Sorry if this subject has been beat to death, but i'm new to the EVO. Actually the fone belongs to a good friend of mine. She was told that if her battery gets so low that the fone shut's down, she'll need to bring it to a store for them to get it restarted. This seams wrong. I know with my Droid1, D2, And DInc1, all will power up as soon as they're plug'd in.
Both my friend and i are rather intelligent, and if a sales rep at Sprint can reboot it, so can we. (after all, her is the only fone i mentioned not rooted)
What i'm looking for is:
1. Does this condition really exhist?
2. If so, how do I! reboot it?
Sometimes the Evo's battery will drop so low that it won't charge - it happens fairly often. You'll need to take the battery to a Sprint store so they can boost the battery.
An external wall charger should charge it too. It isn't a given that the battery won't charge after dying completely, it's just a possibility. I have never had it happen to me, but people start threads about it all the time thinking their phone is bricked.
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I have never heard of this happening and have never had it happen to me. Did a quick search and you may want to have a look at this thread HERE to see if you can find some answers.
plainjane said:
Sometimes the Evo's battery will drop so low that it won't charge - it happens fairly often. You'll need to take the battery to a Sprint store so they can boost the battery.
An external wall charger should charge it too. It isn't a given that the battery won't charge after dying completely, it's just a possibility. I have never had it happen to me, but people start threads about it all the time thinking their phone is bricked.
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Exactly what Jane said is correct. It will get so low sometimes that it will need to be "boosted". I have a battery right now that my wife let get so low I can't do anything with it so I just gave her my spare.
It's a known bug look here
Lokifish Marz said:
It's a known bug look here
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No it isn't. Its the protection circuit in the battery. In an undervolt (as in an overvolt) condition the charging circuit shuts down.
As was mentioned earlier, a wall charger can sometimes push the voltage high enough to "revive" the battery. I believe it depends on the battery.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_battery#Safety_requirements
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No it isn't. Its the protection circuit in the battery. In an undervolt (as in an overvolt) condition the charging circuit shuts down.
As was mentioned earlier, a wall charger can sometimes push the voltage high enough to "revive" the battery. I believe it depends on the battery.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_battery#Safety_requirements
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Exactly. Or if you're like me, an aggressive under volter, when you let the battery hit 0 and it auto shuts down, once plugged in, the charging like blinks for a about a minute before it stays solid, which is normal.
CyWhitfield said:
No it isn't. Its the protection circuit in the battery. In an undervolt (as in an overvolt) condition the charging circuit shuts down.
As was mentioned earlier, a wall charger can sometimes push the voltage high enough to "revive" the battery. I believe it depends on the battery.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_battery#Safety_requirements
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I'm sorry I can't link to the secured site bug list for the Evo however I service 10-20 Evo's a week where the owner has let the battery die to the point where the phone won't power or charge the battery. Pull the battery and drop it in a HTC Hero/Touch Pro 2 or external charger and it will charge but simply will not charge in an Evo. This does not affect all Evo's. I'll say again, this is a known bug.
I'm feeling pretty doomed too! I ordered two batteries plus a wall charger from ebay and have been charging it but it = ZERO! Plus I tried to charge the stock battery with the cable, and it still never charged! I thought it was the cord, but when I plug it into the pc, the usb de-bug still comes on. Earlier, I was on the phone with my bf, and dead it went when it was at 81% charged and I was on the phone for no more than 15 minutes. WTF IS WRONG WITH MY PHONE!? Rooted.
Hi xda,
i have recently bought these 2x 3600mah batteries from ebay. I cannot post the link but they are from an ebay store called bravo-ex. Its one of those white batteries with red and yellow stripes. The batteries brand says RD, but i think its a generic china brand or something.
Anyways,
I was able to use the batteries a first couple of times. I managed to charge both up only up to around 65%.
Now i have this problem where the charging indicator is not showing properly when i plug my phone in. There is no battery indicator lightning sign or moving. It stays stagnant at 5%. Tried charging for hours and nothing changes.
When i try to charge with phone turned off the phone will boot back up to home screen, instead of showing the big charging battery icon.
