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Galaxy Nexus LTE pic, ew.

http://www.1review2day.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-a-little-bigger-in-the-lte-version/
I thought about getting it but they ruined it!
Anybody have thoughts on this? Mat black rather than metal? Ugh... That signature curve is now a block rofl.
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When i first saw the images of the LTE version i was disgusted. The color choice and the added bulkiness definitely took away from the sleak design. I'm happy with the E4GT and i hope my next phone come 2012 has some quad core goodness
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It. Is. Hideous. The poor poor phone has been continually hobbled. First the went to OMAP, ****ty GPU, then they stayed with no SDcard and only 16gb, then 5mp camera, then they jammed in a giant LTE radio on top of the CDMA version usually being larger. Sure, it's probably got a bigger battery, but, that's to make up for the battery-thirsty LTE....and this phone should have been out like 2 or 3 months ago and Verizon still hasn't dropped a date. But nobody cares....and now it's fat and ugly?
Yeah, I changed my screen density to 160 and can totally live with that for now, lol. The only thing extra you are getting are the earliest updates from Google....oh yeah, and expensive tiered data. If Sprint keeps slowly improving it's data speeds (as I have experienced slowly over the past month) Verizon ceases to have any advantages....especially once we get our GNexus, which my Sprint rep said should be around May. (grain of salt, YMMV, etc etc etc).
God. It looks more like a DroidX than a Nexus.

Waits for nexus quattro or sgs 3
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Why in the **** do these companies keep changing the way the phone looks between carriers geez. Stop one thing i can say about appl they keep it uniform. Sam sung HTC and everyone needs to keep with one dam model. One high end model and one low end geez stop with the bull****
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paniro187 said:
Why in the **** do these companies keep changing the way the phone looks between carriers geez. Stop one thing i can say about appl they keep it uniform. Sam sung HTC and everyone needs to keep with one dam model. One high end model and one low end geez stop with the bull****
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Agreed. Have a high end "super phone" model, a low end "economy" model and a mid-range model that is the "super phone" from 6 months ago. Cycle downward so the low-end has variety too eventually.

Really? You all can tell from a poorly-lit, low-res shot of the side and back that this phone is "hideous?" Really?

Bummer for those expecting Galaxy Nexus form factor in CDMA & I agree with Dan it looks like a freaking DroidX.

TurboFool said:
Really? You all can tell from a poorly-lit, low-res shot of the side and back that this phone is "hideous?" Really?
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That's what I thought lol, I thought it looked fine. Not as fancy as other phones, but not something to complain about.
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Haha...it barely looks different... oh you people...
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Haha...it barely looks different... oh you people...
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Barely different
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The Nexus curvature look is pretty much absent in CDMA version.

sling said:
Bummer for those expecting Galaxy Nexus form factor in CDMA & I agree with Dan it looks like a freaking DroidX.
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It looks almost twice as thick, though I'm sure it's not that bad. At least 50% thicker. No curve? And it looks slightly more squared and has a big lump. Square it up a bit more, make it a tad thicker and put the bump at the other side and we've got a DroidX.
I'm pretty spoiled by this ET4G I guess. 720p and NFC (and a number of nominal downgrades) just doesn't have the allure anymore, especially with that shape.
I really want to own a Nexus device though. N1 was legendary and will have ICS before we do (does have?), same for the NS/4G. The only phone faster and smoother in operation I have ever used is the ET4G, by a hair.
Once we get a good solid AOSP kernel we're in the game and that won't matter and I guess I'll hold out for the next Nexus device on Sprint. *sigh*

The curve is still there, but since the phone is thicker it's less obvious. That's all. Chill, people. LTE required it to be thicker. Period. Is this seriously that big of a deal? Would you rather them have skipped LTE to make it slightly thinner so it can be slightly prettier? How often, really, is ANYONE going to look at their phone from this angle? The first day, and maybe a few times when they're showing it off to friends while the phone is still exciting and new. And then never again.

