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This is really starting to aggravate me.
One being that we don't have Froyo yet and I can't install a bunch of apps all of sudden cause they're 2.2 only.
Two and most important is that devs are making 2.2 apps only and not making them backwards compatible. Has Froyo changed from 2.1 that drastically that the apps can't handle both OS's?
If they use stuff that is only in froyo, then you can't use them.
Soon froyo will be out and there is jpk that working fine. So you have to flash utter or wait.
If you need it so bad for 2.1 then contact the developer and ask him. Maby give him some money for his time.
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What about those who are stuck with 2.1 for while, I know my options but it's not good business IMO. It would be reasonable for 1.x to be coded out but 2.1 is still very prevalent.
If it's a paid for app, I'm sure they'll try and cater for the market, especially when you're going to be paying for the app. If it's a free app, then you'll have to pay them for their time to make it backwards compatible.
They're just future proofing. Instead of writing something for 2.1, they're going to write it in 2.2 and won't have to update it for another year or so.
Well its up to the developer.
I understand why they don't want to support older firmware, when they do stuff for the new one.
Have you paid for the app?
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Have you paid for the app?
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I posted this up just for a general discussion, I can't even see 2.2 only apps in my market but I have run into a bunch that I would like to buy but can't for obvious reasons. The question is what's going to happen when 2.2.1 comes out, or 2.3 etc. It took a while for the appstore to adapt to backwards comp and it's even more important now that iOS 4 can't be installed on older devices. Hopefully those with not so well supported phones won't suffer. It will be always be a small market that's negatively effected but I think for the over all health of the market it would be nice if some effort was given to backwards comp.
I agree dotty, for a free app you can't expect the dev to put in countless hours for nothing in return, then again, ads do make $$ as well.
I know nothing of how different 2.2 is under the hood and I guess this may be the underlying cause.
Well i think it's still up to the developer. If you want the program in a different firmware i guess he will make it if you pay him for the work.
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Anyone tried it yet?
Saw there's lots of APK's out there already to install it - tried it on unrooted, latest unbranded firmware and working ok - looks different, but seems to be fairly similar...
http://www.google.co.uk/search?sour...roid+market+2.2.6&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=
I think most of the update though is for behind-the-scenes stuff - like the refund timer of 15 mins rather than 24 hr, apk size limit increased etc.
Out of interest, does anyone know how this would get rolled out normally? Does the market update itself? as you can't search for it in the market...
AFAIK, it only works on Froyo for now.
Yep....only for devices running 2.2......if only i did'nt have CyanogenMod i would have installed it.......hmmmm seems it has only a 15 minute refund window
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Yep....only for devices running 2.2......if only i did'nt have CyanogenMod i would have installed it.......hmmmm seems it has only a 15 minute refund window
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CyanogenMod is 2.2 (well 2.2.1, but I thought it would work on that too?).
Yes I tried. It works on my desire very well. Smoothly. Give us some beautiful weight.
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I read the google blog thing that it was designed and will be rolled out for all devices 1.6+
Not too sure about the big green banner along the top- looks like a bit of a waste of space to me... also I thought there were new categories for widgets and live wallpapers?
Got it on my Desire and it works great for me. I think its a great improvement. Running a stock WWE ROM here. There's more info and download links here http://www.eurodroid.com/2010/12/new-android-market-includes-support-for-tablet-displays/
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I too couldn't wait for the official roll-out. Downloaded t'd apk, works a treat. I prefer to the old market
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Would be nice if you could switch between the old and the new market
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Is the change on the update window based on your market version?
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Banner is great IMHO for the starting page but not on each app page. Wasted large banner space at the top and in large areas, fonts and padding dedicated for your review/similar sections (poor screen estate efficiency). They should shrink that all down, especially the font. Smoother UI and better in some respects but I preferred tabs much more (for sections I rarely use) as well as the fact that I can't manually stop/restart installs on this version anymore, like I was forced to do with previous versions due to recurring buggy market installs that get stuck.
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Hey guys just read that one v is PlayStation certified
what's the advantages of this as HTC rarely does anything for one v guys we must discuss it
whoa!! nice still if ur rooted any phone can have it PPP
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whoa!! nice still if ur rooted any phone can have it PPP
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The official Sony Playstation site tells a slightly different story,
The One X, S, and the rest will have the playstation app included in the jellybean update. Or to quote Sony "Playstation support on HTC phones is rolling out with Android 4.1 and above upgrades, timing of which is subject to regional and operator circumstances"
It specifically calls out the One V as "playstation support will arrive as part of a larger update, details to be announced later on".
