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Hey guys,
I've got the latest update OTA ready to install, but since my device is rooted I'm wondering what do I do?
I've read threads stating to just update and re root it and others say it won't go through and I'd have to disable signatures in clockwork recovery !
hence I'm confused, please help
Cheers
Jackie
Its not safe to perform official ota updates on rooted devices.
Most of the time nothing happens, you just lose root. But anything could happen from losing your custom recovery to a non booting device, which is known to happen.
If you want updated software on your phone install a custom rom.
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same situation, my question is can i apply this RUU from PC, and what will happen exactly? Lose root, data?
i found this RUU RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.5_Radio_32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_159811_signed
you can apply that RUU but you will lose root and all of your data so back everything up beforehand.
you may also need a Goldcard depending on whether your phone was unbranded from new or not.
mikep99 said:
you can apply that RUU but you will lose root and all of your data so back everything up beforehand.
you may also need a Goldcard depending on whether your phone was unbranded from new or not.
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I know about the Goldcard. Any idea on how to do a backup, i have read about using Titanium but i found it confusing. Little help would be useful
yeah, just use Titanium and back up all user apps as a batch process.
Backuo/Restore at the top of the initial screen.
Menu button and choose Batch
Then Backup all user apps.
you can then restore them after you've flashed the RUU.
also, make sure your contacts are backed up (probably by Google / Gmail).
mikep99 said:
yeah, just use Titanium and back up all user apps as a batch process.
Backuo/Restore at the top of the initial screen.
Menu button and choose Batch
Then Backup all user apps.
you can then restore them after you've flashed the RUU.
also, make sure your contacts are backed up (probably by Google / Gmail).
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OK, but there is an option all apps and data. what is data? is it app data?
Just back up user apps.
You don't want to restore any system data as you are changing roms.
Also, make sure you do a nand backup to go back to if needed.
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mikep99 said:
Just back up user apps.
You don't want to restore any system data as you are changing roms.
Also, make sure you do a nand backup to go back to if needed.
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Did it just now, went fine. Thanks for the help
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So there is still no way to just update by update.zip?
I dont want to reflash my whole phone, I got everything backed up propper
but I find it crap because its just a very small update.
Just ignore the update then, if your phone is working fine
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hmm an official update from htc, great. but if you are rooted and have tried a custom rom or even many such as me, then you dont want to loose that ability to flash great custom roms, just because htc released an update.
i am not sure, but i think that some users just unrevoked (rooted) their devices, but havent installed any custom roms and dont have the joy of it. i never want go to back to original rom. my future updates would be out of a custom rom. great forum here, love it
I just use the stock rom because i'm happy with it.
I rooted my phone because some apps wont work without it. I would try a custom rom but I still remember my HD2 and all the reconfigging I had to do.
Can you flash custom roms without reconfiguring everything?
Like.. when I flashed the last update.zip (405.2) I just installed it and I could start using my phone right away after the update. thats how I like it, but im not sure (more unsure) that this will work the same when I use a custom rom right?
pt0x said:
I just use the stock rom because i'm happy with it.
I rooted my phone because some apps wont work without it. I would try a custom rom but I still remember my HD2 and all the reconfigging I had to do.
Can you flash custom roms without reconfiguring everything?
Like.. when I flashed the last update.zip (405.2) I just installed it and I could start using my phone right away after the update. thats how I like it, but im not sure (more unsure) that this will work the same when I use a custom rom right?
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so you installed the latest update.zip on a rooted device? and did not loose your root functionality?
I'm willing to reroot my phone, I just wanna know if a rooted device when update could mess up !?
I wanna try custom ROMs sadly I can't due to the rebooting issue, will be sending in for repair soon this week !
jackie_jagger said:
so you installed the latest update.zip on a rooted device? and did not loose your root functionality?
I'm willing to reroot my phone, I just wanna know if a rooted device when update could mess up !?
I wanna try custom ROMs sadly I can't due to the rebooting issue, will be sending in for repair soon this week !