TurboFool said:
The curve is still there, but since the phone is thicker it's less obvious. That's all. Chill, people. LTE required it to be thicker. Period. Is this seriously that big of a deal? Would you rather them have skipped LTE to make it slightly thinner so it can be slightly prettier? How often, really, is ANYONE going to look at their phone from this angle? The first day, and maybe a few times when they're showing it off to friends while the phone is still exciting and new. And then never again.
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Honestly, no...this hasn't changed my mind. I'm still not going to get it, but, that's for a number of other reasons. First and foremost being that Sprint's service has been steadily picking up for the past month and promises to pick up a lot more over the next 6 months based on planned tower upgrades. But my second--a very close second--reason is unlimited data wins. Even if it's not as fast. 2gb of data (or 4gb if they still have that promotion going on whenever this phone comes out at some fictional date in the future) over LTE (that I have seen tested in my area at between 15-30mbps reliably) could suck down 2-4gb of data in...well....between 10 and 50 minutes of full-throttle downloading depending on the promo you get and the speed you get....
Yeah, I'm all set with that trap.

The phone is .5mm thicker and the curve and thickness look off due to the color. If the other one was black it'd look nearly identical. .5mm is very small.
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No one said it would be "huge" even though it does look noticeably bigger. Just stating the differences that i for one am not satisfied with.
Instead of metal bezel, it'll just be mat/black. I honestly think it's going to be built like the Epic touch. PLASTIC.
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Those differences are minimal at best. People are reaching hard with this one.

To be honest, the only feature I really wanted from the Galaxy Nexus was the 720p HD screen.
However, even though the Samsung Galaxy S II only has a WVGA diplay, the Super AMOLED Plus makes up for it (by a lot compared to other WVGA displays) and aI dont think I'm going to miss out on HD resolution that much until my next upgrade.

I think once we get ICS on our E4GT none of us should really care about the GN.
Would anyone on Sprint really care about the GN if it was being released with Gingerbread? Minus the screen, it would almost seem like a downgrade.
What we should be looking forward to is quad core phones. Now that will be a true upgrade...

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I think once we get ICS on our E4GT none of us should really care about the GN.
Would anyone on Sprint really care about the GN if it was being released with Gingerbread? Minus the screen, it would almost seem like a downgrade.
What we should be looking forward to is quad core phones. Now that will be a true upgrade...
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indeed!
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Is this phone still worth buying?

I currently own a T-Mobile G2x and plan on picking this baby up in a few days from the playstore.
A friend of mine showed me his and I completely fell in love with the screen. I'm also hopeful about the updates being pushed by Google for another year or so.
With that said, is this phone still worth getting with other devices already out like the ONE series and Samsung's S3?
I was intially going to purchase a HTC One S, but can't bring myself to do such a big gamble because of all the hardware and software issues I've read about.

for all that is holy and right, god yes.
i could ramble on what rocks about this phone, but ill keep it small.
its a nexus, so direct updates from google. Large dev community. freaking beautiful screen and physical phone dimensions. oh did i mention kick ass software and dev community
i came from the sprint epic 4g and they were doin some crazy stuff with that phone. with the nexus, i hope to see some awesome stuff.
again so much to put into words. the nexus is worth every cent

I got mine yesterday. Short and sweet, yes!!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1719198
tl;dr: yes

I'm a former G2x owner, and the Galaxy Nexus blows the G2x away in every aspect. Not only that, it's hell of a lot more stable.
Do it. It's totally worth it.
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fredryk said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1719198
tl;dr: yes
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This one too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673845

if i can pick again, no thanks.

Its two issues that keep this or any nexus phone on top
1- direct (fast & unbloated/restrected) updates
2- a huge development base (other phones may have big dev bases, but they cant even compare)
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Yes. Good phone.
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Of course it's still worth buying. This is still the best Android phone out there. Galaxy S3 and One X may both be faster, but if you're a casual developer or tech guy, then Galaxy Nexus is the best you can get in terms of software.
Quad-core is overrated on phones and I don't like Galaxy S3's hardware decisions (the hardware keys). Galaxy Nexus has on-screen keys, which are just amazing, I could not go back to a phone without them. I don't like the bells and whistles of Galaxy S3 and One X either (which won't be a problem if you root of course). Their usability features are an overkill and don't work at all times.
Since Galaxy Nexus does come with the best version of Android - native, non-bloated one - and has very good hardware to run anything you throw at it today, then yes, it's the phone to get and the one I've suggested to fellow developers. One of the young developers I know bought it just last week and is loving it.

