Is it worth waiting for S-off? - One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

IIRC on my m7 s off was required to be able to switch to stock GPE android. But I read somewhere google has no plans to make a play edition of the m9 so is it even worth waiting to do s-off on the m9 or just start flashing away with Roms?
Waiting because previously I didn't and wait and I remember it being a PITA to do s off if you were already rooted and flashed a rom

The s-off method will be sunshine.
It will cost $25 and will be simple... Your phone will need to be rooted I believe.
So... No. Dont wait for S-off... get your flash on.
S-off is really only needed if you wish to upgrade your firmware (recommended) without going back to stock and using the official RUU / OTA method.
After flashing custom roms, you should be able to s-off anytime when sunshine is released for the m9 without any major issues. The process should be no different on stock rooted or custom ROM.

Downloaded the sunshine app and it says the phone is compatible even though the site says up to 5.0.1 (I have 5.0.2). Seems like they got it... anyone used it yet?
Edit: nm. Found the thread that confirms s-off.

sunshine
Sunshine s off works smoothly and is so easy to use great app well worth $25

minyaen said:
Downloaded the sunshine app and it says the phone is compatible even though the site says up to 5.0.1 (I have 5.0.2). Seems like they got it... anyone used it yet?
Edit: nm. Found the thread that confirms s-off.
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I just used it on my AT&T M9 with 5.02 and worked without a problem!

I had my Developer Edition M9 for 2 week's never rooted it I jus waited for 's-off via Sunshine and Saturday morning I rooted it and got s-off . But I'm still stock rom as I haven't felt the need to flash any others.
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scoot0073 said:
I had my Developer Edition M9 for 2 week's never rooted it I jus waited for 's-off via Sunshine and Saturday morning I rooted it and got s-off . But I'm still stock rom as I haven't felt the need to flash any others.
Sent from my HTC One M9 using Tapatalk
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hi i installed twrp but now want to go back to stock. i havenr rooted i just want to go back to stock recovery and relock my bootloader for now. every time i try and fastboot the original recovery method it asks for s-off
how do i go back to stock recovery and s-off?
does sunshine allow us to turn s-off off and on and unroot?

mikey_sk said:
hi i installed twrp but now want to go back to stock. i havenr rooted i just want to go back to stock recovery and relock my bootloader for now. every time i try and fastboot the original recovery method it asks for s-off
how do i go back to stock recovery and s-off?
does sunshine allow us to turn s-off off and on and unroot?
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Are you trying to flash recovery from hboot ? if so do it from download mode.

gffmac said:
Are you trying to flash recovery from hboot ? if so do it from download mode.
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sorry im coming from a nexus where flashing using fastboot was easy as pie. i go into download mode and run the necessary fastboot scripts, i just get an error that s is ON etc and cannot flash the stock recovery.
hboot? am i missing something?

mikey_sk said:
sorry im coming from a nexus where flashing using fastboot was easy as pie. i go into download mode and run the necessary fastboot scripts, i just get an error that s is ON etc and cannot flash the stock recovery.
hboot? am i missing something?
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Are you still unlocked? It should let you flash the recovery with s-on 'fastboot flash recovery recovery.img' - while in download mode.

xxquicksh0txx said:
Are you still unlocked? It should let you flash the recovery with s-on 'fastboot flash recovery recovery.img' - while in download mode.
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yes u are correct, i must have been using a non signed or corrupt image, downloaded the developer edition recovery and that worked fine.
first time with a HTC so havent really had to deal with this layer
i think i will wait and stick to stock and keep the warranty intact for now until development becomes more mature.
just saw the M9+ feel a tad ripped off. The mediatek processor PRETTY MUCH MIRRORS THE 810!!!!! qhd screen and fingerprint scanner to boot

I am using custom ROMS with unlocked bootloader and S-ON. So what is the benefit of S-OFF ??

mikey_sk said:
yes u are correct, i must have been using a non signed or corrupt image, downloaded the developer edition recovery and that worked fine.
first time with a HTC so havent really had to deal with this layer
i think i will wait and stick to stock and keep the warranty intact for now until development becomes more mature.
just saw the M9+ feel a tad ripped off. The mediatek processor PRETTY MUCH MIRRORS THE 810!!!!! qhd screen and fingerprint scanner to boot
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It's even changed coming from the M7/M8, they changed the way a few things work and it's thrown everyone through a little loop.
Your warranty will basically always be intact. They warn you that it *could* be voided when you unlock-- Which stays "voided" even if you go back to stock. HTC always seems to honor the warranty if it actually is due to a manufacturer defect.
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dream_fun said:
I am using custom ROMS with unlocked bootloader and S-ON. So what is the benefit of S-OFF ??
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You can get rid of that red text on boot-up that says it's for developmental purposes only.
You could make your device any version(carrier > WWE/Dev)
It's just a nice thing to have.

xxquicksh0txx said:
It's even changed coming from the M7/M8, they changed the way a few things work and it's thrown everyone through a little loop.
Your warranty will basically always be intact. They warn you that it *could* be voided when you unlock-- Which stays "voided" even if you go back to stock. HTC always seems to honor the warranty if it actually is due to a manufacturer defect.
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You can get rid of that red text on boot-up that says it's for developmental purposes only.
You could make your device any version(carrier > WWE/Dev)
It's just a nice thing to have.
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and this is my main question is all the WWE custom roms that are made are already compatible with us carriers versions of the m9 without us having to s-off and change firmware.
so whats the reason to soff and change firmware when all wwe custom roms are already compatible?

