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Why the lack of development for the Continuum?

I really think the phone has unexplored potential and its puzzling to see it neglected. Im also wondering if there is a way to improve the standalone GPS performance on this rig.

Where you would think the ticker would increase development, it has in fact slowed it.
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We are at a freeze... Why do work on a soon to be outdated system when 2.2 its coming within the next month
What I suggest? I suggest emailing, calling, faxing, and whatever else to the main man HIMSELF...
ask Samsung if they can incorporate these features...
All of us have to do it though if we want anything done xP
I personally would want the ticker to lock itself when typing, because I constantly hit the weather icon xP
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adrynalyne and imnuts have the phone...however as trailblazer said theres little point in putting significant time into 2.1 with 2.2 (theoretically) due any time
not that its the same as roms/kernels obviously...but i gave up updated the gb theme until 2.2 comes out

trailblazer101 said:
We are at a freeze... Why do work on a soon to be outdated system when 2.2 its coming within the next month
What I suggest? I suggest emailing, calling, faxing, and whatever else to the main man HIMSELF...
ask Samsung if they can incorporate these features...
All of us have to do it though if we want anything done xP
I personally would want the ticker to lock itself when typing, because I constantly hit the weather icon xP
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i do too, i always open the rss feed

I check this place every day looking for new stuff I understand that 2.2 should be coming out soon why not throw us a bone untill then mabey a way to add a animation screen or something to play with till 2.2 comes out
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tazzstrike said:
I check this place every day looking for new stuff I understand that 2.2 should be coming out soon why not throw us a bone untill then mabey a way to add a animation screen or something to play with till 2.2 comes out
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I'm busy with real life stuff, and among other things, and not everything is simple to do. My kernel source is on Github, feel free to download it and add in whatever you want. Submit a pull request and I'll add it into my tree then. https://github.com/imnuts

would it be correct to assume that once 2.2 comes out, more ROM's and whatnot will come out and developers will start working on this phone some more?

ntien said:
would it be correct to assume that once 2.2 comes out, more ROM's and whatnot will come out and developers will start working on this phone some more?
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Yes and no. I doubt it will have the number of ROMs available that the Fascinate or most of the HTC phones have, but there will be more stuff going on. It's mostly pointless putting a ton of effort into Eclair stuff now when 2.1 is all but done, and the update is likely less than a month away.

^^^ this
but i think realistic expectations once froyo goes out is a clean/debloated rom with adryns tweaks, voodoo kernels from imnuts
and reboot options, a few themes, aosp lockscreen, remove clock from status bar mods, etc

Will the official update be an OTA update?

Yes, that's how Verizon rolls...

so...
its obvious now that samsung nor verizon have any interest in updating this phone. will people begin developing roms for it? or has everyone in fact returned or sold their phone. cause if so then why this phone listed on xda?

Verizon has not declared end of life on this phone. We will get the Froyo update and likely get Gingerbread as well.

Un-Rooted, And Holding Off Until The Update...

Had my SGSII for about 3 months now. Rooted the 1st week I brought it home. I've been flashing ROMs left and right, trying to find that certain one that best fits my lifestyle.
I've landed on the Darkside, and found my flavor there.
Because of "all this talk" about ICS, and only going (OTA) to unlocked un-rooted phones. I've successfully un-rooted, and went back to stock.
With all the benefits of having a phone rooted (nandroid backup, uninstalling bloatware), i ended up asking myself "WHY". Why do I really need to be rooted. The only time i ever do a nandroid backup is when I flash a new ROM. After much consideration, I ended realizing that the ONLY main reason I want my phone rooted is to re-place the Gmail.apk in the system's folder to a modded Gmail.apk - so I can put my unread count widget on my home screen.
Yeah yeah yeah.. i know there is a apk in the market named "Google Unread Count 2.0", but it doesn't read your unread count email in real-time. It takes a few minutes for the widget to update.
Other, than that there really is no pressing reason to have my phone rooted.
Now for the OTA update waiting game..

