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Hello all. i rooted my friend's mytouch slide yesterday, and now he wants it un-rooted. i have an idea on how to do it, but i am not entirely sure. I know that i have to apply a google update from the hboot error. I am experienced in hacking android phones, but since i am from the droid incredible community, i am kinda learning the rest. Can anyone supply me with a link for the software. Thanks in advance.
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there is a stock image int these forums if you search for it. use that to nandroid restore from clockwork recovery
will that "unroot" the device then? for clarification I was also wondering this question and have seen this same answer before but once you install the nandroid back on then there is no longer signs of rooting, correct? or is it the case of; once it's rooted it is always rooted kinda thing and the closest you can get is to install stock rom back on? Thanks for clarifying...
stock rom nanroid = no root ever(or that's what they think) there is also another thread in dev forum that has an unroot img that you flash from bootloader(same build different method)
returning to the stock img is good enough to return the slide for warranty purposes. & make sure you delete the update.zip file from the SD card. There is no HSPL for the mytouch yet which is what they look for in other devices.
Thanks guys for the great explanation. Makes me feel better knowing its still good for warranty (just in case)!
So i have an HTC Evo with the latest OTA update 3.70.651.1. Completely stock, non rooted. I know very little about both rooting and roms other then what i quickly went over in a few Q&A's here.
Im not sure what to do, if anything, so i thought id ask here. Primarily id like to be able to delete unwanted stock apps/bloatware and backup the entire phone (like making a recovery image). Itd be nice to be able to wirelessly tether but this isnt necessary. Other then that id like to keep it the same.
Is it possible to root but use the stock rom? if so what does this accomplish?
Is there a risk free way to accomplish my goals?
Thanks
Im not sure what to do, if anything, so i thought id ask here. Primarily id like to be able to delete unwanted stock apps/bloatware and backup the entire phone (like making a recovery image). Itd be nice to be able to wirelessly tether but this isnt necessary. Other then that id like to keep it the same.
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You would need to root to do this.
Is it possible to root but use the stock rom?
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Absolutely. Thats what I do. The only reason I rooted was for wireless tether, and titanium backup. Other than that, I didnt want another rom, I love the stock one.
if so what does this accomplish?
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Exactly what you just asked for in the previous paragraph.
Is there a risk free way to accomplish my goals?
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Nope. There is ALWAYS a risk when doing anything in life, and rooting your phone in no different. However, it is actually quite difficult to completely brick your phone. Most of the time, if you follow the directions, you will be fine. But if you do screw up, you can usually just flash a stock ruu and redo it.
Thanks for the information. Is there anything the free version of titanium backup doesnt backup? What does a nandroid backup save?
Also will rooting alone allow me to delete any app on the phone?
Lastly what would be the recommended way for someone new like me to root my phone (or resources i can use to pick a method)? Is there a way to restore my phone back to stock if i need to?
Thanks again. As i ask these questions im also digging into the forums looking for specific answers
Hey welcome to XDA.
I don't know when you received your phone, but it seems very brand new to me, I would say your best luck is to try to look for the details of your main specs in your phone, when you start to root your phone, you look for instructions here to setup properly on How to do the root process with the same exact phone detail specs of it.
I was rooted with an older OTA at first, but I see these new OTAs are up on new EVOs but It's kinda fishy to think of how to root it with the latest OTA on the old leet legit methods that toastcfh had...you know...The Manual Professional way, without the risk of bricking your phone completely, if you had the chance to root successfully with idiot proof instructions, I say that was quite a day for me then.
Actually ive had my Evo since release, ive just been too scared to risk bricking it til now lol.
i currently have:
hboot 2.10
software 3.70.651.1
hardware 0002
i took down some other info but idk if it matters for rooting directions.
So far from my searches it appears the only option for hboot 2.10 + 3.70.651.1 is a pretty lengthy/difficult for beginners method. Is that accurate?