For example to be simply able writing into aboot LOCKED instead of RELOCKED.. or full transformation into another region ROM capable taking the intended OTAs.. and many other things, Bro!

jauhien said:
For example to be simply able writing into aboot LOCKED instead of RELOCKED.. or full transformation into another region ROM capable taking the intended OTAs.. and many other things, Bro!
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I came from a nexus 5 so dealing with these different ROM variants is new to me. I have an at&t m9 and do I need to s off and change my super cid before flashing one of these Roms? Also to be able to get another region ota will that change my radios? The reason why im asking is would I loose my LTE from at&t?
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cables2590 said:
I came from a nexus 5 so dealing with these different ROM variants is new to me. I have an at&t m9 and do I need to s off and change my super cid before flashing one of these Roms? Also to be able to get another region ota will that change my radios? The reason why im asking is would I loose my LTE from at&t?
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You can flash any rom simply by being unlocked with a custom recovery. Most of the GSM roms are compatible with every carrier. I know there were some data issues at first(Mainly not having the correct APN's), but they all should be worked out by now.
Should note: S-off is not needed to have a custom rom. It's only needed for those users who want a little *more*

xxquicksh0txx said:
You can flash any rom simply by being unlocked with a custom recovery. Most of the GSM roms are compatible with every carrier. I know there were some data issues at first(Mainly not having the correct APN's), but they all should be worked out by now.
Should note: S-off is not needed to have a custom rom. It's only needed for those users who want a little *more*
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So if I wanted to update the firmwares is as easy as replacing cid with 11111111 and can I update parts of the firmwares... I don't want to lose my at&t LTE
Sent from my Nexus 9 using XDA Free mobile app

mikey_sk said:
sorry im coming from a nexus where flashing using fastboot was easy as pie. i go into download mode and run the necessary fastboot scripts, i just get an error that s is ON etc and cannot flash the stock recovery.
hboot? am i missing something?
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I got the same message when using fastboot in the WHITE bootloader screen... you need to be in the BLACK download screen and then the fastboot recovery works fine.
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cables2590 said:
So if I wanted to update the firmwares is as easy as replacing cid with 11111111 and can I update parts of the firmwares... I don't want to lose my at&t LTE
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You won't lose your LTE, you will just lose their pre-installed apps and bootup-logos. Everything will work fine. SuperCID (11111111) to flash developer RUU is what you get with S-OFF, that plus custom pre-boot logo, and ability to return to true-stock without it saying "modified" or "re-locked".
Do you think anyone will ever make a free one down the road, or should I just pay the $25 now?

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[q] m8 european developer edition, stock, unlocked and tampered with s-on

