So I wanted to get another pressure sensitive stylus for my Tab S4 when I read somewhere that (on top of being based on Wacom technology) that some Wacom pens can work on Samsung tablets.
I tried a lot of googling, reading spec sheets, and so on when I ran across this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837743.
I'm not sure how accurate still is and, if it is still accurate, I'd like some clarification on which Wacom pens are being referred to specifically.
Basically, I'd like to know:
---Are there any Wacom pens that work on the Tab S4?
------If yes, what are they?
------If yes, does it provide similar pressure/tilt and navigation functionality as an S Pen? (Or everything an S Pen does outside of the special air wizard)
Thank you for your time
~bw
blue-wanderer said:
So I wanted to get another pressure sensitive stylus for my Tab S4 when I read somewhere that (on top of being based on Wacom technology) that some Wacom pens can work on Samsung tablets.
I tried a lot of googling, reading spec sheets, and so on when I ran across this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837743.
I'm not sure how accurate still is and, if it is still accurate, I'd like some clarification on which Wacom pens are being referred to specifically.
Basically, I'd like to know:
---Are there any Wacom pens that work on the Tab S4?
------If yes, what are they?
------If yes, does it provide similar pressure/tilt and navigation functionality as an S Pen? (Or everything an S Pen does outside of the special air wizard)
Thank you for your time
~bw
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There's the Staedtler pen https://www.amazon.com/Staedtler-Di...e=UTF8&qid=1535000235&sr=8-2&keywords=emr+pen (30 usd)
samsung https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-EJ-P...e=UTF8&qid=1535000235&sr=8-4&keywords=emr+pen
hp https://www.amazon.com/HP-Smart-Buy...=UTF8&qid=1535000235&sr=8-11&keywords=emr+pen (eraser should work)
toshiba https://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-PA33...F8&qid=1535000292&sr=8-7&keywords=toshiba+pen (eraser works)
https://www.amazon.com/Zodiac-Digit..._rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=7CDQ7RCJN5FTBFEAQBMQ
there's a few.
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dcoke said:
There's the Staedtler pen (30 usd)
samsung
hp (eraser should work)
toshiba (eraser works)
Thinkpad one
there's a few.
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Hey dcoke, I wanted to just thank you for all of your suggestions.
After a lot of research I ended up sticking with a Samsung stylus (for pressure sensitivity & other related reasons) but I appreciated your answer all the same and just wanted thank you .
My CS 3002 Wacoms work like a charm. Precision, Pressure and Tilt are perfect
does the tab s4 have all the features of the note9 digitizer and apps?
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does the tab s4 have all the features of the note9 digitizer and apps?
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I assume so. Outside of the bluetooth multimedia control S-Pen.
As for the other guy, Wacom Digitizers determine tilt and sensitivity support, not the stylus itself. Since I tried the old Samsung stylus that I bought for my Note Pro 12.2 and it had tilt support in it, though it came out well before Samsung started implementing support for it. That's when I learned it was the digitizer under the screen determining those characteristics.
Has anyone tried the Bamboo Tip? I really like the construction on Bamboo pens but am not sure if this works on the S4.
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Is the stylus is special like the ones you get with a Tablet PC or is just a plastic tip. Hoping for the plastic tip even though the other can be programmed sometimes.
I ask because I have 2 awesome stylus that I have put away a few years ago when everything became 'touch' with your finger .. Being I am in the jewelry business I have a Tiffany stylus and also one that a jeweler made for me from an antique pen .. the tip is ivory .. Thought I would never get to use these again.
Diane
It is special
Wacom digitizer.
Thanks. I think that my HP Tablet uses a Wacom Digitizer pen and I never use my HP tablet any more .. Laptops seem so big to me since the iPad and my Galaxy Tab.
'Some' Wacom Pens will work with the Note as will 'some' Tablet PC that supports Wacom.
Best thing about using these pens is:-
1. They are much easier to hold than the Note's S-Pen (the button is difficult to locate and press).
2. A lot of Wacom Pens (especially those found on Tablet PC's) have an 'Eraser' on the opposite end. This means you don't have to go back to the menu to select the eraser, you simply turn the pen over and use it as an eraser.
Well, not all Wacom styluses work. The Wacom Bamboo ones don't work with it.
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Well, not all Wacom styluses work. The Wacom Bamboo ones don't work with it.
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I did say 'most', not all.
Beards said:
Most Wacom Pens will work with the Note as will any Tablet PC that supports Wacom.
