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[Q]Galaxy S 2 Stylus

what is the best stylus that is available for accurate writing and sketching?
-Is the Samsung Note stylus works with the galaxy S2?
Thank you.

The Note's pen will not work as it is not as stylus, it's a digitizer pen that uses a special system in the screen.
To be honest, and I have more experience with capacitive styli than probably 99.9% of people on here, the S2 is too small to really give you good accuracy with any stylus that is designed for normal capacitive screens. A stylus is even pretty useless for notes and sketching on my 7-inch Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus, and even on my iPad I rely heavily on apps that get around the inherent inaccuracy of capacitive styli with apps that have great zoom or magnification options. Navigating menus etc as an extension of your finger is one thing, but sketching and note taking is something completely different.
If you do decide to get one, stay far far away from those generic brands you find on eBay etc, and far away even from styli from Belkin, Griffin etc that you normally find in electronics stores. The more expensive styli ($20-30 range US) are in a whole other class when it comes to both accuracy and durability. I would suggest a stylus that doesn't look huge next to the S2, which eliminates some of the bigger ones out there that are big to emulate permanent markers. Both the Architect Stylus and Wacom Stylus are great and small. I have both, and they're a bit more sanely sized next to the S2 than e.g. the Cosmonaut, AluPen, Maglus etc. You might however want to look at the Jot stylus first. For accuracy on a small screen, it's probably your best bet, though the disc type tip is not to everyone's taste

Thank you very much you I think i will go with the JOT PRO.

you guys really want to see this.
i know the screen of galaxy is too small when comparing to tab,but that guy is really amazing [video is a part of avdt of stylus]

Yep, it is of course possible to do on such a small screen, but you end up zooming and panning a lot. The Galaxy Note is a whole other beast with that pen it comes with, will be interesting to see what pops up on YouTube in terms of drawings made on it

question about the stylus used in the above video
Cptnodegard said:
Yep, it is of course possible to do on such a small screen, but you end up zooming and panning a lot. The Galaxy Note is a whole other beast with that pen it comes with, will be interesting to see what pops up on YouTube in terms of drawings made on it
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Hello thank you inadvance for awnsering,
I ask you this question because i im curious if you know wich pen was used in the above video. and if its possible the use that pen with WACOM's drwaing tablets.
als i am currently looking to buy a second hand wacom tablet. Can you pleasse tell me what to look out for when making a secondhand purchase. (maybe the pen is broke of skratches on the screen ect.

verbaltech said:
Hello thank you inadvance for awnsering,
I ask you this question because i im curious if you know wich pen was used in the above video. and if its possible the use that pen with WACOM's drwaing tablets.
als i am currently looking to buy a second hand wacom tablet. Can you pleasse tell me what to look out for when making a secondhand purchase. (maybe the pen is broke of skratches on the screen ect.
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That's a Just Mobile AluPen. Won't work with drawing tablets, completely different technology

Had DAGi Stylus P101 model lying around and tried it since it's winter... have to say it works just fine swiping, scrolling and everything else on my SGS2.

does the galaxy note stylus work with the s2?

Ixdankd said:
does the galaxy note stylus work with the s2?
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OP asked the same question....

Ixdankd said:
does the galaxy note stylus work with the s2?
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Why don't you try it and see if it works... just go to nearby store and have a blast And where would you get a Note stylus anyways...

Fevves said:
And where would you get a Note stylus anyways...
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Not that they would work, but they are sold separately. Replacements for Notes, obviously

I ordered a cheap $1 Stylus off ebay some time ago, still waiting for it to arrive. While it may not be as accurate as the higher class ones, I don't really need it that bad to begin with (I've come to accept that taking notes on my SGS2 isn't a viable option).

C-pen samsung

I just tried the samsung pen and it is not as good as expected. Its not crisp and quick. Writing with my finger is better. So the pen goes back to the maker.
It may have to do with the screen protector but I doubt it.
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vasp3690 said:
It may have to do with the screen protector but I doubt it.
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Removing my screen protector helped a bit but I'm still not impressed either.