Also my primary concern is deleting bloatware/included apps, does rooting alone allow me to delete these?
Also none of the guides ive seen detail how to backup your phone before the root, is there an easy way to make like a backup image of the stock stuff + data,sms,phone log, etc?
Thanks again everyone, still digging but your help will make it go much more smoothly
So ive pretty much discovered that my 2 options are do it the "hard" way or wait for unrevoked to update their stuff for the newest evo software/hboot. Im probably going to wait.
In the meantime i want to make sure of a few things, deleteing apps, backup, wireless tether. How would i approach each of these; can i use the built in app manager to delete apps? the built in wireless tether to tether? what exactly does nandroid backup compared to titanium backup?
Does the stock rom support netfilter?
Is there any scenario in which ota updates wont break root?
Thanks again
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In the meantime i want to make sure of a few things, deleteing apps, backup, wireless tether. How would i approach each of these; can i use the built in app manager to delete apps? the built in wireless tether to tether? what exactly does nandroid backup compared to titanium backup?
Is there any scenario in which ota updates wont break root?
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To delete apps, you will want to use Titanium Backup. After removing stock apps, some of them still stay indexed, so you will need to boot to recovery and wipe your cache and dalvik to clear them from the apps list.
You won't be able to use the built-in wireless tether to tether unless you flash a new rom that unlocked that feature. Once rooted, there is a an app on the market called Wireless Tether for Root Users that will accomplish what you are looking for.
Titanium Backup will also allow you to backup your apps and data so that in the event you do flash a new rom, you can restore them without losing anything.
Titanium Backup is designed to backup your apps and data, Nandroid(recovery) will backup your entire ROM, so if you do flash a new rom, you can always revert back to your stock setup exactly how you left it.
OTA updates will always break your root, but at the same time don't offer much in the terms of upgrading. Plus 90% of the time the dev's here release a rooted version of the OTA update very shortly after it goes live.
Right, from the top, I'm a retard and shouldn't have messed with ROM's and custom recovery whilst blindly following a guide (I cant remember which guide, so mistake #1). I have a Telstra (Australian) Galaxy Nexus. I followed a guide to put CWM, Jelly Bean and root on, however I ran into a few problems and wanted to revert to my stock ROM, well I never performed a backup of my original ROM (mistake #2). I went looking and someone posted a Telstra stock ROM in CWM backup form here on xda, I successfully restored it and am *mostly* happy with the results, however no I cannot recieve OTA updates, which seems to be due to the prop file and others assert failing. Basically, I've learnt my lesson and want to be a good boy and go back to a non-root, completely out of the box state so if in the future, I need to return the phone for warranty, I can without fear of recourse for messing with the phone.
So again, I'm a tard, but can you help me?
EDIT: Mistake #3, I went back through my downloads and found the files I used from the guide I cant find to show you, but it DID involve Busybox which I have since read screws **** up.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1626895
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atifsh said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1626895
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I've been over that thread twice now and cant find the Return to Stock instructions, am I blind? (happy to be proven wrong)
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Right, from the top, I'm a retard and shouldn't have messed with ROM's and custom recovery whilst blindly following a guide (I cant remember which guide, so mistake #1). I have a Telstra (Australian) Galaxy Nexus. I followed a guide to put CWM, Jelly Bean and root on, however I ran into a few problems and wanted to revert to my stock ROM, well I never performed a backup of my original ROM (mistake #2). I went looking and someone posted a Telstra stock ROM in CWM backup form here on xda, I successfully restored it and am *mostly* happy with the results, however no I cannot recieve OTA updates, which seems to be due to the prop file and others assert failing. Basically, I've learnt my lesson and want to be a good boy and go back to a non-root, completely out of the box state so if in the future, I need to return the phone for warranty, I can without fear of recourse for messing with the phone.
So again, I'm a tard, but can you help me?
EDIT: Mistake #3, I went back through my downloads and found the files I used from the guide I cant find to show you, but it DID involve Busybox which I have since read screws **** up.
