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Hi,
I have unlock ny bootloader and repleace my recovery with cwm and rooted.
Qn 1, Am I still able to update from OTA to JB?
Qn2, if I can OTA update, will I lost my root and need to reflash my recovery and re root?
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Flashben said:
Hi,
I have unlock ny bootloader and repleace my recovery with cwm and rooted.
Qn 1, Am I still able to update from OTA to JB?
Qn2, if I can OTA update, will I lost my root and need to reflash my recovery and re root?
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No you cannot OTA update to JB.
You'll have to wait for the RUU to be released and then flashed that.
Hope this helps.
must return original stock rom and recovery and locked bootloader command name
fastboot oem lock
I then ota work
jacho6380 said:
must return original stock rom and recovery and locked bootloader command name
fastboot oem lock
I then ota work
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I am in stock rom. So can't ota else it will fail at recovery right?
To sum up, I need to refresh stock recovery, then relock my bootloader, then can OTA?
Can I still use the same token from HTC to unlock bootloader after I OTG?
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Yes, with stock recovery and relock u should be able to get the OTA if it´s available for your CID.
And Yes, afaik, u can / have to use the same Unlock_code.bin.
LG, Helmut
hd2neuling said:
Yes, with stock recovery and relock u should be able to get the OTA if it´s available for your CID.
And Yes, afaik, u can / have to use the same Unlock_code.bin.
LG, Helmut
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May I know where can I get the stock recovery?
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Flashben said:
May I know where can I get the stock recovery?
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1. adb reboot bootloader
2. fastboot oem relock
3. flash latest RUU, than OTA update to 2.17 (at least I had to do since there wasn't any 2.17 RUU for my CID).
4. Wait for the JB OTA
Flashben said:
May I know where can I get the stock recovery?
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Hey, I've attached the stock recovery.
I have just finished a "downgrade myself" from ARHD 9.x back to H3G stock, removed CWM by writing the attached recovery in fastboot ("fastboot flash recovery endeavoru_recovery_signed.img") and took the latest OTA via settings.
Funnily enough, I didn't have to re-lock bootloader or remove superSU prior to the OTA. My suspicion is, I will have to re-write superSU. Other than that, my bootloader remains unlocked.
Just the waiting game now for Three to release the JB OTA!
Edit: I used this guide to re-flash stock recovery, it has links to download too Link
lukems said:
Hey, I've attached the stock recovery.
I have just finished a "downgrade myself" from ARHD 9.x back to H3G stock, removed CWM by writing the attached recovery in fastboot ("fastboot flash recovery endeavoru_recovery_signed.img") and took the latest OTA via settings.
Funnily enough, I didn't have to re-lock bootloader or remove superSU prior to the OTA. My suspicion is, I will have to re-write superSU. Other than that, my bootloader remains unlocked.
Just the waiting game now for Three to release the JB OTA!
Edit: I used this guide to re-flash stock recovery, it has links to download too Link
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Not funny, it doesn't required to be 'lock' for OTA. HTCDev unlock statement actually mentioned about it, you just need to read.
Are you sure the recovery is the same for different CIDs' ROM.. else you cannot supply your recovery to OP like this..
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OP, you just need to flash stock recovery to properly install OTA packages. You will lost root too after OTA.. Most probably corrected by update-script..
However, OTA may fail if you do this kinds of thing to your stock ROM :-
1. Removed system apps, while the OTA has a newer version of it ready to update.
2. Install mods which replaced system files, lead to invalid checksums.
3. Somthing else conflicted with update-script...
In short, you just rooted to backup, or installed some apps which required root access, you are fine with OTA..
You can get the stock recovery from your RUU (especialy for your device), just run the RUU till the files get unpacked in the tmp folder (somewhere in C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\Temp\{guid}\{guid} Tip: order by date on Temp folder) and I think you can find the recovery image in the rom.zip.
HebeGuess said:
Not funny, it doesn't required to be 'lock' for OTA. HTCDev unlock statement actually mentioned about it, you just need to read.
Are you sure the recovery is the same for different CIDs' ROM.. else you cannot supply your recovery to OP like this..
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OP, you just need to flash stock recovery to properly install OTA packages. You will lost root too after OTA.. Most probably corrected by update-script..
However, OTA may fail if you do this kinds of thing to your stock ROM :-
1. Removed system apps, while the OTA has a newer version of it ready to update.
2. Install mods which replaced system files, lead to invalid checksums.
3. Somthing else conflicted with update-script...
In short, you just rooted to backup, or installed some apps which required root access, you are fine with OTA..
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Most other threads including this one, suggest that people should relock boot loader. I was merely informing OP that I didn't do that, and it still worked, but thanks for the confirmation.
With reference to the recovery, I passed a link to the guide I got my recovery from and IIRC it isn't CID specific.
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HebeGuess said:
Not funny, it doesn't required to be 'lock' for OTA. HTCDev unlock statement actually mentioned about it, you just need to read.
Are you sure the recovery is the same for different CIDs' ROM.. else you cannot supply your recovery to OP like this..
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OP, you just need to flash stock recovery to properly install OTA packages. You will lost root too after OTA.. Most probably corrected by update-script..
However, OTA may fail if you do this kinds of thing to your stock ROM :-
1. Removed system apps, while the OTA has a newer version of it ready to update.
2. Install mods which replaced system files, lead to invalid checksums.
3. Somthing else conflicted with update-script...
In short, you just rooted to backup, or installed some apps which required root access, you are fine with OTA..
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I have OTG rootkeeper installed so hope it will help keep my root after ota (it works on my Asus TF300TG when OTA to JB). What worries me it the recovery... I have flashed CWM recovery and base on others exp, the OTA May stuck at the recovery because it's not the stock recovery.
I will try to flash back the stock recovery and wait for ota and hope it works
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Flashben said:
I have OTG rootkeeper installed so hope it will help keep my root after ota (it works on my Asus TF300TG when OTA to JB). What worries me it the recovery... I have flashed CWM recovery and base on others exp, the OTA May stuck at the recovery because it's not the stock recovery.
I will try to flash back the stock recovery and wait for ota and hope it works
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Yeah that is right.
I had CWM and it would fail when flashing.
Reflashing stock recovery worked fine, OTA went smoothly.
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Thanks to all the experts, will try to reflash to stock recovery when the JB OTA us avilable in my region.
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webpatrick said:
You can get the stock recovery from your RUU (especialy for your device), just run the RUU till the files get unpacked in the tmp folder (somewhere in C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\Temp\{guid}\{guid} Tip: order by date on Temp folder) and I think you can find the recovery image in the rom.zip.
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Anybody know where did HTC save the Rom after it in downloaded or where is the RUU in the phone?
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hello, i need to verify something with you guys.
Currently i'm using an HTC One M8 rooted and running on a stock rom, and TWRP as a recovery, can i still have OTA updates in my phone even if I'm on root and TWRP as a recovery. also one thing how can go remove TWRP recovery or revert to HTC recovery
many thanks
I also am curious about this topic
snap213 said:
hello, i need to verify something with you guys.