Plz help. I have htc one m8 developer edition its s_on, unlocked, tampered. I want to know will i ever receive ota updates? Because I'm still on 4.4.2.
w69 said:
Plz help. I have htc one m8 developer edition its s_on, unlocked, tampered. I want to know will i ever receive ota updates? Because I'm still on 4.4.2.
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If it is a true developer edition, you might try backing up, running one of the Developer Edition RUU's to get back to 100% stock, and then see if you can get the OTA update. If this was a conversion, make sure the CID/MID are correct (which requires S-off).
w69 said:
Plz help. I have htc one m8 developer edition its s_on, unlocked, tampered. I want to know will i ever receive ota updates? Because I'm still on 4.4.2.
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If its truly the Dev Edition, on the stock ROM and stock recovery, you should get OTA.
insert coin
redpoint73 said:
If its truly the Dev Edition, on the stock ROM and stock recovery, you should get OTA.
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bro i doubt its stock because it is also showin insert coin. are insert coin roms stock or custom??
w69 said:
Plz help. I have htc one m8 developer edition its s_on, unlocked, tampered. I want to know will i ever receive ota updates? Because I'm still on 4.4.2.
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lock the bootloader and flash then newest RUU
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/development/ruu-m8-developer-edition-sense-1-54-t2884777
Then simply unlock the bootloader
flash TWRP recovery and SuperSU and a kernel if you need system r/w
w69 said:
bro i doubt its stock because it is also showin insert coin. are insert coin roms stock or custom??
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Then why did you state in the thread title and OP "stock"?
InsertCoin is a custom ROM and not stock. So you need to return to a stock ROM to install OTA.
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clsA said:
lock the bootloader and flash then newest RUU
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/development/ruu-m8-developer-edition-sense-1-54-t2884777
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1540 is US Dev Edition, and the OP has Euro DE. The RUU likely will not run with incorrect CID, MID. And not sure this is the stock baseline he would want to be on.
Htc one m8 CID: 002, european, stock demo rom (receiving ota)
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Then why did you state in the thread title and OP "stock"?
InsertCoin is a custom ROM and not stock. So you need to return to a stock ROM to install OTA.
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1540 is US Dev Edition, and the OP has Euro DE. The RUU likely will not run with incorrect CID, MID. And not sure this is the stock baseline he would want to be on.
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ok i changed the custom insert coin rom to this demo rom unfortunately. yet my device is S-on, unlocked boot loader, its cid is 002, european model. the problem is i cant flash any other rom on this demo version rom. i only need a 100% stock rom (sense) to receive ota updates in future. plz reply asap cant use my phone the demo app comes again and again.
w69 said:
ok i changed the custom insert coin rom to this demo rom unfortunately. yet my device is S-on, unlocked boot loader, its cid is 002, european model. the problem is i cant flash any other rom on this demo version rom. i only need a 100% stock rom (sense) to receive ota updates in future. plz reply asap cant use my phone the demo app comes again and again.
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Whats a Demo Rom ?
do you have TWRP installed ?
Install this >> http://www.androidrevolution.org/downloader/download.php?file=One_M8_2.22.401.4_odexed.zip
That will get the phone working and Sunshine should get you s-off
clsA said:
Whats a Demo Rom ?
do you have TWRP installed ?
Install this >> http://www.androidrevolution.org/downloader/download.php?file=One_M8_2.22.401.4_odexed.zip
That will get the phone working and Sunshine should get you s-off
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yes i have twrp-2.8.1.0 installed. demo roms are those roms like in shops they have demo phones with playing demo videos again again in it. this rom is only supporting 2G. i used this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2735235 and copied the odexted zip to twrp. it runs successfully but after that phone is in same old condition. is it true that the odexted rom is not installing because im S_ON??
and tell me if i S_OFF will i get ota updates with the odexted rom? sunshine needs 25$. well havnt tried firewater on this demo rom. and bro the link u sent is not working.
w69 said:
is it true that the odexted rom is not installing because im S_ON??
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Don't know where you obtained that info, but its false. S-off is not needed to install any ROMs.
If the phone is a demo unit, you should have stated that right away in your top post. On a previous HTC device (One X) I believe the demo unit was very difficult, if not impossible to make fully functioning. But no idea if the same is true for the M8 demo unit you have.
redpoint73 said:
Don't know where you obtained that info, but its false. S-off is not needed to install any ROMs.
If the phone is a demo unit, you should have stated that right away in your top post. On a previous HTC device (One X) I believe the demo unit was very difficult, if not impossible to make fully functioning. But no idea if the same is true for the M8 demo unit you have.
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i have no ideo what was it. i got it from ebay. it had a custom rom 4.4.2 insert coin.i was not receiving fota thats y i thought to shift to full stock. on a facebook page of htc one M8 someone sent me a link to flash it and said its full stock rom. i flashed it with twrp but i came out demo. now im stuck. someone told if me i flash a custom rom again it will be fixed even if its S-ON. kindly tell me a good updated custom rom which doesnot require S-OFF.
w69 said:
on a facebook page of htc one M8 someone sent me a link to flash it and said its full stock rom.
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Sounds like you just got some random advice, with an unknown link and flashed it. Why on earth would you do such a thing? Stick to XDA, at least here you can go by reputation (number of thanks, Recongnized Contibutor, or Recognized Dev titles).
w69 said:
someone told if me i flash a custom rom again it will be fixed even if its S-ON. kindly tell me a good updated custom rom which doesnot require S-OFF.
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As I just said in my last response, you do not need S-off to flash any ROMs. If you want help, you need to start actually paying attention to the help that is being given to you. You are also making it very hard to help you, by not giving enough info, and just leaking it out little by little.
You say you can't flash any other ROMs, but that isn't enough information. What happens when you try to flash? Does it fail with an error message? Or flash successful, but doesn't boot? What other ROMs have you tried?
If you want to return to stock to receive OTAs, you will need to find and flash the appropriate nandroid and stock recovery for our CID. Stock backup collection can be found sticky at the top of the General section. There are also various guides on how to return to stock, if you need them just search.
redpoint73 said:
Sounds like you just got some random advice, with an unknown link and flashed it. Why on earth would you do such a thing? Stick to XDA, at least here you can go by reputation (number of thanks, Recongnized Contibutor, or Recognized Dev titles).
As I just said in my last response, you do not need S-off to flash any ROMs. If you want help, you need to start actually paying attention to the help that is being given to you. You are also making it very hard to help you, by not giving enough info, and just leaking it out little by little.
You say you can't flash any other ROMs, but that isn't enough information. What happens when you try to flash? Does it fail with an error message? Or flash successful, but doesn't boot? What other ROMs have you tried?
If you want to return to stock to receive OTAs, you will need to find and flash the appropriate nandroid and stock recovery for our CID. Stock backup collection can be found sticky at the top of the General section. There are also various guides on how to return to stock, if you need them just search.
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Thanx a lot for your help and concern. now i have installed android revolution rom. i think its good. will see for L rom in future. but the problem was that i found exact rom and rocovery for my device which is 401 wwe european having cid 002 latest HBoot . flashed it and flashing was successful but when i reboot the device its still the same. means the flash didnt work. yes u are right i was leaking out info a little. it was because i knew my device a little and i didnt know what is the current status of my device. now after reasearch of few days my mind is clear. thanx for your help and interest again. this page is a blessing for beginners like me.
w69 said:
Thanx a lot for your help and concern. now i have installed android revolution rom. i think its good. will see for L rom in future. but the problem was that i found exact rom and rocovery for my device which is 401 wwe european having cid 002 latest HBoot . flashed it and flashing was successful but when i reboot the device its still the same. means the flash didnt work. yes u are right i was leaking out info a little. it was because i knew my device a little and i didnt know what is the current status of my device. now after reasearch of few days my mind is clear. thanx for your help and interest again. this page is a blessing for beginners like me.
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I glad you got it working .. sorry about the dead link, i wish Mike would leave the old version on his site longer