As everyone else had already mentioned, yes, do it - you won't regret it. I've had mine only a month now and it's freaking amazing. Fast and unbloated, beautiful screen, effortless to root, great battery life.
Best of all we will be first to get jellybean, my friend with the sgs 3 will be on ics until sometime next year. Hehe.
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Due to battery and reception/4G issues
I would say no, if i were to start over this minute... I would get a Razor Maxx over this.
I think a new phone of this caliber and price range should ROCK right out the gate and that the modding community should only (need to) make it even better... in this case it takes the modding to make it close to right with still spotty reception and CRAPPY battery life.
Is the screen beautiful... is the phone fast and with rooting and a lot of extra software does it get the job done? Yes.
But so does the RMaxx without the radio issues and it has boat loads of battery.
I would much rather have a few less bells and whistles of a newer OS and have battery life & radio reliability. I feel the bells and whistles are a lot easier to add on later than the other way around.
I like the phone... don't flame me please... but it has shortcomings

I get excellent battery life... i have never had any issues with the radio either.
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I'm hopefully buying one tonight, coming from a HTC Sensation, can't wait!

veloslave said:
I would say no, if i were to start over this minute... I would get a Razor Maxx over this.
I think a new phone of this caliber and price range should ROCK right out the gate and that the modding community should only (need to) make it even better... in this case it takes the modding to make it close to right with still spotty reception and CRAPPY battery life.
Is the screen beautiful... is the phone fast and with rooting and a lot of extra software does it get the job done? Yes.
But so does the RMaxx without the radio issues and it has boat loads of battery.
I would much rather have a few less bells and whistles of a newer OS and have battery life & radio reliability. I feel the bells and whistles are a lot easier to add on later than the other way around.
I like the phone... don't flame me please... but it has shortcomings
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Ahh you have the LTE version huh? Quite a few people seem not so happy with that one. However the GSM doesn't have as many issues as the LTE seems to..
I would say do it as well man. It's a much much better device than the G2x and you'll really enjoy it.
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Personally, I wouldn't get the Motorola. I'm a developer, and it's giving us a ridiculous amount of trouble when compared to the GS2 or the Nexus.
The nexus is a great terminal, and since they lowered the prices it's hard to beat in the quality/cost ratio.

zeke1988 said:
if i can pick again, no thanks.
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veloslave said:
I would say no, if i were to start over this minute... I would get a Razor Maxx over this.
I think a new phone of this caliber and price range should ROCK right out the gate and that the modding community should only (need to) make it even better... in this case it takes the modding to make it close to right with still spotty reception and CRAPPY battery life.
Is the screen beautiful... is the phone fast and with rooting and a lot of extra software does it get the job done? Yes.
But so does the RMaxx without the radio issues and it has boat loads of battery.
I would much rather have a few less bells and whistles of a newer OS and have battery life & radio reliability. I feel the bells and whistles are a lot easier to add on later than the other way around.
I like the phone... don't flame me please... but it has shortcomings
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As you'll see, a vast majority of the people saying "don't get it" are those with the Verizon LTE version.
To be blunt, the CDMA version of any nexus is going to be an afterthought.
Moreover, LTE is a battery-drain in comparison to UMTS/HSPA+.
If you get the Galaxy Nexus, get the HSPA+ one from the Google Play Store.

I currently have the LTE version of the Galaxy Nexus. Does my battery tend to get drained fast? Yea, although most of the time it's not an issue, I work in an office where I get to keep it plugged in most of the time. If I am planning on being out all day I always keep an extra battery, it's really not that difficult to carry one.
Does my signal tend to suck? Yea, sort of. I hardly ever make calls so I can't really notice there, although I do tend to get a lot of dropped calls but i never know which side they are coming from. My data is amazingly fast when it works right but too many times it says 4G but nothing is going on, so I have to turn the data off and back on to get it working again.
With all that said, I've had this phone since December and I still absolutely LOVE this phone! I still look at the screen and think "wow that's cool". I still show it off to people, I still love using it to pay with Google Wallet.
However, I have recently decided to get rid of it. I will be giving it to my friend, because I just ordered the GSM one from the Google Play store! I'm so sick and tired of Verizon so I want to try the whole prepaid services thing till I find something that works best for me with a service that doesn't treat me like I'm trying to steal from them because I have the unlimited data package THEY gladly offered me years ago. What ever happened to treating older customers better??