So, obviously HTC has informed Sony the One V is NOT getting jelly bean as this new update is well, new.
I am hoping the "larger update" will include a newer version of sense for us, or a "value pack" but who knows. We could also see HTC decide it was a mistake including the One V and ask Sony to quietly remove it from the list of certified devices.
When the update comes, you will have two new icons in the app drawer. The "PSM" icon and a "let's start PSM" which will help you set up a playstation account if you don't already have one.
Yes, there are "hacks" to make it work on any rooted device, but seeing as we have a playstation certified device we will not have to worry about manually updating the darn thing all the time.
All this info is available on the Sony site guys, and is being updated continually. I do not have any kind of inside info, I just know how to use google!!!!
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PlayStation App. Been using it for a couple weeks now. It works fine, although I DIDNT buy anything yet. I'm using the mod from Development section.
Guys what is the advantage on other phones on being PlayStation certified
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Guys what is the advantage on other phones on being PlayStation certified
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Well, easy........updates.
It's like getting google now on an ICS ROM with flashable zips. Your version is as current as the version the zip was based on. When google brings out new features, you have to wait for a new zip, and flash again when or if it becomes available. Kinda, but not really like "pirating" an app. Updates depend on someone other than the first party. Being "playstation certified" means, when Sony chooses to update the PSM app (done twice already) certified phones will recieve the update right away, phones with modded versions will have to wait for the dev to re-mod the app, or,worse....an update could close the hack used to install it on non-certified devices. This is something we will not have to worry about.
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Looks like it's rolling out overseas.
http://gotta-be-mobile.blogspot.com/2014/01/htc-one-android-442-kitkat-update-lands.html?m=1
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Looks like it's rolling out overseas.
http://gotta-be-mobile.blogspot.com/2014/01/htc-one-android-442-kitkat-update-lands.html?m=1
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The HTC site shows all carriers in the integration phase...after that comes certification...I'm guessing it will still be awhile.
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They delayed the update till February so don't expect anything for a few weeks.
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We've got eclipse 4.4.... what do we need official for... Lol.
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We've got eclipse 4.4.... what do we need official for... Lol.
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Unless HTC killed your fun.
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Don't expect 4.4 anytime soon because of Verizon.
I'd be surprised if they released it before March. They're always missing target dates, especially with Verizon.
Just get VipperOne 4.4kk / 5.5 Sense, everything you could EVER imagine baked in. Best rom for m7vzw hands down. Try it. I've loaded most of the roms available for this phone, and this one blows everything else out of the water.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2590358
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Just get VipperOne 4.4kk / 5.5 Sense, everything you could EVER imagine baked in. Best rom for m7vzw hands down. Try it. I've loaded most of the roms available for this phone, and this one blows everything else out of the water.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2590358
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I don't understand why I would want all the extra stuff that is baked into ViperOne. Seeing that long list of "features" looks an aweful lot like bloatware to the uninitiated, like me. Right now I'm running TikTak which is pretty much stock Kit Kat. Would ViperOne suite the casual user, like me, better? Why?
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I don't understand why I would want all the extra stuff that is baked into ViperOne. Seeing that long list of "features" looks an aweful lot like bloatware to the uninitiated, like me. Right now I'm running TikTak which is pretty much stock Kit Kat. Would ViperOne suite the casual user, like me, better? Why?
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Bloatware are apps you do not want. ViperOne allows you to not install any app that is packed with it during the install process.
The extra features you are talking about are all part of one app, Venom Tweaks. Which allows you to customize everything from kernel settings to the color of your notifications, screen layout sizes, really too much to list. But that is all contained inside of one app.
It also allows you to install entire custom themes, through Venom Hub.
There isn't really any bloatware at all added to the Rom, and it allows you to leave out anything you do not want during install. Like I remove HTC stocks, picasa, kid mode etc......all during the install from recovery. I would just recommend trying it if you own an htc one. I've run a crap ton of roms since i got my One, and i swear by it. Leaps and bounds beyond everything else I've run. And the Venom team is constantly updating with new features, and new mods are constantly being added to the Hub. Also comes with VenomSU baked in.
