Guys,
Just wanna know, whether I can flash a EU RUU on my Asia-HK HTC 816 if i am on S-Off.
I am badly in need of updating to Lollipop, but I can update the Kitkat OTA since it says "System/app/ Books.apk has unexpected contents" or something. So wanna flash a RUU. But only I can find a EU version RUU here.
EU RUU I found on XDA,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/desire-816/general/ruu-a5ull50desiresense60mrhtceurope2-34-t3113296
I don't know if you can do it, but I wouldn't. You're playing with fire and could brick your phone. What is the rush to upgrade to Lollipop? Be patient and maybe someone can help you. All I know is the OTA update needs as clean a stock installation as possible. I have a vm/usa phone and had to run the ruu for kitkat to get the lollipop ota to work.
I'm not sure if s-off causes a problem for OTA updates, but I guess it could. Seems that other people with s-off are having problems updating, but I think most likely they did some mods that need to be removed or overwritten by a stock rom. If you haven't already done so search for the error message you got when updating and maybe someone already has a solution posted.
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Hi everyone!
This is the situation:
I got my unlocked HTC Desire HD from an authorized store but when I started it (at home) I've noticed that is branded from T-mobile Germany.
Since I use a Vodafone SIM, I decided to unbranded it. So I installed this stock ROM: RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.32.405.6_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26 .03.02.26_M_release_155891_signed. I followed the steps described in a thread on this forum, using Visionary and One click S-OFF tool. Everything was just fine. My device works without any problem except one: can't find OTA updates.
WHAT COULD IT BE? IS THERE SOMETHING I COULD MAKE TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE?
Thank you in advance,
joaquin
As far as I know, once you have s-off and root and a custom Rom installed, the ota update will not work. If you want the update you will need to install a custom Rom running the new update.
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk
I understood that the stock ROM is not a customized ROM.
And I checked in bootloader and the first row looks like this:
ACE PVT SHIP S-ON
Doesn't this mean that my device has S-ON?
Is it possible that my device to be still rooted? If yes, is there a solution to make it unrooted?
Joquin
To be more specific, when i say can't find OTA updates, I mean I don't receive notification about updates and when I manually check it says "There are no updates available for your phone."
Do you know which CID you have on phone?
I had rooted, Eng S-Off and Radio S-Off (Super CID-11111111) on phone and phone found OTA update. Although I didn't tried to install it since in that way I'll be loosing root.
If I understand correctly youre still on 1.32 and you want to aquire root and S-OFF AND you want to update to 1.72?
If that is what you want, you will not be needing a prompt from your phone to update the system, because that way you will not be keeping root/S-OFF after the update.
Ensure you have BOTH Eng S-OFF and Radio S-OFF and you did temproot with visionary+. Check IVO's refference thread for that.
Its gotta work.
Then, for updating the phone correctly, take your time to read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885996
its not an easy guide for beginners (such as myself), but if you read the entire thread you will eventually get out. I did too.
I'm sorry, but I don't know where to find the CID number.
In the bootloader doesn't appear.
Joaquin
@maurei
I know if I will update to 1.72 is not possible to root at this moment and probably I will not make this update. But I want the OTA updates working not only for now.
Thank you anyaway
Joaquin
ah, hit quick reply instead of edit I guess.. soz for the dubble post, del this one
Thats what I'm saying my friend - you CAN have root AND 1.72
Its not possible to root fromin 1.72, but it IS possible to maintain root as you upgrade from 1.32 to 1.72 .
Reading my previous post made me realize it wasn't so clear.
maurei said:
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Then, for updating the phone correctly, take your time to read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885996
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I meant:
Then, for updating (=manually installing the update through recoverymode) the phone correctly (correctly =MAINTAINING ROOT and S-OFF), follow that guide.
Be sure you have ENG S-OFF and Radio S-OFF + permroot with Visionary+.