lawalty said:
Had my SGSII for about 3 months now. Rooted the 1st week I brought it home. I've been flashing ROMs left and right, trying to find that certain one that best fits my lifestyle.
I've landed on the Darkside, and found my flavor there.
Because of "all this talk" about ICS, and only going (OTA) to unlocked un-rooted phones. I've successfully un-rooted, and went back to stock.
With all the benefits of having a phone rooted (nandroid backup, uninstalling bloatware), i ended up asking myself "WHY". Why do I really need to be rooted. The only time i ever do a nandroid backup is when I flash a new ROM. After much consideration, I ended realizing that the ONLY main reason I want my phone rooted is to re-place the Gmail.apk in the system's folder to a modded Gmail.apk - so I can put my unread count widget on my home screen.
Yeah yeah yeah.. i know there is a apk in the market named "Google Unread Count 2.0", but it doesn't read your unread count email in real-time. It takes a few minutes for the widget to update.
Other, than that there really is no pressing reason to have my phone rooted.
Now for the OTA update waiting game..
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Why not?... yet better question.

lawalty said:
Had my SGSII for about 3 months now. Rooted the 1st week I brought it home. I've been flashing ROMs left and right, trying to find that certain one that best fits my lifestyle.
I've landed on the Darkside, and found my flavor there.
Because of "all this talk" about ICS, and only going (OTA) to unlocked un-rooted phones. I've successfully un-rooted, and went back to stock.
With all the benefits of having a phone rooted (nandroid backup, uninstalling bloatware), i ended up asking myself "WHY". Why do I really need to be rooted. The only time i ever do a nandroid backup is when I flash a new ROM. After much consideration, I ended realizing that the ONLY main reason I want my phone rooted is to re-place the Gmail.apk in the system's folder to a modded Gmail.apk - so I can put my unread count widget on my home screen.
Yeah yeah yeah.. i know there is a apk in the market named "Google Unread Count 2.0", but it doesn't read your unread count email in real-time. It takes a few minutes for the widget to update.
Other, than that there really is no pressing reason to have my phone rooted.
Now for the OTA update waiting game..
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To each their own but there are many more reasons to root other than a Gmail.apk. If your waiting on an OTA ICS update you will be waiting awhile longer. But again to each their own.
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lawalty said:
Had my SGSII for about 3 months now. Rooted the 1st week I brought it home. I've been flashing ROMs left and right, trying to find that certain one that best fits my lifestyle.
I've landed on the Darkside, and found my flavor there.
Because of "all this talk" about ICS, and only going (OTA) to unlocked un-rooted phones. I've successfully un-rooted, and went back to stock.
With all the benefits of having a phone rooted (nandroid backup, uninstalling bloatware), i ended up asking myself "WHY". Why do I really need to be rooted. The only time i ever do a nandroid backup is when I flash a new ROM. After much consideration, I ended realizing that the ONLY main reason I want my phone rooted is to re-place the Gmail.apk in the system's folder to a modded Gmail.apk - so I can put my unread count widget on my home screen.
Yeah yeah yeah.. i know there is a apk in the market named "Google Unread Count 2.0", but it doesn't read your unread count email in real-time. It takes a few minutes for the widget to update.
Other, than that there really is no pressing reason to have my phone rooted.
Now for the OTA update waiting game..
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Gonna be a loooooooooong wait my friend.
Btw, I can't imagine android without root, (rooted since the g1).
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Nothing wrong with stock...stable, fairly fast. But don't hold your breath for ICS...
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I find it amusing that the only justifiable reason for you to root is a modded gmail
There are so many reasons to root it's not even a question of "why".
How about Carrier IQ? Or full control over Theming? Custom Kernels, build.prop, CWM Touch Recovery? You can't be serious about a gmail notification being the sole reason for rooting.
Oh and btw, if you haven't learned this yet, you may want to pay attention:
Once the update starts rolling out to the general public, the official version will be leaked on xda and you will be able to flash through CWM. I'm sure within days there will also be a rooted stock version as well. This will be well BEFORE you get the OTA.
So, if you want to give up control of your device just to wait longer for something that hasn't even officially been announced yet, more power to you. Say hi to Carrier IQ for me

u not the only I haven't rooted my sgs2 yet, waiting on the official ics update.