How did you expect it to work? It's not smart like the s-pen on the note. All it is meant to do is replace a finger.
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Lennyuk said:
How did you expect it to work? It's not smart like the s-pen on the note. All it is meant to do is replace a finger.
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True. I didn't expect it to be better than s-note, but I didn't also expect to be worse than my finger!!
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vasp3690 said:
True. I didn't expect it to be better than s-note, but I didn't also expect to be worse than my finger!!
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My thoughts exactly!

I'm using one of those cheap stylus pens often bundled with cases and I found that it's better than my finger. Don't see the need for a c - pen know I know it's not an improvement
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Alex Charles said:
I'm using one of those cheap stylus pens often bundled with cases and I found that it's better than my finger. Don't see the need for a c - pen know I know it's not an improvement
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do you remember which one was that?
i thought id find the c-pen and memo usefull if i could write in a similar fashion as when taking notes on a paper. (well as close as it can get)

This is just Samsung cashing in on the popularity of S-Pen and charging 40 times the price of some capacitive pens with no better results.

You could tell by all of the pictures that the CPen is a gimmick. I was very disappointed when they didn't replicate the Note's SPen.
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You could tell by all of the pictures that the CPen is a gimmick. I was very disappointed when they didn't replicate the Note's SPen.
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Well, it is has a 3mm tip according to the specs. This is much smaller than a capacitive stylus.

I don't understand why they would change what already works. Does it have a button like the Note stylus?
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No. No buttons on it
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C pen a big failure
The C-pen is a complete failure, its really bad, i expected it to be better than galaxy note as there is a lotta hype created for samsung galaxy s3. I was completely taken aback with its sad precision and smoothness.The way Samsung is going i thought they must have definitely improved the feel of thw cpen but it was not. this is a set back.

CreekDirt said:
I don't understand why they would change what already works. Does it have a button like the Note stylus?
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The Note is marketed to a specific segment, completely different from the Galaxy S line of phones. The Note uses a Wacom digitizer for the stylus that is much more precise, whereas the S3 uses a traditional capacitive pen because it isn't marketed to have the same kind of stylus functionality as the Note (and the Wacom digitizer does add a certain amount cost) - otherwise they'd include the stylus with the S3 the same way it's included with the Note.
Actually, the C-Pen is more than a regular capacitive stylus since it apparently doesn't work with other capacitive screens for some reason, but the principle is still the same. It's like wondering why your cell phone is missing the nice 10 inch screen from a tablet.

creon100 said:
The Note is marketed to a specific segment, completely different from the Galaxy S line of phones. The Note uses a Wacom digitizer for the stylus that is much more precise, whereas the S3 uses a traditional capacitive pen because it isn't marketed to have the same kind of stylus functionality as the Note (and the Wacom digitizer does add a certain amount cost) - otherwise they'd include the stylus with the S3 the same way it's included with the Note.
Actually, the C-Pen is more than a regular capacitive stylus since it apparently doesn't work with other capacitive screens for some reason, but the principle is still the same. It's like wondering why your cell phone is missing the nice 10 inch screen from a tablet.
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It is a step backwards. Sure the Note was a niche market, but they didn't skimp on the stylus for it. SMemo and SNote can't be the same with the CPen. IMO they should've stuck with the design even if it is an optional accessory. It adds more functionality.
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I just don't like the implication through omission of details Samsung are making that this is like the S Pen, I mean I just think they want to trick people to believing this can do the same job as S Pen because obviously it's got a similar name and they making no effort to explain it.

CreekDirt said:
It is a step backwards. Sure the Note was a niche market, but they didn't skimp on the stylus for it. SMemo and SNote can't be the same with the CPen. IMO they should've stuck with the design even if it is an optional accessory. It adds more functionality.
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Adding the Wacom digitizer adds cost to the phone, so the phone would have cost more with it included. It makes sense to not include it when this is marketed to those wanting a regular phone, whereas those that are looking for specific stylus functionality can go to the Note.