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I can tell you that the stylus (with eraser) from my ancient pre-Intuos Wacom digitizer (ca. 1997) does NOT work.
my wacom intuos 3 pen does not work
Okay.... I've amended my post to the word 'Some'.
I'll recontact my contact at Samsung and ask them to clarify.
I have a HP Pavillion tablet notebook .. Maybe 3 years old. That pen worked on my Note ..
what is the best stylus that is available for accurate writing and sketching?
-Is the Samsung Note stylus works with the galaxy S2?
Thank you.
The Note's pen will not work as it is not as stylus, it's a digitizer pen that uses a special system in the screen.
To be honest, and I have more experience with capacitive styli than probably 99.9% of people on here, the S2 is too small to really give you good accuracy with any stylus that is designed for normal capacitive screens. A stylus is even pretty useless for notes and sketching on my 7-inch Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus, and even on my iPad I rely heavily on apps that get around the inherent inaccuracy of capacitive styli with apps that have great zoom or magnification options. Navigating menus etc as an extension of your finger is one thing, but sketching and note taking is something completely different.
If you do decide to get one, stay far far away from those generic brands you find on eBay etc, and far away even from styli from Belkin, Griffin etc that you normally find in electronics stores. The more expensive styli ($20-30 range US) are in a whole other class when it comes to both accuracy and durability. I would suggest a stylus that doesn't look huge next to the S2, which eliminates some of the bigger ones out there that are big to emulate permanent markers. Both the Architect Stylus and Wacom Stylus are great and small. I have both, and they're a bit more sanely sized next to the S2 than e.g. the Cosmonaut, AluPen, Maglus etc. You might however want to look at the Jot stylus first. For accuracy on a small screen, it's probably your best bet, though the disc type tip is not to everyone's taste
Thank you very much you I think i will go with the JOT PRO.
you guys really want to see this.
i know the screen of galaxy is too small when comparing to tab,but that guy is really amazing [video is a part of avdt of stylus]
Yep, it is of course possible to do on such a small screen, but you end up zooming and panning a lot. The Galaxy Note is a whole other beast with that pen it comes with, will be interesting to see what pops up on YouTube in terms of drawings made on it
question about the stylus used in the above video
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Yep, it is of course possible to do on such a small screen, but you end up zooming and panning a lot. The Galaxy Note is a whole other beast with that pen it comes with, will be interesting to see what pops up on YouTube in terms of drawings made on it
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Hello thank you inadvance for awnsering,
I ask you this question because i im curious if you know wich pen was used in the above video. and if its possible the use that pen with WACOM's drwaing tablets.
als i am currently looking to buy a second hand wacom tablet. Can you pleasse tell me what to look out for when making a secondhand purchase. (maybe the pen is broke of skratches on the screen ect.
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Hello thank you inadvance for awnsering,
I ask you this question because i im curious if you know wich pen was used in the above video. and if its possible the use that pen with WACOM's drwaing tablets.
als i am currently looking to buy a second hand wacom tablet. Can you pleasse tell me what to look out for when making a secondhand purchase. (maybe the pen is broke of skratches on the screen ect.
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That's a Just Mobile AluPen. Won't work with drawing tablets, completely different technology
Had DAGi Stylus P101 model lying around and tried it since it's winter... have to say it works just fine swiping, scrolling and everything else on my SGS2.
does the galaxy note stylus work with the s2?
Ixdankd said:
does the galaxy note stylus work with the s2?
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OP asked the same question....
Ixdankd said:
does the galaxy note stylus work with the s2?
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Why don't you try it and see if it works... just go to nearby store and have a blast And where would you get a Note stylus anyways...
Fevves said:
And where would you get a Note stylus anyways...
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Not that they would work, but they are sold separately. Replacements for Notes, obviously
I ordered a cheap $1 Stylus off ebay some time ago, still waiting for it to arrive. While it may not be as accurate as the higher class ones, I don't really need it that bad to begin with (I've come to accept that taking notes on my SGS2 isn't a viable option).
Hi all,
note: I understand this topic has been flogged to death and there is quite a bit of confusion spread over the net about pen compatability. Hopefully this helps.
I have not got a SGN10 yet but and looking forward to getting one as soon as my tax return cheque clears.
I thought I would share what info I have found researching wacom products.
Below is an email conversation I had directly with Wacom Australia.
Hi,
Yes you are correct in your pen knowledge.
The Intuos and Cintiq nibs will fit in the UP-818.
The Standard nib is the hardest.