Currently i'm using an HTC One M8 rooted and running on a stock rom, and TWRP as a recovery, can i still have OTA updates in my phone even if I'm on root and TWRP as a recovery. also one thing how can go remove TWRP recovery or revert to HTC recovery
many thanks
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1. Download the stock recovery for your device from the recovery thread
2. Flash it through fastboot (as you did TWRP)
3. Apply the OTA
4. Reflash TWRP
5. Re-root the phone
guess i'm stuck with my rooted phone then, i rooted my phone using Hansoon2000 All-In-One-Kit
and i can't find my stock rom, my software number is 1.54.707.7
snap213 said:
guess i'm stuck with my rooted phone then, i rooted my phone using Hansoon2000 All-In-One-Kit
and i can't find my stock rom, my software number is 1.54.707.7
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Not stock rom...stock recovery
Look at the bottom of the first post of mr_hofs thread in the general section here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
You'll find your stock recovery there ?
Hope that helps.
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spikeydoo2006 said:
Look at the bottom of the first post of mr_hofs thread in the general section here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376 (under the nandroid backups section)
You'll find your stock recovery there ?
Hope that helps.
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Remember (as said a million times already in multiple threads) - to flash an OTA you CANNOT have changed anything in the original system (fonts, Xposed mods, removing system apps, ANYTHING) otherwise the OTA WILL FAIL
i've browse mr.hofs thread and i've seen lots of stock recoveries. I don't know which stock recovery will I use.
I tried to match it using my software number 1.54.707.7 but there is none. or should i just try the closer to that version?
also another question? can i flash my stock recovery using Hasoon2000's AIO Toolkit? i see here on the left box it's says your own recovery.
thanks.
snap213 said:
i've browse mr.hofs thread and i've seen lots of stock recoveries. I don't know which stock recovery will I use.
I tried to match it using my software number 1.54.707.7 but there is none. or should i just try the closer to that version?
also another question? can i flash my stock recovery using Hasoon2000's AIO Toolkit? i see here on the left box it's says your own recovery.
thanks.
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here is my recovery backup from 1.54.707.7. https://www.dropbox.com/s/p2ht9dxns3ggcyk/recovery.img
Can you backup your radio.img for me? I forgot to backup when i convert my phone to GPE.
to any Hasoons2000's users out there?
also another question? can i flash my stock recovery using Hasoon2000's AIO Toolkit? i see here on the left box it's says your own recovery.
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or can anyone give me a much more detailed or step by step instructions, i know i' cant post in HTC development forum.
snap213 said:
to any Hasoons2000's users out there?
also another question? can i flash my stock recovery using Hasoon2000's AIO Toolkit? i see here on the left box it's says your own recovery.
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or can anyone give me a much more detailed or step by step instructions, i know i' cant post in HTC development forum.
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Yes, you can! I did it exactly that way - and after OTA update reflashed TWRP and rerouted that way. Its a 4 minute job.
snap213 said:
to any Hasoons2000's users out there?
also another question? can i flash my stock recovery using Hasoon2000's AIO Toolkit? i see here on the left box it's says your own recovery.
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or can anyone give me a much more detailed or step by step instructions, i know i' cant post in HTC development forum.
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Learn to do it yourself, relying on toolkits is a false economy as if anything goes wrong you'll have no idea how to fix it...
EddyOS said:
Remember (as said a million times already in multiple threads) - to flash an OTA you CANNOT have changed anything in the original system (fonts, Xposed mods, removing system apps, ANYTHING) otherwise the OTA WILL FAIL
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Yes, that has been mentioned quite a few times in various threads..However one question that pops up now is:
Lets says I did make changes to the system files by removing a system app or using xposed mods (but not flashing any custom roms). But these changes were made AFTER taking a backup of (unchanged) stock recovery. Will OTA still fail if i now flash stock recovery and then ota update? I am guessing it should work as i am bringing the phone back to stock status.
Also what if i do not flash any custom recovery, I just boot into it to take a backup and remain in stock rom. In that case, for an OTA update, do i still need to first flash stock recovery if I have not made changes to sys files?
Finally when you say OTA fail, does that mean there is a chance I will brick/soft brick my phone?or is it just an error message. I ask because in case i make changes to sys and then forget about it or do not realise its consequence for an OTA update, its better I know now what I am getting into.
anjaan said:
Yes, that has been mentioned quite a few times in various threads..However one question that pops up now is:
Lets says I did make changes to the system files by removing a system app or using xposed mods (but not flashing any custom roms). But these changes were made AFTER taking a backup of (unchanged) stock recovery. Will OTA still fail if i now flash stock recovery and then ota update? I am guessing it should work as i am bringing the phone back to stock status.
Also what if i do not flash any custom recovery, I just boot into it to take a backup and remain in stock rom. In that case, for an OTA update, do i still need to first flash stock recovery if I have not made changes to sys files?
Finally when you say OTA fail, does that mean there is a chance I will brick/soft brick my phone?or is it just an error message. I ask because in case i make changes to sys and then forget about it or do not realise its consequence for an OTA update, its better I know now what I am getting into.
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The OTA requires a 100% stock running Android build, so if you have removed any system apps it will just fail and reboot to the ROM you're running at the moment (so you should be safe). Basically, if the /system partition on the phone is ANY way different from how it was when you first bought it the OTA will fail
For example, other than S-OFF my phone is exactly how I received it, therefore the new OTA update installed successfully. If I had removed one system app (e.g. Hangouts), it would fail as it's looking for it and if it can't find it it'll just reboot
i still have my S-OFF here in my HTC, and i haven't removed any system apps. i'll try this later this week.
i just needed my root because of setCPU nothing else.
--- anyway, since we're all learning here.
we'll for example, OTA has been updated and all goes well. now that i have to reflash my recovery to TWRP.
big question again, how do i save my stock recovery using TWRP?
snap213 said:
i still have my S-OFF here in my HTC, and i haven't removed any system apps. i'll try this later this week.
i just needed my root because of setCPU nothing else.
--- anyway, since we're all learning here.
we'll for example, OTA has been updated and all goes well. now that i have to reflash my recovery to TWRP.
big question again, how do i save my stock recovery using TWRP?
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If you're now on 1.54.401.10, you can manually extract it from the firmware package I uploaded HERE
I installed the OTA yesterday and had a different experience. I am with the stock rooted ROM, but I installed Xposed with some modules and the swipe to sleep and no write protection kernel modules. Also, unlocking the bootloader also ate my calculator and torch apps, and I reinstalled them as user apps instead of system apps.
Well, after flashing the stock recovery, the OTA worked like a charm. I applied it manually from the stock recovery, but I don't think this makes a difference. I had to re-root afterwards, but all the rest was preserved.
I am S-OFF though. Is that the reason why it bypassed some security checks?
Black Antitoon said:
I installed the OTA yesterday and had a different experience. I am with the stock rooted ROM, but I installed Xposed with some modules and the swipe to sleep and no write protection kernel modules. Also, unlocking the bootloader also ate my calculator and torch apps, and I reinstalled them as user apps instead of system apps.
Well, after flashing the stock recovery, the OTA worked like a charm. I applied it manually from the stock recovery, but I don't think this makes a difference. I had to re-root afterwards, but all the rest was preserved.
I am S-OFF though. Is that the reason why it bypassed some security checks?
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I can see the apps that were removed during unlocking still working if installed as user apps as they're still on the /data partition. If they weren't there at all then it'd probably fail. Surprised that it worked with Xposed installed, but that's also a user app so it could very well work - logically it makes sense.
As a rule of thumb I'd only apply an OTA on a 100% stock system, that way you know it'll all be fine
The OTA 4.4.3 update is now available for my phone, but I've rooted it, and I've read the horror stories so I'm not going to blunder blindly into this
My rooting experience went a little poorly - I thought I was doing the right thing by backing everything up on the phone first, using Helium. Unfortunately Helium simply did the backup onto the internal storage itself, so it all got wiped during the process anyway.