There are a few of us that jumped ship from the G2x here now, I don't think we made the wrong choice.
Plus we'll be getting Jelly Bean soon!
Just like you, I think the screen got me. That and stable ICS. I loved my G2x but after hanging around my friends with 4.3 or 4.5inch screens... I felt... inadequate...
Haha, just kidding, but I did want a bigger screen. I'm really happy with this phone now and I think I will be for a while.

kristovaher said:
Of course it's still worth buying. This is still the best Android phone out there. Galaxy S3 and One X may both be faster, but if you're a casual developer or tech guy, then Galaxy Nexus is the best you can get in terms of software.
Quad-core is overrated on phones and I don't like Galaxy S3's hardware decisions (the hardware keys). Galaxy Nexus has on-screen keys, which are just amazing, I could not go back to a phone without them. I don't like the bells and whistles of Galaxy S3 and One X either (which won't be a problem if you root of course). Their usability features are an overkill and don't work at all times.
Since Galaxy Nexus does come with the best version of Android - native, non-bloated one - and has very good hardware to run anything you throw at it today, then yes, it's the phone to get and the one I've suggested to fellow developers. One of the young developers I know bought it just last week and is loving it.
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Software keys to me are a waste of screen real estate. There is no advantage to having them. I remove them and use LMT because I want the extra screen space. Using LMT is not as quick as having the buttons there but worth the sacrifice.
The GNEX has the space at the bottom of the device to fit keys there and I wish they would have or added them as well and given the choice to use on which one we want to use.

Do you think AT&T will do the same as S2?

I am due for an upgrade but think I am going to wait to see if AT&T does the same thing with the S3 that they did with the S2. Do you think they will release an updated version like the skyrocket was but for the S3?
Just thought I would get some opinions.

I don't see why not, if you wait long enough you might as well wait for the S4. It will be at least 6-7 months before you see another version of this phone if not longer.

There is an enterprise version coming in July with no hardware changes.
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s3-safe-us-95699/
I don't think they would release another version, otherwise if you wait till october Iam sure the new Nexus will be out.

fryboy3k said:
I am due for an upgrade but think I am going to wait to see if AT&T does the same thing with the S3 that they did with the S2. Do you think they will release an updated version like the skyrocket was but for the S3?
Just thought I would get some opinions.
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New phones come out weekly seems like, so yes there will always something new coming ... but as fast as gs2 and skyrocket I doubt it ... Samsung seems to be pushing this phone alot harder than those others if u think about it, releasing all us models on basically the same day, not changing the look from international version, a red one coming to at&t .... I think next new thing will be another Google built phone with jelly bean on it within 3 months ...and new iPhone within same time frame .. but Samsung going to collect some serious money on this one before release new one
my opinion...

Of course new phones come out every few weeks and the new nexus should be out in the fourth quarter, will it come to AT&T would be the next question. But to stay on topic, I wanted to know if only a month would be between the release, but they have done a much better job releasing it this time, not the 6 month difference like the S2. So it seems that Samsung will keep this as the highest-end for awhile.
So at least it will be a little more than a month before the phone is outdated.

Highly doubt that att will carry the new nexus at its launch.
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The only reason the skyrocket was released was because of the new LTE network, they needed more phones to support it, so no, I doubt there is going to be a skyrocket S3.

The Note 2 may be the next big Samsung phone on AT&T.

