these.
But i feel that we need a custom rom to fully utilize the full potential of this device. Hopefully they will release the full kernel sources.
Would froyo be possible? Speed/battery improvements would be welcome!
Would this be an Accessory or it's own standalone device? I thought it was a device on it's own, as in doens't connect to another phone like liveview
It's expensive as hell though. At 299 euros, that's about $412 USD. I just bought this last night. $60: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000VXLW4E
And if you want the SE LiveView, it's only like $70 on Amazon.
As far as i know the i'm watch connects to your phone. And works as some kind of handsfree or remote.
Something similar to sony ericssons liveview.
But the i'm watch is a watch that works "on its own". The liveview even requires to be connected to a phone to show the time. And it doesn't display either the content of mail or messages. Besides that there are some serious connection problems with liveview and phones from other manufacturers than sony.
I happen to own a liveview which works about 50% of the time you try to use it. Lets hope the i'm watch does a better job!
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As far as i know the i'm watch connects to your phone. And works as some kind of handsfree or remote.
Something similar to sony ericssons liveview.
But the i'm watch is a watch that works "on its own". The liveview even requires to be connected to a phone to show the time. And it doesn't display either the content of mail or messages. Besides that there are some serious connection problems with liveview and phones from other manufacturers than sony.
I happen to own a liveview which works about 50% of the time you try to use it. Lets hope the i'm watch does a better job!
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I've have a liveview and disappointed by it's functionality based on past products from SE. I loved the concept but like others, the LV only connects like 70% for me and the customization is really not there.
And as for the I'm Watch. I have been following this for about a year. I have been on and off their pre-order list because I cannot see myself be an early adapter of this watch because of my experience with the Liveview lol. Well the price didn't help either.
I've seen the demo on their site and it does look promising. I just got an email today that they are going to launch the watch at CES this year so that should create some media buzz. For the price, I decided to put my funds to a bit better use and back a kickstarter project that will launch a clear/glass touch keyboard and mouse that I hope will be pretty user friendly lol...The kickstarter guy is going to be at CES as well.
Mine arrived 2 hours ago. It's on my skinny (16cm) wrist and just fits without looking too stupid, although none of my mates have seen it yet and I can guarantee they'll tell me....
The price, well, my Rolex cost a bit more and it doesn't tell me the date or light up at night. It only tells me the time when there's enough light to see by. It certainly doesn't tell me when I have a new email.
First impressions.... hmmm, so-so.
It is quite fast to flick through apps. Not greased lightning, not even lightening... just adequately fast. Not frustratingly slow.
Getting it tethered to my Samsung Galaxy Note took a bit of fiddling and I ended up rebooting both devices to accomplish this.
The only way to configure the apps is on their i'm cloud webpage.
This only has the basic apps.
Weather
Twitter (I don't have this)
Facebook (which I f'ing hate, so don't have)
Appointments
Images (Picassa, which I don't have)
Stocks (not interested)
News (not interested)
Email (gmail only)
i'music (10 songs that I either have or am not interested in)
You import your addressbook (no editing available, no pictures) via bluetooth.
You plug the cable in to transfer music and pictures.
You will burst in to tears as you watch your 3Gb (they advertised it as 4Gb) get's eaten up at 1Mb per second.
You'll then start tearing your hair out as you uploaded some songs you didn't want and can't delete them on the device - you have to plug it back in.
There's a few ringtones and notifications to choose from but no custom option.
No custom wallpaper or clock faces.
I've emailed them to see where the Calculator app is, where the games are etc but that was an hour ago so I'll give them a while to respond.
***EDIT***
They have replied very quickly to tell me that I'm stuck with the default apps (grrrr) and that the i'market isn't up yet.
Questions?
Could you snap a few pictures of it? I would love to see how it looks. Maybe a video in the real world..
I've got a 16cm (skinny) wrist, I'll put up a few more for comparison
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Oh boy that looks so sweet...does that one pairs with other phones or it has to be like Android kinda phone.
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Oh boy that looks so sweet...does that one pairs with other phones or it has to be like Android kinda phone.
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It pairs with
Android (HTC, Samsung, Motorola, LG, etc)
BlackBerry® (RIM)
iOS® (Apple iPhone®)
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I'm looking forward to seeing if it supports SMS notifications once iOS6 gets released (has Bluetooth MAP at last)
is it true that wifi capability has been removed? or can the watch connect to a wifi network without the use of another smartphone?
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I'm looking forward to seeing if it supports SMS notifications once iOS6 gets released (has Bluetooth MAP at last)
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Currently, it doesn't show me SMS notifications.
tranceluv said:
is it true that wifi capability has been removed? or can the watch connect to a wifi network without the use of another smartphone?
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It has no wifi
nitrowing said:
Mine arrived 2 hours ago. It's on my skinny (16cm) wrist and just fits without looking too stupid, although none of my mates have seen it yet and I can guarantee they'll tell me....
The price, well, my Rolex cost a bit more and it doesn't tell me the date or light up at night. It only tells me the time when there's enough light to see by. It certainly doesn't tell me when I have a new email.
First impressions.... hmmm, so-so.
It is quite fast to flick through apps. Not greased lightning, not even lightening... just adequately fast. Not frustratingly slow.
Getting it tethered to my Samsung Galaxy Note took a bit of fiddling and I ended up rebooting both devices to accomplish this.
The only way to configure the apps is on their i'm cloud webpage.
This only has the basic apps.
Weather
Twitter (I don't have this)
Facebook (which I f'ing hate, so don't have)
Appointments
Images (Picassa, which I don't have)
Stocks (not interested)
News (not interested)
Email (gmail only)
i'music (10 songs that I either have or am not interested in)
You import your addressbook (no editing available, no pictures) via bluetooth.
You plug the cable in to transfer music and pictures.
You will burst in to tears as you watch your 3Gb (they advertised it as 4Gb) get's eaten up at 1Mb per second.