The Stroke nib is made of the same material as the standard but has a spring
in the nib giving it more travel.
The flew nib has a rubber core with a plastic sleeve giving it 'flex'.
The felt nibs are the softest and wear down more quickly.
Hope that helps.
Regards
Vaughan Stott
BuyWacom Administrator
www.buywacom.com.au
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From: me
Sent: Monday, 13 August 2012 5:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Pen and nib questions.
Hi,
I am looking at purchasing a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 which uses a wacom
digitizer. It is my understanding that this is compatible with penabled
stylus' which also includes pens from the early UD series. (but not any
other series ie, cintiq or intuos* etc)
I am looking to purchase a pen designed for an IBM Lenovo Thinpad X60T
(penabled) laptop or a UP-818 from buywacom.com.au (U in the start meaning
UD compatible, therefore penabled compatible)
I feel comfortable in assuming that the above is true.
My actual question is; Are the nibs themselves from Intuos* or cintiq
compatible with the UD/penabled stylus'? I would like to compare the
different tip types. If they do fit I would be interested in purchasing a
Cintiq 1st Gen Accessory kit or similar.
From what I can determine there seems to be 4 tip types, standard, hard
felt, stroke and flex. Does this sound right? Please correct me if needed.
Can you please list the tips from hard to soft?
Thanks for your time.
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In summary;
All penabled (wacom tabletpc computers) or UD (early series wacom pens with U in the first part of the part No.) will work on the Galaxy Note.
All wacom pen nibs (the little removable tip) are interchangeble.
I hope this information is accurate. (Please let me know if I have made a mistake.) I have a IBM X60T pen on the way for when my SGN10 arrives.
A couple questions;
Has anyone tested penabled/UD pens on their SGN10?
Does the eraser part of penabled/UD pens work?
I would expect only one button of multi button devices to work. Can anyone confirm this?
Hi,
Just to update, I did ing up with a lenovo x60 pen and it does work, but badly misaligns the hover cursor as it is tilted over, which the samsung s-pen does not do. The x60 pen also seems to not register gentle strokes to start with althogh it does for the end of the lines.
The eraser end works in s-note but not in any other apps I have tried it in.
Anyways, It was worth a try, but a waste of AU$29 due to the issues
I have tried the stylus from my Note phone and also from my 2+ year old Fujitsu tablet PC and both work. One note: you have to remove the S-Pen from its holder to get another pen to work.
justauser said:
I have tried the stylus from my Note phone and also from my 2+ year old Fujitsu tablet PC and both work. One note: you have to remove the S-Pen from its holder to get another pen to work.
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This is not true. you only have to do this if you have battery saving checked under pen settings. If you dont have it checked you can use any wacom pen with the spen in its holder.
arjag said:
Has anyone tested penabled/UD pens on their SGN10?
Does the eraser part of penabled/UD pens work?
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I tried the pen of my Toshiba Portege m200 Tablet PC from 2004.
The pen works fine, same for button and "rubber" part of the pen, they are properly recognized and interpreted.
My Intuos stylus definitely doesn't work, but I tried the stylus from my Lenovo W700 and the pen works with no pressure sensitivity but the eraser works fine. Haven't tried the Intuos tips but from my initial inspection, they look exactly the same as what you get with the Note (and they have a few different options).
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My Intuos stylus definitely doesn't work, but I tried the stylus from my Lenovo W700 and the pen works with no pressure sensitivity but the eraser works fine. Haven't tried the Intuos tips but from my initial inspection, they look exactly the same as what you get with the Note (and they have a few different options).
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the intuos tips don't fit into the default 10.1 s-pen unless you cut and file them down to size. (too long and too fat)
but once you do, they work just fine!
Good to know, they looked the same to my eye but I didn't dig out my Intous nibs to test.
Just tried an old Wacom Graphire stylus I had laying around and it doesn't work, neither does the stylus from my Wacom Bamboo Create.
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Good to know, they looked the same to my eye but I didn't dig out my Intous nibs to test.
Just tried an old Wacom Graphire stylus I had laying around and it doesn't work, neither does the stylus from my Wacom Bamboo Create.
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http://www.wacom-asia.com/aptky/607/pen.htm
the top ones (marked with the light blue) should work, as well as any tablet pc pens that are penabled by wacom
bamboo won't work, intuos and cintiq both won't work either
also, only the s-pen is properly calibrated and all 3 of my other tablet pc pens have a slight offset from the tip (but other than that they work fine, side switch and eraser and all). honestly the s pen works really nicely, though all the pens have slightly different pressure curves so it just depends on personal taste.
hope that helps!
justauser said:
I have tried the stylus from my Note phone and also from my 2+ year old Fujitsu tablet PC and both work. One note: you have to remove the S-Pen from its holder to get another pen to work.