Anyway, I got over that, but now I want to install the OTA 4.4.3 update. So here's the things I've done which I think are relevant:
1. Installed TWRP recovery, as required for rooting
2. Have flashed the SuperSU program for root
3. AFAIK I'm still on "stock" - I haven't gone out to find any special roms etc
4. Had to reinstall the calc and flashlight apps as they were missing after the whole exercise (so many I'm not on stock, or they would be there?)
5. I have installed Xposed Framework and the Sense 6 tweaks and GravityBox apps.
6. I tried to uninstall some system apps (Facebook, Twitter, things I don't use) with a root uninstaller program, but every time the phone reboots they re-appear, so I think I need s-off to do that properly?
7. I've 'Disabled' the weibo app through the standard app info button
I understand I have to go back to the "stock recovery" in order to do the OTA update, but is there anything else in the above list that I need to do anything about?
Will going back to the stock recovery mean I lose all of the content on my device again, and have to restore it from a backup? If I use the HTC backup app to back up all my phone data on the rooted 4.4.2 I'm running, can this then be restored onto the 4.4.3 version?
Also is the problem I mention in #6 solved by going s-off?
Lanthanide said:
The OTA 4.4.3 update is now available for my phone, but I've rooted it, and I've read the horror stories so I'm not going to blunder blindly into this
My rooting experience went a little poorly - I thought I was doing the right thing by backing everything up on the phone first, using Helium. Unfortunately Helium simply did the backup onto the internal storage itself, so it all got wiped during the process anyway.
Anyway, I got over that, but now I want to install the OTA 4.4.3 update. So here's the things I've done which I think are relevant:
1. Installed TWRP recovery, as required for rooting
2. Have flashed the SuperSU program for root
3. AFAIK I'm still on "stock" - I haven't gone out to find any special roms etc
4. Had to reinstall the calc and flashlight apps as they were missing after the whole exercise (so many I'm not on stock, or they would be there?)
5. I have installed Xposed Framework and the Sense 6 tweaks and GravityBox apps.
6. I tried to uninstall some system apps (Facebook, Twitter, things I don't use) with a root uninstaller program, but every time the phone reboots they re-appear, so I think I need s-off to do that properly?
7. I've 'Disabled' the weibo app through the standard app info button
I understand I have to go back to the "stock recovery" in order to do the OTA update, but is there anything else in the above list that I need to do anything about?
Will going back to the stock recovery mean I lose all of the content on my device again, and have to restore it from a backup? If I use the HTC backup app to back up all my phone data on the rooted 4.4.2 I'm running, can this then be restored onto the 4.4.3 version?
Also is the problem I mention in #6 solved by going s-off?
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Flashing back stock recovery you won't loose anything. This just happens during the unlock process if done with HTCDev.
Good that you are not S-Off and FB, Twitter and so on are still installed, as otherwise you wouldn't be abled to perform the OTA. An OTA is only going to run if the whole system is unchanged.
Only thing that's quite likely going to happen, is that you root is lost after the OTA. Tthus you would have to flash TWRP and the SuperSu again, after the OTA.
HTCNerdYoda said:
Flashing back stock recovery you won't loose anything. This just happens during the unlock process if done with HTCDev.
Good that you are not S-Off and FB, Twitter and so on are still installed, as otherwise you wouldn't be abled to perform the OTA. An OTA is only going to run if the whole system is unchanged.
Only thing that's quite likely going to happen, is that you root is lost after the OTA. Tthus you would have to flash TWRP and the SuperSu again, after the OTA.
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I thought it didn't matter if you were s/off or not, so long as recovery and OS were stock and CID matched (or were SuperCID).
bruce7373 said:
I thought it didn't matter if you were s/off or not, so long as recovery and OS were stock and CID matched (or were SuperCID).
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It doesn't matter in general. But it matters in case that you used S-Off to uninstall system APPs Thus an OTA wouldn't succeed.
That's what I wanted to say in my post above
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Wow found my answer already. Just to confirm. I'm in the same situation. Rooted. Installed twrp and su. Went to s-off with firewater but got the whelp message.
Got the OTA update in this morning. Tried installing it, went to my recovery so I tried to install it. It failed of course. Phone is still ok.
I'm just making sure I'll do this ok. Gotta go back to original recovery then install it or am I just better off going to a custom rom?
On my vivid, I used paranoid when it was available, used pacman for a bit. Also used the CyanogenMod. I know recommendation shouldn't be made but i know on my vivid there were lots of issues since there wasn't a specific team rolling out the roms but someone porting them from the specific team. Is there a team dedicated to this phone? If so are their roms leaps ahead of the ones ported over? Just looking at the downloads you can tell which one is the most popular, that doesn't always mean they are the best.
Thanks for any advice.
Yuskow said:
Wow found my answer already. Just to confirm. I'm in the same situation. Rooted. Installed twrp and su. Went to s-off with firewater but got the whelp message.
Got the OTA update in this morning. Tried installing it, went to my recovery so I tried to install it. It failed of course. Phone is still ok.
I'm just making sure I'll do this ok. Gotta go back to original recovery then install it or am I just better off going to a custom rom?
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I would revert to stock recovery and get me this OTA. And you need a 2.22.xxx FW for some of the custom ROMs currently available.
It's the fastest way to update your firmware anyway
Alternatively you could try to perform an S-Off using SunShine and paying 25$ for it, as I did to flash the newest FW.
HTCNerdYoda said:
I would revert to stock recovery and get me this OTA. And you need a 2.22.xxx FW for some of the custom ROMs currently available.
It's the fastest way to update your firmware anyway
Alternatively you could try to perform an S-Off using SunShine and paying 25$ for it, as I did to flash the newest FW.
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Got my cid as bm 001
so i got the nandroid backup here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
now i just do a restore under twrp?
is the s-off really worth it?
Yuskow said:
Got my cid as bm 001
so i got the nandroid backup here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
now i just do a restore under twrp?
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As long as the ROM you are using is stock and you only routetd, you just need to flash stock recovery for the OTA to succeed.
Yuskow said:
is the s-off really worth it?
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Well from my point of view: yes it is. Needed S-Off to debrand my One M8 and change CID to a WWE one. Well and additionally you can do a lot more if the security flag is on off (never without propper reading before doing it of course).
Yuskow said:
Wow found my answer already. Just to confirm. I'm in the same situation. Rooted. Installed twrp and su. Went to s-off with firewater but got the whelp message.
Got the OTA update in this morning. Tried installing it, went to my recovery so I tried to install it. It failed of course. Phone is still ok.
I'm just making sure I'll do this ok. Gotta go back to original recovery then install it or am I just better off going to a custom rom?
On my vivid, I used paranoid when it was available, used pacman for a bit. Also used the CyanogenMod. I know recommendation shouldn't be made but i know on my vivid there were lots of issues since there wasn't a specific team rolling out the roms but someone porting them from the specific team. Is there a team dedicated to this phone? If so are their roms leaps ahead of the ones ported over? Just looking at the downloads you can tell which one is the most popular, that doesn't always mean they are the best.
Thanks for any advice.
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I had the Vivid as well and ended up with a 4.4.2 ROM which seemed to be the most current that was available at the time, but can't remember the name or the dev.