Also, be sure not to remove any preinstalled apps as this will cause unnecessary problems during the install
Sorry if I wasn't able to make myself clear.
My goal is not to have a rooted device. Maybe in the future I'll make this step if it will be necesary.
I want my device as new one, from store. I explained in the first post of this thread why I'm in this situation.
Through this thread I want to find a way to get OTA updates.
BTW, I understood that if the device is rooted OTA updates aren't possible. So I installed visionary+ and I used the "unroot now" button and I received this message: "your device doesn't appear to be rooted" or something like this.
It seems is not about unroot or s-on (see the 3rd post, too).
Anyway, if somebody has any idea, it would be apreciated to share.
Thanks,
Joaquin
You should at least get radio s-off before you upgrade. You'll thank me later if you decide you do actually want root.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD
dr.m0x said:
You should at least get radio s-off before you upgrade. You'll thank me later if you decide you do actually want root.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD
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I've read about this and if I'll decide to upgrade I'll do it for sure.
Thanks,
Joaquin
Hi guys, I've been searching the forum for a while but I still can't find a solution/reason for what it's happening to my DZ, which I bought from England and vodafone branded.
Soon after the first configuration I upgraded to 1.72 as suggested, but I couldn't know that rooting was then no more possible. I didn't want to be stuck on a vodafone branded and only-english rom, so I debranded succesfully my DZ by downgrading to a stock htc 1.34 rom (RUU_Vision_HTC_WWE_1.34.405.5_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_155556_signed), obtaining then permroot + superCID.
Now my rom speaks italian (as I wanted) and is rooted, but if I check manually for updates, I get only a message telling me that the phone is updated and there are no new upgrades available.
I tried to:
- look for updates before rooting and with s-on (CID vodap_001), waiting even for 1 week
- put back the gold card I used to downgrade and then checking for OTA
- check for updates with root, superCID and s-off
Is there any reason for that?
How can I update again to 2.2.1 (1.72 & 1.83)?
ps: I prefer a stock rom for the moment instead of a custom rom
Any help/opinion is appreciated!
There won't be any OTA updates once you've rooted and de-branded. And if there are, do not accept them, as they will either fail or possibly unroot/brick your phone.
Your option will to be to find a rooted, stock ROM that comes with the latest OTA software package already installed. Check the dev section, they have a list of ROMs. You may not be able to find the exact specific ROM you've currently got, but there are many choices that can come close.
First of all, thanks for prompt answering martonikaj.
I thought I could receive and install ota updates since there was a stock rom with superCID in my devide.. which is different from having a custom rom like Virtuos.
What about users telling they had downgraded-debranded-rooted their DZ and can receive and install successfully OTA updates??
Flashing a rooted stock rom implies wiping everything.. and I prefer to avoid that.
There's a rooted 1.82 stock ROM at : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=960149 . Really if you're going to make that huge version jump you should do a wipe. Back up your stuff with Titanium backup first
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First of all, thanks for prompt answering martonikaj.
I thought I could receive and install ota updates since there was a stock rom with superCID in my devide.. which is different from having a custom rom like Virtuos.
What about users telling they had downgraded-debranded-rooted their DZ and can receive and install successfully OTA updates??
Flashing a rooted stock rom implies wiping everything.. and I prefer to avoid that.
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Sorry but in all my times rooting and modding devices, applying OTA updates has never been something that works with rooted devices.
Unfortunately, yes, if you want to upgrade to the rooted version of the latest OTA ROM, you're gonna have to wipe everything and start from fresh with the new ROM.
Same here
Hi,
The same thing is exactly happening to me. My phone keeps telling me that there is not update but the software number is 1.34, which from what I've read is an older firmware. Shouldn't my phone be able to detect the update?
The question isnt whether rooted is better, but why our phones are not receiving any ota. Granting that stock rom is not better, the problem is there is no notification at all that there is an update.
FYI, I have flashed an official rue version but still has s-off. :-D I don't know if having s-off would prevent the phone from finding an update.