When i plug in the usb cable. Battery section in settings shows status as Not Charging but the led light still comes on red so i know there is charging going on but the battery meter doesnt move!
I have tried the following:
- edit build.prop battery capacity to 3600
- deleted the batterystats (couldnt delete at 100% because i cannot charge beyond 65%
- reflash to stock rom 2.3.4 and kernel (it did work for a while but went back again after a couple of plugging and unplugging)
- switching back to stock battery to check if usb port is faulty. The charging still works!
- changing around between 3 pairs of cables and chargers
My system is
-R800i
- Rom: Elite Gamer v2.0 GB
- Kernel: Lupus v12 for GB
- I had my digitizer and flex cable replaced at a third party service center about 2 weeks ago.
Please help me i am getting desperate. It may be the batteries are DOA but both batteries being dead seems a little unlikely. I really love this little piece of gaming heaven. I would really appreciate if someone can give me any expert advice. Thank you!
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i have discovered a weird and non permanent fix.
i have to swap the old battery and the extended batteries back and forth several times until the battery meter decides to show up on the extended one.
But it only works after like 10+ swaps and after few minutes of charging it goes off after like 10mins!
WTF!
I agree that you have wierd problem.
I would blame the charger, but you already test another one...
If i where you, i would measure voltage on battery after it stop charging with voltmeter. 0% should be 3.2V and 100% charged should be 4.2V. On both, stock and extended battery.
Also, measuring voltage at pins that connect the battety to see the voltage value (with battery removed and usb charger plugged in)
Or maybe contacts on usb jack on phone is dirty and can be cleaned with alcohol and cloath (with phone off and battery removed)
This is just wild guesses, i really can't say what is causing it
Sent from my R800i using xda app-developers app
I just received my new batteries from Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Q4NQQA0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
I charged it up in the external charger until it indicated full. When I installed it and booted, it said 91%. I ran it down to about 15%, then plugged the phone into the charger. Now it only goes up to 86%.
When I first swapped the battery, I held the power button for about 30 seconds then installed the battery (as recommended when flashing TX's Note port).
Is there a proper way to calibrate a new battery? Might I just have a defective one?
Thanks for any advice,
Mike
I recommend pulling it off the travel charger and putting it right back on. If the light changes within a minute it was full. If not... It wasn't. You can do the battery calibrate app but your phone will figure it out on its own.
My best advice is to toss your old battery and only use the 2 new matched batteries. The phone will have errors in battery percentage if it is calibrating batteries that have different discharge rates due to age/size.
In a perfect world only charge them on the travel charger
Put it back on to make sure it's 100.
Discharge to 0 or the point the phone shuts down every time as well
A few days and your phone will display correctly
THROW AWAY YOUR FAST CHARGER.
Fast charging is the fastest way to a new battery.
peterl23451 said:
THROW AWAY YOUR FAST CHARGER.
Fast charging is the fastest way to a new battery.
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The new MM has the option to turn off the fast charging, can't he just turn this off instead of trashing his charger?
xbmoyx said:
The new MM has the option to turn off the fast charging, can't he just turn this off instead of trashing his charger?
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Yeah. I wish we all had that option. I know some you have to plug in the fast charger to access the setting to turn it off.
I have been a fan of wireless charging for many years since my LG G4,
with the optional, QI charging rear case,
As the F3 lacks QI charging, i have been struggling to find a compatible charging receiver,
after buying 2 incompatible charging receivers, the black type with qi printing in the middle, from a well known UK auction site.
I thought I would try ALI, as i buy bits from there and came across this type in the photo,
and I can confirm it works a treat.
I use my F3 in a flip case and the receiver is still working up to a depth of 5mm.
Buying this QI charging receiver means Less wear and tear on the charge socket
and also helps a bit with water proofing and protects the socket from Dirt & Fluff
Could you link the item you bought from Ali that worked?
LilBlinx said:
Could you link the item you bought from Ali that worked?
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Hi,
I have just updated my post,
Cheers
How much time do you need 2 charge a full battery ?
