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Just about an hour ago, I have upgraded my HTC Desire to Froyo 2.2. So I have quickly done a 720p video recording, and compare to iPhone 4.
The result (data taken from QuickTime player):
Movie FPS: HTC Desire (16.37), iPhone 4 (29.54)
Data Rate: HTC Desire (7.42 mbits/sec), iPhone 4 (10.44 mbits/sec)
Yupe. I tested 720p and it is not good.
I don't have iPhone 4, so I cannot compare.
I hope the 480p of HTC Desire is getting better. I prefer 480p if I can get good fps.
Can you test 480p with your tool above?
What about this clip, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLmvRSxgtd8
Running at 30 fps
wallieballie said:
What about this clip, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLmvRSxgtd8
Running at 30 fps
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Well, it is running Froyo (r5 MoDaCo), not the stock HTC Froyo...
gogol said:
Yupe. I tested 720p and it is not good.
I don't have iPhone 4, so I cannot compare.
I hope the 480p of HTC Desire is getting better. I prefer 480p if I can get good fps.
Can you test 480p with your tool above?
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The 480p now supports H.264. It looked super smooth from what I did a quick test of.
The 480p seems much better using MPEG4 than H264, in H264 there is more tearing during fast motion and some artifacts.
What a shame. Had high hopes for HTC's 720p implementation
And the same s***e audio too...
Surely the desire has the hardware to support 720p at almost 30fps.
Who does HTC's code for christ sake!
doinbox said:
Surely the desire has the hardware to support 720p at almost 30fps.
Who does HTC's code for christ sake!
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If I record inside with low light my FPS is 12.
Filming outside through a window made it 22FPS.
I am not surprised by the low quality of the camcorder. I kinda expected that. As opposed to doinbox, I don't think the camera of the Desire is capable of 30fps in such high resolutions (especially when I know what it is capable of in lower resolutions). Well, maybe if there are sufficient lightning conditions... Don't know It's already dusk here so I can't test it outside.
kekkle said:
If I record inside with low light my FPS is 12.
Filming outside through a window made it 22FPS.
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But seriously that isnt acceptable. If, lets say, when the desire was first released it was advertised as supporting 720p video recording and you went out and bought it only to find it had poor framerates you would think it was broke. You wouldnt buy a tv that said it could support 1080p video but only at 22fps its ridiculous really. The Desire probably with alot of time and effort could record 1080p at 30fps. But it seems they don't want to spend the time in achieving this.
Which really annoys me!
martintzvetomirov said:
I am not surprised by the low quality of the camcorder. I kinda expected that. As opposed to doinbox, I don't think the camera of the Desire is capable of 30fps in such high resolutions (especially when I know what it is capable of in lower resolutions). Well, maybe if there are sufficient lightning conditions... Don't know It's already dusk here so I can't test it outside.
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The Hardware in the desire is much more powerful than what you would find in a 5 megapixel digital camera that can record 1080p video at 30fps.
http://www.chinavasion.com/product_info.php/pName/hddv-pocket-camcorder-digital-video-camera-1080p/
Check this link its a pocket HD camcorder. Im sure it has terrible hardware inside yet it can record 1080p at 30fps. So what would make you think the desire can't do it.
doinbox said:
The Hardware in the desire is much more powerful than what you would find in a 5 megapixel digital camera that can record 1080p video at 30fps.
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I just hope its true If it is then we should expect more from Gingerbread
doinbox said:
http://www.chinavasion.com/product_info.php/pName/hddv-pocket-camcorder-digital-video-camera-1080p/
Check this link its a pocket HD camcorder. Im sure it has terrible hardware inside yet it can record 1080p at 30fps. So what would make you think the desire can't do it.
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We had to wait till Android 2.2 for us to get 720p. Perhaps it's not the hardware, but the software that is the limitation.
kekkle said:
We had to wait till Android 2.2 for us to get 720p. Perhaps it's not the hardware, but the software that is the limitation.
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That's what I'm saying the hardware does support it but HTC are just not putting the hours into coding for us to get 30+fps.
could a higher class microSD Card possibly make any difference? I'm a bit disappointed myself especially when the picture quality itself is brilliant for a mobile device
I doubt that the FPS problem is CPU related. It's more likely an I/O bottleneck in the camera hardware or driver.