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Adding the Wacom digitizer adds cost to the phone, so the phone would have cost more with it included. It makes sense to not include it when this is marketed to those wanting a regular phone, whereas those that are looking for specific stylus functionality can go to the Note.
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I understand why they didn't offer the pen with the phone and why the Note would have one. Why they didn't make an SPen that is compatible is what I am wondering. Cost isn't an issue when sold as an accessory.
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CreekDirt said:
I understand why they didn't offer the pen with the phone and why the Note would have one. Why they didn't make an SPen that is compatible is what I am wondering. Cost isn't an issue when sold as an accessory.
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I can see why they'd sell it as an accessory but I would hope it actually worked properly. Once the word is out that its crap, noone will get it.
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I tried this C-pen as well and it's a PoS.
Ironically, I've just taken delivery of a charging stand that comes with a free pen (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0080R6MW0/ref=oh_details_o03_s01_i00) and that one works better than the C-pen. (And it's an ink pen too!)
Couldn't make it up.

Pen?

I was wondering if could use a preassure pen on the N7.2 and would any preasure sensitive pen work the same or do they differ?

bogii4 said:
I was wondering if could use a pressure pen on the N7.2 and would any preasure sensitive pen work the same or do they differ?
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Not quite sure what you mean by a "pressure pen", but the Nexus 7 screen is capacitance, not pressure. If you touch it with a hard, non-conductive object, nothing will happen. The stylus type pens work because they can conduct your fingers to the surface of the tablet (simplified explanation, don't flame me!). You can also try to operate the tablet with gloves on to see that the "contact" of your fingers is necessary to get the touchscreen to operate.

What I meant was for drawing a stulis like from a note 8?
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No, the S-Pen is unique and a Samsung only accessory. Too bad, it looks useful but I rather stick with Nexus.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6893/samsung-galaxy-note-80-review/4

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What I meant was for drawing a stulis like from a note 8?
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The N7 doesn't have the hardware to support pens like the note 8 does. You won't get any of the pressure sensitivity that they/wacom pens get.
The only pens you can use with the N7 are going to be the capacitive touch pens, which just emulate your finger.

squeakyl said:
The N7 doesn't have the hardware to support pens like the note 8 does. You won't get any of the pressure sensitivity that they/wacom pens get.
The only pens you can use with the N7 are going to be the capacitive touch pens, which just emulate your finger.
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Sadly this is true. The pressure sensitivity on the Note is impressive for what it is. One day they'll have something out for other tablets, but for now, stick to changing the stroke width.

sen-cha said:
Sadly this is true. The pressure sensitivity on the Note is impressive for what it is. One day they'll have something out for other tablets, but for now, stick to changing the stroke width.
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Got this today and um.. when i use Photoshop if i set to a big brush size and pressure a little it,it comes small dot/line by preassuring more it becomes bigger

i hve no idea

bogii4 said:
Got this today and um.. when i use Photoshop if i set to a big brush size and pressure a little it,it comes small dot/line by preassuring more it becomes bigger
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You can sort of guess the amount of pressure being applied by a finger based on the size of the touch (if you lightly touch it's small, if you press hard it's bigger as your finger squashes against the screen). So it is, sort of, touch sensitive, but if you used a stylus with a non-soft end it won't detect an increase in pressure.

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Got this today and um.. when i use Photoshop if i set to a big brush size and pressure a little it,it comes small dot/line by pressuring more it becomes bigger
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Pressure sensitivity works beautifully in Photoshop Touch with a Wacom stylus (or S-Pen) on my Note 10.1.
Conversely, finger (or capacitive stylus) pressure in PS Touch on my N7 makes no difference. Not even a little bit. As already posted by others, the N7 just doesn't have the technology to do what you're asking.