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Rooting your device voids your warranty just as much as flashing a custom rom would. Either way would have to use the stock ruu before you send if back so it makes no difference if your stock rooted or have a custom rom.
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Hey all just wanted to clarify something before venturing forward.
1) Unlocking without rooting will still enable OTA updates to be pushed to my yakju GN?
2) Rooting will disable future OTA updates thus requiring manual ROM updates? Each manual update will thus wipe the device and require manual backup and restore of data and apps?
3) What is the reason to unlock the bootloader without rooting? It sees most things like customising boot screen animation, changing icons and using a firewall requires root not just unlock.
Bump! 10cghar.
lazerin said:
Hey all just wanted to clarify something before venturing forward.
1) Unlocking without rooting will still enable OTA updates to be pushed to my yakju GN?
2) Rooting will disable future OTA updates thus requiring manual ROM updates? Each manual update will thus wipe the device and require manual backup and restore of data and apps?
3) What is the reason to unlock the bootloader without rooting? It sees most things like customising boot screen animation, changing icons and using a firewall requires root not just unlock.
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1. Yes
2. Rooting will not affect OTA updates. If you make any changes to anything outside /sdcard/ it'll cause problems. Manual update will not wipe the device.
3. Unlock bootloader + no root.... this way you can root afterwards if you decide to root and then backup your apps/data.
If you don't unlock.. then one day you decide to root, and you unlock bootloader you lose everything and can't back it up.
You can't change boot animations without root.
As well, unlocking the bootloader allows you to use fastboot commands, which you would otherwise not be able to use.
After rooting are we supposed to lock the bootloader back again? What is the reason for locking it again? Is it to prevent malicious apps from messing with it or unintentional modification?
If after rooting, I locked the bootloader back, can I still install other ROMs and multi boot other ROMs?
I would highly recommend you leave it unlocked. If you lock it, you will lose your data the next time you have to unlock.
Also, having it unlocked allows you to use fastboot commands.
There is no good reason to lock it.
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hmm that sucks. I relocked the bootloader because that's what some tutorials said to do.
kwurky said:
hmm that sucks. I relocked the bootloader because that's what some tutorials said to do.
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Who was advising that? In any case, if you're already rooted, you can do a full nandroid backup. You could also download TiBackup and back up all your apps and data. Either way, you have something to fall back on when unlock wipes the phone.
Hmm more than one tutorial I read added that step. Even one on xda. I'm not going to go find it now. Anyways it will be a hassle, that's all, nothing I can't handle. I already have Titanium Backup paid version so my apps and data are covered. I don't think I can do a Nandroid backup though because I encrypted all the data on the phone. When rebooting into CWM, it gives me an error when trying to do Nandroid backup. Says it can't access sdcard.
if I unlock, keep stock recovery and stock ICS and root...
Can I still receive OTA updates if I do things like change boot animation, change the default launcher, use samba filesharing?
Thanks guys
garpunkal said:
if I unlock, keep stock recovery and stock ICS and root...
Can I still receive OTA updates if I do things like change boot animation, change the default launcher, use samba filesharing?
Thanks guys
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Changing the default launcher (as long as you don't delete the original launcher), and using samba will cause no issues. Changing the boot animation may cause you an issue, but just back up the original file before you replace it, so you have a copy just in case.
what about using adaway (as it changes hosts file)...
garpunkal said:
what about using adaway (as it changes hosts file)...
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Not an issue.
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what about busybox?
garpunkal said:
what about busybox?
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No, it won't affect anything. Adding files to the ROM doesn't affect it. What does affect the OTA update is deleting or modifying existing files.
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Hey guys just received my n7 yesterday and am very pleased with this, however I have some questions.
Does rooting (only) removes your OTA updates access? I also own a Galaxy S4 (rooted) and I can't get OTA, it says it's modified, but I did flash a custom update on it and kernel. So if I just root my n7, and not flash anything, I will still get OTA's correct? I just want to use some apps which requires root access and not planning to flash a custom rooms or anything. Thanks for any help.