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As I understand it, you should just be able to re-apply a stock GSM ROM to your Galaxy Nexus to get back to the original state of things. That's the whole point of a Nexus - it's stock with no customisations etc. It sounds like you'll have start from the very beginning and reinstall apps etc. but I guess you've already bitten that bullet, and presumably you're happy with your current ROM configuration?
It's not clear what recovery you have installed at the moment. You've made mention of CWM ... Clockwork Mod recovery possibly installed in that case? Again, as I understand it, Clockwork Mod recovery means you can't <s>receive</s> apply OTA updates. If you're on a stock ROM you should still receive notification about them though? If you are truly on stock, but have the Clockwork Mod recovery installed you can reinstall the stock boot recovery image. You should be able to find the stock images via a google search easily enough.
Once you've determined which recovery you currently have installed you'll have a better idea of how to get back to stock everything.
Above all, don't panic
PS I could add that busybox doesn't screw stuff up ... it just allows you to screw things up
Hi there,
the most simple way to go back to stock is using the GNex-Toolkit (to be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392310) downloading the stock image here https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images. Almost no chance to mess up your phone with this tool.
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Hi there,
the most simple way to go back to stock is using the GNex-Toolkit (to be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392310) downloading the stock image here https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images. Almost no chance to mess up your phone with this tool.
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Given a bit more research, I want to be able to get rid of Clockworkmod so I can receive OTA updates again.
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Given a bit more research, I want to be able to get rid of Clockworkmod so I can receive OTA updates again.
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yeah and if tried the tool, you would have seen, that there is an option to flash stock recovery to your phone. you can also disable the bootloader again.
choose your model/build perform action 7 --> option 3 and your back on stock recovery
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yeah and if tried the tool, you would have seen, that there is an option to flash stock recovery to your phone. you can also disable the bootloader again.
choose your model/build perform action 7 --> option 3 and your back on stock recovery
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I executed that successfully however CWM still exists =/
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I've been over that thread twice now and cant find the Return to Stock instructions, am I blind? (happy to be proven wrong)
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Seriously? The instructions in the first post...
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
real_becksaufex said:
yeah and if tried the tool, you would have seen, that there is an option to flash stock recovery to your phone. you can also disable the bootloader again.
choose your model/build perform action 7 --> option 3 and your back on stock recovery
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Disable bootloader?
Pressed from my Maguro
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Seriously? The instructions in the first post...
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
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This still doesn't solve the problem I have in regard to not having the original Telstra (yakjudv) ROM.
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This still doesn't solve the problem I have in regard to not having the original Telstra (yakjudv) ROM.
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I few things:
1) If you can find a backup of a yakjudv ROM from some Australian user, I'd be happy to help you restore it; but
2) You do realize that yakjudv is still on 4.0.4 (ICS) and not Jelly Bean, right? And you do realize that it only recently (past few weeks) got updated to 4.0.4 while yakju has been on 4.0.4 since March?
3) You do realize that yakju is stock, and the factory images provided by Google are the "stock" ones that get updated first. yakjudv is a Samsung build, not a stock Google build.
LOL, Telstra
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Right, from the top, I'm a retard and shouldn't have messed with ROM's and custom recovery whilst blindly following a guide (I cant remember which guide, so mistake #1). I have a Telstra (Australian) Galaxy Nexus. I followed a guide to put CWM, Jelly Bean and root on, however I ran into a few problems and wanted to revert to my stock ROM, well I never performed a backup of my original ROM (mistake #2). I went looking and someone posted a Telstra stock ROM in CWM backup form here on xda, I successfully restored it and am *mostly* happy with the results, however no I cannot recieve OTA updates, which seems to be due to the prop file and others assert failing. Basically, I've learnt my lesson and want to be a good boy and go back to a non-root, completely out of the box state so if in the future, I need to return the phone for warranty, I can without fear of recourse for messing with the phone.