I never considered a skyrocket a upgrade other than the fact it was lte. I liked my s2 more than my rocket. I'm in love wit my s3 tho
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There wont be an updated version of this phone.
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This is the first smartphone to do what crApple did with the iPhone...
Release the same version, same design, same name, on all carriers.
And...this is the first time it has happened on all 4 carriers at relatively the same time (thanks Verizon).
This is a historic moment for Android and Samsung - and the beginning of a new chapter for both companies.
[WayOffTopicRant]Dare I say another step towards the end of Apple (I hate that company!). I know that is a LONG way off, but I want so badly to see them go. Such a bad company in general, so anti-American, and a hipocritical message. I would swear that Steve Jobs made a deal with the devil if I believed in that sort of thing.[/WayOffTopicRant]

But does everyone think samsung will continue to make the flagship android phone now that google owns Motorola Mobility? Why acquire a fair sized mobile phone maker and not use it. Unless of course the move was just one more step in the no way beneficial to the end user patent war between google and apple.

fryboy3k said:
I am due for an upgrade but think I am going to wait to see if AT&T does the same thing with the S3 that they did with the S2. Do you think they will release an updated version like the skyrocket was but for the S3?
Just thought I would get some opinions.
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The Skyrocket wasn't really an updated version. It was just another version of it with LTE. It had a larger screen (not always a good thing) and a worse processor.
So in other words....no. This phone is running on AT&T's LTE network, and LTE was why they released the Skyrocket.

I think you hit the nail on the head in thinking that it was for patents. Especially since a judge just dismissed some of Apples claims over Motorola. Google will now have a platform to work on phone OS and HW now.
Personally, I feel Motorola always made the ugliest of the phones, but if the flagship for them someday becomes the Nexus manufacturer and everyone else does their own things like Galaxy S series and HTC One series it will be good.
We shall see, but from what it looks like to me is Android is here to stay, Samsung and others will continue to support it as long as we buy it, and Moto will be Google's chance to bring out stock only phones in the future.

Skyrocket was announced a week after I got my sgs2. I opted to stay with it. Skyrocket was one of the first lte phones. There is nothing that can be added to the sgs3 that it doesn't already have. Except maybe the 32gig version.
Note 2 will be out in October.
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LudoGris said:
[WayOffTopicRant]Dare I say another step towards the end of Apple (I hate that company!). I know that is a LONG way off, but I want so badly to see them go. Such a bad company in general, so anti-American, and a hipocritical message. I would swear that Steve Jobs made a deal with the devil if I believed in that sort of thing.[/WayOffTopicRant]
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There's a lot of apple haters out there and after ggetting this amazing s3, I have to say I know why. But at the end of the day apple's products are by no way bad, and they are an American company while Samsung is Korean and I want to root for my own country.

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There's a lot of apple haters out there and after ggetting this amazing s3, I have to say I know why. But at the end of the day apple's products are by no way bad, and they are an American company while Samsung is Korean and I want to root for my own country.
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IPhones are made in China.
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themightycat said:
There's a lot of apple haters out there and after ggetting this amazing s3, I have to say I know why. But at the end of the day apple's products are by no way bad, and they are an American company while Samsung is Korean and I want to root for my own country.
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Apple makes products in China. Apple the company is rooted in America but it has given nothing back to the US. No charitable donations, no give back programs, no student help, etc.
Samsung Telecommunications of America is a US based company too. They have numerous charities they give to. Sponsor many US based programs and like Microsoft give back a huge portion to the US citizens in donations.
If you want to root for the US buy Samsung. I know it sounds funny but Samsung Electronics of America is a US company. STA is a US company. Only the parent company is Korean.
I will always support the US company that gives back when it can. I am all for making a profit, but what a company does with that profit is what truly matters. Apple swallows it, Samsung gives it back.
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HTC Droid Incredible 2 Ice Cream Sandwich – It Seems It’s Still In The Works (Android

Hmm? Posted 2 days ago
http://www.gforgames.com/gadgets/ht...ice-cream-sandwich-works-android-4-ics-28378/
The story behind the HTC Droid Incredible 2 and its Ice Cream Sandwich update that never came is quite long and full of pushbacks and angry letters. In case you’ve followed us during the past few months, you should already be aware of how things unfolded thus far. In a nutshell, the Incredible 2 was supposed to receive the Android 4.0 update, alongside the HTC Thunderbolt, by the end of August. That obviously didn’t happen and the roll-out has been pushed back indefinitely.
Better Link (Not sure how I missed this on the DL)
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/11/2...ible-2-owners-waiting-for-ice-cream-sandwich/

So you could say our ice cream is still being "churned"? Or is it still being agitated?