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Mine is always rooted, and I get all OTAs.
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You just need to have the stock recovery to receive OTAs.
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You just need to have the stock recovery to receive OTAs.
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So if I have twrp installed, i won't receive them?
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Takes 10 seconds to reflash the stock recovery.
UPDATE: SuperSU-v1.55 added the fix for the OTA update issue, so this post is no longer necessary unless you are using an older version of SuperSU
This post also applies to JSS15Q update.
I actually went through and tested JWR66N rooted with SuperSU and the JSS15J OTA update. I expected it to work but it exited with an error.
Ironically the JSS15J OTA actually did patch every single file successfully but near the end while setting permissions, it came up with an error, so after reboot you'll actually be running with all JSS15J rom files, except your build will still say JWR66N, you'll still be running the JWR66N recovery, and you'll still be running the 3.05 bootloader.
I tracked down the issue and put together a fix for it. If you want, it is attached to this post. You just run it after installing SuperSU, so basically:
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot boot twrp.img
within TWRP
install UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.51.zip (SuperSU v1.55 or greater incorporates the OTA fix)
install UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.55.zip
install UPDATE-SuperSU-ota.zip (can be chain installed, just make sure you choose to install it 2nd)
reboot
You'll need to redo these steps (both the installs) after you receive the OTA to preserve root and ability to receive future OTAs.
Also as others have mentioned it is best to be running stock recovery (which the above commands will allow you to do because twrp is never flashed on the tablet) I've attached the stock recovery for JSS15J in case someone needs it.
If you make ANY modifications or delete files from the stock ROM with your new root privileges, then you will greatly increase the chances of the OTA failing. Adding new files is normally fine.
Well shoot - now you have me worried. I did install TWRP, but never considered that would block OTAs. Do they attempt to install and fail?
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rmm200 said:
Well shoot - now you have me worried. I did install TWRP, but never considered that would block OTAs. Do they attempt to install and fail?
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On some platforms, especially when flashing bootloaders and/or radios, the stock recovery pulls some funky maneuvers to get that done. Often custom recoveries are not privy to those maneuvers. Also sometimes custom recoveries will experiment with custom kernels which don't always have the bootloader and/or radio devices mapped the same as the stock kernel. This can lead to problems to.
Thus it is safest to use stock recovery to flash OTAs.
I have flashed the complete JSS15J OTA except for the bootloader part using TWRP and it works ok. All the ROM files are patched.
I just didn't feel like risking my tablet with the bootloader flash portion of JSS15J OTA using twrp. It might work fine. I just know from the past the potential for issues are higher in that section of the OTA flash.
Is it common for nice folk on here to upload a stock zip of say for example, 4.3.1 when it releases so that we can flash it through a custom recovery (e.g., TWRP, CWM etc.), without having to change our custom recoveries?
It was common on other platforms I've used, but I don't know about here.
Root will not prevent an OTA update from coming in and installing, and a custom recovery won't "block" (it just won't be able to complete the install of it automatically). I have been installing OTA updates on rooted Nexus devices with custom recoveries since the Nexus One, and assuming the new Nexus 7 works the same way, the following applies:
If you are running stock ROM, your deivce will receive the notification and download the update, even if rooted
If you are running stock recovery, the update will install automatically as normal
If you are running a custom recovery like CWM or TWRP, it will fail to install automatically but it will still have downloaded to the device and you can use the custom recovery to install it yourself (I've never had this fail)
If you have modified files in /system, the OTA update is pretty much guaranteed to fail regardless of which recovery you use
If you successfully install the OTA update, you will no longer have root, so flash SuperSU using a custom recovery after the OTA update installs
Also:
You can always look for the OTA zip URLs on XDA and just download the update yourself to flash if you don't want to wait for it to come to your device (this is what I always do)
You can flash factory images instead of the update, without losing data (see other threads for how)
If you want to keep stock recovery installed, you can always use fastboot to boot a custom recovery without flashing it, in case you ever need it
The above is accurate and correct as far as I'm aware from my own experience over the years with Nexus devices. I'm sure someone will be happy to correct me if anything is wrong Hope this helps.