You'll then start tearing your hair out as you uploaded some songs you didn't want and can't delete them on the device - you have to plug it back in.
There's a few ringtones and notifications to choose from but no custom option.
No custom wallpaper or clock faces.
I've emailed them to see where the Calculator app is, where the games are etc but that was an hour ago so I'll give them a while to respond.
***EDIT***
They have replied very quickly to tell me that I'm stuck with the default apps (grrrr) and that the i'market isn't up yet.
Questions?
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First real review I've ever read of the I'm Watch anywhere. Thank you! Let us know if there are improvements in the software. It does sound underpowered in terms of memory, and weird that it doesn't show pictures with the address/contacts. What's the point of that pixeldense screen, then. What about finish? Look classy, would you say. How are people reacting to it?
PS. My interest went away with the Wifi, although at least it does have vibration alerts, which the Motoactv doesn't DS.
Gadgety said:
First real review I've ever read of the I'm Watch anywhere. Thank you! Let us know if there are improvements in the software. It does sound underpowered in terms of memory, and weird that it doesn't show pictures with the address/contacts. What's the point of that pixeldense screen, then. What about finish? Look classy, would you say. How are people reacting to it?
PS. My interest went away with the Wifi, although at least it does have vibration alerts, which the Motoactv doesn't DS.
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There have been a couple of firmware updates but no noticeable changes.
The watch itself performs fine, not slow really - just not zippy.
The screen looks good, I uploaded a couple of pictures and it zooms in and out without lagging.
A photo of the contact popping up when the phone rings should be a compulsory addition to the firmware :-/
I bought the basic black/silver plastic version, it doesn't draw any attention and feels OK.
Vibration alerts? I haven't noticed them....
I have been very concerned with the company - they haven't responded to any contact for weeks and a few people on G+ haven't received their watches yet.
I received my IM watch last week.
I have noticed the following:
It hates recconecting to my galaxy note when it goes out of range
Even with bluetooth keep alive, it likes to disconnect randomly
My bluetooth speakerphone ont he phone is nearly unsuable, either choppy, or not being able to hear anything on the watch.
The apps are craptastic and unusable (for example facebook updates once a day)
It REALLY needs companion software that runs on the phone. Actually, it really needs someone to hack the firmware so it can have custom applications developed for it, the update process is quite easy (upload a rom to the update folder and reboot) and it seems to have something similiar to CW recovery on it.)
It REALLY REALLY feels like an unfinished product, especially considering their firmware versions is 0.5.0. I have a support call arranged with them tomorrow, im not holding my breath.
What are other peoples experiences with the speakerphone? If the apps dont work well (apart from the weather) it would be nice to at least get the speakerphone to work correctly.
alexanderfoti said:
I received my IM watch last week.
I have noticed the following:
It hates reconnecting to my galaxy note when it goes out of range Yep
Even with bluetooth keep alive, it likes to disconnect randomlyNot had this issue
My bluetooth speakerphone on the phone is nearly unusable, either choppy, or not being able to hear anything on the watch.Not had this, I've only used this once and it was fine
The apps are craptastic and unusable (for example facebook updates once a day) Yep, definitely needs more/better apps
It REALLY needs companion software that runs on the phone. Actually, it really needs someone to hack the firmware so it can have custom applications developed for it, the update process is quite easy (upload a rom to the update folder and reboot) and it seems to have something similar to CW recovery on it.) Yep, the i'mCloud is OK but I detest relying on online services. The company have released 'How to' develop apps but there's no way to load them on the watch to test them!
It REALLY REALLY feels like an unfinished product, especially considering their firmware versions is 0.5.0. I have a support call arranged with them tomorrow, im not holding my breath. Yep, I feel like a beta tester
What are other peoples experiences with the speakerphone? If the apps dont work well (apart from the weather) it would be nice to at least get the speakerphone to work correctly.
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No problems myself and music is quite clear

Verizon Galaxy Nexus landing in Best Buy on December 11th?

Verizon Galaxy Nexus landing in Best Buy on December 11th?
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The release dates we've been hearing for the Verizon version of the Galaxy Nexus have been all over the map. The latest rumors had it pegged for December 8th, and that still may be true for official Big Red shops, but now a source inside Best Buy is telling us the big box electronics retailer won't have them in stock until the 11th. The image above, supposedly taken from a Best Buy inventory system, lists the SCH-i515 as hitting the stock room on December 11th of 2011. What it doesn't list, however, is a street date. The phones could go on sale that day, or the next or a week later -- it's really all just guesswork without an official announcement. While the photos certainly seem legit, there are a few discrepancies that give us pause. Particularly, the lighter weight and thinner profile than what is listed on the Google specs page -- 9.34mm versus 9.47mm and 140g instead of 150. But, we're not writing this off as a fake just yet.
Source: Engadget
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Verizon Galaxy Nexus landing in Best Buy on December 11th?
The release dates we've been hearing for the Verizon version of the Galaxy Nexus have been all over the map. The latest rumors had it pegged for December 8th, and that still may be true for official Big Red shops, but now a source inside Best Buy is telling us the big box electronics retailer won't have them in stock until the 11th. The image above, supposedly taken from a Best Buy inventory system, lists the SCH-i515 as hitting the stock room on December 11th of 2011. What it doesn't list, however, is a street date. The phones could go on sale that day, or the next or a week later -- it's really all just guesswork without an official announcement. While the photos certainly seem legit, there are a few discrepancies that give us pause. Particularly, the lighter weight and thinner profile than what is listed on the Google specs page -- 9.34mm versus 9.47mm and 140g instead of 150. But, we're not writing this off as a fake just yet.
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You think this is legit? All I know is that I'm tired of waiting. Seeing rumored dates come and go is discouraging. I was definitely hoping for early to mid November release.
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You think this is legit? All I know is that I'm tired of waiting. Seeing rumored dates come and go is discouraging. I was definitely hoping for early to mid November release.