Yeah, The N7 (and most other Android devices) don't have the hardware necessary for pressure sensitivity. If that's important to you, look in the direction of the Galaxy Note line of devices, or anything that advertises Wacom digitizer support. They exist, but are far and few between. This is one in particular that comes to mind, albeit with a hefty $1500-1600 price tag.
On a somewhat related note, the Adonit Jot Pro stylus works beautifully on the N7 (among any other capacitive touchscreen), so while it may not be pressure sensitive, it's pretty good for rough sketches or handwriting. If you're looking for a fine point stylus, look no further. One thing to mention though, is the sensitivity wears off after a couple weeks. Remove the plastic tip and put on very tiny bit of conductive thermal paste (think Arctic Silver 5) on the tip, then replace the plastic tip again. It's smooth sailing from there.

Its been almost a month I have with my N7(2013) and its working really very fine...in the beginning it had some issues in GPS...I also thought to use of a S-pen with it but not sure about the touch screen compatibility..if someone has tried to use something like then please do update with the reviews....

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Its been almost a month I have with my N7(2013) and its working really very fine...in the beginning it had some issues in GPS...I also thought to use of a S-pen with it but not sure about the touch screen compatibility..if someone has tried to use something like then please do update with the reviews....
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Have you read the rest of the thread? No, the S-Pen will not work. It's not just about the pen. Devices that use digitizer pens have an extra layer on the screen that allows the pens to do their magic. That layer is simply non-existent on the nexus 7.

This is why the note 8 costs more....

I've got a Wacom bamboo pocket and have to say that using my fingers works much better. Are all stylus ' like that or are there better ones?
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I have a few different rubber tipped stylists and they do not work half as good as the micro fiber mesh tipped ones do.

Where can I get those?
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Bloodflame said:
Yeah, The N7 (and most other Android devices) don't have the hardware necessary for pressure sensitivity. If that's important to you, look in the direction of the Galaxy Note line of devices, or anything that advertises Wacom digitizer support. They exist, but are far and few between. This is one in particular that comes to mind, albeit with a hefty $1500-1600 price tag.
On a somewhat related note, the Adonit Jot Pro stylus works beautifully on the N7 (among any other capacitive touchscreen), so while it may not be pressure sensitive, it's pretty good for rough sketches or handwriting. If you're looking for a fine point stylus, look no further. One thing to mention though, is the sensitivity wears off after a couple weeks. Remove the plastic tip and put on very tiny bit of conductive thermal paste (think Arctic Silver 5) on the tip, then replace the plastic tip again. It's smooth sailing from there.
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It's not necessarily the android device that needs the hardware - in Wacom tablets (as in bamboo, intuos etc., not Android tablets) the pressure sensitivity comes from the pen itself, not the tablet surface. While there's nothing on the market at the moment (?) that doesn't mean there never can be for the likes of the N7, where the pen would have the pressure sensitive hardware and then the tablet would just require the necessary hardware.

Adonit now sells the Jot Script Fine Point stylus. However, this only works with iPhone for now and kinda expensive.
I sold my Note 8.0 because I am getting the N7 LTE (if I can find one in Best Buy!) and planning to get this. Best of both world: pure Android AND stylus that is accurate.

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Adonit now sells the Jot Script Fine Point stylus. However, this only works with iPhone for now and kinda expensive.
I sold my Note 8.0 because I am getting the N7 LTE (if I can find one in Best Buy!) and planning to get this. Best of both world: pure Android AND stylus that is accurate.
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These look great, but the lack of Android support right out of the gate really has me sour on Evernote. I just don't think there is any excuse for releasing something like this as ios only. Unless they are purposely trying to alienate Android users. Not that I'm saying that's what they are doing, but it was a pretty stupid business decision regardless.
I am hoping it will eventually be usable on Android, but I haven't seen a single mention of future Android support.
Boo to you, Evernote.