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Root will not prevent an OTA update from coming in and installing, and a custom recovery won't "block" (it just won't be able to complete the install of it automatically).
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I thought the same about root not blocking the OTA update install from being successful, but that was with years of using superuser.
With SuperSU (I am not sure which version introduced it) they set the immutable flag on a file in almost every OTA. I believe this is to support some OTA survival mode. This causes the OTA to fail in the section where it sets permissions. All the files are patched at that point, but the build.prop hasn't been modified to reflect the new version # and the bootloader and recovery haven't been flash.
You'll essentially be running JSS15J but your software will report it is on JWR66N, your bootloader wouldn't have been patched, and you would be running JWR66N recovery.
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Is it common for nice folk on here to upload a stock zip of say for example, 4.3.1 when it releases so that we can flash it through a custom recovery (e.g., TWRP, CWM etc.), without having to change our custom recoveries?
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yes the ota update zip always gets posted so you can manually flash with a custom recovery...
just keep in mind you need to keep your files stock otherwise it might not work
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nolook said:
yes the ota update zip always gets posted so you can manually flash with a custom recovery...
just keep in mind you need to keep your files stock otherwise it might not work
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When you say keep your files stock what does that mean exactly? I have titanium backup app installed would that be one of them? Thanks.
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When you say keep your files stock what does that mean exactly? I have titanium backup app installed would that be one of them? Thanks.
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Titanium backup is an app, I assume with files he is targeting e. G. Config files.
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Mightym83 said:
When you say keep your files stock what does that mean exactly? I have titanium backup app installed would that be one of them? Thanks.
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It means don't modify or delete any files in /system
Don't remove a system app that shipped with the tablet. You can install a new version as that just hides the one in /system, but if you remove or modify the original, then the OTA will very likely fail (depending on how complex the OTA is)
Adding files is ok.
Alright, so here's my scenario. Hopefully someone can tell me what should happen:
I am running the stock ROM on my Nexus 7 (2013), but I have ClockWorkMod Recovery installed and I'm using Koush's Superuser app for root permissions. The only system file that I think I have changed is my hosts file because of Adaway. That is easily reverted, though.
So can I just download the OTA, install it manually from the custom recovery (flashing the update.zip file), and then re-flash Koush's superuser app back onto the device?
Will that go smoothly, and will the newer build number be accurately reflected in my About Phone afterward?
(that last part is just my OCD talking)
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[*]If you are running a custom recovery like CWM or TWRP, it will fail to install automatically but it will still have downloaded to the device and you can use the custom recovery to install it yourself (I've never had this fail)
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This was very helpful, and this is the category i fall in. However, i have installed a kernel. does that change anything?
So basically what you are saying is this, with my current set up:
1 - i will get the update, it will download, but wont install. I should boot into TWRP and install the file that way. Correct? Where is the downloaded file stores?
2 - I can just wait for the download to be posted on here, and just install via twrp.
3 - either way, after installing it, i will lose root. I should then boot into twrp and flash supersu.
Correct?
Theoretically it could work. I believe the flash has worked with twrp.
Personally I always put stock recovery back to flash ota's though especially if there is a bootloader (or radio if you have a mobile version) because on some platforms they involve special procedures that may not be in the custom recovery.
On nexus it looks like it will work with custom recovery but it takes so little effort to put stock recovery back I just do it automatically.
Having said that, I've seen one person post it worked on twrp but haven't read an experience on cwm. Not saying it will or won't work.
If we are running the stock ROM, but have it rooted with the custom recovery, why cant we just use Wegfresh's nexus toolkit to Unroot and image using the updated IMG file?
Then go through and use it to recreate the root\custom recovery again?
hello, i need to verify something with you guys.