As for the M8, I've been on ARHD almost exclusively and think it's one of the best ROMs out there. I've tried Viper, MaximusHD, Renovate also, but always come back to ARHD.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2694917
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HTCNerdYoda said:
As long as the ROM you are using is stock and you only routetd, you just need to flash stock recovery for the OTA to succeed.
Well from my point of view: yes it is. Needed S-Off to debrand my One M8 and change CID to a WWE one. Well and additionally you can do a lot more if the security flag is on off (never without propper reading before doing it of course).
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I have the WWE edition and am currently with ATT. I'm considering their new update mainly to see if the new firmware/radio will give me better LTE speeds. The fw is 2.23 based. Will that be a problem if or when I return to ARHD which is on 2.22?
bruce7373 said:
I have the WWE edition and am currently with ATT. I'm considering their new update mainly to see if the new firmware/radio will give me better LTE speeds. The fw is 2.23 based. Will that be a problem if or when I return to ARHD which is on 2.22?
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That's a really good question. Regarding ViperOne I could tell that running 1.8.0 (which was on 1.54.xx base) with 2.22.xxx FW worked flawlessly. So I would guess this should work just fine.
At least it's worth a try. Maybe better ask in the ROM thread.
Used arhd on my vivid for a bit. Must say it was an ok rom but lots of issues in general with all new roms on the vivid. Hardware too outdated. Maybe I'll give it a shot. Really leaning to a de-senced one.
HTCNerdYoda said:
Flashing back stock recovery you won't loose anything. This just happens during the unlock process if done with HTCDev.
Good that you are not S-Off and FB, Twitter and so on are still installed, as otherwise you wouldn't be abled to perform the OTA. An OTA is only going to run if the whole system is unchanged.
Only thing that's quite likely going to happen, is that you root is lost after the OTA. Tthus you would have to flash TWRP and the SuperSu again, after the OTA.
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Ok, that's encouraging.
My CID is HTC__621 although I don't think I need that for just flashing back to stock recovery. My version is 1.54.709.12, so I downloaded the matching recovery from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376 and flashed it. I confirmed that the stock recovery was installed by booting to it and getting the red triangle etc.
Then I downloaded the OTA upgrade and told it to install. I didn't watch the installation progress, but eventually it went to the red triangle screen and finally rebooted. But I'm still on 1.54.709.12, so I take that to mean the OTA failed. When I go to system update, it checks and finds one available and offers to download it again, which I haven't done.
I'm wondering if 'disabling' the weibo program could have caused the update to fail? Or possibly I *did* actually uninstall a stock program or two that I mentioned at #6 and that's what's preventing the update?
Anyway, I made a complete nandroid backup on the external SD card before I flashed the recovery. It seems like the easiest approach now would be to flash a stock ROM for HTC__621 then do the OTA upgrade. After that, I could restore my HTC sync (the app) backup from the cloud, but if I wasn't happy with that I could recover the data portion of my nandroid backup?
Lanthanide said:
Ok, that's encouraging.
Anyway, I made a complete nandroid backup on the external SD card before I flashed the recovery. It seems like the easiest approach now would be to flash a stock ROM for HTC__621 then do the OTA upgrade. After that, I could restore my HTC sync (the app) backup from the cloud, but if I wasn't happy with that I could recover the data portion of my nandroid backup?
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In fact you are right. The OTA fails as something on the system has been changed that's critical to the OTA.
So I would back up the data on the phone I need, download a stock nandroid backup for your CID, install with twrp, re-flash stock recovery and perform the OTA again.
HTCNerdYoda said:
In fact you are right. The OTA fails as something on the system has been changed that's critical to the OTA.
So I would back up the data on the phone I need, download a stock nandroid backup for your CID, install with twrp, re-flash stock recovery and perform the OTA again.
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Ok, so I put on a stock nadroid backup for HTC__621, changed to stock recovery, but the OTA update is still failing at around the 30% mark.
Actually I've just noticed that the stock ROM I put on doesn't have the calc or flashlight apps, but when I originally bought the phone they were on there. I had subsequently installed them using the apps on this thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699906
But maybe that is what is preventing me from doing the OTA now?
Edit: Right, so doing some more reading, it seems that HTC included these 'stock' apps in the /data directory instead of /system, so when doing the HTCDev install, they get wiped. But there was a note in that thread saying that for the One M7, they would actually do a hash of those apps too and if they weren't there the update would fail.
Someone linked to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2703759 which says the APKs in the first one were from the M7, and these are from M8, and it also included another one called Seven Digital (yet another bloatware app I don't care about, hence why I didn't notice it was gone). Anyway I installed those 3 apps, but the OTA update still fails at around the 30% mark. I notice that the thread says preload APKs for 1.54.401.5, but my phone is running 1.54.709.12, so if they really are doing hashing for all of these apps, the update might be expectly a slightly different version and therefore fail the hash check?
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Right, posting as new post because I solved it!
I searched through the collection thread and luckily found someone else who has HTC__621 who wanted to do the 4.4.3 upgrade as well. ckpv5 stepped in to lend a hand with this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54598052&postcount=1514
The TWRP stock ROM he posted there includes the flashlight and calculator app, as well as another one that looks like it was missing - WeChat. So now the OTA update has applied as expected. :highfive
I'll suggest Mr Hofs remove the existing nandroid backup for HTC__621 that he has there because it isn't complete.
Weirdly after all that was done, now that I have 4.4.3, the calc and flashlight apps are again missing; no sign of WeChat either. So I'll probably have to go through this whole performance again next time I want to OTA update?
Edit: More findings. In installing Xposed Framework on my phone, it can't do the 'classical' install because of S-on, instead it flashes it through recovery. So I suspect this could have been preventing the OTA update as well.
Lanthanide said:
Weirdly after all that was done, now that I have 4.4.3, the calc and flashlight apps are again missing; no sign of WeChat either. So I'll probably have to go through this whole performance again next time I want to OTA update?
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Because you relocked bootloader when you did the OTA update. So those files were deleted when you re-unlocked bootloader after OTA done.
There's a TWRP backup for the latest here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55097943&postcount=1744
Just a note : there is no need to relock bootloader to do OTA update.
ckpv5 said:
Because you relocked bootloader when you did the OTA update. So those files were deleted when you re-unlocked bootloader after OTA done.
There's a TWRP backup for the latest here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55097943&postcount=1744
Just a note : there is no need to relock bootloader to do OTA update.
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Ok, at least there's an explanation for what happened, but I didn't at any point explicitly lock the bootloader. All I did was:
1. Flash TWRP recovery
2. Flash the ROM you provided
3. Boot the phone, going through the setup stuff to configure wifi etc
4. Booted to fastboot and flashed to stock recovery
5. Rebooted phone, downloaded and installed OTA update
6. Booted to fastboot and re-flashed TWRP, ran nandroid backup and then installed superSU when offered
At what point would the locking of the bootloader have occurred?
Lanthanide said:
At what point would the locking of the bootloader have occurred?
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Re-unlocking bootloader is one scenario that may happen that remove the preload folder.
Restoring an old backup which doesn't have the preload folder is another scenario.
Anyway that is easily can be fix by pushing the preload folder from OTA zip to /data
then make a new backup for future OTA
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Re-unlocking bootloader is one scenario that may happen that remove the preload folder.
Restoring an old backup which doesn't have the preload folder is another scenario.