Hi,
I have just checked Accubattery and a 30% charge (30 to 60% / 1.209 ma) took, 1hr 22m and this only achieved 0.04 battery wear cycles using a Swalle 5w wireless charger,
this is perfect for me
regards
johnr64 said:
Hi,
I am a low phone user and find that a 60% charge lasts me around 8 hours before I hit 30%.
I use a brilliant program called Advanced Charging Controller (ACCA) , that keeps my phone nicely topped up between 30 & 60%, i have just checked Accubattery and a 30% charge (30 to 60% / 1.209 ma) took, 1hr 22m and this only achieved 0.04 battery wear cycles, this is perfect for me
regards
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You need to read more user feedback lol
It's not recommended to be using it on xiaomi phones.
The chip in charge of charging will eventually die ( get corrupted or whatev ) and the phone becomes permanently bricked.
Aosp rom's experimented with it few months back , then fully removed it soon after reports came in.
Rstment ^m^ said:
You need to read more user feedback lol
It's not recommended to be using it on xiaomi phones.
The chip in charge of charging will eventually die ( get corrupted or whatev ) and the phone becomes permanently bricked.
Aosp rom's experimented with it few months back , then fully removed it soon after reports came in.
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Hi,
thanks for the heads up, i also read that users were depleting their batteries to 0%, using (ACC) then were unable to recover from a dead phone,
i also read that to recover from this issue was to leave the phone plugged in for a long time or to jump start the phone buy putting a small amount of external charge into their battery,
yes this does mean removing the battery from the phone and injecting a small amount of charge.
I might just buy a spare BM4Y from ALI for around £16 including taxes just in case.
I have two battery charge alarms set to 25% for peace of mind of,
not getting anywhere near 0%
IF I AM INCORRECT THEN I WILL EDIT MY POST,
Keep me informed,
cheers.
johnr64 said:
Hi,
thanks for the heads up, i also read that users were depleting their batteries to 0%, using (ACC) then were unable to recover from a dead phone,
i also read that to recover from this issue was to leave the phone plugged in for a long time or to jump start the phone buy putting a small amount of external charge into their battery,
yes this does mean removing the battery from the phone and injecting a small amount of charge.
I might just buy a spare BM4Y from ALI for around £16 including taxes just in case.
I have two battery charge alarms set to 25% for peace of mind of,
not getting anywhere near 0%
IF I AM INCORRECT THEN I WILL EDIT MY POST,
Keep me informed,
cheers.
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You do you man xd...
Not something I wanna mess with at all , I've experienced plenty amount of times having the phone discharge while plugged in with that app installed.
Even when I go to bed and leave the phone plugged in , I wake up and battery is 40-50% lower than what it was the night before... I had 2/3 nights of wondering did I forget to plug the phone and sleepwalk into plugging it in few minutes before waking up?
It's crazy bad on this phone , If I was to ever use it for something that would be to disable battery charging altogether and power the phone fully from outlet when in use - but that toggle doesn't work either xd
I see no use in it , more trouble than good in using it. This is a really shet phone , one that I don't see myself using for long.
Rstment ^m^ said:
You do you man xd...
Not something I wanna mess with at all , I've experienced plenty amount of times having the phone discharge while plugged in with that app installed.
Even when I go to bed and leave the phone plugged in , I wake up and battery is 40-50% lower than what it was the night before... I had 2/3 nights of wondering did I forget to plug the phone and sleepwalk into plugging it in few minutes before waking up?
It's crazy bad on this phone , If I was to ever use it for something that would be to disable battery charging altogether and power the phone fully from outlet when in use - but that toggle doesn't work either xd
I see no use in it , more trouble than good in using it. This is a really shet phone , one that I don't see myself using for long.
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Thank you for your Update,
i don`t charge my phone overnight,
i will edit my listing in case anyone else faces your issue,
with new android updates, SMART CHARGING might be available for all phones and hopefully the devs can make it compatible with the F3.