So again, I'm a tard, but can you help me?
EDIT: Mistake #3, I went back through my downloads and found the files I used from the guide I cant find to show you, but it DID involve Busybox which I have since read screws **** up.
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DO NOT GET YAKJUDV!!! Try and just get Yakju, Then you will get your updates from Google NOT Telstra. You don't need the Telstra stock rom, you can use Google's Yakju. I have a Telstra one and I get updates from google because I put Yakju. You will need to flash the ROM though your pc. I have been through what you have with the exact phone (Telstra one), If you need any help you can PM me
I agree with the post from Atifsh.
The guide offered by Efrant gives you, step by step, everything you need to reach your goal.
Contrary to your case I did not need to change the factory ROM but I applied the rest of the guide (for instance post 855 in Efrant thread shows what I did).
Since I want to learn I refuse, so far, to rely on a toolkit.
I deeply share Efrant philosophy of learning. And I agree on the purpose of the XDA forum. It is not a walking clinic, it is a hospital implementing new medecines:laugh:.
Finally, taking into account my age I am closer to the hospital than to the clinic.
Thanks to Efrant and few others I am doing "stuff" I did not know I could do.
And, yes I am over the time I used to want and get everything at once.
efrant said:
I few things:
1) If you can find a backup of a yakjudv ROM from some Australian user, I'd be happy to help you restore it; but
2) You do realize that yakjudv is still on 4.0.4 (ICS) and not Jelly Bean, right? And you do realize that it only recently (past few weeks) got updated to 4.0.4 while yakju has been on 4.0.4 since March?
3) You do realize that yakju is stock, and the factory images provided by Google are the "stock" ones that get updated first. yakjudv is a Samsung build, not a stock Google build.
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I understand all the benefits of yakju, however I want to revert to yakjudv if for any reason in the future I require warranty (the phone is under contract).
I do in fact have a 4.0.1 Nandroid backup from another user on Telstra, I went ahead and restored it through CWM and everything was fine, except I still cannot receive OTA updates, doing some reading finds I need to get rid of CWM and revert to stock recovery, so how do I do this?
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I understand all the benefits of yakju, however I want to revert to yakjudv if for any reason in the future I require warranty (the phone is under contract).
I do in fact have a 4.0.1 Nandroid backup from another user on Telstra, I went ahead and restored it through CWM and everything was fine, except I still cannot receive OTA updates, doing some reading finds I need to get rid of CWM and revert to stock recovery, so how do I do this?
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As you say, the problem is you need the stock recovery for the build that you are on. What build is the backup you restored? If it is ITL41F, then you are in luck. Go to this thread and download any one of the two yakjudv updates to /sdcard. Use CWM to flash it, and you will be all set -- it will wipe CWM and replace it with the correct stock recovery for that build.
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And please change the title of this thread to "Return to stock yakjudv" as it is very confusing. Most people refer to stock as yakju or takju for GSM devices.
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I understand all the benefits of yakju, however I want to revert to yakjudv if for any reason in the future I require warranty (the phone is under contract).
I do in fact have a 4.0.1 Nandroid backup from another user on Telstra, I went ahead and restored it through CWM and everything was fine, except I still cannot receive OTA updates, doing some reading finds I need to get rid of CWM and revert to stock recovery, so how do I do this?
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Can you please post the back up on here please via drop box or something, I need the same thing so I can return for a warranty issue however everywhere I look I just find silly people trying to inform me that I should use Google builds and no Samsung/Telstra build. I know all this however my phone is now on life support and everything seems to be going wrong so I just want to return to out of the box and return it.
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I love it when people ignore the question in the OP and just decide to tell others to flash different firmware. This isnt helpful in any way when trying to return your device to Telstra in Australia as that's not what come with it so they will just give you your faulty POS back and laugh in your face because you are no longer covered by the warranty.