I like how the article says they are having connectivity problems with the update. Don't they read this forum? We had the same issue with the leak...but all of the other ROMS work. Why can't they figure out what the Devs did here and incorporate it...?

I do hate to be a Negative-Nancy, but I call B.S.
It's like the cheating BF/GF. Lies don't stop. It is a habit of misleading. Key word is habit.
This subject is a very sore one for me. I think ALL Android should be open source. I thought that was the point, and what made Android better than the rest.
What it comes down to is, I will believe it when I see it.
Though this did rile me up again enough that I will be writing to HTC again. Probably at least, but not only on their Facebook page.
As always, I encourage you to do the same. Squeeky wheel gets the grease, y'know.

I do think it's worth it to prod HTC - not in a malicious way, but nicely so they know we're waiting.
I also think it's worth waiting for them to finish the job.
-CM7 on DInc2

phonetool said:
I do think it's worth it to prod HTC - not in a malicious way, but nicely so they know we're waiting.
I also think it's worth waiting for them to finish the job.
-CM7 on DInc2
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Agreed... Besides, the news is better than a definitive " HTC Scraps ICS Update" response...

Sounds like tomorrow is sooner than it was in the past.
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Still waiting.. waiting.. waiting..
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phonetool said:
I do think it's worth it to prod HTC - not in a malicious way, but nicely so they know we're waiting.
I also think it's worth waiting for them to finish the job.
-CM7 on DInc2
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Nice? Really? Nice should have been out the window the moment they passed their already ridiculously late deadline. ICS came out over a year ago and those clowns are still "working on it"? HTC clearly doesn't care about their customers so I don't see how politely asking them to do something is going to amount to anything I am glad they're experiencing record losses I'll never buy another one of their products. It's easier to pass the buck than it is to actually care about your customers and put in some work this update will never be released because neither party really cares.

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I think that as soon as the "connectivity issues" (WiFi Tether Lockdown) are finally coded in we will see ICS for the DInc II.
That's what we got with the Spectrum.
It's more for the grandfathered unlimited customers, motivation to switch to the "Gimi What You Got", VomitRizen shakedown.
Ever since the "Paid Off" FCC allowed these cheeswads to fleece the public with tiered data plans they are chocking us on it...
It is probably a better deal for those who yak for hours and text up the **s.
But for me, the $60.00 a month increase for my 5 family members to have emergency communication, is just plain cruel.
As much as it hurts, I will have to kick out the lines one at a time.
Thanks Big Reda.

"We don't have any timing specifics right now, Chris. We'll let you know once we learn more!", was the response I got from an inquiry on their FB page.

Same thing they've been saying since the end of August.
And if phone companies (HTC, Samsung, lg, etc) would stop releasing a new phone every 3 months when most people are on 2 year contracts and update the phones that people still use we wouldn't be hear. The galaxy note 2 is already out and it feels like the note 1 JUST came out. That's a bit ridiculous in my opinion lol. My friend had his og droid only 2 years ago..and think of all the android phones since then.
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Same thing they've been saying since the end of August.
And if phone companies (HTC, Samsung, lg, etc) would stop releasing a new phone every 3 months when most people are on 2 year contracts and update the phones that people still use we wouldn't be hear. The galaxy note 2 is already out and it feels like the note 1 JUST came out. That's a bit ridiculous in my opinion lol. My friend had his og droid only 2 years ago..and think of all the android phones since then.
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That's how profit is made tho. Releasing a newer phone to get people to jump to the latest and greatest so that's why they tue them down to a 2 year because slot of people just wanna be on the greatest I know a lot switching from the s3 to dna or note 2 its all based on making money

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And if phone companies (HTC, Samsung, lg, etc) would stop releasing a new phone every 3 months when most people are on 2 year contracts and update the phones that people still use we wouldn't be hear.
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Sounds good in theory to only release a new phone every 2 years but not everyone's contracts begin and end at the same time. Also like the post above me mentioned some people are willing to shell out for the latest and greatest, and others might just have monthly plans.
ETF and grandfathered unlimited is enough for me to stick with my phone for a while though
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apple manages to do it. they might not wait 2 years for every phone but they literally only have the One line of phones and keep them all updated, and still make a ton of money. >.> albeit i'm not an apple fan at all. just stating the obvious here.

