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Please help - I think i have bricked my universal

Hello,
i have tried a while a go to flash the rom of my universal. Somehow it did not work out and straight after it the battery did not charge anymore. I have just purchased a new battery but it still does not charge neither turn on.
The only thing i can do is press the two action buttons so the unit asks me if i want to clear the memory. No matter what i do nothing happens after. The unit just does not start up. When i connest it to the pc there is a noise so the computer seems to recognize it.
The charge light does not switch on when i try to charge it on the computer nor on the power supply.
Is there anything i can do to save it?
Tia

Come on guys, someone must have some idea what to try.

dosada said:
Come on guys, someone must have some idea what to try.
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Have you tried a method form Wiki?
A lot of people found it effective
Good luck,

Not sure what you mean. I have used the search but haven't found any solution. What is the Wiki?

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Universal

dosada said:
Hello,
i have tried a while a go to flash the rom of my universal. Somehow it did not work out and straight after it the battery did not charge anymore. I have just purchased a new battery but it still does not charge neither turn on.
The only thing i can do is press the two action buttons so the unit asks me if i want to clear the memory. No matter what i do nothing happens after. The unit just does not start up. When i connest it to the pc there is a noise so the computer seems to recognize it.
The charge light does not switch on when i try to charge it on the computer nor on the power supply.
Is there anything i can do to save it?
Tia
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My universal is also dead!
But I manage to charge the battery.
I cover the two midle pin's of the baterry with adhesive tape.
And I monitor the charge of the batery using a multimeter.
It charges. I Manage to get from 3.7 to 4.10 volts in 2 hours.
I don't know the maximum value for the baterry so I stoped here.

[SOLVED!!] Looping Bootloader or startup and unable to charge to reflash

I really don't know what's just happened...I think maybe my TP2 just decided to die on me.
I was using NRGZ Leo ROM from 22nd Feb. All was going well until my battery ran out today. At the time, my daughter was playing a game on it, not from WM, but from the Android port (Haret). While she was playing, I heard the familiar short vibrate of a soft reset. I know my battery was low and I suspect the battery wasn't charging, although it was plugged in (not sure if Android supports charging yet in the later builds)
Anyway, for some reason, it wouldn't go past the vibrate/Touch Pro2 screen. It just kept resetting and looping back. I attempted to do a hardware reset (power button, talk/send, end buttons) but accidently chose the wrong combo (power button, volume down) and entered bootloader. No problem yet, just reset and try again, right? Only I didn't get the chance, as it reset itself and looped through bootloader.
Now I am stuck in this loop. I can't flash from SD as it wont stay on long enough before self-resetting to find the RHODIMG.nbh on the card. I can't connect to my PC as it wont stay in bootloader long enough before self-resetting for my PC to install the "Windows Mobile Device" drivers, and even if it did, when it self-resets, it would disconnect anyway. I can't connect to MTTY for the same reason. I can't connect to ActiveSync or WMDC as I can't boot to WM to get ActiveSync running on the device.
When plugged in to AC power or through USB, it fires itself up automatically and into this loop, and it wont turn off manually, reset or accept any other button combos to enter RUU (from SD method) or to do hard reset. When it is not plugged in to any power source it won't even switch on.
I suspect it is resetting as it is not charging. I'm guessing that when in bootloader, charging is disabled, and I think this because I was originally getting 3 seconds of bootloader, now I am getting around 8 seconds, but it doesn't get any better than that, and I don't know of a rom upgrade method that can be done in 8 seconds! There are a few seconds of charging time before bootloader kicks in and the orange LED goes out and presumably stops charging. Am I right in thinking there is no charging in bootloader and in the Android port (I am using the latest version from 27/2, rhod100).
Basically, to summarise, I am stuck in bootloader-reset-bootloader loop, I cannot connect to pc in any way, flash from SD, Hard Reset, I have very little or no battery and it won't charge because it keeps going into bootloader where there is no charging taking place and it wont turn off to charge that way either.
Any help will be greatly appreciated. I don't hold out much hope though. At the moment, it doesn't seem that I am able to interact with it at all to make it do anything different or to manipulate what it is trying to do. Hopefully someone will see something familiar and maybe have some suggestions.
Oh, and by the way, it's nothing to do with a bad flash. I've been doing this for long enough to know what I'm doing, and I wasn't even doing a rom upgrade at the time. My last rom upgrade was 2 days ago and all went well, and I have been using it without problems since, until now. I haven't flashed my Radio or SPL since HSPL was released, so I know it has nothing to do with that either.
Thanks in advance for anyone who can give any advice at all, or even just take pitty on me! Apologies for all the text. I know it looks boring and may put some people off reading, but I needed to get all the info in.