What is the point of this thread? Who cares if you root or not.

MrKnitty said:
u not the only I haven't rooted my sgs2 yet, waiting on the official ics update.
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Who said it's even coming to your phone, just because Samsung said it's now being sent OTA does NOT mean you will get it. The fact that you have a carrier branded phone means that Tmobile will get it's hands on it first then do it's wonderful (sarcasm) magic and bloat it with there apps like Tmobile TV and so on. Then IF they choose to make it available they will send it there's NO time frame on that. All I have to do it's point out the Tmobile's version of the Samsung Galaxy S, the Vibrant, which NEVER got Gingerbread like the other Galaxy S phone that did. Samsung announced and released an OTA for the Galaxy S but Tmobile in there infinite wisdom chose NOT to release it to the Vibrant. So just because Samsung announced and is sending a OTA ICS does NOT mean you're going to get it. You will have to WAIT for your carrier IF and when they announce it, PERIOD!

Though it may only he available to stock unrooted users, its often a matter of a few days to get an rooted stock rom up so thats not an issue for me
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iLeopard said:
Though it may only he available to stock unrooted users, its often a matter of a few days to get an rooted stock rom up so thats not an issue for me
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You should read the thread before posting...someone already said what you said.
"Once the update starts rolling out to the general public, the official version will be leaked on xda and you will be able to flash through CWM. I'm sure within days there will also be a rooted stock version as well. This will be well BEFORE you get the OTA."

ingenious247 said:
I find it amusing that the only justifiable reason for you to root is a modded gmail
There are so many reasons to root it's not even a question of "why".
How about Carrier IQ? Or full control over Theming? Custom Kernels, build.prop, CWM Touch Recovery? You can't be serious about a gmail notification being the sole reason for rooting.
Oh and btw, if you haven't learned this yet, you may want to pay attention:
Once the update starts rolling out to the general public, the official version will be leaked on xda and you will be able to flash through CWM. I'm sure within days there will also be a rooted stock version as well. This will be well BEFORE you get the OTA.
So, if you want to give up control of your device just to wait longer for something that hasn't even officially been announced yet, more power to you. Say hi to Carrier IQ for me
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Within hours there will be a stock Deodexed rooted tar and CWM zip.. I know this because I'm going to be doing it lol. Have my ics working folder ready to rock.
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Wtf... This guy trying to make a documentary of his personal phone desires..as said previously who cares what you decide to do with your phone...we don't need to be informed your un rooting and waiting... If that's what you choose do be it but y in the hell would you think we need to know, or much less care
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personally, i like the ability to get into the rooted side of es file explorer to modify the build prop, change lcd density, insert init.d script edit for better battery life. hell, how about undervolting the kernel with oc apps to get upwards of 24 hours out of a single charge? also, while the tmo roms are good, they cant hold a candle to the 2.3.5 roms from ATT...i dont know what it is but those roms run like a dream on this snapdragon soc.
final thought - I love tmo, dont get me wrong, but if you think that tmo will be the first to get ics ota then maybe you know something i dont. considering that, i hypothesize that ics (or even cm9) will be available for flashy goodness long before its ever beamed to our phones.