This is why I'm not going for an HTC phone ever again. This is obviously a publicity stunt pulled off only by HTC.
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Nah, i believe that issues did come up. I like my HTC phone to much to leave HTC over a delayed update that i don't even care about.

JehC said:
Nah, i believe that issues did come up. I like my HTC phone to much to leave HTC over a delayed update that i don't even care about.
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Issues caused by all their bloatware, no doubt. So what if Let's Golf! isn't Sense 3.6 compatible? (assuming that's what our build's base will be)
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This here cracker ain't holding his breath.
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Waiting for an official ICS (and JB) upgrade is even more necessary in India. We are all using grey imports. Furthermore, for AlphaRevX or Revolutionary based roots (as most of us have), going back to Froyo and unrooting before doing a bootloader unlock, and then climbing back up to the CMs is not at all attractive.

so much for carrier updates

well according to 3uk it's in testing and will be several weeks, had it with a phone with a beta os and razer's hollow promises of swift updates picking up an s9+ next month this can get given to nephew, sorely disappointed I bought on the strength of my desktop peripherals and blade pro this phone falls well short of razer's standards in build quality and software support, 8know it's there first phone but first impressions count you can't put out a half rough product in today's market it's too competitive.
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Did Three Support tell you this? (The several weeks point) I haven't been able to get any information.

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Did Three Support tell you this? (The several weeks point) I haven't been able to get any information.
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Yes and not happy about it either
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Yes and not happy about it either View attachment 4400907
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That is the carrier fault not the oem. You will t have any better luck with Samsung. They are normally the last oem to update devices.

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That is the carrier fault not the oem. You will t have any better luck with Samsung. They are normally the last oem to update devices.
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I've owned Samsung's since the S2 and generally they are 99.9 finished and working out the box build quality is getting better every release this is a first phone for razer in a competitive market , they promised fast updates where are they these were to address known software problems on the phone at release, razer support won't answer anything on phones fixes, and this product falls way short of the usual razer standard , at launch min himself said razer would be handling all the updates there was no mention of the carrier's providing them especially since 3 are probably one of the worst carriers for updates usually being the last to release any.
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I've owned Samsung's since the S2 and generally they are 99.9 finished and working out the box build quality is getting better every release this is a first phone for razer in a competitive market , they promised fast updates where are they these were to address known software problems on the phone at release, razer support won't answer anything on phones fixes, and this product falls way short of the usual razer standard , at launch min himself said razer would be handling all the updates there was no mention of the carrier's providing them especially since 3 are probably one of the worst carriers for updates usually being the last to release any.
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I give you a bit of advice. Never believe what you are told.

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I give you a bit of advice. Never believe what you are told.
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so razer has sold us a lemon then, you can't stand on a stage make promises and beat your chest don't deliver and expect not to get crap for it, if they don't start rolling things out at a better pace won't matter if there is a razer phone 2 it'll bomb and the twats still doing it on Twitter
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so razer has sold us a lemon then, you can't stand on a stage make promises and beat your chest don't deliver and expect not to get crap for it, if they don't start rolling things out at a better pace won't matter if there is a razer phone 2 it'll bomb and the twats still doing it on Twitter
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All of them do it. Like my brother has gone through 4 s8 and 2 s8+ from Samsung due to them not working properly. Every oem has the same issues. Buying the first device from a new oem is expected to have issues.

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so razer has sold us a lemon then, you can't stand on a stage make promises and beat your chest don't deliver and expect not to get crap for it, if they don't start rolling things out at a better pace won't matter if there is a razer phone 2 it'll bomb and the twats still doing it on Twitter
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I just wanted to say one thing here. In the USA I didn't have a carrier option. I had to buy it from Razer. Did Razer sell you a lemon or did Three? Having the "non carrier" phone got me an extra update and my hardware and software both work buttery smooth. I suspect a lot of the fun you guys are having has something to do with Three.