Big problem about S-off

Hello
I have bootloader unlocked, rooted HTC one M8. I want to use android revolution hd and to do that I need to flash a new firmware. I need to do "s-off". However I tried I failed that with "runrummer". I get this fail : (I dont wanna pay 25$ for sunshine)
Pouring (1) ......................
Pouring (2)
WTF: what are you doing.
Press Enter to exit.
I want to do s-off so badly and I can give more info. about the phone.
Thanks a lot
Runrunner doesn't work with the M8. Sunshine is the only working method
EddyOS said:
Runrunner doesn't work with the M8. Sunshine is the only working method
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So you say There is no other way execpt sunshine ?
tugratolunay said:
So you say There is no other way execpt sunshine ?
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Yep man. I use s-on for its ok all good
leos0000 said:
Yep man. I use s-on for its ok all good
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That's nice, but you need to be S-Off to do certain things, like manually flashing firmware without reverting to stock, or using firmware meant for carriers other than yours when they update before your carrier.
There are other advantages as well, but these are the ones that S-Off is most used for.
tugratolunay said:
So you say there is no other way except Sunshine ?
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That's exactly what I'm saying
tugratolunay said:
WTF: what are you doing.
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"WTF what are you doing" indeed. Rumrunner never worked for this phone. It was for the M7. Firewater (related, but different from rumrunner) was for earlier M8 versions. It was an online service, and will no longer work now that the dev has stopped supporting it (so don't even bother asking).
For many variants, s-off is not needed to update firmware (as long as Lollipop has been released for your variant). You can just return to stock ROM and stock recovery, and OTA to Lollipop in order to update your firmware.
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"WTF what are you doing" indeed. Rumrunner never worked for this phone. It was for the M7. Firewater (related, but different from rumrunner) was for earlier M8 versions. It was an online service, and will no longer work now that the dev has stopped supporting it (so don't even bother asking).
For many variants, s-off is not needed to update firmware (as long as Lollipop has been released for your variant). You can just return to stock ROM and stock recovery, and OTA to Lollipop in order to update your firmware.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2694994
I have used this rom (Stock ROM's (Android 4.4.4 + HTC Sense 6.0 | Latest: 3.28.401.9) and I still cant use wifi or I cant restart the phone it stucks at HTC logo. Could you please help me about finding correct stock rom ? or is there only 1 stock rom I really dont know what to do so far or how do I return back..
tugratolunay said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2694994
I have used this rom (Stock ROM's (Android 4.4.4 + HTC Sense 6.0 | Latest: 3.28.401.9) and I still cant use wifi or I cant restart the phone it stucks at HTC logo. Could you please help me about finding correct stock rom ? or is there only 1 stock rom I really dont know what to do so far or how do I return back..
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There are different stock ROMs for different CIDs. Plus, if you have no WiFi, and extreme long boot times, its due to your firmware not being supported by the ROM. You need to find the stock ROM for your current firmware and CID. Then you also need to flash the corresponding stock recovery. After that, you can OTA to the latest firmware.
What is your CID, hboot number, and radio number?
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There are different stock ROMs for different CIDs. Plus, if you have no WiFi, and extreme long boot times, its due to your firmware not being supported by the ROM. You need to find the stock ROM for your current firmware and CID. Then you also need to flash the corresponding stock recovery. After that, you can OTA to the latest firmware.
What is your CID, hboot number, and radio number?
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HBoot 3.16.0.0000
Radio-1.16.21331931.LA11G
Cid : CWS_001
by the way I bought this phone when I was in USA and I bought it from AT&T I dont know if it makes difference. I have a custom rom (4.4.2) its the only rom that I can use the phone and this rom is sux :'(
tugratolunay said:
HBoot 3.16.0.0000
Radio-1.16.21331931.LA11G
Cid : CWS_001
by the way I bought this phone when I was in USA and I bought it from AT&T I dont know if it makes difference.
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Not only is that make a difference, it makes it easy to update your firmware. Just relock the bootloader and run the new Lollipop RUU: http://dl3.htc.com/application/RUU_M8[email protected]50319A_40.45.C33065.00_F_release_426617_signed_2.exe
Backup any important personal data before RUU, as RUU will wipe the phone.
redpoint73 said:
Not only is that make a difference, it makes it easy to update your firmware. Just relock the bootloader and run the new Lollipop RUU: http://dl3.htc.com/application/RUU_M8[email protected]50319A_40.45.C33065.00_F_release_426617_signed_2.exe
Backup any important personal data before RUU, as RUU will wipe the phone.
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Would you mind I want you to explain the process how to do it or can you please give me link to follow the process?
tugratolunay said:
Would you mind I want you to explain the process how to do it or can you please give me link to follow the process?
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1) To lock bootloader: Connect phone to PC (PC required for RUU). Boot phone into bootloader-fastboot mode. Open command prompt on computer, and type command: fastboot oem lock
2) Download RUU onto PC. With phone connected, run the RUU exectuble program on the PC and follow the instructions given.
3) Done, drink beer
A little more detail is given here under "Manual system update instructions": http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-one-m8-att/news/
But seriously, the RUU is a self-explanatory program. It will tell you to confirm a couple dialogue boxes. But aside from that, the program will install a completely clean factory Lollipop software image.
Option Step) Unlock the bootloader again via HTCDev.com, then flash TWRP if you want to root or flash a custom ROM.
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1) To lock bootloader: Connect phone to PC (PC required for RUU). Boot phone into bootloader-fastboot mode. Open command prompt on computer, and type command: fastboot oem lock
2) Download RUU onto PC. With phone connected, run the RUU exectuble program on the PC and follow the instructions given.
3) Done, drink beer
A little more detail is given here under "Manual system update instructions": http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-one-m8-att/news/
But seriously, the RUU is a self-explanatory program. It will tell you to confirm a couple dialogue boxes. But aside from that, the program will install a completely clean factory Lollipop software image.
Option Step) Unlock the bootloader again via HTCDev.com, then flash TWRP if you want to root or flash a custom ROM.
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Cant I use the same unlock_code.bin ? and Will the at&t app be back? and will my SD card will be safe? Should I be in fastboot while doing RUU? or just homescreen?
Sorry for bothering you too much :/
***Tampered***
***relocked***
***security Warning**
M8_ul_ca
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I cant open my phone, it always comes at this screen (bootloader). Is that normal?
tugratolunay said:
Cant I use the same unlock_code.bin ?
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You can try it. It certainly doesn't hurts, as it only takes a single fastboot command, and would be faster than going through the whole HTCDev.com process (although that really doesn't take that much time, either).
I know using the same token has worked on past HTC devices. But I haven't seen much (if any) success on the M8. Most (or all?) folks have had to get a new token in order to unlock.
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Will the at&t app be back?
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Yes, whatever AT&T apps are present on the stock Lollipop AT&T image will be on your phone. Simply root and delete/freeze, or install a custom ROM to be rid of the AT&T bloat.
tugratolunay said:
will my SD card will be safe?
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You mean the removable SD? It should be safe. But you can always take it out before RUU to be sure it doesn't get touched by RUU.
Any other data on the phone (including the "virtual SD" AKA internal storage) should be backed up, if you want to keep it. Internal storage "might" be okay, but I'd back up anything you want to keep, just in case.
tugratolunay said:
Should I be in fastboot while doing RUU? or just homescreen?
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Usually booted into OS works. But some folks have had to put the phone in fastboot mode.
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tugratolunay said:
Sorry for bothering you too much :/
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Its no bother. I enjoy helping others.
I only ask in return you click the "Thanks" button for any posts you found helpful.
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***Tampered***
***relocked***
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M8_ul_ca
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I cant open my phone, it always comes at this screen (bootloader). Is that normal?
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Yes, that is normal. Its expected that RUU will be run once you relock, so it makes the phone this way.
I always forget this, since I s-off my devices (no relocking necessary to RUU with s-off)
redpoint73 said:
I always forget this, since I s-off my devices (no relocking necessary to RUU with s-off)
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After installing this RUU I will have original At&t rom and unroot, relocked bootloader phone. and it will be 5.0.1 lollipop. Am I right? and so firmware will be upgraded tho? That means I can Unlock it, root it and install that android revolution HD rom without having problems.
tugratolunay said:
After installing this RUU I will have original At&t rom and unroot, relocked bootloader phone. and it will be 5.0.1 lollipop. Am I right? and so firmware will be upgraded tho? That means I can Unlock it, root it and install that android revolution HD rom without having problems.
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Yes, yes, and yes.
The only thing above that isn't completely correct, if that after you unlock the bootloader again, just install custom recovery and flash ARHD. No need to root before flashing a custom ROM. Installing a ROM wipes whatever you did with root anyway, and custom ROMs are always pre-rooted. So rooting manually is an unnecessary step. You only need to root "manually" if you are keeping the stock ROM.