ingenious247 said:
I find it amusing that the only justifiable reason for you to root is a modded gmail
There are so many reasons to root it's not even a question of "why".
How about Carrier IQ? Or full control over Theming? Custom Kernels, build.prop, CWM Touch Recovery? You can't be serious about a gmail notification being the sole reason for rooting.
Oh and btw, if you haven't learned this yet, you may want to pay attention:
Once the update starts rolling out to the general public, the official version will be leaked on xda and you will be able to flash through CWM. I'm sure within days there will also be a rooted stock version as well. This will be well BEFORE you get the OTA.
So, if you want to give up control of your device just to wait longer for something that hasn't even officially been announced yet, more power to you. Say hi to Carrier IQ for me
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Very good point.. I forgot about the Carrier IQ.
cbinvb said:
personally, i like the ability to get into the rooted side of es file explorer to modify the build prop, change lcd density, insert init.d script edit for better battery life. hell, how about undervolting the kernel with oc apps to get upwards of 24 hours out of a single charge? also, while the tmo roms are good, they cant hold a candle to the 2.3.5 roms from ATT...i dont know what it is but those roms run like a dream on this snapdragon soc.
final thought - I love tmo, dont get me wrong, but if you think that tmo will be the first to get ics ota then maybe you know something i dont. considering that, i hypothesize that ics (or even cm9) will be available for flashy goodness long before its ever beamed to our phones.
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i also forgot about undervolting.. another good point.
bobby3306 said:
Wtf... This guy trying to make a documentary of his personal phone desires..as said previously who cares what you decide to do with your phone...we don't need to be informed your un rooting and waiting... If that's what you choose do be it but y in the hell would you think we need to know, or much less care
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Ah... what a troll. If u don't like my thread, then git!
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Nope not a troll, just don't see where what you personally do with your
phone matters to anyone else...another pointless waste of space thread started
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ingenious247 said:
I find it amusing that the only justifiable reason for you to root is a modded gmail
There are so many reasons to root it's not even a question of "why".
How about Carrier IQ? Or full control over Theming? Custom Kernels, build.prop, CWM Touch Recovery? You can't be serious about a gmail notification being the sole reason for rooting.
Oh and btw, if you haven't learned this yet, you may want to pay attention:
Once the update starts rolling out to the general public, the official version will be leaked on xda and you will be able to flash through CWM. I'm sure within days there will also be a rooted stock version as well. This will be well BEFORE you get the OTA.
So, if you want to give up control of your device just to wait longer for something that hasn't even officially been announced yet, more power to you. Say hi to Carrier IQ for me
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Relax... You sound like he stood you up on a date
I also havent rooted since getting my replacement phone... The phone is great without it and 75% of the roms and themes are the same thing just a dif battery mod or kernel (not many choices on this phone) I just think rooting isnt that big of a deal anymore since phones are becoming more powerful
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bobby3306 said:
Nope not a troll, just don't see where what you personally do with your
phone matters to anyone else...another pointless waste of space thread started
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To each their own. Opinions are like armpits. Everyone has them, and some (like your comments) simply stink.
If you don't have anything to give to benefit, then get the [email protected]#k out of my thread, and stop trolling, or i'll report you.
I mean it.
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Guys I put a case on my phone today. I know some of you guys don't use them but I don't see why you don't.

algorhythm said:
Guys I put a case on my phone today. I know some of you guys don't use them but I don't see why you don't.
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what kind of case?
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Facebook home

Now iv been looking for a leaked apk of this all over. if you havent heard about it yet then jump on to your fb account and check it out. its been a part of my news feed for days. more that i read it seems this will be more of a rom than an app. witch confuses me because the way fb had worded it, it had seemed like it was going to be an app also. im no crazy facebooker like my gf but im curious to see how this changes things like the lock screen, home screens and the overlay of fb msger. does anyone have more info on this or just maybe a leaked apk they saw fall off the back of the truck and and point me where i can find it on the side of the road lol.
more infor if anyone wanted to read http://www.topapksite.com/facebook-home-rom-leaked-ahead-of-releasethe-droid-guy/
If anyone is looking for it here you go. Its not my work in anyway all I'm doing is pointing the finger in the rite way. Enjoy. Works on my phone fine
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2232307

I was first thinking it was just something for the htc first. But now I'm under the impression that it's going to be a replacement launcher like apex or nova.