Q about styluses: "pi"

There's a thread here for our device that is discussing full sized styluses. I got to looking around in online stores, and one thing keeps showing up in tech specs of all styluses I find: "pi." 5.5pi, 6.5pi, 6pi, 8pi, etc.
What does pi mean and how does it relate to our tablet?
If you buy a stylus for this tablet, must it be a certain pi, greater than or equal to a certain pi, etc? Or will all pi work, but with varying accuracy or something?
I have searched for my answer already, but cant get any results, so sorry if this is a stupid question.
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spexwood said:
There's a thread here for our device that is discussing full sized styluses. I got to looking around in online stores, and one thing keeps showing up in tech specs of all styluses I find: "pi." 5.5pi, 6.5pi, 6pi, 8pi, etc.
What does pi mean and how does it relate to our tablet?
If you buy a stylus for this tablet, must it be a certain pi, greater than or equal to a certain pi, etc? Or will all pi work, but with varying accuracy or something?
I have searched for my answer already, but cant get any results, so sorry if this is a stupid question.
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pi is measuring unit for the TIP of the stylus pen, a lower number is better accuracy, more details but the screen(digitizer) must support it . The newest Galaxy 5 is 2.5pi and the Note 10.1 is 6.5pi. Hope the info help.

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pi is measuring unit for the TIP of the stylus pen, a lower number is better accuracy, more details but the screen(digitizer) must support it . The newest Galaxy 5 is 2.5pi and the Note 10.1 is 6.5pi. Hope the info help.
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Did you mean our Note 10.1 or the older version?
(I REALLY wish that Samsung had called the 2014ed something different. It's so different in dimensions and hardware from the older 10.1, and it makes shopping for it hard! I can only imagine being a seller of accessories too. ... anyway....)
If the 2014 10.1 is 6.5pi, then I am guessing that getting, let's say, a 2.5pi S-Pen wouldn't work? But getting an 8.5pi probably would?
I guess I'm just a tiny bit confused still. If one were to buy a different S-Pen stylus for the 2014 ed Note 10.1, what pi range(s) should be considered? ex: 6-8.5pi.

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Did you mean our Note 10.1 or the older version?
(I REALLY wish that Samsung had called the 2014ed something different. It's so different in dimensions and hardware from the older 10.1, and it makes shopping for it hard! I can only imagine being a seller of accessories too. ... anyway....)
If the 2014 10.1 is 6.5pi, then I am guessing that getting, let's say, a 2.5pi S-Pen wouldn't work? But getting an 8.5pi probably would?
I guess I'm just a tiny bit confused still. If one were to buy a different S-Pen stylus for the 2014 ed Note 10.1, what pi range(s) should be considered? ex: 6-8.5pi.
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either 6.5 or 8 or whatever would work, but it's kind of what do you need it for? for fine writing and architect drawing you need a small pi, with 8pi It would be hard to connect a 2 thin lines, it's like a different when you try to write with a crayon or a pencil. with a huge tip usually for older device where you use the pen for tab on small icon or swipe the screen, not design for drawing or writing, but it stills work. My best recommendation is get the one that design specific for your device, remember, the tip is one thing but you also need pressure sensitive which you only could find best with the Galaxy Note series. If you buy a same pi pen from another third party and not design for the Note, you still could write and draw but you can't control the pressure sensitive aspect. Heck, you could write with your finger too if you want, but will not as thin and pretty as use a S pen!

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either 6.5 or 8 or whatever would work, but it's kind of what do you need it for? for fine writing and architect drawing you need a small pi, with 8pi It would be hard to connect a 2 thin lines, it's like a different when you try to write with a crayon or a pencil. with a huge tip usually for older device where you use the pen for tab on small icon or swipe the screen, not design for drawing or writing, but it stills work. My best recommendation is get the one that design specific for your device, remember, the tip is one thing but you also need pressure sensitive which you only could find best with the Galaxy Note series. If you buy a same pi pen from another third party and not design for the Note, you still could write and draw but you can't control the pressure sensitive aspect. Heck, you could write with your finger too if you want, but will not as thin and pretty as use a S pen!
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Thanks!
Yeah, I was looking at doing drawings, so I guess 6.5pi would be what was needed since it's the same as the stock S-Pen. I'm not actually going to buy anything right now, but was mostly just curious because there are full-sized styluses on the market for tablets like the (I think) the Surface, and supposedly, they would work for the Note too.