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Can you please post the back up on here please via drop box or something, I need the same thing so I can return for a warranty issue however everywhere I look I just find silly people trying to inform me that I should use Google builds and no Samsung/Telstra build. I know all this however my phone is now on life support and everything seems to be going wrong so I just want to return to out of the box and return it.
I love it when people ignore the question in the OP and just decide to tell others to flash different firmware. This isnt helpful in any way when trying to return your device to Telstra in Australia as that's not what come with it so they will just give you your faulty POS back and laugh in your face because you are no longer covered by the warranty.
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Have you tried returning a device with yakju and have Telstra give you back your "faulty POS" back? Have you heard of others who have experienced that? On the contrary, I have heard of many people returning their non-yakju-bought device with yakju, and have had full warranty.
And if you would have searched before lipping off, you would have found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29898676&postcount=175
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Have you tried returning a device with yakju and have Telstra give you back your "faulty POS" back? Have you heard of others who have experienced that? On the contrary, I have heard of many people returning their non-yakju-bought device with yakju, and have had full warranty.
And if you would have searched before lipping off, you would have found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29898676&postcount=175
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I have tried that link bro and it wont flash in CWM. I just get a red triangle with a robot on it. A mate of mine tried to take his back due to a similar problem im having and he was told he had played with the device and wouldn't fix it under warranty and wanted to charge him something stupid to fix it. I'm not giving ya lip but I have been looking for the last 6 hours and in every thread about this subject everyone is saying the same thing.
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I have tried that link bro and it wont flash in CWM. I just get a red triangle with a robot on it. A mate of mine tried to take his back due to a similar problem im having and he was told he had played with the device and wouldn't fix it under warranty and wanted to charge him something stupid to fix it. I'm not giving ya lip but I have been looking for the last 6 hours and in every thread about this subject everyone is saying the same thing.
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Ok, are you flashing it in CWM? The "red triangle with a robot" IS the stock recovery, it is not an error. What is the exact procedure you are using to flash it?
Hi guys! After purchasing a Droid X that I thought was a Droid X2, I've now purchased a Droid Incredible from Ebay. For context, it's for my 12 yr old daughter who is on PagePlus. I've got her on one of the talk and text plans wiht no data.
I've read the wiki and a number of threads but couldn't find a clear answer to my question: What should I do with this before I give it to her?
Things I'd like to do:
1. Get rid of/freeze bloatware
2. Address the short battery life issue (if possible)
3. Give her the ability to change the theme, preferably without installing a program
4. Limit data to wifi since I don't want her using PP minutes for data inadvertantly
So, what would you do with a new phone?
TIA,
CheapDad
CheapDad said:
Hi guys! After purchasing a Droid X that I thought was a Droid X2, I've now purchased a Droid Incredible from Ebay. For context, it's for my 12 yr old daughter who is on PagePlus. I've got her on one of the talk and text plans wiht no data.
I've read the wiki and a number of threads but couldn't find a clear answer to my question: What should I do with this before I give it to her?
Things I'd like to do:
1. Get rid of/freeze bloatware
2. Address the short battery life issue (if possible)
3. Give her the ability to change the theme, preferably without installing a program
4. Limit data to wifi since I don't want her using PP minutes for data inadvertantly
So, what would you do with a new phone?
TIA,
CheapDad
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Hi from another Page Plus user!
#4 is easy: just turn Mobile Data off in the phone's settings.
For only #1: Root the phone and install Titanium Backup. Follow the first part of this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1600904
You do not need to follow the full guide and get s-off unless you want to, for what you want to do just having root will be enough. Follow steps 1, 2, and 3. Once Superuser and Titanuim Backup are installed, you will be able to remove any apps you want. Plus, you'll have a custom recovery installed, which will allow you to continue:
For #2 and #3: Follow the guide as stated above, and flash a ROM with Theme Engine support, such as Cyanogenmod:
http://download.cyanogenmod.com/get/jenkins/21410/cm-7-20130301-NIGHTLY-inc.zip
...that is a link for the last official Cyanogenmod nightly, which is Gingerbread. It will have much better battery life than stock, and there are still lots of free themes around for CM7.