I'm running ViperOne 4.3.0, the newest Philz Touch CWM for m7vzw, and LunarX kernel for tap2wake and cpu tweaks. Love it.
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Bloatware are apps you do not want. ViperOne allows you to not install any app that is packed with it during the install process.
The extra features you are talking about are all part of one app, Venom Tweaks. Which allows you to customize everything from kernel settings to the color of your notifications, screen layout sizes, really too much to list. But that is all contained inside of one app.
It also allows you to install entire custom themes, through Venom Hub.
There isn't really any bloatware at all added to the Rom, and it allows you to leave out anything you do not want during install. Like I remove HTC stocks, picasa, kid mode etc......all during the install from recovery. I would just recommend trying it if you own an htc one. I've run a crap ton of roms since i got my One, and i swear by it. Leaps and bounds beyond everything else I've run. And the Venom team is constantly updating with new features, and new mods are constantly being added to the Hub. Also comes with VenomSU baked in.
I'm running ViperOne 4.3.0, the newest Philz Touch CWM for m7vzw, and LunarX kernel for tap2wake and cpu tweaks. Love it.
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Are you still able to use Zoe and the Sense gallery with ViperOne?
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Yes. Both work as it is a sense ROM.
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The HTC site shows all carriers in the integration phase...after that comes certification...I'm guessing it will still be awhile.
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Four major carriers are now in certification stage. Might actually hit deadline this time.
Lets hope..
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It would be unprecedented for Verizon to update at the same time as other carriers. I don't expect our phones to make the Wednesday deadline.
Verizon might be changing though.....They were the first U.S. carrier to put out 4.3 on the GS4
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Verizon might be changing though.....They were the first U.S. carrier to put out 4.3 on the GS4
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And the first to put 4.4 on the Moto X
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Leraeniesh said:
They delayed the update till February so don't expect anything for a few weeks.
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Kitkat 4.4 is now in Finland. I am just installing it.
After all those articles saying this week
Engadget is reporting the update is now a couple of weeks away Certification process is taking longer than expected.
ugh - I'm too much of a noob to be allowed to post url
I have to say - this is one thing Apple got right - skip the carriers. (OK they got many things right - just wish Google was able to follow Apple's footsteps as far as OS updates)
You might be saying "why don't I root and use one of the kitkat ROMS available today" well it's simple. I just got notified by my place of work that rooted phones won't be allowed on the network I have no choice (at least if I want my phone to get corporate mail).
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Engadget is reporting the update is now a couple of weeks away Certification process is taking longer than expected.
ugh - I'm too much of a noob to be allowed to post url
I have to say - this is one thing Apple got right - skip the carriers. (OK they got many things right - just wish Google was able to follow Apple's footsteps as far as OS updates)
You might be saying "why don't I root and use one of the kitkat ROMS available today" well it's simple. I just got notified by my place of work that rooted phones won't be allowed on the network I have no choice (at least if I want my phone to get corporate mail).
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http://www.htc.com/us/go/president-letter/
What a surprise... Not.
Hi there!
As far as U have seen, HTC 10 is a hyge hardware device but it comes with only standard Google apps pre-installed. So HTC Sense interface is basically disappeared from the phone.
Considering how much better HTC apps are compared to Google standard apps, it's a huge shame having such a great phone on hardware level running on standard google base system. People have always had hate for custom interface but they don't know what are they saying if they consider everything as a third-party apps, the evil. There are 2 different situations, one thing is customisation of network operator which install useless and buggy application, another thing is manufacturer applications, which in the case of HTC, have always been better than the standard Google applications since the beginning of android. So having no HTC apps on the sense 8 is a great loss. My question is: it will still possible to install all HTC apps on the play store of sense interface on the new sense 8?
By the way I have an HTC One M9+ Supreme Camera and I'm currenlty on sense 7 and android 5, well if sense 8 will be with google standard apps only, I hope that the update to Android 6.0 for my device will keep sense 7.0 interface. I want to use HTC apps.
I think this is a welcomed change. Simpler, faster updates, faster phone... But I do think I saw somewhere that you could install the applications from the play store. Worst case just port them over, there are so many mods that allows you to port to other phones I bet it would be easy to move it over to the 10.