Think about it this way people: when you mod your phone by rooting, it's like cutting the imbillical cord with your carrier/manufacturer's update servers. Don't worry about why, just have that mentality as it will make all your lives easier. If you rooted, why would you want a stock rom that limits you?
If you want stock with sense, go for GingerSense, Vitruous, etc..
If you want stock w/o sense, go for any of the other pre-rooted G2 roms.
I really don't understand why people would complain about OTA updates when you can backup and update to a rom of your choice whenever you want. Plus, if you don't like it, you can revert! Something you cannot do with a stock OTA update.
/rant
Sent from my Virtuous Desire Z 1.0.2 using XDA App
Hi I would like to know if there would be a problem if I flash the official rue of an Asian desire z with a european version or vice versa?
I bought my phone second hand and I decided to flash the 1.34.707.1 version into my originally 1.72 desire z. Now my phone cannot find updates. It keeps telling me that there is no update even if check manually.
I know that I can flash a higher version by downloading a higher rue version but what I wanted to find out if I can no longer receive ota updates because of what I did.
Since when I was in 1.72 my phone did not notify me of the 1.82 update too...
I don't know what's wrong.. Please help. Thank you.
I think if you are SuperCID and S-Off, it would work. Otherwise, it won't let you flash the ROM from another region.
Also, if you flash an official ROM, you will lose root, and you can't get it back on any ROM version higher than 1.34. For this reason, if you downgraded to 1.34 for purposes of rooting, you don't want the OTA updates, anyway.
If you're rooted and S-Off, and you want a more updated ROM version, just flash the Virtuous custom ROM. Its mostly stock 1.85, but rooted, and with a few cool added features and some optimizations.
Hi, the thing is I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to rooting. I read the posts here specifically in the wii section and I don't think I have the skills to pull it off and risk bricking my phone.
I think my phone is not rooted or it was before but not anymore, since as mentioned I flashed an official ruu.
So basically, I should still be able to receive OTA's from HTC right? I was wondering why my phone keeps telling me there's no update when the software number is 1.34 stock and not rooted. Shouldn't it notify me that there's an update at least regardless of whether I want to or not?
If you are not rooted, why did you downgrade to 1.34?
I also don't understand why you want to flash the RUU from a different region. If you aren't SuperCID and S-Off it won't work. Why not just flash the latest official RUU for your phone versions/region if you want to be updated and don't care about root?
I'm not sure why your OTA's don't work. I'm still on 1.34 (well, back to it), and I still get notifications to update.
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If you are not rooted, why did you downgrade to 1.34?
I also don't understand why you want to flash the RUU from a different region. If you aren't SuperCID and S-Off it won't work. Why not just flash the latest official RUU for your phone versions/region if you want to be updated and don't care about root?
I'm not sure why your OTA's don't work. I'm still on 1.34 (well, back to it), and I still get notifications to update.
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@redpoint73
I bought the phone from a friend of mine. I noticed that it had eng hboot and had s-off.
I have zero knowledge about rooting. When the gingerbread test rom for the desire z came out, I flashed the pc10img.zip via the bootloader, however since it was very buggy and laggy, I decided to flash stock desire z rom.
Having no knowledge about rooting I read some of the threads in this forum and learned that flashing an official rom i.e. the RUU would be the easiest way to return back to stock.
It worked, I am using stock rom. I experimented and found out that I can flash any of the RUU, so I chose any of the WWE release. I decided to flash an older firmware version specifically, the 1.34.707.1.
Now the problem is my phone doesn't prompt me with an update, even after checking in about phone > check for update.
I still have s-off but eng hboot is gone. To clarify I was not the one who rooted the phone, so I have no idea what to do.
Is it possible that the previous owner tweaked something in the phone that would absolutely prevent it from receiving OTA?
I am just worried since I have a feeling that the gingerbread OTA will be released in a few weeks since the update for the Desire HD is already out.