Samsung already has this function working on some of their phones,
Cheers
johnr64 said:
Hi,
thanks for the heads up, i also read that users were depleting their batteries to 0%, using (ACC) then were unable to recover from a dead phone,
i also read that to recover from this issue was to leave the phone plugged in for a long time or to jump start the phone buy putting a small amount of external charge into their battery,
yes this does mean removing the battery from the phone and injecting a small amount of charge.
I might just buy a spare BM4Y from ALI for around £16 including taxes just in case.
I have two battery charge alarms set to 25% for peace of mind of,
not getting anywhere near 0%
IF I AM INCORRECT THEN I WILL EDIT MY POST,
Keep me informed,
cheers.
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i agree the charging chip might suffer if u set too many parameters, I personally use a charging limit set to 80% and leave everything else as default that should extend battery health and protect it from overcharging or staying on 100% plugged in, but I turn it off at least once a month and charge it fully.
Thanks for the tip, just received the linked receiver and it works for me as well.
Also tried two others before (generic one with "Type C" printed on it and one from Nillkin), neither worked. After finding this thread, I decided to gave it one last try.
Interesting detail: while trying to get the other two to work, I tried connecting them through a USB-C power tester and... it started to charge.
msylw said:
Thanks for the tip, just received the linked receiver and it works for me as well.
Also tried two others before (generic one with "Type C" printed on it and one from Nillkin), neither worked. After finding this thread, I decided to gave it one last try.
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Hi,
I am glad i could help,
for all the ACCA Doubters, my F3 has been happily charging between 35% & 60% for the last 4 weeks and i have not had any issues with my phone not turning on.
I've been looking for many years for the ultimate battery charging app that restricts my phone from charging to 100%, to save on battery cycles and thus keeping my battery in tip top condition,
I can confirm that ACCA Nailed it.
For those of you that are interested in maintaining your battery,
this is how my F3 is setup,
I use the brilliant Descendant Rom V1921, rooted with Magisk for ACCA,
Advanced Charging Controller (ACCA),
also Accubattery to monitor battery cycles and Battery alarm by Zoran Vujacic, this warns me regarding my battery levels,
both apps are available from the Play store.
I set Battery alarm to warn me when my battery drops below 25% and above 60% i also use Accubattery to monitor my battery health and keep an eye on my charge cycles.
I charge my phone between 35% and 60%, acuubattery reports that i have only used 0.003 cycles, (this lasts me around 8 hours).
REGARDING ACCA
Do not let your phone charge drop to 0%, otherwise you may not be able to charge or turn your phone on, this issue has been reported using other xiaomi phones and roms.
Use ACCA at your own risk,
again i hope this helps someone,
johnr64 said:
Hi,
I am glad i could help,
for all the ACCA Doubters, my F3 has been happily charging between 35% & 60% for the last 4 weeks and i have not had any issues with my phone not turning on.
I've been looking for many years for the ultimate battery charging app that restricts my phone from charging to 100%, to save on battery cycles and thus keeping my battery in tip top condition,
I can confirm that ACCA Nailed it.
For those of you that are interested in maintaining your battery,
this is how my F3 is setup,
I use the brilliant Descendant Rom V1921, rooted with Magisk for ACCA,
Advanced Charging Controller (ACCA),
also Accubattery to monitor battery cycles and Battery alarm by Zoran Vujacic, this warns me regarding my battery levels,
both apps are available from the Play store.
I set Battery alarm to warn me when my battery drops below 25% and above 60% i also use Accubattery to monitor my battery health and keep an eye on my charge cycles.
I charge my phone between 35% and 60%, acuubattery reports that i have only used 0.003 cycles, (this lasts me around 8 hours).
REGARDING ACCA
Do not let your phone charge drop to 0%, otherwise you may not be able to charge or turn your phone on, this issue has been reported using other xiaomi phones and roms.
Use ACCA at your own risk,
again i hope this helps someone,
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What charging switch are you using? And did you able to change voltage and current?
finalgravity525 said:
What charging switch are you using? And did you able to change voltage and current?
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Hi,
I use Advanced Charging Controller (ACCA) as in my previous post, i don`t use Voltage/Current limit functions, i just set the maximum charge limit.
ACCA is a Software only based charging app, it requires Root access for it to work, i have attached some screen shots of ACCA, as you can see it has lots of useful functions.