Anyway that is easily can be fix by pushing the preload folder from OTA zip to /data
then make a new backup for future OTA
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Ok, well like I said, I didn't explicitly choose the lock the bootloader at any point, and the nandroid backup that you created *did* have the extra apps in there (I confirmed their presence at step 3 in my sequence).
Note that I'm not trying to be argumentative, just explaining my experience in case this might help others in the future.
I'm on a stock unlocked 10 in the USA. I'm trying to understand all the root options. I really only want root for a couple reasons which is primarily titanium backup and greenify.
I don't believe I need sunshine for this but believe I need to unlock the bootloader. Correct? My concern is what happens with otas? How will I get them? Will I have to unroot every time I want to apply one? Do I have to apply a new recovery for what I want to do?
I also read that there are potential radio issues when rooting. Will I encounter that?
I'm in the same boat and new to htc. You need to unlock the bootloader to root. You only need s-off if you want to flash firmware from other regions etc.
If you flash twrp/root, you can't get OTA updates. So you would have to flash custom rom which hopefully updates to include the latest OTA (will take some time)
Or... You restore back to stock system and recovery (I think?) then get OTA, then reflash twrp and re-root.
I can't find a clear guide anywhere, there are snippets of information hidden away in several post's. Once I understand, I will flash twrp/root and try Leedroid rom, knowing I can restore via nandroid, hopefully. Also think there are issues if you change system, hosts file, gps.conf etc, it's not clear....
So... waiting for clear guidance on, how to restore back to stock, meaning I can try twrp/root/custom rom.
Missing greenify, adblock, changing kernel params, TBackup to debloat and backup
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Are there any clear instructions on this?
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Also do we lose encryption? If we flash back to stock to take an ota, so we have to wipe every time?
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If you S-Off and S-On, you lose data because you lose/gain encryption keys. (Or.. well, somethin' like that.)
Thanks but I don't think I need s off. I just want to greenify and backup
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I'm on a stock unlocked 10 in the USA. I'm trying to understand all the root options. I really only want root for a couple reasons which is primarily titanium backup and greenify.
I don't believe I need sunshine for this but believe I need to unlock the bootloader. Correct?
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Correct.
km8j said:
My concern is what happens with otas? How will I get them? Will I have to unroot every time I want to apply one? Do I have to apply a new recovery for what I want to do?
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In order to root, you will need to flash a custom recovery (TWRP) and the latest BETA SuperSU (either the modified version that leaves forced encryption enabled, or the standard version that requires you to specify that prior to flashing). Doing that alone will not break your ability to receive an OTA update. However, for an OTA to be completely installed, stock recovery is required (which replaces TWRP). After rooting, you can return to stock recovery if you desire, and then you should be able to install the OTA with no problem, provided you haven't modified system at all. However, you'll then have to re-install custom recovery and root again, as the new boot.img that's included in the OTA zip will remove root access. Then you can follow the same procedure to be prepared for future OTAs.
The question really becomes, will you be using either of those apps to modify system? I don't personally know how they work and why they need root access - I'm assuming it's to access information under /data. If they're not touching /system, you should be fine.
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I also read that there are potential radio issues when rooting. Will I encounter that?
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The radio issues aren't necessarily related to root - they're related to removing encryption. Using the modified SuperSU or applying the proper flag to the standard SuperSU prevent this from being an issue.
Hey there,
I've got my first HTC device some days ago (-> HTC 10), but coming from a Nexus 5 where things are handled differently, I'm currently quite confused on how all of this works with my HTC 10.
I'd like to apologize in advance if the following questions seem to be stupid or unnecessary, but I'd like to use my device to the fullest and therefore I need your help.
My device is not branded (as far as I can tell) and I've already unlocked it via the steps on htcdev.com + I've installed TWRP + SuperSU (thanks to my previous knowledge with my N5 this was somewhat easy).
Now I got my first OTA update and this is when things got complicated. Several questions popped up and I tried to answer them myself while looking over here, but after reading all those threads I'm even more confused than before :/
My questions are the following:
1) Is there any way to manually update your device with the newest OTA update WITHOUT losing any data? (see question 2)
2) Do I need a microSD card in order to do so? I've seen several YT videos where they did a backup of the current system, but there still was a data wipe after flashing, so why even bother doing a backup at all?
3) My device is unlocked but with S-ON. Do I need S-OFF after all? As far as I can tell I don't need this, but is there any scenario I'd probably need it? (see question 4)
4) I'm thinking about getting a custom rom (Leedroid seems to be pretty decent). Can you recommend any of those custom roms and do I need S-OFF in order to flash them?
5) S-OFF + Locked or S-OFF + Unlocked? What's the difference? Any issues with the warranty?
6) If I do use a custom rom (e.g. Leedroid), is there also a way to update it to further versions without losing any data?
7) Where do I get the latest firmware for manually updating my device? I've already found a thread for it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/stock-stock-collection-recovery-ruu-ota-t3359297), but my current firmware (1.90.401.5) or the one for the OTA update that already popped up (1.95.401.3) isn't listed over there. [EDIT: found my current firmware. Do I need to flash to it in order to do the OTA update?)
8) One last general question: as far as I understand it, unlocking your device is also the same as debranding it? I'm not sure if I'm mixing things up when reading about this. Is there any way to see if my device was branded before I did unlock/root it though?
I'm completely fine with losing my current data if that means that I can set it up my device in such a way that I can avoid any further data wipes when flasing/updating.
I'd be absolutely grateful if someone would answer those questions and help me to understand all of this.
Greetings,
makit_
1) Yes..you can apply the OTA manually, which won't flash the firmware image in the update but you can then find a no-wipe version of the new firmware on xda and flash it. Check out the faq in the twrp thread
2) for flashing firmware packages generally yes its better to have an SD card but I *think* it's possible to do it by issuing fastboot commands
3) s-off is needed if you wanna flash a new firmware I believe
4) you don't need S-off to flash a new ROM that's compatible with your firmware. Leedroid should work for you (this answer can be easily found by checking out each ROM thread and reading the Prerequisites section)
5) yes, most of the time you can "dirty flash" a new version of the same rom on top of the old one without wiping. If any issues pop up, or if it's a new base with large differences, then a wipe is needed. You can usually tell if a wipe is required by checking out what the developer says in the thread when a new updated is posted
6) I'm sure it's in a thread somewhere, you gotta search (I think sneakyghost's thread might have them)! And again you need S-off if you wanna flash firmwares
not an expert but here's my thoughts...
1) Is there any way to manually update your device with the newest OTA update WITHOUT losing any data? (see question 2) Yes. But if you want official update from HTC or your carrier via OTA you should be on stock. If you're on custom ROM, you can always dirty flash. But updating to a newer build, ROM dev sometimes recommend a full wipe
2) Do I need a microSD card in order to do so? I've seen several YT videos where they did a backup of the current system, but there still was a data wipe after flashing, so why even bother doing a backup at all?
SD card is not a requirement but is recommended since a full back-up size is ranging from 5gb-10gb maybe more depending in how many apps you installed. Backup is also recommended so you can always go back/restore your working ROM in case you messed up updating.
3) My device is unlocked but with S-ON. Do I need S-OFF after all? As far as I can tell I don't need this, but is there any scenario I'd probably need it? (see question 4). You need s-off mostly on updating your firmware or converting your device to other carrier or if you want to be unlocked. Right now you can flash any custom roms you like since we do not have a major update yet eg.1.x to 2.x. Once 2.x firmware is released, You can easily flash this firmware. But if you're S-ON, you can only update your firmware via official OTA from your carrier or if @Sneakyghost provide specific firmware for your carrier (matching cid and mid) in this thread else you're stock at 1.x firmware and ROMs that will only work on that specific firmware.