Currently i'm using an HTC One M8 rooted and running on a stock rom, and TWRP as a recovery, can i still have OTA updates in my phone even if I'm on root and TWRP as a recovery. also one thing how can go remove TWRP recovery or revert to HTC recovery
many thanks
I also am curious about this topic
snap213 said:
hello, i need to verify something with you guys.
Currently i'm using an HTC One M8 rooted and running on a stock rom, and TWRP as a recovery, can i still have OTA updates in my phone even if I'm on root and TWRP as a recovery. also one thing how can go remove TWRP recovery or revert to HTC recovery
many thanks
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1. Download the stock recovery for your device from the recovery thread
2. Flash it through fastboot (as you did TWRP)
3. Apply the OTA
4. Reflash TWRP
5. Re-root the phone
guess i'm stuck with my rooted phone then, i rooted my phone using Hansoon2000 All-In-One-Kit
and i can't find my stock rom, my software number is 1.54.707.7
snap213 said:
guess i'm stuck with my rooted phone then, i rooted my phone using Hansoon2000 All-In-One-Kit
and i can't find my stock rom, my software number is 1.54.707.7
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Not stock rom...stock recovery
Look at the bottom of the first post of mr_hofs thread in the general section here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
You'll find your stock recovery there ?
Hope that helps.
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Look at the bottom of the first post of mr_hofs thread in the general section here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376 (under the nandroid backups section)
You'll find your stock recovery there ?
Hope that helps.
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Remember (as said a million times already in multiple threads) - to flash an OTA you CANNOT have changed anything in the original system (fonts, Xposed mods, removing system apps, ANYTHING) otherwise the OTA WILL FAIL
i've browse mr.hofs thread and i've seen lots of stock recoveries. I don't know which stock recovery will I use.
I tried to match it using my software number 1.54.707.7 but there is none. or should i just try the closer to that version?
also another question? can i flash my stock recovery using Hasoon2000's AIO Toolkit? i see here on the left box it's says your own recovery.
thanks.
snap213 said:
i've browse mr.hofs thread and i've seen lots of stock recoveries. I don't know which stock recovery will I use.
I tried to match it using my software number 1.54.707.7 but there is none. or should i just try the closer to that version?
also another question? can i flash my stock recovery using Hasoon2000's AIO Toolkit? i see here on the left box it's says your own recovery.
thanks.
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here is my recovery backup from 1.54.707.7. https://www.dropbox.com/s/p2ht9dxns3ggcyk/recovery.img
Can you backup your radio.img for me? I forgot to backup when i convert my phone to GPE.
to any Hasoons2000's users out there?
also another question? can i flash my stock recovery using Hasoon2000's AIO Toolkit? i see here on the left box it's says your own recovery.
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or can anyone give me a much more detailed or step by step instructions, i know i' cant post in HTC development forum.
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to any Hasoons2000's users out there?
also another question? can i flash my stock recovery using Hasoon2000's AIO Toolkit? i see here on the left box it's says your own recovery.
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or can anyone give me a much more detailed or step by step instructions, i know i' cant post in HTC development forum.
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Yes, you can! I did it exactly that way - and after OTA update reflashed TWRP and rerouted that way. Its a 4 minute job.
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to any Hasoons2000's users out there?
also another question? can i flash my stock recovery using Hasoon2000's AIO Toolkit? i see here on the left box it's says your own recovery.
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or can anyone give me a much more detailed or step by step instructions, i know i' cant post in HTC development forum.
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Learn to do it yourself, relying on toolkits is a false economy as if anything goes wrong you'll have no idea how to fix it...
EddyOS said:
Remember (as said a million times already in multiple threads) - to flash an OTA you CANNOT have changed anything in the original system (fonts, Xposed mods, removing system apps, ANYTHING) otherwise the OTA WILL FAIL
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Yes, that has been mentioned quite a few times in various threads..However one question that pops up now is:
Lets says I did make changes to the system files by removing a system app or using xposed mods (but not flashing any custom roms). But these changes were made AFTER taking a backup of (unchanged) stock recovery. Will OTA still fail if i now flash stock recovery and then ota update? I am guessing it should work as i am bringing the phone back to stock status.