I have also attached pictures of my slightly modified QI Wireless receiver, i did this by putting aluminium foil around the receiver to dissipate a little bit more heat.
As my phone is in a clam style case and with the warmer weather slowly on its way, anything to help the QI receiver with heat has to be a good thing, especially as the receiver is in close proximity to the F3`s Li-ion battery.
I hope this helps
Bought 2 of them (in case of) from this ali vendor and I can confirm it works fine with the F3, thanks OP
It works at full 1A/5W
EDIT: one of the receiver does not work anymore, tested with different chargers/phones :-/
Hello!
So I had my Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ taken in to the device repair shop in my town because of the battery not lasting long at all. They did testing and said that the wireless charging coil FPC had cold solder joints. I'm not sure what that means exactly but I had replaced the wireless charging coil and the phone is still dying at random times and at random phone percentage life.
I attached a copy of what the device repair shop had said about the issue with my phone.
stephsmith69 said:
Hello!
So I had my Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ taken in to the device repair shop in my town because of the battery not lasting long at all. They did testing and said that the wireless charging coil FPC had cold solder joints. I'm not sure what that means exactly but I had replaced the wireless charging coil and the phone is still dying at random times and at random phone percentage life.
I attached a copy of what the device repair shop had said about the issue with my phone.
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Was it ever exposed to water? Any drops without a good case protecting it?
Does wired charging work?
Otherwise possible battery failure. Probably should've had the battery replaced when it was apart.
Loose or damaged ribbon cable or connector.
Worse case a mobo failure.
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stephsmith69 said:
Hello!
So I had my Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ taken in to the device repair shop in my town because of the battery not lasting long at all. They did testing and said that the wireless charging coil FPC had cold solder joints. I'm not sure what that means exactly but I had replaced the wireless charging coil and the phone is still dying at random times and at random phone percentage life.
I attached a copy of what the device repair shop had said about the issue with my phone.
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'Cold solder' is normally a reference to broken, cracked or just over all a bad solder joint. This would cause a bad, week (high resistance, low voltage) or no connection of the circuit.
If the battery was not charging properly, as blackhawk mentioned, the batter could now be bad.
Was the repair shop able to test the battery?
I am not a Sammy guy but, from what I understand they are a bit heavy on battery monitoring.
Maybe just give it a few charging cycles to see if the battery life improves.
Out of curiosity, what battery percentage is shown when the device turns off?
Cheers.
ipdev said:
'Cold solder' is normally a reference to broken, cracked or just over all a bad solder joint. This would cause a bad, week (high resistance, low voltage) or no connection of the circuit.
If the battery was not charging properly, as blackhawk mentioned, the batter could now be bad.
Was the repair shop able to test the battery?
I am not a Sammy guy but, from what I understand they are a bit heavy on battery monitoring.
Maybe just give it a few charging cycles to see if the battery life improves.
Out of curiosity, what battery percentage is shown when the device turns off?
Cheers.
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It may be the battery, I'm not sure. The guy at the device shop said it doesn't charge normal and had a .6 amp draw when he hooked it up to his deal. And no, no water damage or any other damage.
And my phone dies at random phone percentages. It could die at 85%, 70%, 50% I mean any percentage, and I don't even know when it's going to die when it does! But then when I put it on the charger, after about 5 minutes it'll already be at 50% charged.
I just want to be able to fix this myself instead of sending it in and paying an outrageous amount haha
I appreciate ya'lls help!
stephsmith69 said:
It may be the battery, I'm not sure. The guy at the device shop said it doesn't charge normal and had a .6 amp draw when he hooked it up to his deal. And no, no water damage or any other damage.
And my phone dies at random phone percentages. It could die at 85%, 70%, 50% I mean any percentage, and I don't even know when it's going to die when it does! But then when I put it on the charger, after about 5 minutes it'll already be at 50% charged.
I just want to be able to fix this myself instead of sending it in and paying an outrageous amount haha
I appreciate ya'lls help!
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Replace the battery, especially if it's over 2 yo.
Start there.
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