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Not correct, I use an HP pen and do not have to remove the S-Pen from the table to use it
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fishgimp said:
http://www.wacom-asia.com/aptky/607/pen.htm
the top ones (marked with the light blue) should work, as well as any tablet pc pens that are penabled by wacom
bamboo won't work, intuos and cintiq both won't work either
also, only the s-pen is properly calibrated and all 3 of my other tablet pc pens have a slight offset from the tip (but other than that they work fine, side switch and eraser and all). honestly the s pen works really nicely, though all the pens have slightly different pressure curves so it just depends on personal taste.
hope that helps!
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I do not have any offset from my HP tablet and IBM/Lenovo tablet pen - Otherwise all your statements are correct
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The eraser works like a charm on the tablet PC pen used on the Note 10.1
I have the Samsung Series Slate 7 pen and it works. Eraser also works great. The pen tips for the Note 10.1 won't fit though; they are too small.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Series-Digitizer-AA-DP0NE2B-US/dp/B006WAPM78
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Not correct, I use an HP pen and do not have to remove the S-Pen from the table to use it
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I do not have any offset from my HP tablet and IBM/Lenovo tablet pen - Otherwise all your statements are correct
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The eraser works like a charm on the tablet PC pen used on the Note 10.1
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I can confirm that my Toshiba pen is slightly offset. not a huge deal but definitely makes it a little more messy to write with than the s pen.
greenzkool said:
I can confirm that my Toshiba pen is slightly offset. not a huge deal but definitely makes it a little more messy to write with than the s pen.
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same, they are irritating but still usable. mine are a fujitsu, a motion computing and an axiotron. If the HP and Lenovo are really properly-calibrated (EXACTLY the same as the S-pen) I might hunt them down?
I believe the reason your pen doesn't work unless you remove it is due to the settings>System(Pen)>Batter saving option being enabled.
I have the HP TM2 notebook and the pen for it works on my note 10.1. The eraser works in S Note but haven't tried it in anything else yet.
Got my Samsung digitizer (slate 7) pen today. Works as I had hoped, but it feels like it's just slightly off in comparison to the s pen. Enough to notice if attempting to line up the tip with a line/grid. Given a little time I'll probably just naturally compensate and adjust. It does seem a little more responsive than the Note's s pen which is great, and it's the same size as a real pen. Now if I just could just stop accidently pressing the raised control button! Mainly wanted it for the eraser function for a more natural feel.
I used to have a Toshiba M200 Tablet PC. I couldn't find the pen, but I did still have the little "emergency" stylus. Works just as well as the one included with the Galaxy Note. I am thinking about ordering the Samsung Series 7 pen. Looks nearly identical to the M200 pen.
I have try the pen comes with HP TC1100 on my galaxy note . and it works fine and nice , and I feel it better than the original one
sorry for my english
thanks
Got the samsung slate 7 pen today...the slight offset really bothers me even if it is just a bit. I'll return and stick with the original pen until I can find a better replacement. Good luck all.
Evo 4G63 said:
I have the Samsung Series Slate 7 pen and it works. Eraser also works great. The pen tips for the Note 10.1 won't fit though; they are too small.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Series-Digitizer-AA-DP0NE2B-US/dp/B006WAPM78
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I just got this; I don't like it. It feels great but the drawing is slightly offset. Too bad, because other than that it's great.
Hello,
I was very disappointed that the Bamboo pens are not compatible, i'm using this tablet for sketching so i have to find an alternative pen.
I have searched on the internet, and Axiotron's pens are nowhere to find :crying:. On ebay, they have these Lenovo digitizer pens with an eraser
Have someone tested it on the Note 10.1, is it good ? Does the eraser work ?
Apologies if this has been asked before, but can someone reliably inform me if the S-Pen can be used on other touchscreens not officially supporting the S-Pen?
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Apologies if this has been asked before, but can someone reliably inform me if the S-Pen can be used on other touchscreens not officially supporting the S-Pen?
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The GN2 S Pen will work on Galaxy Tab devices with S Pen, but you couldn't for example, use it with a HTC or iPhone.
The S Pen is a Wacom device, so needs the handset to have a Wacom screen & drivers to work.
That's a very basic explanation, but you should get the idea.