Couldn't it be optics quality related? It is a tiny lens after all, and if we get 22fps in sunlight but 16fps indoors, then surely that implies issues caused by the camera needing a slow shutter speed to cope with low light. I think it's fixed aperture so all it has to work with is shutter speed (and therefore fps) and sensitivity...
@NixC
That could well be the case. However, the amount by which frame rates seem to vary between ROMs and codecs suggests that there might still room for improvement beneath the limiting factor of the optics.
our version of the slow motion camera seems like junk.. i thought i read that the actual note 2 ups the fps for slowmo.. it seems that our version just slows down the og video at 30fps...
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet.. but is it even possible for our hardware to record 120 fps? if so why not have it record at that all the time to increase quality?
So with the announcement out of the way, a DXO Mark assessment complete and all the specs published I'm left wondering about video recording. The 6P recorded in 4K at 30FPS, 1080P at 30FPS and Slow Motion at 120FPS and 240FPS and without OIS it was shaky as hell. Both GSM Arena and the DXO Mark list 1080p 30/60/120FPS for the Pixels which piqued my interest.
Will we be getting 60FPS 1080p?
The image stabilisation on at the demo looked very impressive too and I believe that was at 4K but we'll have to wait and see if it's actually that good...
Hoodeddeathman said:
So with the announcement out of the way, a DXO Mark assessment complete and all the specs published I'm left wondering about video recording. The 6P recorded in 4K at 30FPS, 1080P at 30FPS and Slow Motion at 120FPS and 240FPS and without OIS it was shaky as hell. Both GSM Arena and the DXO Mark list 1080p 30/60/120FPS for the Pixels which piqued my interest.
Will we be getting 60FPS 1080p?
The image stabilisation on at the demo looked very impressive too and I believe that was at 4K but we'll have to wait and see if it's actually that good...
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I forgot where I saw the spec but I did see somewhere that it does to 60fps 1080p. I'll see if I can find it.
http://m.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_xl-8345.php a few hands on videos mentioned it as well
Boswell20 said:
I forgot where I saw the spec but I did see somewhere that it does to 60fps 1080p. I'll see if I can find it.
http://m.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_xl-8345.php a few hands on videos mentioned it as well
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At long last, if this is available and the stabilisation is as good as they demo'd it'll be a great camcorder.
DXO said there was still Jello effect associated with EIS with videos. I guess we'll have to wait and see what it's truly like.
Hoodeddeathman said:
So with the announcement out of the way, a DXO Mark assessment complete and all the specs published I'm left wondering about video recording. The 6P recorded in 4K at 30FPS, 1080P at 30FPS and Slow Motion at 120FPS and 240FPS and without OIS it was shaky as hell. Both GSM Arena and the DXO Mark list 1080p 30/60/120FPS for the Pixels which piqued my interest.
Will we be getting 60FPS 1080p?
The image stabilisation on at the demo looked very impressive too and I believe that was at 4K but we'll have to wait and see if it's actually that good...
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Boswell20 said:
I forgot where I saw the spec but I did see somewhere that it does to 60fps 1080p. I'll see if I can find it.
http://m.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_xl-8345.php a few hands on videos mentioned it as well
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B3501 said:
DXO said there was still Jello effect associated with EIS with videos. I guess we'll have to wait and see what it's truly like.
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tigercranestyle said:
meh. they go on to say it's very common among smartphones and nothing serious to affect its score.
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According to this video, there is no [email protected] option:
https://youtu.be/jg-7HwllfFc?t=5m42s
Anyway, I'm really suspicious about this new kind of EIS, because no matter what, EIS is really far away to give similar results than OIS.
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Galaxo60 said:
According to this video, there is no [email protected] option:
?t=5m42s
Anyway, I'm really suspicious about this new kind of EIS, because no matter what, EIS is really far away to give similar results than OIS.
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It does have 60fps. It must be in the settings that you choose the frame rate. In that video provided, it's just the choice of what quality you want, not the fps.
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.red...fps_video_recording/?client=ms-android-google
This is another confirmation. We still have hope! :victory:
early released video, for what its worth.
https://youtu.be/oLByqWyq5Js
Boswell20 said:
It does have 60fps. It must be in the settings that you choose the frame rate. In that video provided, it's just the choice of what quality you want, not the fps.