(There are some pretty good Ice Cream Sandwich and Jelly Bean unofficial builds, but the video camera is broken on most anything newer than Gingerbread. You can even put KitKat on your Droid Incredible if you want to, but that breaks picture messaging as well as the video camera.)
Thanks very much, musical-chairs! Your post summarized everything very nicely. Unfortunately, my phone didn't come with an SD card, so I've got one on order from Newegg. Once it gets here I'll get started.
One question - if I use Titanium Backup, can I back up the AOSP ROM so that I can restore the phone to stock? Or is there a better way of doing that?
Second question - does CM already address the 149 MB storage issue, or do I still need to apply a fix to that?
CheapDad
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One question - if I use Titanium Backup, can I back up the AOSP ROM so that I can restore the phone to stock? Or is there a better way of doing that?
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When you say "back up the AOSP ROM," I think back up the entire ROM. Titanium doesn't do that, that's a nandroid, done in recovery.
What Titanium does, is back up individual apps (and their app data). That's ok, as long as you're backing up user apps (apps that live in /data/apps). It's not ok, and known to cause problems, to back up system apps (apps that live in /system/apps).
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When you say "back up the AOSP ROM," I think back up the entire ROM. Titanium doesn't do that, that's a nandroid, done in recovery.
What Titanium does, is back up individual apps (and their app data). That's ok, as long as you're backing up user apps (apps that live in /data/apps). It's not ok, and known to cause problems, to back up system apps (apps that live in /system/apps).
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Pons:
Forgive the inaccurate language. What I 'm thinking is that I'd like the option of restoring the phone to its original state, ideally with the most up to date firmware issued by the HTC or Verizon (it's a Verizon phone). I assume I should do that before I change anything. How do I do that?
CheapDad
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Pons:
Forgive the inaccurate language. What I 'm thinking is that I'd like the option of restoring the phone to its original state, ideally with the most up to date firmware issued by the HTC or Verizon (it's a Verizon phone). I assume I should do that before I change anything. How do I do that?
CheapDad
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As Pons said, you can back up your stock rom before flashing a new one, in recovery (aka make a nandroid backup) and restore it at any time. Also, you can wipe the phone and install a stock image, you can find those here: http://dinc.does-it.net/Stock_Images/
I mentioned Titanium not so much for making backups as for uninstalling bloatware. Of course, if you decide to flash a custom ROM like CyanogenMod, that is a non-issue.
The 150Mb data issue requires a separate fix, flash that after flashing a ROM. The thread for that is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623038 You're looking for the 'no data limit' variant of the mod.
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As Pons said, you can back up your stock rom before flashing a new one, in recovery (aka make a nandroid backup) and restore it at any time. Also, you can wipe the phone and install a stock image, you can find those here: http://dinc.does-it.net/Stock_Images/
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I received a 32GB SD card yesterday in the mail from Newegg and I plan to follow all of the steps you suggest tomorrow. I went to the link for the stock images to save one locally and I can't figure which one to use. My phone has the following:
Build Number
4.08.605.19 CL539174 release keys
Software number
4.08.605.19 710RD
This doesn't seem to make any of the file names at the stock image site. Can you help me identify the correct one?
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I went to the link for the stock images to save one locally and I can't figure which one to use. My phone has the following:
Build Number
4.08.605.19 CL539174 release keys
Software number
4.08.605.19 710RD
This doesn't seem to make any of the file names at the stock image site. Can you help me identify the correct one?