4) I'm thinking about getting a custom rom (Leedroid seems to be pretty decent). Can you recommend any of those custom roms and do I need S-OFF in order to flash them? See my answer in #3
5) S-OFF + Locked or S-OFF + Unlocked? What's the difference? Any issues with the warranty? If you're S-off you can always revert back to S-on and return to stock for warranty purposes.
6) If I do use a custom rom (e.g. Leedroid), is there also a way to update it to further versions without losing any data? Yes. see also #1
7) Where do I get the latest firmware for manually updating my device? I've already found a thread for it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-...u-ota-t3359297), but my current firmware (1.90.401.5) or the one for the OTA update that already popped up (1.95.401.3) isn't listed over there. [EDIT: found my current firmware. Do I need to flash to it in order to do the OTA update?)See @Sneakyghost thread linked in #3. Firmware updating can be done via OTA or via fastboot(firmware zip can be downloaded) or full RUU (updating both ROM and firmware).
8) One last general question: as far as I understand it, unlocking your device is also the same as debranding it? I'm not sure if I'm mixing things up when reading about this. Is there any way to see if my device was branded before I did unlock/root it though? I think you meant sim unlocking here?? Generally, "unlocking" mostly mentioned in xda refers to bootloader
Tarima said:
1) Yes..you can apply the OTA manually, which won't flash the firmware image in the update but you can then find a no-wipe version of the new firmware on xda and flash it. Check out the faq in the twrp thread
2) for flashing firmware packages generally yes its better to have an SD card but I *think* it's possible to do it by issuing fastboot commands
3) s-off is needed if you wanna flash a new firmware I believe
4) you don't need S-off to flash a new ROM that's compatible with your firmware. Leedroid should work for you (this answer can be easily found by checking out each ROM thread and reading the Prerequisites section)
5) yes, most of the time you can "dirty flash" a new version of the same rom on top of the old one without wiping. If any issues pop up, or if it's a new base with large differences, then a wipe is needed. You can usually tell if a wipe is required by checking out what the developer says in the thread when a new updated is posted
6) I'm sure it's in a thread somewhere, you gotta search (I think sneakyghost's thread might have them)! And again you need S-off if you wanna flash firmwares
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Thanks for your response! The numeration is wrong though as I edited my post while you were already typing your answers, but I figured it out nonetheless
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side_flip15 said:
1) Is there any way to manually update your device with the newest OTA update WITHOUT losing any data? (see question 2) Yes. But if you want official update from HTC or your carrier via OTA you should be on stock. If you're on custom ROM, you can always dirty flash. But updating to a newer build, ROM dev sometimes recommend a full wipe
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When using a custom ROM, is it also possible to save your data so you can restore it after the full wipe?
side_flip15 said:
2) Do I need a microSD card in order to do so? I've seen several YT videos where they did a backup of the current system, but there still was a data wipe after flashing, so why even bother doing a backup at all?
SD card is not a requirement but is recommended since a full back-up size is ranging from 5gb-10gb maybe more depending in how many apps you installed. Backup is also recommended so you can always go back/restore your working ROM in case you messed up updating.
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As far as I can tell, when doing a backup, you dont save your data 'partition' as it is encrypted anyways. Do I assume right that when doing a backup, I cannot restore my data I had before doing the flash?
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3) My device is unlocked but with S-ON. Do I need S-OFF after all? As far as I can tell I don't need this, but is there any scenario I'd probably need it? (see question 4). You need s-off mostly on updating your firmware or converting your device to other carrier or if you want to be unlocked. Right now you can flash any custom roms you like since we do not have a major update yet eg.1.x to 2.x. Once 2.x firmware is released, You can easily flash this firmware. But if you're S-ON, you can only update your firmware via official OTA from your carrier or if @Sneakyghost provide specific firmware for your carrier (matching cid and mid) in this thread else you're stock at 1.x firmware and ROMs that will only work on that specific firmware.
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I've already seen the sunshine thread which is about turning S-OFF. While it is possible to go back to S-ON, it was recommended to let your device stay in S-OFF. Is there a high risk in bricking your device when trying to go back to S-ON?
side_flip15 said:
4) I'm thinking about getting a custom rom (Leedroid seems to be pretty decent). Can you recommend any of those custom roms and do I need S-OFF in order to flash them? See my answer in #3
5) S-OFF + Locked or S-OFF + Unlocked? What's the difference? Any issues with the warranty? If you're S-off you can always revert back to S-on and return to stock for warranty purposes.
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As far as I know, doing so will void your warranty. Won't they notice if I just revert it myself and then send it in for warranty?
side_flip15 said:
7) Where do I get the latest firmware for manually updating my device? I've already found a thread for it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-...u-ota-t3359297), but my current firmware (1.90.401.5) or the one for the OTA update that already popped up (1.95.401.3) isn't listed over there. [EDIT: found my current firmware. Do I need to flash to it in order to do the OTA update?)See @Sneakyghost thread linked in #3. Firmware updating can be done via OTA or via fastboot(firmware zip can be downloaded) or full RUU (updating both ROM and firmware).
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Sorry this might be a rather dumb question, but I always thought ROM and firmware are the same thing. Or is it that updating my device via OTA is updating my firmware, while installing something like Leedroid is altering my ROM?
Again, thanks for all your responses in advance! You're helping me out a lot!
Greetings,
makit_
When using a custom ROM, is it also possible to save your data so you can restore it after the full wipe?
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its possible but there's possibility that you might have some issue. Not sure though, never done that. I always use titanium backup to restore my apps.
As far as I can tell, when doing a backup, you dont save your data 'partition' as it is encrypted anyways. Do I assume right that when doing a backup, I cannot restore my data I had before doing the flash?
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Data partition can be backed up actually and can be restored.
I've already seen the sunshine thread which is about turning S-OFF. While it is possible to go back to S-ON, it was recommended to let your device stay in S-OFF. Is there a high risk in bricking your device when trying to go back to S-ON?
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Agree. there is no sense in reverting back to s-on unless if it's for warranty purposes.
Is there a high risk in bricking your device when trying to go back to S-ON?
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I would say NO. I never used sunshine to s-off. I am using a hardware s-off and I did not experience any issue going back to s-on.
As far as I know, doing so will void your warranty. Won't they notice if I just revert it myself and then send it in for warranty?
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On the device itself, I don't think so as long as you return it in full stock state. But if I remember correctly HTC dev requires you to provide your imei when requesting for unlock token bin file used to unlock bootloader, So if your unlock you device via HTC dev they have your imei in their record. They know that you already unlocked your device and warranty is void already.
Sorry this might be a rather dumb question, but I always thought ROM and firmware are the same thing
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Take a look at this link. It provides you a complete explanation between ROM and Firmware.
Or is it that updating my device via OTA is updating my firmware, while installing something like Leedroid is altering my ROM?
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Updating via official OTA usually updates ROM and firmware.
Installing a custom rom does not update firmware. Yes, it only alters ROM. But your ROM should always match your firmware at least the first digit of the firmware version (eg. 1.xx). For instance Android N (firmware veraion to be 2.x) arrives and LeeDroid updates its ROM to this, to be able to flash this latest custom rom, your firmware should also be at latest 2.x firmware else it will not boot. In this case, you need to update your firmware either via OTA, Fastboot or RUU.