Are you able to charge when it completely turned off?

can you pull the battery out, put it back in and simply charge for an hour or so to get some juice into the battery?
Then you could maybe reflash it from the bootloader or sd card...

shadixs said:
Are you able to charge when it completely turned off?
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I can't get it to turn off, power button has no effect.
clauswl said:
can you pull the battery out, put it back in and simply charge for an hour or so to get some juice into the battery?
Then you could maybe reflash it from the bootloader or sd card...
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If I take the battery out, obviously, it cuts the power and the looping stops...until I put the battery back in, and it starts itself again. I can't stop the loop and I can't turn the power off or even stop it switching itself on.

matmaneyre said:
I can't get it to turn off, power button has no effect.
If I take the battery out, obviously, it cuts the power and the looping stops...until I put the battery back in, and it starts itself again. I can't stop the loop and I can't turn the power off or even stop it switching itself on.
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I had exactly that problem after a bad romflash. I bought a decktop cradle for the tp 2 that has 2nd. battery charger. Charged the battery and reflash, everything was ok again.
So, juice up the battery and do a hard reset or reflash..
SOMETHING LIKE THIS

I know you prob dont wanna hear it, but id say its a warranty job. Theyll just force flash it anyway so they wont notice the rom you were using.

Cheers guys. I thought it might be the rom. Not sure how though as like I said, my last rom flash was a couple of days ago and it was fine. Guess these things just happen sometimes. I'll try and get the battery charged somehow. Trouble is, I don't know another single person who has a TP2, so it looks like the cradle option I think. It did cross my mind to be honest when I was trying to think of alternative charging methods.
As for the warranty idea, if it can be avoided, I'd rather not take that route if I can help it, but thanks for the suggestion. Lets just say that will remain an option as my last resort if all else fails.
Still open to suggestions if anyone knows of any miracles....any Hogwarts graduates kicking about these forums with a few magic words to spare?

Hey man, I had the same issue when my phone wouldn't for some unknown reason charge.
1) Take our your battery
2) Plug in your DESKTOP CHARGER (not USB from PC!!) to microUSB slot
3) Put your battery back
4) Wait few moments (5 minutes)
5) and you are ready to boot, now you can even charge from USB. No idea why, but looks like booting takes more than 500mA :O
If it wont help, swap those 2 and 3 points

Hey guys! Please give this thread a better title. More related to the problem. Sounds like it could be useful in the future for hopefully very few people.

OK, I will change the thread title. I searched for quite a while but couldn't find any similar cases. But it seems it is more common than I thought since I raised the issue, so a new, more specific title might be more beneficial to other users experiencing similar problems.
For the record, I haven't solved it yet. Waiting on a standalone battery charger I bought from eBay. Didn't really want the cradle. THIS is the one I have bought. I will update on my progress when it arrives.
Thanks for your help to all who have contributed so far.

Hi I have the same problem the phone won't charge or connect via usb I think it is a faulty usb port the phone have & because of that it is causing the phone to go to bootloader.

I've had this happen before, just plug it into the mains charger (wall charger) and let it sit for a while. It will loop a couple times but once there is enough juice in the battery it will be back to normal.
Since you have RHODIMG.nbh on your sd card, maybe taking your sd card out would help it a bit.
There have been other posts with the same issue and plugging it into mains will solve the problem
spark001uk said:
I know you prob dont wanna hear it, but id say its a warranty job. Theyll just force flash it anyway so they wont notice the rom you were using.
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Not true. just the battery is really low, once charged enough to power device after boot, everything will be back to normal.

fone_fanatic said:
Not true. just the battery is really low, once charged enough to power device after boot, everything will be back to normal.
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Seems like it would make sense. I don't have my wall charger on me now...does the Rhodium not boot up without a battery in it? I thought my old Hermes did, guess I've never tried it with the TP2.