I thought it was announced? It's a launcher, but it's more integrated than other launchers as it also replaces the lockscreen and has that overlay. Personally, as a college student who uses facebook for communication and stalking his friends, I'd use it lol.

Stealyourface said:
I was first thinking it was just something for the htc first. But now I'm under the impression that it's going to be a replacement launcher like apex or nova.
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thats what im thinking now and i normally only use apex or LGs home launcher but this looks like a whole different sight on android home launchers

megamaster2 said:
I thought it was announced? It's a launcher, but it's more integrated than other launchers as it also replaces the lockscreen and has that overlay. Personally, as a college student who uses facebook for communication and stalking his friends, I'd use it lol.
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yeah ill use it until i want that new device feel again and switch to another launcher lol. they did announce it but no in great detail. i think thats tomorrow or this week, it releases to "some" android devices april 12th but the list is mainly HTCs. i saw it was leaked and such i didnt know if anyone here had it or played with it

ruthlessbeatle said:
yeah ill use it until i want that new device feel again and switch to another launcher lol. they did announce it but no in great detail. i think thats tomorrow or this week, it releases to "some" android devices april 12th but the list is mainly HTCs. i saw it was leaked and such i didnt know if anyone here had it or played with it
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Check out android Central. It'll be available for HTC one, one X, one x+, Samsung galaxy S3,s4 and note 2.
Should be cool.
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I'll try it for a few minutes, but not something I would use fulltime.

I just download the leak that was on modaco. Right now not much is working all i have is a black screen and the icon buttons i like that can switch back to your normal launcher.I'm on Facebook alot so might use it once a working APK comes out for our phone.

ngrenn35 said:
I just download the leak that was on modaco. Right now not much is working all i have is a black screen and the icon buttons i like that can switch back to your normal launcher.I'm on Facebook alot so might use it once a working APK comes out for our phone.
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can you please pm me a link for this apk? or the apk lol ill start looking at it

So its up and running. I can see and play with it such as the apps and little other things but you can't sign in idk y
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i read that until the official release on April 12th only employee facebook logins will work with the leaked apk.
I might mess with it to see what theyve been up to at FB, but I cant imagine wanting to use this as a regular launcher. Especially if its anything like their native app.

My understanding is just that it is a launcher that is heavily integrated with FB.
I personally will not be using it, as I cancelled my FB account a year ago. The air just smells cleaner these days...

Xiutehcuhtli said:
My understanding is just that it is a launcher that is heavily integrated with FB.
I personally will not be using it, as I cancelled my FB account a year ago. The air just smells cleaner these days...
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Hahaha when I "cancelled "my account I felt so much better but I went back for games. As for now I can clearly understand how it works and see it. Its def a really cool concept. I'd prefer one from instagram since I'm more of a picture person.
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ruthlessbeatle said:
Hahaha when I "cancelled "my account I felt so much better but I went back for games. As for now I can clearly understand how it works and see it. Its def a really cool concept. I'd prefer one from instagram since I'm more of a picture person.
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Give it time. We'll probably see something similar from instagram twatter maybe even as far as Google plus..
I just wish Google+ was more widely used by the average human rather just businesses and entertainment
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tsdeaton said:
Give it time. We'll probably see something similar from instagram twatter maybe even as far as Google plus..
I just wish Google+ was more widely used by the average human rather just businesses and entertainment
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agreed i think it has the best ui by far clean simple but very useful but the only reason i dont use it is cuz (no joke) i have like 15 friends on there. i come from a land where apple has taken over and android is known as a "poor" mans iphone. even though my lgog will out preform and icrap