Please help and thank you again. I extremely as a NOOB!
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I am just worried since I have a feeling that the gingerbread OTA will be released in a few weeks since the update for the Desire HD is already out.
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I wouldn't worry about getting the official Gingerbread ROM OTA. It will probably be posted here or at shipped-roms.com long before you would get it OTA.
Hi guys,
I know that the htc official update is out in Europe but was wondering as reading the custom roms the HBOOT and Radio are not updated....
Is this due to new securities?
Basically am wondering if I could wait for the network to provide the latest update, then install a custom rom so that I have the latest hboot/radio too....
Have not been with htc phones for 2+ years so re-learning things....
Thanks.
A custom firmware can't update HBOOT or the baseband. You can only get it as part of the official HTC firmware updates.
If you're concerned about getting S-OFF then you don't want to update HBOOT just in case it fixes whatever exploit is necessary to get S-OFF.
If you don't care about S-OFF and just want custom firmware whilst accepting that updating HBOOT and the baseband is more annoying then you can do what you suggest. You should pair the baseband with the firmware though for best compatibility. For example, you shouldn't use the baseband for 1.26 with a 1.28 firmware without lots of testing as there might be some odd interactions or bugs.
Thanks for the response.... I reckon there will be a few weeks wait for the update via the network, so hopefully S-OFF has been worked on and available in which case I may just use that method.
Decided to take the last Software update from HTC and messed up everything.
I am unlocked with S-ON so decided to relock and start the process, now after 3 days on reading and testing different way i have this:
unlock S-on Hboot 3.18.00000
invalide radio and os info. Tried Android revolution and Maximus latest ROM on both wifi don't work.
Tried to go s-off till i got the message that my device has been patched by HTC
I don't mind to go with a ROM or full back to stock but need some help getting the device working with wifi
This has been discussed in many (probably dozens) of existing threads.
The latest ARHD and Maximus require the latest firmware, which corresponds with hboot 3.19.
You either need to update the firmware manually with S-off, or install the newest OTA (if available for your version). Alternately, use a 2.xx software based ROM to get WiFi working.
redpoint73 said:
This has been discussed in many (probably dozens) of existing threads.
The latest ARHD and Maximus require the latest firmware, which corresponds with hboot 3.19.
You either need to update the firmware manually with S-off, or install the newest OTA (if available for your version). Alternately, use a 2.xx software based ROM to get WiFi working.
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Been reading more than the dozen mentioned and in any case thank you for the information.
Got the Wifi working installing a previous ROM as you suggest and now will start the process to get s-off and proceed. Even tried Sumshine do not mind to pay for it but can't install the apk on the phone.....
Is not my day probably
redpoint73 said:
This has been discussed in many (probably dozens) of existing threads.
The latest ARHD and Maximus require the latest firmware, which corresponds with hboot 3.19.
You either need to update the firmware manually with S-off, or install the newest OTA (if available for your version). Alternately, use a 2.xx software based ROM to get WiFi working.
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want to update also the other that faced the same issues.
Loaded MaximusHD 7 and got wifi working
Through sunshine got s-OFF now wante to try to get all the best to have all the upgrade.
Will have to ready dozens more ot threads, if someone has help and suggestion is welcome
succe said:
want to update also the other that faced the same issues.
Loaded MaximusHD 7 and got wifi working
Through sunshine got s-OFF now wante to try to get all the best to have all the upgrade.
Will have to ready dozens more ot threads, if someone has help and suggestion is welcome
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Just look in the Development section for the firmware collection. Or just read through the ARHD or Maximus threads (starting from the most recent posts and going back from there), and they will probably lead you to the same place. Seriously, its not that hard to search for info on XDA. I never once after modding 6 Android and 2 Windows Mobile devices before that, had to ask folks to lead me to the info. Most of us just search and find it ourselves. Reading through the thread for the ROM you are having problems with will lead you to the answer 99% of the time; and you should do this when you flash any ROM.