This might sound a little stupid, but I actually know somebody that said it worked for his iPhone (waste of 3-4 mins if not). Plug in the USB charger from PC. Reboot the PC without disconnecting the phone. Wait 3-4 minutes...

Toleraen said:
Seems like it would make sense. I don't have my wall charger on me now...does the Rhodium not boot up without a battery in it? I thought my old Hermes did, guess I've never tried it with the TP2.
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from what i remember, it won't boot without the battery.

fone_fanatic said:
I've had this happen before, just plug it into the mains charger (wall charger) and let it sit for a while. It will loop a couple times but once there is enough juice in the battery it will be back to normal.
Since you have RHODIMG.nbh on your sd card, maybe taking your sd card out would help it a bit.
There have been other posts with the same issue and plugging it into mains will solve the problem
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I left it looping for hours....no joy I'm afraid. Just gonna have to wait for this charger to arrive I think
Toleraen said:
Seems like it would make sense. I don't have my wall charger on me now...does the Rhodium not boot up without a battery in it? I thought my old Hermes did, guess I've never tried it with the TP2.
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fone_fanatic said:
from what i remember, it won't boot without the battery.
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Definitely doesn't power up plugged in without a battery. Battery needs to be present. Still waiting on this charger though. I'm hoping it's not one of those where it says the item location is Cardiff (UK) when actually it's in Hong Kong and takes 14 years to arrive

soocerclaude said:
Hi I have the same problem the phone won't charge or connect via usb I think it is a faulty usb port the phone have & because of that it is causing the phone to go to bootloader.
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I really don't think it's the mini usb port as it charges and tries to connect to pc before bootloader kicks in & it all stops.

Hi I found a way 2 get past the bootloader loop just plug your headphones went in bootloader and restarted the phone but it still won't charge or sync with computer.

soocerclaude said:
Hi I found a way 2 get past the bootloader loop just plug your headphones went in bootloader and restarted the phone but it still won't charge or sync with computer.
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Well when I unplug the ac adapter, mine doesn't last on bootloader for more than a couple of seconds before dying. Doesn't even get to the RHODIMG.nbh update screen that way - not enough charge (I'm still hoping). Tried charging overnight while looping but still wouldn't charge enough. The trouble is that obviously the bootloader is killing the battery as it's not charging very much.
Got my charger finally....but they sent the wrong one. Waiting on a response from the seller. The "dock" on the charger wasn't big enough, so while the connectors were in the right place to charge the battery, the battery didn't sit flush, so they wouldn't reach the points on the battery itself. Hope they have a TP2 one & it's not just them thinking it's compatible, as it's the only one on the whole of ebay UK that has them in stock in the UK. Don't want to have to wait up to 2 weeks for one from HK.
I will keep you posted anyway.

Hi I brought mine 2 get fix because my warrenty got void due 2 water damage. I think it is the usb port that is causing this, saw in other forums the same thing. Will get back the phone on monday & I will update u on the situation.

[Q] Flashed Caulkin's_format_all.zip, will not turn on

I had flashed Caulkin's_format_all.zip and I managed to accidentally reboot my phone before flashing a rom or anything. The phone will not power on, and if I plug it in, the charge indicator will not turn on. I've already tried pulling the batt for 5 minutes with no luck. any suggestions?

I did this once by being too quick at pushing the power button , I was able to reboot into recovery by pushing volume down and power button and then install a backup or you could flash rom. Hope this helps.

problem is, I can't even get it to boot, be it normal boot or bootloader.

If you hook it up to the computer, is it recognized?

Your going to have to borrow someones battery. I've seen people with this problem and for some reason, your phone won't recognize your battery and since it won't it won't charge it. Trust me, stick in a different battery and you will boot right up.

I've tried using my sprint extended life batt and the stock htc batt. neither worked.

and pc won't even recognize it.