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The newest full stock image there is 4.08.605.15: http://dinc.does-it.net/Stock_Images/4.08.605.15/
Then there is the 4.08.605.19 OTA update patch: http://dinc.does-it.net/Stock_Image...WE_4.08.605.19-4.08.605.15_release_305224.zip
...the stock images are flashed through HBOOT rather than recovery, so they wipe everything, including your custom recovery and the bootloader unlock. I think you would rename the OTA update to PB31IMG.zip (just like the full stock image) and flash it through HBOOT as well, so that after flashing them both you would have a completely stock, locked, unrooted phone. These can be useful if you want to sell the phone or if something gets crashed or messes up in a really bad way. 4.08.605.15 has that annoying bug where it likes to keep rebooting at 2:00 am, but it would be fine for recovering your device.
Alternately, there are odexed and deodexed stock images in the main directory of http://dinc.does-it.net/ that you would flash through recovery. They would return the ROM to stock but would leave the recovery in place and the bootloader unlocked. Also, the guide recommends that you make a nandroid backup of your stock ROM as soon as you're in clockworkmod recovery, so you could always restore your backup and get the ROM back to stock (but leave the bootloader unlocked.)
On the bright side, if your phones are on 4.08.605.19, you will already have the latest HBOOT, so unlocking via htcdev will be nice and simple - no need to download and run the RUU update as the guide says in part 1 section 2, just run the fastboot commands and click along in htcdev.
Sorry, this post got kind of messy...
To close the loop, I spent the better part of yesterday going through the process described by musical_chairs. First, I unlocked and rooted using HTCDev. I installed CWM and made a stock rom backup. I flashed/installed CM7.2. Once I did that, I realized that I didn't have Google Apps, so I followed the same process and installed that. (adb push) Lastly, I fixed the 150 mb storage limit.
As few thoughts on the process from the perspective of a noob with some computer/technical knowledge, but zero linux/android knowledge:
1. The instructions were great. The more detailed the better and pictures are even better yet. A few times I had to google when I got an unexpected outcome to find a youtube video or something to show me a picture so I could determine what I had done wrong.
2. I used the "downgrade to froyo" instructions but just changed the file name to match CM7.2. While I got this done, a set of instructions that are generalized (to flash a new rom, enter this command "adb push (name of file) /location/) would have been better because I would not have had to extrapolate. I appreciate that his comment reduces the simplicity to the absurd, but for someone doing this for the first time, absurdly simple is important.
3. The support here is phenomenal. I couldn't have done this without the guidance provided. Thank you!
CheapDad
Hi all,
Thread title is pretty self-explanatory.
I am still running KitKat 4.4.4 on my Z1C, and have not tried the 5.1 update ever, but I am wanting to give it a go (I tried 5.0 in May last year and was not satisfied so went back to KitKat but had to flash a ROM and start from scratch)
I'd like to be able to backup my KitKat ROM as it is now, with all my apps and configuration, etc etc. But how can I do this without root? I don't want to root my phone as I have some apps which detect root and will not work without it. Is there a "recovery" mode I can enter into without root, and if so how do I enter it?
Alternatively, is there an easy way I can:
* Root my Z1C
* Backup the KitKat ROM through Recovery
* Unroot
* Install the Lollipop 5.1 update?
Any help would be great.
Thanks
alex_ncfc said:
Hi all,
Thread title is pretty self-explanatory.
I am still running KitKat 4.4.4 on my Z1C, and have not tried the 5.1 update ever, but I am wanting to give it a go (I tried 5.0 in May last year and was not satisfied so went back to KitKat but had to flash a ROM and start from scratch)
I'd like to be able to backup my KitKat ROM as it is now, with all my apps and configuration, etc etc. But how can I do this without root? I don't want to root my phone as I have some apps which detect root and will not work without it. Is there a "recovery" mode I can enter into without root, and if so how do I enter it?
Alternatively, is there an easy way I can:
* Root my Z1C
* Backup the KitKat ROM through Recovery
* Unroot
* Install the Lollipop 5.1 update?
Any help would be great.