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I think this is a welcomed change. Simpler, faster updates, faster phone... But I do think I saw somewhere that you could install the applications from the play store. Worst case just port them over, there are so many mods that allows you to port to other phones I bet it would be easy to move it over to the 10.
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I think that if you go looking to the quality of HTC apps compared to standard google apps, there is no match. If someone want a standard and free Android interface, then buy a nexus phone which is excellent. If I buy an HTC, I want a customized Android experience, at least this is my opinion. Having to struggle with MOD it's second hand option and also if HTC won't develop its apps in the future it would be impossible to do.
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I think that if you go looking to the quality of HTC apps compared to standard google apps, there is no match. If someone want a standard and free Android interface, then buy a nexus phone which is excellent. If I buy an HTC, I want a customized Android experience, at least this is my opinion. Having to struggle with MOD it's second hand option and also if HTC won't develop its apps in the future it would be impossible to do.
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That's your opinion, I see very little to no difference. If this is a deal breaker for you, protest... and buy from LG or samsung. I find the google versions are more than adequate for all I need. I love that more manufacturers are going to this style, faster updates and a more streamline approach. They can add their best features to the device and keep it fast. Give it time before you protest them, you may like the change. If not you have 14 days
Well, on HTC One M8 running HTC 10 ported ROM I could easily download all the missing HTC apps from the Play Store. So, no actual difference from Sense 7 roms.
Maybe on the real HTC 10 your experience will be different.
you know if you have the apks of the older apps you can still install them right?
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you know if you have the apks of the older apps you can still install them right?
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I suppose that it depends...if the apps has been ported to the current version of Android... and this is something that HTC have to do.
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That's your opinion, I see very little to no difference. If this is a deal breaker for you, protest... and buy from LG or samsung. I find the google versions are more than adequate for all I need. I love that more manufacturers are going to this style, faster updates and a more streamline approach. They can add their best features to the device and keep it fast. Give it time before you protest them, you may like the change. If not you have 14 days
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Yes it's my opinin but I still think that if you want standard google interface you can buy a Nexus or maybe HTC can realese the Google edition phone like it did in the past.
By the way I have recently swtich from an HTC One S with sense 4 to an HTC One M9+ Supreme Camera and sense 7 (also blinkfeed is nice) but I do miss some widgets from HTC (like gallery widget, bookmark widget and colored meteo widget).
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I suppose that it depends...if the apps has been ported to the current version of Android... and this is something that HTC have to do.
Yes it's my opinin but I still think that if you want standard google interface you can buy a Nexus or maybe HTC can realese the Google edition phone like it did in the past.
By the way I have recently swtich from an HTC One S with sense 4 to an HTC One M9+ Supreme Camera and sense 7 (also blinkfeed is nice) but I do miss some widgets from HTC (like gallery widget, bookmark widget and colored meteo widget).
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It was a business decision and sadly if you hate it then you'll have to keep you M9 or buy something else. Some of us are excited about it and who knows you may grow to love it. Or maybe they will regret it and put it back in an update.
As far as some reviews said it will still be possible to download all HTC Apps from PlayStore and thus install them on the new HTC 10. In fact it is wrong that they are better than the respective Google Apps, as they are just GUI modded Google Apps.
Only App I wouldn't download is HTC Gallery App, as I read that it interferes with the new HTC Camera App, as the later one has been optimized to work with Google Pictures App.
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As far as some reviews said it will still be possible to download all HTC Apps from PlayStore and thus install them on the new HTC 10. In fact it is wrong that they are better than the respective Google Apps, as they are just GUI modded Google Apps.
Only App I wouldn't download is HTC Gallery App, as I read that it interferes with the new HTC Camera App, as the later one has been optimized to work with Google Pictures App.
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I don't understand people sometimes. This information has been a talking point of almost every general review of the new phone. It took OP longer to ask here and wait for an answer then to just Google it! Save yourself some time and Google it first.
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As far as some reviews said it will still be possible to download all HTC Apps from PlayStore and thus install them on the new HTC 10. In fact it is wrong that they are better than the respective Google Apps, as they are just GUI modded Google Apps.
Only App I wouldn't download is HTC Gallery App, as I read that it interferes with the new HTC Camera App, as the later one has been optimized to work with Google Pictures App.
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Google Photos, in my opinion, is only good for photo editing. A standalone gallery is sorely missing from Android. Hell, I still use a pre-CM owned version of QuickPic instead of Google Photos.