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Thanks for your response! The numeration is wrong though as I edited my post while you were already typing your answers, but I figured it out nonetheless
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When using a custom ROM, is it also possible to save your data so you can restore it after the full wipe?
As far as I can tell, when doing a backup, you dont save your data 'partition' as it is encrypted anyways. Do I assume right that when doing a backup, I cannot restore my data I had before doing the flash?
I've already seen the sunshine thread which is about turning S-OFF. While it is possible to go back to S-ON, it was recommended to let your device stay in S-OFF. Is there a high risk in bricking your device when trying to go back to S-ON?
As far as I know, doing so will void your warranty. Won't they notice if I just revert it myself and then send it in for warranty?
Sorry this might be a rather dumb question, but I always thought ROM and firmware are the same thing. Or is it that updating my device via OTA is updating my firmware, while installing something like Leedroid is altering my ROM?
Again, thanks for all your responses in advance! You're helping me out a lot!
Greetings,
makit_
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Thats a thing that iam also interested in. Iam also new to htc.
I think with firmware they mean bootloader. But nobody gave me a good answer till now...
side_flip15 said:
its possible but there's possibility that you might have some issue. Not sure though, never done that. I always use titanium backup to restore my apps.
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I know that app by name, but never used it. Will take a look into it
side_flip15 said:
I would say NO. I never used sunshine to s-off. I am using a hardware s-off and I did not experience any issue going back to s-on.
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Do you mean like this? (found in another forum):
1. First step is to unlock bootloader:
a) If bootloader unlock is turned off on your phone, you need to turn it on first:
- Boot to Android OS and perform initial setup if necessary
- Go to Menu -> Developer settings and tick "Enable OEM unlock"
Run XTC 2 Tool and open "Bootloader unlock" tab, follow instructions to unlock your bootloader.
2. Reboot to download mode, open "HTC 10" tab and install twrp recovery, you can get it here:
[...]
or
[...]
3. Boot to Bootloader, and press "Reboot to recovery".
4. In "HTC 10" tab press "Do S-OFF button".
5. Wait for the process to finish. Done.
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side_flip15 said:
On the device itself, I don't think so as long as you return it in full stock state. But if I remember correctly HTC dev requires you to provide your imei when requesting for unlock token bin file used to unlock bootloader, So if your unlock you device via HTC dev they have your imei in their record. They know that you already unlocked your device and warranty is void already.
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Yeah, I've done it this way. Sucks. But maybe it's not this bad at all. As I'm trying to be safe anyway, I probably only need to make use of the warranty if I'd accidentally drop my device. Those cases are still valid for warranty as far as I can tell (extract from the htcdev.com site: 'Please understand that you will not be able to return your device to the original state and going forward your device may not be held covered under the warranty for all claims resulting from the unlocking of the bootloader.'). Do you also know anything about this?
side_flip15 said:
Take a look at [... ]this link[/URL]. It provides you a complete explanation between ROM and Firmware.
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Thanks, will look into it.
side_flip15 said:
Updating via official OTA usually updates ROM and firmware.
Installing a custom rom does not update firmware. Yes, it only alters ROM. But your ROM should always match your firmware at least the first digit of the firmware version (eg. 1.xx). For instance Android N (firmware veraion to be 2.x) arrives and LeeDroid updates its ROM to this, to be able to flash this latest custom rom, your firmware should also be at latest 2.x firmware else it will not boot. In this case, you need to update your firmware either via OTA, Fastboot or RUU.
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Good to know. So in order to use the latest Leedroid and get rid of that OTA update notification, I should do the following:
1) Go back to stock (flash via RUU)
2) Hardware S-OFF (see above)
3) Flash latest OTA update
4) Custom Recovery again (TWRP) + Root (SuperSU)
5) Install latest Leedroid (have to read about it first, but afaik I have to install the zip of it via TWRP)
6) done
Is this correct or are there any mistakes?
And thanks a ton, you've helped me so much already!
Greetings,
makit_
makit_ said:
1) Is there any way to manually update your device with the newest OTA update WITHOUT losing any data? (see question 2)
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If you are stock with only SU, then this is how I've gone about installing OTAs without wiping data:
1. Download ota (Settings>About>Software Updates) and move downloaded OTA from /data/data/com.htc.updater/files to sd card
2. In TWRP restore stock 'System Image' and 'Boot'
3. Reboot to Downloader
4. Flash stock recovery (fastboot.exe flash recovery xxx.img) --> can use current ota.zip > extract firmware.img from zip (if using 7zip -> rename .zip to .rar to extract fw)
5. Reboot to stock recovery
6. Install OTA in stock recovery
7. Reboot to Downloader
8. Reinstall TWRP (fastboot.exe flash recovery twrpxxx.img)
9. Backup stock 'System Image' and 'Boot'
10. In TWRP reflash SuperSu/Xposed/etc
yankee1390 said:
If you are stock with only SU, then this is how I've gone about installing OTAs without wiping data:
1. Download ota (Settings>About>Software Updates) and move downloaded OTA from /data/data/com.htc.updater/files to sd card
2. In TWRP restore stock 'System Image' and 'Boot'
3. Reboot to Downloader
4. Flash stock recovery (fastboot.exe flash recovery xxx.img) --> can use current ota.zip > extract firmware.img from zip (if using 7zip -> rename .zip to .rar to extract fw)
5. Reboot to stock recovery
6. Install OTA in stock recovery
7. Reboot to Downloader
8. Reinstall TWRP (fastboot.exe flash recovery twrpxxx.img)
9. Backup stock 'System Image' and 'Boot'
10. In TWRP reflash SuperSu/Xposed/etc
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This sounds very convenient and not far too different than what I was used to with my N5. Guess I'll give it a go! Already found a way to disable the HTC lock screen http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/help/disable-htc-10-lockscreen-t3418108 (which is annoying especially when using a different launcher as the lock screen background is still the one from the stock launcher). Only thing bugging me now is that BoomSound notification, but I guess I can live with that
makit_ said:
This sounds very convenient and not far too different than what I was used to with my N5. Guess I'll give it a go! Already found a way to disable the HTC lock screen http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/help/disable-htc-10-lockscreen-t3418108 (which is annoying especially when using a different launcher as the lock screen background is still the one from the stock launcher). Only thing bugging me now is that BoomSound notification, but I guess I can live with that
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may look at installing XPosed as they have a module "XNotifications" that lets you hide any type of notification
yankee1390 said:
may look at installing XPosed as they have a module "XNotifications" that lets you hide any type of notification
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Will also look into this. I've used Xposed on my N5 but wasn't sure the HTC 10 is already fully supported (have read something about that, but those threads were already 3-4 months old). Thanks!
So I'm trying to do the step-by-step instructions from yankee1390 because I guess that's the easiest way for me to handle things. Now I've already got my first (and hopefully only) issue with it: I did no backup when I first installed TWRP and before I've rooted my device. So in order to accomplisch step 2) (restore stock system image + boot in TWRP), can I use the files from the RUU provided here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/stock-stock-collection-recovery-ruu-ota-t3359297?
I've found the one matching my current firmware (1.90.401.5), so is it ok if I use those for step 2?
And by the way, I guess I have to do a backup after every OTA update (and before rooting) so I always have the right files for restoring, huh?