Dev edition update to 5.1

When will the Dev edition get updated to 5.1? I thought the dev edition gets updated faster than the carrier editions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61670999&postcount=879
SWEEET!
SO after updating the Dev Edtion, i can be on the latest ARHD and Maximus ROMS with no issues with reboots and stuff?
Quadrider10 said:
When will the Dev edition get updated to 5.1? I thought the dev edition gets updated faster than the carrier editions.
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New update now in the process. Almost 800mb. Software 2.6.651.11
I'm downloading the new OTA update now on my Dev. Edition 2.6.651.11
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scoot0073 said:
I'm downloading the new OTA update now on my Dev. Edition 2.6.651.11
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Do you have to unroot to allow OTA´s on DevEd? Thanks in advance.
It's not up on the HTC website....
Quadrider10 said:
It's not up on the HTC website....
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No the RUU is not up yet
Just flash the 1.32 RUU and check for updates. It worked fine today
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I did same, flashed the most recent RUU and did the OTA.
Is there any reason to not accept this update? I haven't modified mine yet, but I want to root and go to CM later on.
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Is there any reason to not accept this update? I haven't modified mine yet, but I want to root and go to CM later on.
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I would S-off before updating just to be sure you have it
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rickylambert said:
Do you have to unroot to allow OTA´s on DevEd? Thanks in advance.
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Yea you need to flash to stock to update via OTA
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Slusho said:
Is there any reason to not accept this update? I haven't modified mine yet, but I want to root and go to CM later on.
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i would say yes update ur phone, camera improvement is kinda big tho in low light its still crappy. overall its getting better
I'm not noticing camera improvements but I am noticing a big increase in performance. However, here's a fun bug: I keep waking up to it charging to only 78% or so. When I unplug and plug it back in, it starts charging higher. I've never seen a bug like this before, and it could make this unusable for me.
Also, I thought s-off just unlocked the bootloader, which is the whole point of the Dev Edition. So shouldn't that be unnecessary?
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I'm not noticing camera improvements but I am noticing a big increase in performance. However, here's a fun bug: I keep waking up to it charging to only 78% or so. When I unplug and plug it back in, it starts charging higher. I've never seen a bug like this before, and it could make this unusable for me.
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What charger are you using? I found that with an older charger that worked fine on my M8, I had weird charging issues since upgrading to 1.40 firmware. Updating to 2.7, and now 2.8, firmware fixed these for the most part, but still don't get a good full charge on that old charger. On the charger that came with the M9 seems to work just fine.
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Also, I thought s-off just unlocked the bootloader, which is the whole point of the Dev Edition. So shouldn't that be unnecessary?
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Those are two separate things...unlocked bootloader lets you flash custom recovery (TWRP) and therefore root and install custom ROMs, provided they work with your device's current firmware.
S-Off lets you flash new firmware as soon as it's released rather than wait for your specific carrier to release an OTA. S-Off also lets you change your device's CID and MID, so you can convert your device to developer edition, international, etc. Also with S-Off you can do other things like change your software status in bootloader back to "Official" after it gets changed to "Modified".
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What charger are you using?
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I'm using the iClever charger from here: http://amazon.com/gp/product/B00J94OAG8
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S-Off lets you flash new firmware as soon as it's released rather than wait for your specific carrier to release an OTA. S-Off also lets you change your device's CID and MID, so you can convert your device to developer edition, international, etc. Also with S-Off you can do other things like change your software status in bootloader back to "Official" after it gets changed to "Modified".
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It sounds like there's no reason to get S-Off on the Dev Edition then, since I'm not going to want to flash a a carrier-specific firmware, and I don't need to change the status since HTC isn't going to deny warranty service because of modified software.
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I'm using the iClever charger from here: http://amazon.com/gp/product/B00J94OAG8
It sounds like there's no reason to get S-Off on the Dev Edition then, since I'm not going to want to flash a a carrier-specific firmware, and I don't need to change the status since HTC isn't going to deny warranty service because of modified software.
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When I had the issue changing to the stock charger worked for me.
With S-Off you could have flashed the leaked 2.7 firmware a couple of weeks before the official 2.8 was released. You can also change your device status in bootloader back to "Official" from "Modified".
Other than that, if you're capable of returning your device to stock system image so that you can get OTA updates, there's not much of an advantage.
Other advantages of S-Off include the ability to return the device to 100% stock and the ability to use this method (http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/sim-unlock-method-t3143333) to sim unlock.
So what's easier: getting S-Off or returning to the stock system image?
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So what's easier: getting S-Off or returning to the stock system image?
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I've never returned to to stock using the system image. I always just run an RUU because i don't keep much data on my internal storage.
S-Off is pretty simple. Just root, download the sunshine apk and run it. after a few reboots, you're good to go.
So, having said that, I would tend to think they're about the same degree of difficulty.