So Facebook home was released today and after reading the requirements our phone should run it just fine. But they would rather supply it to the popular phones. Is there a sure way of getting the official release on our phone through the market? I know there's a way to change the play store to think this is a different device. How do I do that? All I can find are enablers that don't work on most phones this one included
Edit: never mind. That still doesn't work. Edited the build.prop and still no luck. Even the Facebook that supposed to have the "home" settings doesn't have it for my device. And the leak files won't allow me to log in. I'm assuming that has something to do with the device as well..
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tsdeaton said:
So Facebook home was released today and after reading the requirements our phone should run it just fine. But they would rather supply it to the popular phones. Is there a sure way of getting the official release on our phone through the market? I know there's a way to change the play store to think this is a different device. How do I do that? All I can find are enablers that don't work on most phones this one included
Edit: never mind. That still doesn't work. Edited the build.prop and still no luck. Even the Facebook that supposed to have the "home" settings doesn't have it for my device. And the leak files won't allow me to log in. I'm assuming that has something to do with the device as well..
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you cant log in with the leak because fb cut it on there end. im happy you tried that because i was going to. not sure if it works im flashing cm10 then ill try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2232213

ruthlessbeatle said:
you cant log in with the leak because fb cut it on there end. im happy you tried that because i was going to. not sure if it works im flashing cm10 then ill try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2232213
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Got it working. Found a thread that posted the official release and I didn't have to do anything special. Just installed the apk like normal
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if you edit the Build Prop to n7100 it works i'm going to give it a try for a day. to see how much i use it since i'm on facebook alot.

https://www.box.com/s/cwqlf37a9d5posphkljn
Official release

Have you noticed...

Everyone wants to unlock their bootloader so they can run a custom ROM, the supposed purpose being to improve performance and gain new features. But then, once they get the new ROM on there, they keep posting about all the problems they are having, and how this, that or the other doesn't work as well as stock. After goofing with every, and I mean EVERY ROM available for the Razr M, IMHO there's absolutely no reason to use a custom ROM if you are expecting "like stock" performance. It's fun, it's addicting, it can get crazy sometimes, but don't expect it to ever be "Final". More than likely, it will be abandoned the moment a new phone or Android version comes along, and you'll be left with all those unsolved FCs and "almost works" features left hanging. Sad, really.
And then there's the whole "let's take the stock ROM from some other phone entirely and try to make it work on our phone" thing. I totally don't get that. If you like the Necco Choco-Android-o-rama's OS so well, why not just buy that phone instead? I'm just sayin'...
Rooting? That's totally different. I don't know what they do in other countries for bloatware, but Verizon certainly loads up some stinker software here in the US. Tell me, unless you're really into that sort of thing, why would the average shmoe care about Zappos? I certainly don't! And, if I wanted an app for NFL football, I'm perfectly capable of picking one from Google Play, yeah? Same with all the Amazon shtuff. Yeah I get it, advertising helps cover manufacturing costs, and all that jazz. Sure they do it to every new PC from Brand Name X too, but at least you can uninstall it. So rooting is sort of revenge for hogging my limited storage space and then limiting my ability to do anything about it.
And since I'm on this rant anyway, please... PLEASE!!! No more of this "Let's see if we can make our Android look like an iPhone" crap. Or worse, "Windows 8 Phone" crap! - Ewww! That's like taking a Jaguar and trying to make it look like a Ford Pinto... you might manage it, but who the heck would want it?
This rant has been a Public Service Announcement. The thoughts and views expressed herein are not to be considered... period. :silly:

You said it!
I linked to this from my restore where I have a commentary section.

I totally agree. Don't flash ROMs if your going to complain. Its one thing to report to the devs and quite another to ***** about it. And good on ya for the entire rant.
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I really hope the motox stock can be ported.
It would be a big event if he & others did it.
I thank them on each post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2412427

I originally rooted and unlocked my bootloader on this phone because of the screen shake issue that a Motorola introduced in an update if that didn't happen I may not of rooted the phone its stock ROM has such a good layout its no wonder so many complain. I however knew what I was getting into. Rule of thumb to new flashers backups are your friend and don't piss off the developers.