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I've tried using my sprint extended life batt and the stock htc batt. neither worked.
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So 100% sure that both batteries you've tried have a charge on them? And still no led when plugged in, to computer or wall? That sucks, because it sounds like it got bricked, somehow. I have also accidentally booted after flashing calk's format all from hitting the power button too quick, and as the other guy said, I was able to get to the bootloader by voldown+power, and restore a nandroid. I don't know what went differently in your case, but if you're positive that the batteries you've tried are good and charged, and you get no power led plugged into the wall, then it does sound like you somehow got a brick? Did you try leaving it plugged in for some time? A couple hours maybe, just to see if the led comes on?

Also make sure you are using a wall charger, I know if my battery charge is too low or dead the usb on my computer won't work, I then have to use the wall charger. The led will flash at first before starting to charge. When led is flashing phone won't turn on.
Edit:I just saw wall charging mentioned in previous post. I guess it shows the importance of it

I haven't tried leaving it plugged in. doing that now.

so I took it into the sprint store today and even the techs couldnt figure it out. I've got a replacement on the way. thanks for your suggestions guys!

spalding1028 said:
so I took it into the sprint store today and even the techs couldnt figure it out. I've got a replacement on the way. thanks for your suggestions guys!
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Well i guess that may be a way of doing it. Completely break the phone if something goes wrong during root

hmmm.... weird.... your phone decided it had enough flashing apparently
First ive seen of a phone completely bricked that wasn't during a radio update.

[Q] Flashed ROM, worked perfectly, won't turn on now

So I ended up flashing CM12 located in one of the other threads to play around with 5.0. It worked perfectly, no problems to be found or anything. However at one point, I went to grab it and play a game, the screen refused to turn on. I tried the Power + Vol. up trick and it still didn't do anything. Concerned (as I was toying around with a resolution app to pump it to 1600x900 res) I continued to try to force reboot it, and tried the Power + Vol. down trick to get into recovery. I plugged it into my computer to see if I can use ADB to force it to reboot and I get an error: no device found. So now I'm stuck waiting for the power to drain completely but it's been close to 24 hours and it still doesnt work. However my computer dings immediately as soon as I plug it in so it sounds like it's still alive (however there's no charging light on). How boned am I? Anything else I can try?

NotRankin said:
So I ended up flashing CM12 located in one of the other threads to play around with 5.0. It worked perfectly, no problems to be found or anything. However at one point, I went to grab it and play a game, the screen refused to turn on. I tried the Power + Vol. up trick and it still didn't do anything. Concerned (as I was toying around with a resolution app to pump it to 1600x900 res) I continued to try to force reboot it, and tried the Power + Vol. down trick to get into recovery. I plugged it into my computer to see if I can use ADB to force it to reboot and I get an error: no device found. So now I'm stuck waiting for the power to drain completely but it's been close to 24 hours and it still doesnt work. However my computer dings immediately as soon as I plug it in so it sounds like it's still alive (however there's no charging light on). How boned am I? Anything else I can try?
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I think there are 2 other cases exactly like yours, that makes me not want to use CM12.
Wait for the device to die, then try if adb recognizes it, or if you can get into recovery.

FoxyDrew said:
I think there are 2 other cases exactly like yours, that makes me not want to use CM12.
Wait for the device to die, then try if adb recognizes it, or if you can get into recovery.
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ok, I'll continue waiting, thanks for the info. I'll go ahead and flash CM11 and use that for awhile until HTC pushes their 5.0 out or if problems are fixed. Hopefully it won't take too much longer for the device to die...

2 days later, nothing, opened it up and removed the battery (was surprisingly a joke to do it too), plugged it back in, again nothing, plugged it into PC and the usual ding can be heard from the PC (But no charging light). Guess it's dead. If anyone else figures anything out, feel free to lemme know, back to the old broken screen Reverb for now.

NotRankin said:
2 days later, nothing, opened it up and removed the battery (was surprisingly a joke to do it too), plugged it back in, again nothing, plugged it into PC and the usual ding can be heard from the PC (But no charging light). Guess it's dead. If anyone else figures anything out, feel free to lemme know, back to the old broken screen Reverb for now.
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Unplug the battery, and then plug the phone into the charger with the battery out. Then after 10-15 minutes, plug the battery back in without unplugging the phone. Then just let the phone charge for a few hours. That has worked for me on other phones several times.