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Honestly, I don't know what to make of it all. I can only hope that VZW is urging Samsung to make some changes for the better. For instance, just like the US version will have LTE, a bigger battery, and a different color, maybe we're getting a revamped version altogether. Super AMOLED+ HD screen with full RGB? SD Card? TI OMAP 4470 w/PowerVR SGX 544? This is all very wishful thinking . Ha ha!
VZW is so hush hush about everything. I'd just like to have something concrete to go on.
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Honestly, I don't know what to make of it all. I can only hope that VZW is urging Samsung to make some changes for the better. For instance, just like the US version will have LTE, a bigger battery, and a different color, maybe we're getting a revamped version altogether. Super AMOLED+ HD screen with full RGB? SD Card? TI OMAP 4470 w/PowerVR SGX 544? This is all very wishful thinking . Ha ha!
VZW is so hush hush about everything. I'd just like to have something concrete to go on.
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Its most likely software improvements. A story on engadget showed a Verizon nexus with 4.1 on it!
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Well it is a sign that December is going to be the month for the release..Unfortunately for everyone eager to get their hands on the Ice Cream Sandwich-powered Samsung Galaxy Nexus, we’ve heard of no official release date. And until we do, rumors will have to suffice.
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Well it is a sign that December is going to be the month for the release..Unfortunately for everyone eager to get their hands on the Ice Cream Sandwich-powered Samsung Galaxy Nexus, we’ve heard of no official release date. And until we do, rumors will have to suffice.
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Regardless of the date I'm willing to wait. I'm not copping out and switching phones due to impatience. I want it bad enough.
The Verizon employee today at the store (when asked about the GN) simply replied "I dunno"
A clueless Verizon employee? No, I'm shocked! Looks like the new target date is the 15th btw. So ridiculous though, the phones are literally just sitting in boxes at Verizon stores ready to go...
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I got to play around with one today in a store, and they are awesome! It wasn't activated, per se, only on wifi. It's HUGE! Very, very fast, camera is nice, and it will soon be in my posession!
I played witj the rezound last night and was not that impressed. Music was nice, but the sense 3. 5 was laggy like on my dinc. I can upgrade the 29th and actually thinking of a slightly older cheaper phone that has good development established. No way will i drop $300 on a phone, its ridiculous.
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I played witj the rezound last night and was not that impressed. Music was nice, but the sense 3. 5 was laggy like on my dinc. I can upgrade the 29th and actually thinking of a slightly older cheaper phone that has good development established. No way will i drop $300 on a phone, its ridiculous.
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That's unacceptable for a phone with that good of hardware. I think the nexus will have great development for it but its 300 too. Inc2 or tbolt for you maybe?
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There are so many bloatware apps loaded on the Rezound, it's not even funny. My RAM would actually get down to as low as sub 100MB at times. That would cause the phone to become sluggish. After killing everything off, it was as fast as all get up. Once the bloat slowly started to repopulate, the cycle repeated. I can only imagine how terrible the display model would perform after being hammered throughout the day.
The major problem for me was that the preloaded apps on the Rezound were very intrusive, and wouldn't play nice. Either I could deal with a less than stellar amount of RAM (out of 1GB), or try to free some up and enjoy the phone. I ended up spending so much time killing unwanted background apps, only to have them start back up. Of course, that turned into a battery drainer. I truly understand now why 3rd party task managers are pretty much useless nowadays.
I just couldn't deal with it anymore. The temp root wasn't ideal, mostly hit or miss (no fault of the dev). If it worked, in the middle of getting the system set up just the way I like it, temp root would just stop working. Reboot, try again. Not pleasant. So, I said forget it and returned it. However, once the Rezound gets s-off & permanent root, I'm sure it'll live up to its name. Until then...
Thanks Verizon! You took an otherwise awesome device and ruined the experience. You should be ashamed, but you're not. Instead, you're trying your very best to ruin a pure Google phone experience as well. You've already forced BackUpManager & My Verizon apps onto the GNex, one of which consumers are very capable of downloading if they want it. To top it all off, you've delayed the release date into dangerous territory. After a certain point, lots of people are going to just let it go.
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Logistics of keeping a Note 7

I know there's been a ton of posts about returning or keeping or whatever you gonna do with your note seven but just wanted to try to get all the information together in one thread.
What we know :
There is a voluntary recall
The major carriers want you return your device immediately
The US CPSC says "to power down immediately"
Samsung is discontinuing support and updates for it
The phone is banned from all us flights
Small possibility or device could overheat and catch fire
Alternative devices at this point are not comparable
At this point you can do two things, keep it or exchange it. Viable alternatives being HTC 10, LG V20, and Google Pixel / Pixel XL. I don't really want any of those phones so ....
As far is keeping it goes...
I doubt the TSA will be able identify on the spot a note 7 and tell you you can't board whatever flight.
I've heard stories about carriers blacklisting IMEI numbers, but only after a return was initiated. There's another post on here showing a verizon rep acknowledging that they cannot force you to return your device. I also doubt that carriers will refuse to provide service to "known" note 7 devices. Show from here I think the only drawback to keeping your device is a small chance that you have a defective unit and the lack of updates and support .
In cedar in the discontinued updates and support, what does that really mean? Besides a new or latest version of android, which can be easily ported over or manually flashed, we'll miss out on continued firmware support and development.
However if the phone works as is, and there doesn't seem to be any major flaws in the hardware (which there doesn't to me), do we really even need those?
TL ; DR - By keeping the note 7 we're only really missing out on firmware updates , and with that in mind , it doesn't seem that crazy to me to keep it .
EDIT: "mandatory" to voluntary
Since Personal Safety and the Safety of those around one, it should be advised by all to power the device down and return it for proper disposal by the manufacturer. One can only imagine that what ever Samsung comes out with when they do will be well worth it I'm sure, They have a lot of repair to do. Just my .02 cents.
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There is no mandatory recall it is voluntary.....
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I know there's been a ton of posts about returning or keeping or whatever you gonna do with your note seven but just wanted to try to get all the information together in one thread.