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I just wanted to say one thing here. In the USA I didn't have a carrier option. I had to buy it from Razer. Did Razer sell you a lemon or did Three? Having the "non carrier" phone got me an extra update and my hardware and software both work buttery smooth. I suspect a lot of the fun you guys are having has something to do with Three.
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it has but at the launch event all updates were stated as coming from razer, I'll still buy their desktop kit and blade laptops but I'm not going near their phones, 3 are the worst at deployment of phone updates this is the first carrier phone I've had in 20 years as it was the only way I could guarantee the special edition which turns out to be a sticker [emoji23][emoji23] as soon as the pre orders are up for the s9+ I'll be ordering one.
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it has but at the launch event all updates were stated as coming from razer, I'll still buy their desktop kit and blade laptops but I'm not going near their phones, 3 are the worst at deployment of phone updates this is the first carrier phone I've had in 20 years as it was the only way I could guarantee the special edition which turns out to be a sticker [emoji23][emoji23] as soon as the pre orders are up for the s9+ I'll be ordering one.
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If your updates are coming from Razer then why is Three stating they are testing the update? Your problems are coming from Three

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If your updates are coming from Razer then why is Three stating they are testing the update? Your problems are coming from Three
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razer were the ones at the launch event who announced all updates we coming from them, if they had stated carrier's would be handling them then I wouldn't have gotten it from 3, they are my carrier but sim only as they are about the only mobile provider that does unlimited data I get excellent coverage from them 4g 120mb down and 40 mb up but I wouldn't normally take a handset from them but like I said only way to get a special edition 3 are the cause but razer were less than transparent with the facts. now they refuse to answer any problems with the phone either about build quality or software 8ssues the posts about it on the official forums have a habit of vanishing.
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Samsung.... One of the leaders in weapon technology, so you buy Samsung you bomb someone

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Samsung.... One of the leaders in weapon technology, so you buy Samsung you bomb someone
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ex military so that's not gonna lose me any sleep [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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ex military so that's not gonna lose me any sleep [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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Touché.

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razer were the ones at the launch event who announced all updates we coming from them, if they had stated carrier's would be handling them then I wouldn't have gotten it from 3, they are my carrier but sim only as they are about the only mobile provider that does unlimited data I get excellent coverage from them 4g 120mb down and 40 mb up but I wouldn't normally take a handset from them but like I said only way to get a special edition 3 are the cause but razer were less than transparent with the facts. now they refuse to answer any problems with the phone either about build quality or software 8ssues the posts about it on the official forums have a habit of vanishing.
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I could see this happening tbh as soon as it came out Three were responsible for the updates.
Don't get me wrong I kinda have remorse getting rid of the razer phone, (I had to RMA and just didn't trust the other on to be flawless so sold it ) I really wanted to help Razer with the phone so much and the Devs are fantastic especially Alex but even min told me on twitter updates wouldn't be held back (and they are now it's 2 behind). Guess there had to be a reason it was cheaper to buy from three.

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I could see this happening tbh as soon as it came out Three were responsible for the updates.
Don't get me wrong I kinda have remorse getting rid of the razer phone, (I had to RMA and just didn't trust the other on to be flawless so sold it ) I really wanted to help Razer with the phone so much and the Devs are fantastic especially Alex but even min told me on twitter updates wouldn't be held back (and they are now it's 2 behind). Guess there had to be a reason it was cheaper to buy from three.
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If updates are important then never get it from a carrier. This is well known. They interfere too much.

If we in three don't receive these 2 missing updates in one shot then I'm going to rebuy the phone again directly from razer and sell this three phone.
It certainly is evident why there was so much cheaper. Wish I'd been able to wait the 2 week shipping time from razer themselves - to me in the UK rather then going for the next day delivery from three. Absolute [email protected]@rd$!

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If updates are important then never get it from a carrier. This is well known. They interfere too much.
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It is well known yeah but when the CEO says that we won't have to wait for Three youd think that answer would be true but it made me question does he actually know what's going on in his own software team?
I mean even factory images haven't been released yet so people can attempt to make their unit a razer one.
Also for what it's worth for people my RMA unit was another Three branded one so Razer do in fact have Three units for replacement.

Bit upset on the speed of these updates i still blame three and wish i could re image my phone to Razers Stock Image rather than Three's image.
What would be different if the build would be changed whats so special about Three's version as i can only assume Three related features like wifi calling and that