Thanks
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No expert, but AFAIK you can't have recovery without root. You could backup with Google app, and restore when you update. That's probably your best bet officially. Anyway, backing up in recovery will make a backup of your whole system, which will flash you right back to KK when you restore, unless you choose to restore data only, in which case you might as well just use Google backup, (and anyway you might get compatibility issues with app data). If you want to save your current image to go back to in case you don't like the update, just root, backup in recovery, and, when you restore it, you can unroot to use your anti-root apps again.
levone1 said:
No expert, but AFAIK you can't have recovery without root. You could backup with Google app, and restore when you update. That's probably your best bet officially. Anyway, backing up in recovery will make a backup of your whole system, which will flash you right back to KK when you restore, unless you choose to restore data only, in which case you might as well just use Google backup, (and anyway you might get compatibility issues with app data). If you want to save your current image to go back to in case you don't like the update, just root, backup in recovery, and, when you restore it, you can unroot to use your anti-root apps again.
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Thanks very much for your fast response
I would like to be able to make a backup of my whole system image in recovery (I have experience of this backup and restoring of images on my old X10 phone) The problem is I don't know which is the best method to go about rooting, but unrooting is something that sounds even more complex. Would it be easy to do on this phone?
Thanks
alex_ncfc said:
Thanks very much for your fast response
I would like to be able to make a backup of my whole system image in recovery (I have experience of this backup and restoring of images on my old X10 phone) The problem is I don't know which is the best method to go about rooting, but unrooting is something that sounds even more complex. Would it be easy to do on this phone?
Thanks
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On Kk I'm pretty sure Doomlord's rootkit works. Couldn't be easier. Search the forums here.
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alex_ncfc said:
Thanks very much for your fast response
I would like to be able to make a backup of my whole system image in recovery (I have experience of this backup and restoring of images on my old X10 phone) The problem is I don't know which is the best method to go about rooting, but unrooting is something that sounds even more complex. Would it be easy to do on this phone?
Thanks
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Try this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784900 also - http://d-h.st/f4p
levone1 said:
On Kk I'm pretty sure Doomlord's rootkit works. Couldn't be easier. Search the forums here.
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Try this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784900 also - http://d-h.st/f4p
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Thank you very much for your response.
I see from the link you sent that it seems pretty straightforward to root the phone, but how do I go about reversing the process once I have backed up my current KK ROM configuration??
Also I posted something similar on the official Sony forums - one of the mods replied saying that if I root I will "have to unlock the bootloader, which will remove the DRM keys, and unless you back them up, Sony apps and services won't work and the camera will be affected, same as xreality, etc." Is this the case??
Thanks
alex_ncfc said:
Thank you very much for your response.
I see from the link you sent that it seems pretty straightforward to root the phone, but how do I go about reversing the process once I have backed up my current KK ROM configuration??
Also I posted something similar on the official Sony forums - one of the mods replied saying that if I root I will "have to unlock the bootloader, which will remove the DRM keys, and unless you back them up, Sony apps and services won't work and the camera will be affected, same as xreality, etc." Is this the case??
Thanks
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Not sure what they're getting at. You definitely don't have to unlock the bl if you don't want to. If you want to use a custom kernel or aosp / cm you would need to, and you will lose drm keys etc, but there are backup and restore options for that too. I've never unrooted, but I think it's just a 1-click thing. The root tools I linked probably have the option built in, and I've seen it on Flashtool options also.
There were some applications that could hide root state from the certain apps that didn't work with root. I don't remember exactly the name of the apps because I never needed them but you can try searching.
Edit: Here's an xposed module for example http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/mod-rootcloak-completely-hide-root-t2574647
IMAO without root you will not see part of system, it is protection against stupidity of users.
Surely root may be reverted, it is the most simple thing under the Sun.
For myself I'd rename su to other name and probably it would be enough while I'd have root till hands at any moment.
BTW:
Seeing how much crap they nowadays load into phone I don't imagine to have my phone not rooted.
Unlocking BL is different story. That opens whole lot of new area, sometimes risky, too.