What we know :
There is a "mandatory" recall
The major carriers want you return your device immediately
The US CPSC says "to power down immediately"
Samsung is discontinuing support and updates for it
The phone is banned from all us flights
Small possibility or device could overheat and catch fire
Alternative devices at this point are not comparable
At this point you can do two things, keep it or exchange it. Viable alternatives being HTC 10, LG V20, and Google Pixel / Pixel XL. I don't really want any of those phones so ....
As far is keeping it goes...
I doubt the TSA will be able identify on the spot a note 7 and tell you you can't board whatever flight.
I've heard stories about carriers blacklisting IMEI numbers, but only after a return was initiated. There's another post on here showing a verizon rep acknowledging that they cannot force you to return your device. I also doubt that carriers will refuse to provide service to "known" note 7 devices. Show from here I think the only drawback to keeping your device is a small chance that you have a defective unit and the lack of updates and support .
In cedar in the discontinued updates and support, what does that really mean? Besides a new or latest version of android, which can be easily ported over or manually flashed, we'll miss out on continued firmware support and development.
However if the phone works as is, and there doesn't seem to be any major flaws in the hardware (which there doesn't to me), do we really even need those?
TL ; DR - By keeping the note 7 we're only really missing out on firmware updates , and with that in mind , it doesn't seem that crazy to me to keep it .
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Read from the source it even says voluntary:
http://www.samsung.com/us/note7recall/
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They can keep the 3rd party support and updates. I never bought those anyways.
At worst, they will bump you off the network(s) which leaves a pretty desirable wifi only business companion except if you fly or work in a fireworks factory. Bumping from networks, forcing wifi only operation, does nothing to eliminate the risk of fire so I'm not sure about this one. They would need a total brick job.
I just received an S Notes update today. So much for no more updates. I know that it is not a 3rd party of security update but just sayin'.
Whether or not you will be expected to pay to keep it remains to be seen and time will tell. IF they are pretending the Note 7 doesn't exist then that could get interesting as well. This isn't Kickstarter here....
If I went iPhone 7 route I could retain my annual upgrade. Sammy can keep their $75 loyalty bonus for that matter.
Truth be told, if I am forced to, I will get a Note 5 off Swappa out side the Verizon network.
The way I see it is there is a big difference between a voluntary recall and a mandatory recall. Some are acting like this is a mandatory recall when in fact it is voluntary meaning they are not going to disable your phone you can continue as normal and then when the time comes because the phone is under recall you can simply return it and upgrade to a new device whenever you find one that suits your needs. The only caveat is there will be no software updates to the operating system for security patches but that's not the worst thing in the world. They are only disabling phones that have been scheduled to be returned other than that I don't think they can legally disabled all the phones unless it becomes a mandatory recall.
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Here's the facts:
- Only 90 or so phones out of probably millions at this point have had this issue.
- The defect showed itself within the first several days of use.
- Samsung Techs were unable to cause a meltdown in their Labs. This proves that this will only happen if you have one of the few defective devices and they didn't find one.
Given the facts, here's my thoughts on the "personal safety and safety of those around you" statement. If you have used you're phone for over a month with no issues then it isn't a defective device. My phone hasn't even gotten hot at any time and has operated perfectly even after rooting.
Another possibility here is that there is a rare combination of APP(s) + use that is causing a unique condition for this to happen. Now here goes the conspiracy theory. It may even be that an unnamed competitor, after discovering this vulnerability, staged these meltdowns for bad PR. The incident on the plane was an absolute worst case for Samsung's image and exactly what someone wishing to damage it would have staged.
For the safety of those around me I'll be attaching this warning label
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Isn't it a federal crime to bring the Note 7 on a flight now? If mine didnt lag so bad I would consider keeping it but not take it on a plane.
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Isn't it a federal crime to bring the Note 7 on a flight now? If mine didnt lag so bad I would consider keeping it but not take it on a plane.
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I see from you sig that you have xposed installed, lag seems to be a common problem with some of the exposed modules. I uninstalled immediately due to lack of features and the lag issue.
I sold my perfect condition Note 3 modified to Developer Edition on eBay but I do have another Note 3 with a minor screen crack which I plan to activate for any flights.....until next fall when the Note 8 arrives. (or whatever they nename it to for marketing purposes)
I would expect Samsung to continue their investigation and ultimately track down the defect. If it's possible to patch with software they may offer this to the many thousands that I'm sure will be keeping their phones. I actually talked to the Costco rep who said he still wanted a Note 7. The recall over a handful of defective phones isn't putting off a huge number of owners.
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I see from you sig that you have xposed installed, lag seems to be a common problem with some of the exposed modules. I uninstalled immediately due to lack of features and the lag issue.
I sold my perfect condition Note 3 modified to Developer Edition on eBay but I do have another Note 3 with a minor screen crack which I plan to activate for any flights.....until next fall when the Note 8 arrives. (or whatever they nename it to for marketing purposes)
I would expect Samsung to continue their investigation and ultimately track down the defect. If it's possible to patch with software they may offer this to the many thousands that I'm sure will be keeping their phones. I actually talked to the Costco rep who said he still wanted a Note 7. The recall over a handful of defective phones isn't putting off a huge number of owners.
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I don't think its xposed, when im screen mirroring, using gps, streaming music, and charging (aka in my car) it gets so hot the whole system UI crashes.
Neither of my N7's get hot or lag at all. Never have. This is the first phone in many years I have not rooted. I do have package disabler pro to disable the VZ bloat and the udate SDM apk's. No freezing, never overheats or gets hot, great battery life. Almost a perfect phone. I do use Nova Launcher, but that shouldn't matter for anything with lag/no lag. The N7 is pretty much everything I ever wanted in a phone. Not a fan of the curved display since you can't get a tempered screen protector that works for it, and the mono speaker is not very good, but those are about my only complaints (besides a non-removable battery that has overheated in 100 some of the 3 or 4 million N7's out there).