Just got an M9 today and need some tips...

Hello everyone, I I just got an M9 at my local Telus store and I would like to be able to do everything with it like I am able to do with my M7, so I know I will need to use sunshine to get S-OFF and I would also like to be able to change everything from the rom to the kernel to the OS, everything, so I was just wondering if someone could let me know the best order to go about doing things, meaning should I do sunshine first then worry about flashing a recovery and all that, or should I do the recovery first so that I can backup the phones current state? The phone currently says this in the hboot screen:
*** LOCKED ***
LK-1.0.0.0000
OS-1.32.661.6
and this is what it says on the phones Setting-About-Software screen:
Android version
5.0.2
HTC Sense version
7.0
Like I mentioned before, it would probably be best if I can make a backup of the phones current state just in case there are any issues, so to do that I know I need a recovery, but do I need to do the HTC Dev unlocker before I can do so? or do I have to flash a recovery first before everything else?
Now, before anyone gets upset with me for asking these questions because they have most likely been asked 1000 times before, I am not asking to be spoon feed all the details step by step, I am just asking to be pointed in the right direction and asking for you guy's opinions on the best way to go about doing things so that I do them right the first time... So if anyone could please take a minute to help me out and get me pointed in the right direction then it would be greatly appreciated... thank you very much...
apaquette420 said:
So if anyone could please take a minute to help me out and get me pointed in the right direction then it would be greatly appreciated... thank you very much...
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First thing you should do is unlock your bootloader. After that you can install twrp and flash supersu (most can be found here) Once you are rooted run sunshine. After that the sky is the limit. You will be free to flash anything and everything. I know because I've done it. If you want to convert to a developers edition there is a post here. Personally I do not use my stock recovery or system image backups to download ota's. I prefer to run an RUU and do fresh installs. Reason why is because I am constantly changing firmware and roms. A lot of roms are based on the WWE firmware.
let me know if you have any more questions
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First thing you should do is unlock your bootloader. After that you can install twrp and flash supersu (most can be found here) Once you are rooted run sunshine. After that the sky is the limit. You will be free to flash anything and everything. I know because I've done it. If you want to convert to a developers edition there is a post here. Personally I do not use my stock recovery or system image backups to download ota's. I prefer to run an RUU and do fresh installs. Reason why is because I am constantly changing firmware and roms. A lot of roms are based on the WWE firmware.
let me know if you have any more questions
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Thank you very much for the tips.. Do I use the HTC Dev website to unlock the bootloader? I seen a link in the dev thread that said Unlock bootloader without HTCDev(root required), but I bet that the HTCDev way is probably the best best. which did you use? I'm not at home right now so I will begin when I get home later on tonight and if I need anything else I will post back, plus I post back to say how everything goes.. Thanks again for help, it is very much appreciated...
apaquette420 said:
Thank you very much for the tips.. Do I use the HTC Dev website to unlock the bootloader? I seen a link in the dev thread that said Unlock bootloader without HTCDev(root required), but I bet that the HTCDev way is probably the best best. which did you use? I'm not at home right now so I will begin when I get home later on tonight and if I need anything else I will post back, plus I post back to say how everything goes.. Thanks again for help, it is very much appreciated...
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I've used htcdev for all 2 out o 3 of my m9's. third one is a developer edition so it wasn't needed.
just note download mode is fastboot mode on the m9. htcdev says to boot to fastboot mode and if you do not know than you can waste hours trying to figure it out.
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I've used htcdev for all 2 out o 3 of my m9's. third one is a developer edition so it wasn't needed.
just note download mode is fastboot mode on the m9. htcdev says to boot to fastboot mode and if you do not know than you can waste hours trying to figure it out.
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lol I so would have gotten caught up on that lol thanks again man!!! will post back later on...
cool..let me know if you get stuck anywhere
Ok so I got the bootloader unlocked and TWRP installed, right now I am taking a backup of the phones current state just in case. Now I just need to flash the SuperSU beta from the link you provided and then run sunshine, after that I would like to flash the latest OS for my phone, but I am not sure which version to use, I think this one is correct http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/development/firmware-red-t3097678 but I am not 100% sure, do you know if this is the correct latest version for my phone?
Also should I supercid my phone before updating the firmware by entering "fastboot oem writecid 11111111" while in download mode? because my cid is TELUS001 and I do not see that cid listed in the androidinfo.txt file that is in the firmware zip...
Thanks again for all your help...
**UPDATE** I now have S-OFF, I can't believe how smooth the whole process is now with sunshine compared to almost all of my other HTC phones, hats off to those guys for sure... Thank you very much for getting me this far!!! I appreciate it very much...
apaquette420 said:
Ok so I got the bootloader unlocked and TWRP installed, right now I am taking a backup of the phones current state just in case. Now I just need to flash the SuperSU beta from the link you provided and then run sunshine, after that I would like to flash the latest OS for my phone, but I am not sure which version to use, I think this one is correct http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/development/firmware-red-t3097678 but I am not 100% sure, do you know if this is the correct latest version for my phone?
Also should I supercid my phone before updating the firmware by entering "fastboot oem writecid 11111111" while in download mode? because my cid is TELUS001 and I do not see that cid listed in the androidinfo.txt file that is in the firmware zip...
Thanks again for all your help...