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The GN2 S Pen will work on Galaxy Tab devices with S Pen, but you couldn't for example, use it with a HTC or iPhone.
The S Pen is a Wacom device, so needs the handset to have a Wacom screen & drivers to work.
That's a very basic explanation, but you should get the idea.
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To add to this, the technology behind the spen is largely driven by the software side of things so for it to work you need both the compatible software and hardware.
It doesn't operate the same as a capactive stylus, which is a good thing as it is how we can get such percision from the pen.
thanks guys for the quick and informative responses, understand now
I can use my s pen with my thinkpad tablet pc. And use my thinkpads stylus with the note 2
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I can use my s pen with my thinkpad tablet pc. And use my thinkpads stylus with the note 2
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In that case it must have a Wacom stylus and digitizer
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The GN2 S Pen will work on Galaxy Tab devices with S Pen, but you couldn't for example, use it with a HTC or iPhone.
The S Pen is a Wacom device, so needs the handset to have a Wacom screen & drivers to work.
That's a very basic explanation, but you should get the idea.
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Does that mean the S-Pen will work with the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 P3100??
I have tried to get a definitive answer, but nothing so far??
No because it is a potentiometer stylus. That means it converts the movement of the pen into electrical signals. That requires a power source which it doesn't have. The digitizer create a magnetic field which powers the spen.
So other phone don't have it and you can't use spen with them. You can use a conductive stylus which just stimulates your fingers
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Can the note 3 pen be used with the s7 edge? If so, what software is needed? I really miss being able to use it since my note 7 was recalled.
So will the s pen purchased separately work with the galaxy a tab 10.1 WUXGA
I just purchased note 8.0 which is really great, but one thing is starting to annoy me (a little). That's the tip of the s-pen which is flexible (it moves on the sides a milimetr or two) and also if I press it against a surface the tip is pushed a 1/2 mm inside the s-pen.
I would much more preffer a stiff tip, like my pen's, and I was wondering if it's just a faulty s-pen I got, or if it's by design and all you have the same kind of s-pen tip?
If so... is there any way I can make the tip to be still like say... a pencil tip? What would be important is to have it reversible, so gluing the tip to the case is rather out of the question.
Any help from someone who was looking for the same thing as me?
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I just purchased note 8.0 which is really great, but one thing is starting to annoy me (a little). That's the tip of the s-pen which is flexible (it moves on the sides a milimetr or two) and also if I press it against a surface the tip is pushed a 1/2 mm inside the s-pen.
I would much more preffer a stiff tip, like my pen's, and I was wondering if it's just a faulty s-pen I got, or if it's by design and all you have the same kind of s-pen tip?
If so... is there any way I can make the tip to be still like say... a pencil tip? What would be important is to have it reversible, so gluing the tip to the case is rather out of the question.
Any help from someone who was looking for the same thing as me?
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Doesn't seem that your s-pen is faulty.
The Moving tip is part of Wacom tech and is what detects taps/clicks as well as pressure.
, however a mm or 2 2 sideways is a bit too much and should not happen.
My other Wacom pen for regular pc tablet (intuos) also dips in and out a bit, so that's normal.
Thanks for responding. I appriciate taking the time.
But isn't it true that you can use other manufacturers pens with galaxy note series, and some of them have stiff tips?
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Thanks for responding. I appriciate taking the time.
But isn't it true that you can use other manufacturers pens with galaxy note series, and some of them have stiff tips?
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I don't think you can use other manufacturer pens with note 8. Even Only few of the pens by wacom are compatible.
There are wacom pens with replaceable tips, but they more or less give a different surface feel as opposed to a rigid tip itself.
Oh, I didn't know that. So the s-pen's for Galaxy Note 8.0 are different than for other note's, in terms of technology? The thing about other pens I was writing in reference to other galaxy devices that use s-pen, where people said they purchased other (bigger) stylus'es.
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Oh, I didn't know that. So the s-pen's for Galaxy Note 8.0 are different than for other note's, in terms of technology? The thing about other pens I was writing in reference to other galaxy devices that use s-pen, where people said they purchased other (bigger) stylus'es.
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as far as i am aware, up to samsung Galaxy Note 3.0 all s-pen enabled devices have same underlying technology by wacom, so it's the same manufacturer (samsung/wacom).
however some pens might work across the board on a lot of devices and some might not due to device specific calibrations.
http://www.wacom.com/en/us/overlays/articles/2013/1027-samsung-galaxy-note
I see. Thanks for additional info.