@jellyhead nice graphics lol, I'll probably do something similar
Does anyone (that's keeping it) know if you can get any of these "recall perks" without returning it? Like any of the bill credits Samsung or the carriers are offering or money back for accessories?
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Neither of my N7's get hot or lag at all...... I do use Nova Launcher, but that shouldn't matter for anything with lag/no lag. ....
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Off topic, but was wondering.. when changing launchers do you lose the software for the stylus? does it still work?
crash613 said:
Off topic, but was wondering.. when changing launchers do you lose the software for the stylus? does it still work?
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I'm using Nova and I still get S Pen options when pulling it out
crash613 said:
Off topic, but was wondering.. when changing launchers do you lose the software for the stylus? does it still work?
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No, you don't lose anything going to Nova launcher. Nova is waaaay better than touchwiz. Not even close, at least for me.

Bugs!Bugs!Bugs!

It would be a pure miracle if brand new OS's like Android were released without bugs. But we are not living in a utopia - Android 7.1.1 is extremely buggy. (BTW, if you are not experiencing bugs, your settings and apps installed are very different, and not at all like mine. Hence the bugs - they are not features, they appear when they please, for different setups.) One of the latest bugs is the "Android OS" battery drain. I have my Pixel XL set up like the rest of my phones - minimal notifications, minimal features, minimal drain. And until 7.1.1 and the latest "Google" app update, my stuff was working just fine.
Enter the newest update, BAM! We have battery drain from "Android OS." No battery drain before 7.1.1! Double battery drain after!
Here are the actual numbers.
Normal battery drain with a smartwatch connected, most basic push notifications enabled like Gmail, wifi on - about 0.5% battery per hour. Phone awake time is about 10% or less, depending on settings.
New, abnormal battery drain, with a new Google app - drain is at least double, 1+% per hour, phone awake time is at least 20+% time.
This used to be a problem before. Then they fixed it. Now it is here again!
It's as if these people keep reusing the same basic and buggy code!
Is it possible? Google started hiring coding people who reuse buggy original code without even checking what was wrong with it in the first place?
Sorry to hear your having problem. Mine has been buttery smooth since day one. Only issue I ever had was using open wifi networks but that I fixed but turning off the setting to automatically connect to open wifi networks, which is of no use to me anyway as I know all the places that I go that have free wifi and they are all saved to my phone.
M9guy said:
Sorry to hear your having problem. Mine has been buttery smooth since day one. Only issue I ever had was using open wifi networks but that I fixed but turning off the setting to automatically connect to open wifi networks, which is of no use to me anyway as I know all the places that I go that have free wifi and they are all saved to my phone.
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Thank you. I've just been very frustrated with the inability of the coolest company in the world to fix the most obvious bugs.
It's like their ideology has become "innovate first, fix problems at the very last moment, no matter the cost." So many bugs!
And I've been using Samsung phones, intertwined with a few Nexus and HTC devices, for the last 3 years - their update schedule is atrocious, but at least they release nearly flawless updates. Also, their software is top notch, aside from the lag and non-functioning S-Voice, which one can disable.
But the Google Bluetooth problems have been around for literally years. And the "Android OS" battery drain bug has been around for a few years. They keep fixing it, and keep reintroducing it. It seems like whoever is in charge of their Bluetooth department is a complete moron. Same for Android OS battery drain bug.
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It's like their ideology has become "innovate first, fix problems at the very last moment, no matter the cost." So many bugs!
And I've been using Samsung phones, intertwined with a few Nexus and HTC devices, for the last 3 years - their update schedule is atrocious, but at least they release nearly flawless updates. Also, their software is top notch, aside from the lag and non-functioning S-Voice, which one can disable.
But the Google Bluetooth problems have been around for literally years. And the "Android OS" battery drain bug has been around for a few years. They keep fixing it, and keep reintroducing it. It seems like whoever is in charge of their Bluetooth department is a complete moron. Same for Android OS battery drain bug.
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OMG, this post made LOL for real. The best part...
"nearly flawless updates. Also, their software is top notch, aside from the lag and non-functioning S-Voice"
Aside from Lag, LOL.
Sorry that was funny!
But back to your issue. I checked my devices and I am not getting any drain. I am on 7.1.1 with Elemental X 1.02 Kernel. Right now I am at 12 hours with 20% battery use with a prediction of another 48 hours.
Can you screenshot your battery screen so I can see it?
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I'm sure Samsung would love to have these "problems" right now.
quangtran1 said:
I'm sure Samsung would love to have these "problems" right now.
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Hehe... I am guessing a Note 7 reference?
Scott said:
Hehe... I am guessing a Note 7 reference?
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Lol.
Scott said:
OMG, this post made LOL for real. The best part...
"nearly flawless updates. Also, their software is top notch, aside from the lag and non-functioning S-Voice"
Aside from Lag, LOL.
Sorry that was funny!
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I don't understand. You are a developer with 65k thanks votes yet you seem to suggest that lag elimination is more important than squashing of bugs? Do you work for Google, because that seems to be their strategy now? Maybe because iPhones are faster, even though they are complete ****...
I am sorry but currently I cannot use my BT car kit, Motorola Roadster 2, because a BT bug disables it when I'm wearing my beautiful Huawei watch with a custom shiny band. I'm sorry but my battery is draining twice faster than it used to after the latest Google app update. And I'm sorry if I like my Samsung Note 7, which tried to do too much and was crucified by the press. It was 10 times the phone my current Pixel XL is. Oh yeah, Note 7 didn't have the BT bug. Life was good!
Here - some real life sentiment injected for genuineness.
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But back to your issue. I checked my devices and I am not getting any drain. I am on 7.1.1 with Elemental X 1.02 Kernel. Right now I am at 12 hours with 20% battery use with a prediction of another 48 hours.
Can you screenshot your battery screen so I can see it?