**UPDATE** I now have S-OFF, I can't believe how smooth the whole process is now with sunshine compared to almost all of my other HTC phones, hats off to those guys for sure... Thank you very much for getting me this far!!! I appreciate it very much...
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I was actually just going to tell you to type
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fastboot getvar all
while in download mode and to copy and paste that into a file a text file somewhere so you always have it. then you can supercid. I actually have never seen any firmware for your carrier. what is your mid? this is where I get all of my firmware from. I learned how to remove the red text using hex editor and I also throw in a custom splash screen before I flash.
Here is a link for your stock firmware. not sure what the most up to date is but most custom roms are using the WWE firmware anyways.
p.s. either quote me or tag me if you need a faster response. I'm not getting notifications otherwise.
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I was actually just going to tell you to type
Code:
fastboot getvar all
while in download mode and to copy and paste that into a file a text file somewhere so you always have it. then you can supercid. I actually have never seen any firmware for your carrier. what is your mid? this is where I get all of my firmware from. I learned how to remove the red text using hex editor and I also throw in a custom splash screen before I flash.
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My mid is 0PJA11000 but the one that is listed in the androidinfo.txt file of the firmware that I linked earlier is 0PJA10000, does this mean I cant use it? in all I plan to flash ViperOneM9 3.5.0 for the rom and it says it requires 2.10 but my phone is currently at 1.32
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My mid is 0PJA11000 but the one that is listed in the androidinfo.txt file of the firmware that I linked earlier is 0PJA10000, does this mean I cant use it?
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I honestly don't know if the hardware is any different but it looks like your mid is the same as the dev ed. check this one out. @clsA is very knowledgeable on the m9. I learned a lot of what I know from his posts.
Personally I have gotten so relaxed that I just change my mid and cid to whatever it is I want to flash and just go for it. But I also understand that I'm risking a brick by doing so..lol
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I honestly don't know if the hardware is any different but it looks like your mid is the same as the dev ed. check this one out. @clsA is very knowledgeable on the m9. I learned a lot of what I know from his posts.
Personally I have gotten so relaxed that I just change my mid and cid to whatever it is I want to flash and just go for it. But I also understand that I'm risking a brick by doing so..lol
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took a look at the thread and it looks like all I need to do to flash 2.10 which is the international version is type fastboot oem writemid 0PJA10000 while in downloader mode because like you said and which I also confirmed in the other thread that my phone is the same as the dev ed and I should be able to switch back and forth with the same command
apaquette420 said:
took a look at the thread and it looks like all I need to do to flash 2.10 which is the international version is type fastboot oem writemid 0PJA10000 while in downloader mode because like you said and which I also confirmed in the other thread that my phone is the same as the dev ed and I should be able to switch back and forth with the same command
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If going to dev ed I have had better luck running an RUU and accepting ota's as far as the radio goes. my reception went from 2 bars to full bars doing it that way verses just flashing the newest firmware. But it is a very long and tedious process and since you just got your m9 I'm sure you want to use it already..
What rom are you thinking about flashing?
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If going to dev ed I have had better luck running an RUU and accepting ota's as far as the radio goes. my reception went from 2 bars to full bars doing it that way verses just flashing the newest firmware. But it is a very long and tedious process and since you just got your m9 I'm sure you want to use it already..
What rom are you thinking about flashing?
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I am hoping to flash ViperOneM9 3.5.0, it was the only rom I ran on my M7 and I loved it, so I'm really hoping to have it on this phone too... I just asked in the roms thread to see if anyone else there is on my same network to see how they got it working... and to be honest I don't mind waiting in order to get things done the right way the first time, know what I mean...
apaquette420 said:
I am hoping to flash ViperOneM9 3.5.0, it was the only rom I ran on my M7 and I loved it, so I'm really hoping to have it on this phone too... I just asked in the roms thread to see if anyone else there is on my same network to see how they got it working... and to be honest I don't mind waiting in order to get things done the right way the first time, know what I mean...
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Viper is one of my favorites. Was using it for months. They are good about replying too... A little too good because you get spoiled. Then when you post on other roms and nobody ever replies you realize how good those guys are..haha
check out the second line on this thread to reclaim 3 gb of data after using sunshine. I've been s-off for months and just saw this today.
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Viper is one of my favorites. Was using it for months. They are good about replying too... A little too good because you get spoiled. Then when you post on other roms and nobody ever replies you realize how good those guys are..haha
check out the second line on this thread to reclaim 3 gb of data after using sunshine. I've been s-off for months and just saw this today.
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do you know where I can find the latest international RUU? what rom are you running now?
@bigp951
Ok so I got the firmware updated to the latest international version 2.10 and was able to flash the ViperOne Rom and I love it just like I did for my M7... Everything is working great, except I have the problem that you mentioned would happen, I only show 1 bar for my signal strength, could you please let me know exactly what you had to do to fix it? Also, I would just like to say thank you once more, you helped me out a great deal and you made my upgrade to the M9 an absolute cake walk, so thank you very much for everything and for explaining the proper steps to take, I appreciate it very much...