Also what if i do not flash any custom recovery, I just boot into it to take a backup and remain in stock rom. In that case, for an OTA update, do i still need to first flash stock recovery if I have not made changes to sys files?
Finally when you say OTA fail, does that mean there is a chance I will brick/soft brick my phone?or is it just an error message. I ask because in case i make changes to sys and then forget about it or do not realise its consequence for an OTA update, its better I know now what I am getting into.
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Yes, that has been mentioned quite a few times in various threads..However one question that pops up now is:
Lets says I did make changes to the system files by removing a system app or using xposed mods (but not flashing any custom roms). But these changes were made AFTER taking a backup of (unchanged) stock recovery. Will OTA still fail if i now flash stock recovery and then ota update? I am guessing it should work as i am bringing the phone back to stock status.
Also what if i do not flash any custom recovery, I just boot into it to take a backup and remain in stock rom. In that case, for an OTA update, do i still need to first flash stock recovery if I have not made changes to sys files?
Finally when you say OTA fail, does that mean there is a chance I will brick/soft brick my phone?or is it just an error message. I ask because in case i make changes to sys and then forget about it or do not realise its consequence for an OTA update, its better I know now what I am getting into.
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The OTA requires a 100% stock running Android build, so if you have removed any system apps it will just fail and reboot to the ROM you're running at the moment (so you should be safe). Basically, if the /system partition on the phone is ANY way different from how it was when you first bought it the OTA will fail
For example, other than S-OFF my phone is exactly how I received it, therefore the new OTA update installed successfully. If I had removed one system app (e.g. Hangouts), it would fail as it's looking for it and if it can't find it it'll just reboot
i still have my S-OFF here in my HTC, and i haven't removed any system apps. i'll try this later this week.
i just needed my root because of setCPU nothing else.
--- anyway, since we're all learning here.
we'll for example, OTA has been updated and all goes well. now that i have to reflash my recovery to TWRP.
big question again, how do i save my stock recovery using TWRP?
snap213 said:
i still have my S-OFF here in my HTC, and i haven't removed any system apps. i'll try this later this week.
i just needed my root because of setCPU nothing else.
--- anyway, since we're all learning here.
we'll for example, OTA has been updated and all goes well. now that i have to reflash my recovery to TWRP.
big question again, how do i save my stock recovery using TWRP?
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If you're now on 1.54.401.10, you can manually extract it from the firmware package I uploaded HERE
I installed the OTA yesterday and had a different experience. I am with the stock rooted ROM, but I installed Xposed with some modules and the swipe to sleep and no write protection kernel modules. Also, unlocking the bootloader also ate my calculator and torch apps, and I reinstalled them as user apps instead of system apps.
Well, after flashing the stock recovery, the OTA worked like a charm. I applied it manually from the stock recovery, but I don't think this makes a difference. I had to re-root afterwards, but all the rest was preserved.
I am S-OFF though. Is that the reason why it bypassed some security checks?
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I installed the OTA yesterday and had a different experience. I am with the stock rooted ROM, but I installed Xposed with some modules and the swipe to sleep and no write protection kernel modules. Also, unlocking the bootloader also ate my calculator and torch apps, and I reinstalled them as user apps instead of system apps.
Well, after flashing the stock recovery, the OTA worked like a charm. I applied it manually from the stock recovery, but I don't think this makes a difference. I had to re-root afterwards, but all the rest was preserved.
I am S-OFF though. Is that the reason why it bypassed some security checks?
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I can see the apps that were removed during unlocking still working if installed as user apps as they're still on the /data partition. If they weren't there at all then it'd probably fail. Surprised that it worked with Xposed installed, but that's also a user app so it could very well work - logically it makes sense.
As a rule of thumb I'd only apply an OTA on a 100% stock system, that way you know it'll all be fine
Hi guys, i bought an m8. But have some problems. As 4.4 kitkat removes a lot of sdcard functionality, i want to root the device and get it back.