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You don't want to see my screenshot. It's much better than yours even after the Android OS bug. My Pixel XL is currently draining about 1% per hour when it's idle. That is about twice of what it used to do before the latest Google app update. And yours is even twice more!
How can you not see these problems?!
I just never understand why Samsung fans come on Google phone forums and rant like they actually own the devices in question. By the time they end the tirade I'd have sold my "flawed" device and gone back to my Sammy. This has been going on since the N5 with a huge rant in the 5x forum and now in the Pixel and the XL. But to be fair there are Moto fans doing it too. Not many iPhone users, a testament to the phone since they will almost never buy an Android. Bottom line, why don't they just sell it or even better why buy it, if they actually do. It's interesting that there are usually no screen shots backing up the claims of Google bugs (bugs! x3) One bug was simply not enough. I just don't get it. Sell it already!!! (x3)
Its very possible your phone is having issues yet I haven't seen anything that indicates you have tried to fix said issues . Have you done a factory reset ? Have you tried to clear caches ? Is it an app on your phone causing these issues ? I only ask these questions mainly due to the fact the other manufacturers you listed in your post would ask you to do the same thing . As for Scott he has been developing roms since as far back as I can remember and has done nothing but outstanding work . I have personally ran his roms and can honestly say he knows what he is talking about . It was his software I started using when I first started rooting etc etc . As for bugs in OS updates I have seen them on everything from HTC , Samsung , Moto , LG and Apple . I would advise relaxing,doing some digging around to find others who have said problems and utilizing whatever fixes they have applied to correct the issues you mentioned .
It is too bad the op needs to use offensive terms to express him/herself...
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Its very possible your phone is having issues yet I haven't seen anything that indicates you have tried to fix said issues . Have you done a factory reset ? Have you tried to clear caches ? Is it an app on your phone causing these issues ? I only ask these questions mainly due to the fact the other manufacturers you listed in your post would ask you to do the same thing . As for Scott he has been developing roms since as far back as I can remember and has done nothing but outstanding work . I have personally ran his roms and can honestly say he knows what he is talking about . It was his software I started using when I first started rooting etc etc . As for bugs in OS updates I have seen them on everything from HTC , Samsung , Moto , LG and Apple . I would advise relaxing,doing some digging around to find others who have said problems and utilizing whatever fixes they have applied to correct the issues you mentioned .
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Have I done a factory reset? Yes, when Project Fi was just isn't working, and I was on the phone with a Google rep for 90 minutes, I did a factory reset. It fixed the issue with project FI.
Have I tried to clear caches? Yes, I have cleared caches and sometimes data for many apps.
I am beginning to see a pattern.. Are you suggesting that my problems with bugs are of my own doing?
As if I'm using specific settings that only I prefer and apps only I prefer that are breaking a brand new os, that is completely bug free...
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It is too bad the op needs to use offensive terms to express him/herself...
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Offensive?
3/7
Pretty OK attempt to piss people off but a lot of us saw right through it. I'm not here to defend my Pixel XL (which is amazing), I'm actually just here to pick apart your argument. Newsflash: The Note 7, battery issues aside, sucked. (See: With the Note 7, Samsung Still Delivers Embarrassing Real-World Performance).
No screenshots to backup your complaints and your insults and bragging are as ridiculous as the thread title. Someone refutes your claims with actual proof and you claim it's much worse but preface this whole conversation with "Well, if you don't have this battery drain problem it's because you don't use the same apps as me". OK, so is that an Android issue or is it an app issue? I'll admit that Google frameworks updates have caused wakelock and battery drain issues in the past on my N5X and N5, but they were usually easily remedied. Not every release is perfect. Even a company like Apple, developing a new iOS update for only a handful of devices (not thousands of different ones like Android), struggles with smooth releases.
If you hate the phone so much, sell it. I'm sure someone else would love to have it as a late Christmas gift.
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3/7
Pretty OK attempt to piss people off but a lot of us saw right through it. I'm not here to defend my Pixel XL (which is amazing), I'm actually just here to pick apart your argument. Newsflash: The Note 7, battery issues aside, sucked. (See: With the Note 7, Samsung Still Delivers Embarrassing Real-World Performance).
No screenshots to backup your complaints and your insults and bragging are as ridiculous as the thread title. Someone refutes your claims with actual proof and you claim it's much worse but preface this whole conversation with "Well, if you don't have this battery drain problem it's because you don't use the same apps as me". OK, so is that an Android issue or is it an app issue? I'll admit that Google frameworks updates have caused wakelock and battery drain issues in the past on my N5X and N5, but they were usually easily remedied. Not every release is perfect. Even a company like Apple, developing a new iOS update for only a handful of devices (not thousands of different ones like Android), struggles with smooth releases.
If you hate the phone so much, sell it. I'm sure someone else would love to have it as a late Christmas gift.
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"Pretty OK attempt to piss people off"
You are crazy. That was not my intention at all. I'm sorry you felt that way.
"but a lot of us saw right through it"
You are double crazy to think that you have some kind of an army against me.
"I'm not here to defend my Pixel XL (which is amazing)"
You are literally doing the defending.
I'll skip pointless drivel that follows...
"Not every release is perfect."
No, this one is not perfect! This is my whole point!
How can you blindly praise an OS so buggy?
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"Pretty OK attempt to piss people off"
You are crazy. That was not my intention at all. I'm sorry you felt that way.
"but a lot of us saw right through it"
You are double crazy to think that you have some kind of an army against me.
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You can't apologize about making me feel a certain way and then immediately backhand me with an insult like "you're crazy".
It's also not an army, it's a dozen or so users that disagree with almost everything you're saying.
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"I'm not here to defend my Pixel XL (which is amazing)"
You are literally doing the defending.
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Because I stated my opinion of it being amazing? This is the one and only time I mention the Pixel XL, so I'm not sure how I'm defending it. If I had my N5X my attitude would still be the same. Is your argument against Android or is it the Pixel? Or is it Google? Hmm.