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.red...fps_video_recording/?client=ms-android-google
This is another confirmation. We still have hope! :victory:
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The only thing why I didn't buy the 6P, because it was pretty stupid they didn't add this when even mid-range phone have them. On the other hand, I would love to see manual controls on the camera, because every flagship should have them and people who likes photography greatly appreciate this.
uicnren said:
early released video, for what its worth.
https://youtu.be/oLByqWyq5Js
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" I will say the Image stabilization needs some work"
Looks good indeed, because stabilization usually doesn't work on 4K, but still we can't guarantee that the video was edited or manipulated in any way; we should wait for real reviews and camera tests, because I think is the only good thing this phone has.
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Galaxo60 said:
The only thing why I didn't buy the 6P, because it was pretty stupid they didn't add this when even mid-range phone have them. On the other hand, I would love to see manual controls on the camera, because every flagship should have them and people who likes photography greatly appreciate this.
" I will say the Image stabilization needs some work"
Looks good indeed, because stabilization usually doesn't work on 4K, but still we can't guarantee that the video was edited or manipulated in any way; we should wait for real reviews and camera tests, because I think is the only good thing this phone has.
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Phone Arena seem to think that it's one of the first with EIS at 4K, I hope so!
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Goog...apable-of-recording-4K-video-with-EIS_id86368
Can someone test this out? Snapdragon can record 4k 60 in pro mode with a set ISO and any shutter above 1/60 but if you drop the shutter below 60 it will go to 30fps. That makes sense and is reasonable. However on my Exynos S9 I cant get it to record 4k 60 at all if I have a set ISO and shutter speed. I can have any shutter speed and no matter what it records 30fps. In auto mode it records 4k 60 fine. Anyone else seeing this?
I talked to Samsung international and they confirmed the exynos S9 and S9+ cannot do 4k 60 in pro mode. They say its a limitation of the CPU. Well thats great. Exynos is supposed to be super great right? I dont know how much I believe them so if anyone else with an exynos wants to test and confirm this limitation please let me know.
Just saw a video posted by "pocketnow" on LG G7 camera review. At 4:57 mark, he said there were new addition(960 fps slow mo, 4k 60fps) from OTA updates since his original phone review 2 months ago. Is it true cuz i cant find it on web.
Video link- Hmm, seems i need 10 posts. Better PM me if u cant find on YT, or just search on YT and you'll have it.
Saw the video and yeah I can confirm that the phone can shoot 4k at 60 fps with the new OTA update but I just tried recording a slow motion video and it's just at 240 fps and I can't seem to find the 960 fps option.
You mean the video of Jaime Rivera? He doesn't know what he is talking about, the g7 doesn't have 960fps at 720p, just tested and it's 240fps.
I don't even have the 4k 60fps option.
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kiszidomi said:
I don't even have the 4k 60fps option.
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That's because your phone is not on the last Ota update
The reason that the phone can't shoot in 960fps is because there's no dedicated chip for it. For example Samsung uses dedicated fast storage chip to store the footage of the video and then transfer it to the main storage. LG doesn't have that chip plus the sensor only officially supports 240fps 720p but I noticed that it also supports 1080p 240fps .
Why we don't have that option is a mystery.
LameMonster82 said:
The reason that the phone can't shoot in 960fps is because there's no dedicated chip for it. For example Samsung uses dedicated fast storage chip to store the footage of the video and then transfer it to the main storage. LG doesn't have that chip plus the sensor only officially supports 240fps 720p but I noticed that it also supports 1080p 240fps .
Why we don't have that option is a mystery.
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Damn, so not even a software update can turn it on? That's sad.
Anyone else think that [email protected] is disappointing.. Lots of jello and inaccurate focusing. [email protected] send a more consistent option, tried to upload to you tube with 60 and it looked awful!
bootruss said:
Anyone else think that [email protected] is disappointing.. Lots of jello and inaccurate focusing. [email protected] send a more consistent option, tried to upload to you tube with 60 and it looked awful!
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Personally I prefer 4k 60fps. From what I recorded it seems stable and I have no problems with it.
Edit: here's a link of what the camera module is capable of: https://www.google.bg/url?sa=t&sour...FjAAegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw3vRFp9OMzb9J76fPbULXws