HTC 10 Bell

Hi guys, I got the HTC 10 bell variant at a good price and since is my back up phone I'm trying to put it to the test to change it from bell variant to the US variant, I was reading a lot of threads but im confused, , I unlocked the bootloader, I instaled the twrp, now how do i change the CID ??mine shows 666, and I want to change it to 617 , do I have to have S-OFF?? or I can do that with S-ON since the Bootloader is unlocked , will I get the OTA updates for the 617 after i change it?? (btw i dont want to chage it to 401 international because im afraid i will loose the band 4 LTE )
I'm with bell and changed to us unlocked. There might be a way to do it without s-off like maybe super cid. But to install ruu.exe you need s-off. You will get ota but to apply all you need is to reinstall stock recovery.
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You can't change your CID and flash the Unlocked version without S-OFF.
Thanks guys for your replays ,btw nitramus can u pls add a step by step how I did it??I'm new with the HTC
Since you're at the cid part just look for the thread for changing cid and flash ruu. And look at the thread with all the backups for all the versions or stock rom. You will have all you need, latest available rom with ota. To prevent any problems as soon as your phone is ready to use after ruu and you logged in to you account apply ota right away, then flash supersu and have fun.
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But first do I have to take s-off??I mean to change from s-on to s-off
nutzuTo said:
But first do I have to take s-off??I mean to change from s-on to s-off
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Yes to convert your phone to U.S Unlocked you'd have to S-off to be able to change your CID. You gotta pony up the 25 USD, which is worth it in my opinion if you're gonna use the 10 as your main phone and tinker with it for a year or two.
Basically follow the steps from this guide, and when it comes to flashing an RUU use the Unlocked one you can download directly from HTC.com
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-how-to-drand-convert-htc-10-to-t3374593
BTW it's very fitting that Bell's CID is 666
Tarima said:
Yes to convert your phone to U.S Unlocked you'd have to S-off to be able to change your CID. You gotta pony up the 25 USD, which is worth it in my opinion if you're gonna use the 10 as your main phone and tinker with it for a year or two.
Basically follow the steps from this guide, and when it comes to flashing an RUU use the Unlocked one you can download directly from HTC.com
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-how-to-drand-convert-htc-10-to-t3374593
BTW it's very fitting that Bell's CID is 666
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OK did that so I have S-off, I changed the CID on the cmd , and than I flashed with RUU_PERFUME_WL_M60_SENSE80GP_NA_Gen_Unlock_1.53.617.5 than update to the latest ones that they pop up to update, nice Thank you ,btw if i want to change S-on will impact the updates or should i keep it S-off??
Personally I don't bother to change back but if security is important for you then maybe. Later depending if you want to change things again depending on what you do you might still need s-off.
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OK did that so I have S-off, I changed the CID on the cmd , and than I flashed with RUU_PERFUME_WL_M60_SENSE80GP_NA_Gen_Unlock_1.53.617.5 than update to the latest ones that they pop up to update, nice Thank you ,btw if i want to change S-on will impact the updates or should i keep it S-off??
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If you are rooted and/or have a custom recovery, you can't use the official OTAs. You'll need the stock and never rooted ROM (it has to have an unmodified system partition), and also the stock recovery to flash it.
The easiest (and often quicker way than waiting for an official OTA) is to just flash a firmware.zip package in either fastboot or by the rename/SD card method.
I recommend the ones on this thread. You can find both Full Stock .zips there, that will wipe your phone (because they contain the boot.img), and No-Wipe .zips that won't wipe your phone (obviously) as they have the boot.img (kernel and ramdisk) removed, and also contain the latest TWRP recovery versions instead of the stock recovery.
nutzuTo said:
OK did that so I have S-off, I changed the CID on the cmd , and than I flashed with RUU_PERFUME_WL_M60_SENSE80GP_NA_Gen_Unlock_1.53.617.5 than update to the latest ones that they pop up to update, nice Thank you ,btw if i want to change S-on will impact the updates or should i keep it S-off??
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To add regarding future OTA updates, if you want them directly from HTC you'll also have to remove SuperCID, if you have it. Just having a stock/unmodified system and recovery isn't enough.
And I agree, just keep S-off unless you're making a warranty claim.
Tarima said:
To add regarding future OTA updates, if you want them directly from HTC you'll also have to remove SuperCID, if you have it. Just having a stock/unmodified system and recovery isn't enough.
And I agree, just keep S-off unless you're making a warranty claim.
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I was hoping someone might have the official stock firmware including recovery, from bell? I have to send my phone in for warranty repair. I have my stock system backed up and am on firmware 121.666... I have s-off and boot loader locked status. I have super cid 11111111. Any help will be reciprocated. Thank you for any help.
Salem's galaxy said:
I was hoping someone might have the official stock firmware including recovery, from bell? I have to send my phone in for warranty repair. I have my stock system backed up and am on firmware 121.666... I have s-off and boot loader locked status. I have super cid 11111111. Any help will be reciprocated. Thank you for any help.
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Hey, did you get this figured out?
I have a stock backup in my recovery, might work. Might not lol..
Was thinking of going US since Bell still has not pushed an update out..

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