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I'll skip pointless drivel that follows...
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Ok? You skipped the meat and potatoes of my post because you have no retort.
nabbed said:
"Not every release is perfect."
No, this one is not perfect! This is my whole point!
How can you blindly praise an OS so buggy?
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Let me rephrase: No release is perfect.
Now, let me ask you something. Do you update your computer? Do you like to update the apps you use every day? What's guaranteed to be on a change log for an update? Bug Fixes. Why are you holding Android (but only stock Android, not Samsung's bloated rendition) to a much higher standard? I'm blindly praising Android as much as you're blindly praising Samsung and your Nade Note 7.
Let me ask you something else. You say you're not trolling so what is the point of this thread? To see if anyone agrees with you? To fire up this silent majority of people that secretly hate their brand new phone? You can be disappointed with your flagship phone all you want, but you don't have to force your opinion on others. I'm always down for a civilized conversation but I won't tolerate insults as a rebuttal. I'm sorry you're disappointed with your phone or Android in general and I hope that you find the phone you're looking for. Maybe the Note 8 will be your cup of tea. Or maybe check out the OP3T, but be careful, it's running the latest release of Android.
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You can't apologize about making me feel a certain way and then immediately backhand me with an insult like "you're crazy".
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Apologize to you... Right.
I actually laughed out loud when I read that.
I don't normally do that.
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Apologize to you... Right.
I actually laughed out loud when I read that.
I don't normally do that.
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Where's the screenshots of you're battery stats.
The plot thickens......
Don't even tell me you guys got punked again.
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General 9 Months to go

...before I go back to the next iPhone. After being an Android user for many years I switched to an iPhone 2 years ago and thought I give Android another try with the Pixel 6 but the experience has been more than bad. There is not a single function in this phone that works better than or even close as good as an iPhone. The list of things that don't work or work like crap becomes longer every day. Android 12 just feels like Linux on a phone. The AI chip is a complete joke. Even after 2 months, the phone has not even learned my first name right and consistently suggest Stefan instead of Stephan. Who needs an AI chip if a simple thing like that does not work? Dual sim is a pain in the ass, the iPhone knows that if somebody calls me on one sim cars that's probably the one that I want him back. That's not AI but just common sense. Not on my Pixel, I have to select the sim for every contact and if somebody calls me that is not in my phone and I want to call him back I have to tell what sim card I want to use every time. In what world does somebody call you on your work sim, and then you call him back on your private number, or the other way around? Who needs a stupid robot that answers calls from unknown callers when simple **** like that does not work? And this just goes on from Android Auto that they completely screwed up to Bluetooth that doesn't connect to device that I connected to a million times before. This phone is broken beyond repair, and no patch that Google releases will fix it.
Thanks for stopping by.
Too bad you like to suffer.
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...before I go back to the next iPhone. After being an Android user for many years I switched to an iPhone 2 years ago and thought I give Android another try with the Pixel 6 but the experience has been more than bad. There is not a single function in this phone that works better than or even close as good as an iPhone. The list of things that don't work or work like crap becomes longer every day. Android 12 just feels like Linux on a phone. The AI chip is a complete joke. Even after 2 months, the phone has not even learned my first name right and consistently suggest Stefan instead of Stephan. Who needs an AI chip if a simple thing like that does not work? Dual sim is a pain in the ass, the iPhone knows that if somebody calls me on one sim cars that's probably the one that I want him back. That's not AI but just common sense. Not on my Pixel, I have to select the sim for every contact and if somebody calls me that is not in my phone and I want to call him back I have to tell what sim card I want to use every time. In what world does somebody call you on your work sim, and then you call him back on your private number, or the other way around? Who needs a stupid robot that answers calls from unknown callers when simple **** like that does not work? And this just goes on from Android Auto that they completely screwed up to Bluetooth that doesn't connect to device that I connected to a million times before. This phone is broken beyond repair, and no patch that Google releases will fix it.
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I suggest you don't wait 9 months and sell the P6P now while the value is still high. Get the the iphone asap, and be happy.
I never understand why people put themselves through so much heartache/headache when the answer is so simple...in their own use-case of course.
Be quicker to change your name - hope that helps.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out!
Alrighty...
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...before I go back to the next iPhone. After being an Android user for many years I switched to an iPhone 2 years ago and thought I give Android another try with the Pixel 6 but the experience has been more than bad. There is not a single function in this phone that works better than or even close as good as an iPhone. The list of things that don't work or work like crap becomes longer every day. Android 12 just feels like Linux on a phone.
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To be fair, Android offers a horse load of features that Apple does not offer - Pixels in es-special. It's easier to navigate and bugfix ten features, than fourty. It's no excuse though that Android 12 - at the moment - has more bugs than should be.
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The AI chip is a complete joke. Even after 2 months, the phone has not even learned my first name right and consistently suggest Stefan instead of Stephan.
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You need to ("can") manually modify the pronunciation of your name in Google Assistant settings.
Call up Google Assistant
Tap the Settings button from the bottom menu.
Scroll down and tap “Basic Info” then select “Nickname.”
Tap “Play” to hear Google Assistant’s current pronunciation.
To change it using your voice, select “Record your own.
Does Apple do this automatically? That would be interesting to know. My best guess is, if Siri pronounces it the way you want, it's because that's the only way she knows how to pronounce it - and all the "Stefans" would probably flame Apple now.
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Who needs an AI chip if a simple thing like that does not work? Dual sim is a pain in the ass, the iPhone knows that if somebody calls me on one sim cars that's probably the one that I want him back. That's not AI but just common sense. Not on my Pixel, I have to select the sim for every contact and if somebody calls me that is not in my phone and I want to call him back I have to tell what sim card I want to use every time. In what world does somebody call you on your work sim, and then you call him back on your private number, or the other way around?
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Instead of opting in for a "real" active dual-sim approach, Google went the hybrid/passive ESIM approach, meaning there is only ever one sim active, the other one is in constant passive, just "listening" in. That's the "inferior" approach. Plus the handling of calls is not done properly, as you explained. That's certainly an area where Google should improve.