FoxyDrew said:
Unplug the battery, and then plug the phone into the charger with the battery out. Then after 10-15 minutes, plug the battery back in without unplugging the phone. Then just let the phone charge for a few hours. That has worked for me on other phones several times.
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Unfortunately it didn't work, literally nothing changed. Slight ringing noise from under the heatsink though when plugged in. Guessing it's fubar?

NotRankin said:
Unfortunately it didn't work, literally nothing changed. Slight ringing noise from under the heatsink though when plugged in. Guessing it's fubar?
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If theres still no charging lite? Possibly. You could try to charge the battery with a split charger. However thats last resort and can break your battery if it doesn't work.

NotRankin said:
Unfortunately it didn't work, literally nothing changed. Slight ringing noise from under the heatsink though when plugged in. Guessing it's fubar?
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Or you could use your manufacturers warranty and send that baby back in for a fresh one. Claim a defect... Why? Because it is a defect. If you can't get it to boot with adb / rooted methods then their stock methods won't work nor detect anything. Besides, the worse they'll do is send your phone back the same way it got to them.
Also, if the others who ran into this issue could give feedback on if they modified screen resolution before the device kicked on CM12 that would be most informative.
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a bit of a necro, but a headup/final question.
Amazon gave me a full refund (took awhile) and getting a new Desire. However I'm wondering if anyone else has encountered this issue? I REALLY want to keep using Android 5.0 but I'm slightly worried about if it was just bad luck with 5.0, an actual issue with 5.0, or me screwing it up myself with changing my resolution (I don't think I even touched my DPI)(Virgin Mobile US Desire 816).

NotRankin said:
a bit of a necro, but a headup/final question.
Amazon gave me a full refund (took awhile) and getting a new Desire. However I'm wondering if anyone else has encountered this issue? I REALLY want to keep using Android 5.0 but I'm slightly worried about if it was just bad luck with 5.0, an actual issue with 5.0, or me screwing it up myself with changing my resolution (I don't think I even touched my DPI)(Virgin Mobile US Desire 816).
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A ROM can't fry your phone like this, so you have nothing to worry about. The issue with your last phone wasn't because of CM12.

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A ROM can't fry your phone like this, so you have nothing to worry about. The issue with your last phone wasn't because of CM12.
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So either I screwed something up or it was a screwed up phone in the first place (I'm inclined to believe this as it was frequently getting into a locked state where I'd have to force reboot it via the vol/power buttons). Guess I'll go for it, thanks!

Tab S 8.4 died suddenly..HELP!!!

Hi guys.
I think my problem has been covered before but I can't seem to get the tablet to turn back on.
It was working fine. It was on about 20% battery so I put it on charge overnight like I often do. I went to use it the next day and it was switched off. I tried to turn it back on but nothing. No light indicating it was charging either. I have tried holding power and volume up and down and home keys (All combinations) and nothing has worked. Done this whilst plugged in to the mains and laptop and unplugged as well. Nothing. I've even tried taking the back cover off and unplugging the battery cable and plugging it back in but still nothing. I haven't been able to find anything else that might help.
I've ordered a new battery, hoping it's just the battery that has died.
Anyone else have any ideas or experiences with a similar problem?
Thanks in advance
Simon
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Try holding POWER + VOL DOWN for about 20 secs.

Thanks for the reply.
I have tried this numerous times. Nothing.
I ordered a new battery and fitted it but there is still no sign of life. I'm thinking its maybe a motherboard issue. Anybody else have any thoughts??

MATE if u still have warranty return it, but if not get it replaced, u can do ur own diagnostic and use a multimeter to check if power from battery to motherboard has voltage, if thats to hard for u to do, get it repaired at ur local authorized Samsung dealer.

anybody near you got ipad? use their charger and see if it can power up or not.

edan1979 said:
anybody near you got ipad? use their charger and see if it can power up or not.
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I pad, don't they use proprietary charging ports?