1.will i get ota updates while on stock rom, rooted, unlocked bootloader and s-off?
2. What is the best way to preserve stock recovery, specific to my device?
3.if i do get ota updates, will the update break my root? Or will the update and root clash?
4. My main goal is to get that sd card funtionality back, so if i get ota updates do i have to revert the changes?
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tahsin511 said:
Hi guys, i bought an m8. But have some problems. As 4.4 kitkat removes a lot of sdcard functionality, i want to root the device and get it back.
1.will i get ota updates while on stock rom, rooted, unlocked bootloader and s-off?
2. What is the best way to preserve stock recovery, specific to my device?
3.if i do get ota updates, will the update break my root? Or will the update and root clash?
4. My main goal is to get that sd card funtionality back, so if i get ota updates do i have to revert the changes?
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1. As long as you have stock recovery, you should be able to get OTA updates. I'm not sure you'll be able to keep your root though.
2. There are plenty of stock recovery dumps around these threads. Look around and you'll find them. Either that or dump it yourself.
3. That is hard to say. I've seen it happen both ways across different devices. You can try to preserve root via SuperSU, but there's no guarantee this will work. The worst that could happen is the OTA getting rid of root, in which case you could always root again.
4. The next OTA you'll get will most likely be Lollipop. From what I've heard, it actually brings back a lot of SD card write functionality that KitKat killed. So it will most likely overwrite your changes.
Right, thanks. Also is there some way i can copy my recovery for backup?
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Google gives me this. I've never done this myself so please proceed with caution. I highly recommend just grabbing an already dumped recovery if you haven't done this before. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2450045
Ok ill see to that, also one final question. If i install a stock rom from another region (which got the lollipop update), will i continue to receive ota updates on my phone using that rom?
Also what is a RUU?
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An RUU is a program which essentially wipes your phone and sets it to stock. As for flashing a Lollipop ROM from another region, you'd have to confirm that your phone would work fine with ROM. Worst thing that can happen is a soft brick I suppose. It's worth a try. Be warned you may run into issues.
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Ok ill see to that, also one final question. If i install a stock rom from another region (which got the lollipop update), will i continue to receive ota updates on my phone using that rom?
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No, you won't. The ROM has to be stock, and match the software for your CID & MID.
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Also what is a RUU?
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RUU = ROM update utility
Its a complete factory image. Usually comes as a Windows executable (so PC required). You relock your bootloader (if s-on, not needed for s-off), and just run the RUU with phone connected to PC, and the RUU will write the phone back to stock. Its a pretty easy way to return to stock, if RUU is available for your carrier/region version.
Also, RUU needs to be same or equal version hboot, etc. than what is on the phone (no "downgrading" allowed unless you are s-off).
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Right, thanks. Also is there some way i can copy my recovery for backup?
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After you unlock the bootloader, but before you flash custom recovery, you can fastboot boot into TWRP (not flash it yet), then use TWRP to create a backup of your recovery partition.
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tahsin511 said:
1.will i get ota updates while on stock rom, rooted, unlocked bootloader and s-off?
2. What is the best way to preserve stock recovery, specific to my device?
3.if i do get ota updates, will the update break my root? Or will the update and root clash?
4. My main goal is to get that sd card funtionality back, so if i get ota updates do i have to revert the changes?
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1. You need stock ROM (nothing that you deleted or modified in the /system partition aside from just root) and stock recovery. Root is okay, unlocked bootloader is s-off is okay (to OTA). But you will likely lose root after you OTA (just install custom recovery again, and re-root).
2) Backup stock recovery as I indicated above, or find the right stock recovery here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
You may also be able to find the right stock ROM for your CID and software number, if you need it.
3) Already answered in Item #1 above.
4) I forget what the SD card fix entails. If it modifies anything in /system, you will need to make it stock again to OTA. Or if you flash a stock ROM, it will also probably revert the SD fix. After an OTA, yes I believe you would need to apply the fix again.