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Thanks!
Yeah, I was looking at doing drawings, so I guess 6.5pi would be what was needed since it's the same as the stock S-Pen. I'm not actually going to buy anything right now, but was mostly just curious because there are full-sized styluses on the market for tablets like the (I think) the Surface, and supposedly, they would work for the Note too.
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For writing or drawing, you could buy one with the eraser(just like a pencil, one end with tip and the other end with eraser), kind of cool and convenience. It will save you time.

What Wacom Pens/Styluses (if any) work on the Tab S4?

So I wanted to get another pressure sensitive stylus for my Tab S4 when I read somewhere that (on top of being based on Wacom technology) that some Wacom pens can work on Samsung tablets.
I tried a lot of googling, reading spec sheets, and so on when I ran across this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837743.
I'm not sure how accurate still is and, if it is still accurate, I'd like some clarification on which Wacom pens are being referred to specifically.
Basically, I'd like to know:
---Are there any Wacom pens that work on the Tab S4?
------If yes, what are they?
------If yes, does it provide similar pressure/tilt and navigation functionality as an S Pen? (Or everything an S Pen does outside of the special air wizard)
Thank you for your time
~bw

blue-wanderer said:
So I wanted to get another pressure sensitive stylus for my Tab S4 when I read somewhere that (on top of being based on Wacom technology) that some Wacom pens can work on Samsung tablets.
I tried a lot of googling, reading spec sheets, and so on when I ran across this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837743.
I'm not sure how accurate still is and, if it is still accurate, I'd like some clarification on which Wacom pens are being referred to specifically.
Basically, I'd like to know:
---Are there any Wacom pens that work on the Tab S4?
------If yes, what are they?
------If yes, does it provide similar pressure/tilt and navigation functionality as an S Pen? (Or everything an S Pen does outside of the special air wizard)
Thank you for your time
~bw
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There's the Staedtler pen https://www.amazon.com/Staedtler-Di...e=UTF8&qid=1535000235&sr=8-2&keywords=emr+pen (30 usd)
samsung https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-EJ-P...e=UTF8&qid=1535000235&sr=8-4&keywords=emr+pen
hp https://www.amazon.com/HP-Smart-Buy...=UTF8&qid=1535000235&sr=8-11&keywords=emr+pen (eraser should work)
toshiba https://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-PA33...F8&qid=1535000292&sr=8-7&keywords=toshiba+pen (eraser works)
https://www.amazon.com/Zodiac-Digit..._rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=7CDQ7RCJN5FTBFEAQBMQ
there's a few.

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There's the Staedtler pen (30 usd)
samsung
hp (eraser should work)
toshiba (eraser works)
Thinkpad one
there's a few.
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Hey dcoke, I wanted to just thank you for all of your suggestions.
After a lot of research I ended up sticking with a Samsung stylus (for pressure sensitivity & other related reasons) but I appreciated your answer all the same and just wanted thank you .

My CS 3002 Wacoms work like a charm. Precision, Pressure and Tilt are perfect

does the tab s4 have all the features of the note9 digitizer and apps?

yourmumsbootloader said:
does the tab s4 have all the features of the note9 digitizer and apps?
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I assume so. Outside of the bluetooth multimedia control S-Pen.
As for the other guy, Wacom Digitizers determine tilt and sensitivity support, not the stylus itself. Since I tried the old Samsung stylus that I bought for my Note Pro 12.2 and it had tilt support in it, though it came out well before Samsung started implementing support for it. That's when I learned it was the digitizer under the screen determining those characteristics.

Has anyone tried the Bamboo Tip? I really like the construction on Bamboo pens but am not sure if this works on the S4.