Greetings,
makit_
edit: may have found the solution to it Will update once I'm done.
makit_ said:
So I'm trying to do the step-by-step instructions from yankee1390 because I guess that's the easiest way for me to handle things. Now I've already got my first (and hopefully only) issue with it: I did no backup when I first installed TWRP and before I've rooted my device. So in order to accomplisch step 2) (restore stock system image + boot in TWRP), can I use the files from the RUU provided here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/stock-stock-collection-recovery-ruu-ota-t3359297?
I've found the one matching my current firmware (1.90.401.5), so is it ok if I use those for step 2?
And by the way, I guess I have to do a backup after every OTA update (and before rooting) so I always have the right files for restoring, huh?
Greetings,
makit_
edit: may have found the solution to it Will update once I'm done.
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Link didn't work on my app so can't confirm if that will work. However any TWRP stock backup that matches your current version should work. RUUs will wipe your data if you use them.
Definitely good idea to backup after each ota before modifying system partition to make next ota easier. Though usually someone on here can provide a backup if you don't get one.
I know that app by name, but never used it. Will take a look into it
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i suggest you purchase a pro version. It's a really a must-have app
Do you mean like this? (found in another forum):
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Yes. This is the process how to s-off using xtc2clip - A very handy tool that works almost every HTC devices. Support is great too.
Yeah, I've done it this way. Sucks. But maybe it's not this bad at all. As I'm trying to be safe anyway, I probably only need to make use of the warranty if I'd accidentally drop my device. Those cases are still valid for warranty as far as I can tell (extract from the htcdev.com site: 'Please understand that you will not be able to return your device to the original state and going forward your device may not be held covered under the warranty for all claims resulting from the unlocking of the bootloader.'). Do you also know anything about this?
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Yeah. They might not know we can s-off. lol
Good to know. So in order to use the latest Leedroid and get rid of that OTA update notification
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If you mean OTA notification from HTC, most of the custom ROMs already disabled that, I believe. And they provide you with their own OTA update (Not all, some do. Like ViperRom)
I should do the following:
1) Go back to stock (flash via RUU)
2) Hardware S-OFF (see above)
3) Flash latest OTA update
4) Custom Recovery again (TWRP) + Root (SuperSU)
5) Install latest Leedroid (have to read about it first, but afaik I have to install the zip of it via TWRP)
6) done
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This is correct but there is an easier way after you s-offed.
1. Download the latest firmware.zip, if you're not on the latest yet. Flash it via fastboot commands in download.
mode. Instruction is available in the link I provided earlier in @Sneakyghost firmware thread.
2. Flash TWRP.
3. Download your desired custom ROM (LeeDroid). This is in .zip file.
4. Reboot to recovery, wipe data/factory reset then flash the LeeDroid.zip. Just follow the instructions in aroma.
by the way, if you'll flash firmware.zip make you select the matching CID and MID of your device. You might end up bricking your device flashing a wrong firmware. If you can provide me your CID and MID, I'll link you to the correct firmware for your device. To do so, reboot to bootloader and type the following commands in cmd, remove your IMEI and SN and post the result here.
And thanks a ton, you've helped me so much already!
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You are welcome.
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I never done updating software via HTC official update. I don't know but for me I don't see any reason sticking to stock ROM. There are a lot of custom ROMs out there tweaked for better performance and battery life. They are also always updated to latest build.
side_flip15 said:
i suggest you purchase a pro version. It's a really a must-have app
Yes. This is the process how to s-off using xtc2clip - A very handy tool that works almost every HTC devices. Support is great too.
Yeah. They might not know we can s-off. lol
If you mean OTA notification from HTC, most of the custom ROMs already disabled that, I believe. And they provide you with their own OTA update (Not all, some do. Like ViperRom)
This is correct but there is an easier way after you s-offed.
1. Download the latest firmware.zip, if you're not on the latest yet. Flash it via fastboot commands in download.
mode. Instruction is available in the link I provided earlier in @Sneakyghost firmware thread.
2. Flash TWRP.
3. Download your desired custom ROM (LeeDroid). This is in .zip file.
4. Reboot to recovery, wipe data/factory reset then flash the LeeDroid.zip. Just follow the instructions in aroma.
by the way, if you'll flash firmware.zip make you select the matching CID and MID of your device. You might end up bricking your device flashing a wrong firmware. If you can provide me your CID and MID, I'll link you to the correct firmware for your device. To do so, reboot to bootloader and type the following commands in cmd, remove your IMEI and SN and post the result here.
You are welcome.
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Thanks for all your help. I will look into it when I need it. For now I'll stick with stock (see below)
side_flip15 said:
I never done updating software via HTC official update. I don't know but for me I don't see any reason sticking to stock ROM. There are a lot of custom ROMs out there tweaked for better performance and battery life. They are also always updated to latest build.
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I love using stock android, that's why I also loved using my Nexus 5. I used CyanogenMod with another device many years ago but I am willing to use a custom ROM for my HTC 10, but only after I already know how it feels with stock ROM. So I will stick with it for several weeks and see how it feels, and when I'm farmiliar with it, I will switch to a custom ROM So thanks a lot, you've given me a lot of information I will still need for further experimenting with my phone!
Piggybacking on this thread because my new-to-me HTC 10 is coming in the mail and I'm planning what to do with it. It is already bootloader unlocked and s-off. I would like to use Leedroid, ElementalX, Magisk, and Xposed.
I've never had an HTC device so I just want to make sure I'm doing this right. So I think this is what I need to do:
1) Flash TWRP via ADB
2) Flash SuperSU in TWRP
3) Flash everything else...Leedroid, ElementX, Xposed, Magisk. In that order? Can I flash them all at once (just keep adding zips to the TWRP list) or do I have to boot between each one?
Xposed is more important to me than a custom ROM, because I need to use Amplify and PowerNap to improve my battery life. Would it be better just to stay on stock instead of Leedroid?
@jrbmed08
TWRP is flashed via fastboot, not ADB.
No need to flash SuperSU via recovery since LeeDroid has root already.
You can flash everything at once.
Sent from my HTC 10
I love using stock android, that's why I also loved using my Nexus 5. I used CyanogenMod with another device many years ago but I am willing to use a custom ROM for my HTC 10, but only after I already know how it feels with stock ROM. So I will stick with it for several weeks and see how it feels, and when I'm farmiliar with it, I will switch to a custom ROM So thanks a lot, you've given me a lot of information I will still need for further experimenting with my phone!
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When I said stock ROM, i meant stock HTC ROM and it's not stock Android. It's a skinned android called HTC sense. . If you want a stock android to run in your HTC 10 you can flash a AOSP based custom ROM.
Magnum_Enforcer said:
@jrbmed08
TWRP is flashed via fastboot, not ADB.
No need to flash SuperSU via recovery since LeeDroid has root already.
You can flash everything at once.
Sent from my HTC 10
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Ah yeah, sorry, fastboot is what I meant. Thank you! I haven't had an unlocked bootloader in quite a while (was using TWRP and Sony stock-based ROMs on a locked Z3c), so it will be interesting to flash kernels and such again.
d_Schizzo said:
Thats a thing that iam also interested in. Iam also new to htc.
I think with firmware they mean bootloader. But nobody gave me a good answer till now...
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not only bootloader, it contains everything. radio.img and any other thing. "low-lewel-stuff", kernel etc, recovery (if stock signed firmware, which is not modded/removed). there are many important things inside.
but firmware is meant for every device the same. it contains everything so that this device can run/work properly.