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Who needs a stupid robot that answers calls from unknown callers when simple **** like that does not work?
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Most people I know use a work phone for work, meaning - imho - that the majority of users in total will not use dual sim. That's probably why this is not a huge priority for Google.
Please don't go down the path "oh, this doesn't work - HOW DARE THAT THING OVER THERE EXISTS" - Google is a ginormous company and I am kind of glad that they are working on several projects at once, and not spending all their time "refining" one feature. Of course that's no excuse for them releasing a buggy mess.
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And this just goes on from Android Auto that they completely screwed up
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Are you using the version with cable or wireless? Cable seems to work so-so, wireless seems to be messed up. Since Samsung users are also affected by this, that's probably an Android 12 bug, not an "exclusive" Pixel 6 problem - of course that helps you very little.
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to Bluetooth that doesn't connect to device that I connected to a million times before.
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Which kind of devices can't you pair? I haven't got that problem yet. There were some people here on XDA that reported problems with external DACs & specialized hearing aids - beyond that, not so much, at least not to my knowledge.
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This phone is broken beyond repair, and no patch that Google releases will fix it.
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Seriously?
Since all the issues you reported are purely Software, of course Google can fix that. So it's not broken beyond repair. I know that you probably exaggerated here, but still, wording. Wording.
For what it's worth (yet again), for the past two months plus that I've had my Pixel 6 Pro, I haven't had any problems with Android Auto. I've been using Android Auto for four years now and I've rarely had any problem, in the 3-4 cars of all different makes and models I've used it in (at least 1-2 were rentals). I know I've been lucky, as some car/head unit OEMs don't implement Android Auto the same way, or at the same quality.
Whenever I've started having problems with a wired Android Auto connection dropping occasionally (I haven't had any head units that support wireless AA), a change to a fresh quality (OEM or Anker) cable has always done the trick.
This looks like a cry for attention. If you really hate the phone that much, return it and buy what you want. There is no need to moan about it on a forum.
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...before I go back to the next iPhone. After being an Android user for many years I switched to an iPhone 2 years ago and thought I give Android another try with the Pixel 6 but the experience has been more than bad. There is not a single function in this phone that works better than or even close as good as an iPhone. The list of things that don't work or work like crap becomes longer every day. Android 12 just feels like Linux on a phone. The AI chip is a complete joke. Even after 2 months, the phone has not even learned my first name right and consistently suggest Stefan instead of Stephan. Who needs an AI chip if a simple thing like that does not work? Dual sim is a pain in the ass, the iPhone knows that if somebody calls me on one sim cars that's probably the one that I want him back. That's not AI but just common sense. Not on my Pixel, I have to select the sim for every contact and if somebody calls me that is not in my phone and I want to call him back I have to tell what sim card I want to use every time. In what world does somebody call you on your work sim, and then you call him back on your private number, or the other way around? Who needs a stupid robot that answers calls from unknown callers when simple **** like that does not work? And this just goes on from Android Auto that they completely screwed up to Bluetooth that doesn't connect to device that I connected to a million times before. This phone is broken beyond repair, and no patch that Google releases will fix it.
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We're you beaten as a child? This sounds like a rant from a 5 year old. This is a forum, not Dr. Phil. If you don't like it, sell it. Coming to XDA to complain about how much you dislike a phone is as arbitrary as driving in the fast lane. No one will like you...
Mods, close this thread. I'm reporting it.
The fact you came on here to post your need for attention says it all really. Don't forget to hit up any groups on TG your in also as i'm sure they will all want to know how upset you are with a phone that you'd rather cry about with your little hissy fit than actually just go and change which *anyone with common sense* would do. Before the *fanboi* word gets thrown anywhere this is my first Pixel, had it a few weeks and really Im already bored. Not by the device itself though just the small majority whinning and throwing their toys out of the pram. I really do hope you have a better experience with an Apple though truly.
Buck up little camper, put your big boy boots on and move on...
stephanstricker said:
...before I go back to the next iPhone. After being an Android user for many years I switched to an iPhone 2 years ago and thought I give Android another try with the Pixel 6 but the experience has been more than bad. There is not a single function in this phone that works better than or even close as good as an iPhone. The list of things that don't work or work like crap becomes longer every day. Android 12 just feels like Linux on a phone. The AI chip is a complete joke. Even after 2 months, the phone has not even learned my first name right and consistently suggest Stefan instead of Stephan. Who needs an AI chip if a simple thing like that does not work? Dual sim is a pain in the ass, the iPhone knows that if somebody calls me on one sim cars that's probably the one that I want him back. That's not AI but just common sense. Not on my Pixel, I have to select the sim for every contact and if somebody calls me that is not in my phone and I want to call him back I have to tell what sim card I want to use every time. In what world does somebody call you on your work sim, and then you call him back on your private number, or the other way around? Who needs a stupid robot that answers calls from unknown callers when simple **** like that does not work? And this just goes on from Android Auto that they completely screwed up to Bluetooth that doesn't connect to device that I connected to a million times before. This phone is broken beyond repair, and no patch that Google releases will fix it.
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Best way to close this thread is to starve it. Enough feeding let's move on.
Just dripping fresh blood on the vampire's grave...
OP, you're a glutton for dysfunctional UIs.
Try a Samsung, but none of the current ones
Sammy's only slightly dysfunctional but can be reeducated
iPhones, yes well... no SD card slot or reasonably price memory, parts, etc. Who gets all that money? It sure isn't the slave labor assemblers.
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We're you beaten as a child? This sounds like a rant from a 5 year old. This is a forum, not Dr. Phil. If you don't like it, sell it. Coming to XDA to complain about how much you dislike a phone is as arbitrary as driving in the fast lane. No one will like you...
Mods, close this thread. I'm reporting it.
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The dude is unhappiest man ever!

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