I like stock... de-bloat it and its good to go... just wish I could find something to mod the navi bar... remove the recent apps button replace it with the menu button and change color of it...
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well, the main reason why folks are not as excited about the new ROMs, is b/c there are not any ground-breaking features on the 4.2.2 or 4.3 operating systems. When I got my first android, I had Froyo. Folks were dying to get to Gingerbread in order to vastly increase performance/battery life.
the deal with Jelly Bean, is that the upgrade from stock 4.1.2 to 4.2.2 or 4.3 is minimal at best - and the changes are mostly aesthetics (although, I read that 4.3 has better bluetooth connectivity). but mostly, 4.2.2/4.3 are primarily geared towards tablets.
the race is on now to see what KitKat can bring to current phone users.
in terms of improvements, just as radorix said, these custom ROMs eliminated the shakes that I was getting on 4.1.2. so for me, while that was not a huge deal, it's enough for me to go custom.
personally, I like the tiles layout of 4.2.2 as well as the AOKP customization, so I'll stick with that for now given that my battery life/performance is stock-like.

*claps* You said it. The Razr M has actually been the first Android phone I owned where I've kept the stock ROM. I think it does fine with 4.1.2 atm, and if I really wanted a change I'd probably just theme it.

The only thing that matters to me is stability and speed. I like a fast phone and I like to o/c, push the phone. I like to test things and try to understand its problems rather than build myself because I don't have the time. If I can find the right medium between speed and stability it becomes my dd, naturally. But stock was built for a reason and every now and then I go back to 4.1.2 because I miss some of the features. Like the far left quick settings menu and Circle Clock. Why have to find a work around to add all these features and fixes to a reimagined custom OS that causes more problems when its already working? We wouldn't have anything to work with if we didn't have the source to start at!

Couldn't agree more. I've had 9 different android devices in the past 4 years. Only ones I haven't rooted are my Sony tablet s (original, don't even get me started with their abandonment of this thing, hey let's leave bugs, make a seemingly unlockable boot loader, not share any code, abandon it after realizing all the bugs exist, then support everything we make after it) and my original nexus 7. I too came back to a stock debloated deodexed ROM for the RAZR M.
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JPHoller said:
Couldn't agree more. I've had 9 different android devices in the past 4 years. Only ones I haven't rooted are my Sony tablet s (original, don't even get me started with their abandonment of this thing, hey let's leave bugs, make a seemingly unlockable boot loader, not share any code, abandon it after realizing all the bugs exist, then support everything we make after it) and my original nexus 7. I too came back to a stock debloated deodexed ROM for the RAZR M.
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Lol. Not the only Sammy device they've dropped. Heard of the Galaxy Player 4.2?
Oh and ezknives, you do realize the menu button is completely redundant right? Considering it pops up if needed and isn't even supported/required for Holo apps
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sloosecannon said:
Lol. Not the only Sammy device they've dropped. Heard of the Galaxy Player 4.2?
Oh and ezknives, you do realize the menu button is completely redundant right? Considering it pops up if needed and isn't even supported/required for Holo apps
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Not for me... with-in various apps it does not... when on different ROMs and I removed the multitasking feature and replaced it with a menu key I was able to utilize features that was other wise inaccessible... like deleting messages in Facebook app for instance... that cannot be done without a menu button or opening your browser and requesting the desktop site... I just need my menu key its never there when I need it...and I don't know what halo apps are nor use it I don't believe...
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ezknives said:
Not for me... with-in various apps it does not... when on different ROMs and I removed the multitasking feature and replaced it with a menu key I was able to utilize features that was other wise inaccessible... like deleting messages in Facebook app for instance... that cannot be done without a menu button or opening your browser and requesting the desktop site... I just need my menu key its never there when I need it...and I don't know what halo apps are nor use it I don't believe...
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Holo means apps designed for android 4.0+.
It's the ICS+ ui style. There should be a way to access the menu without a dedicated button - either built-in or by telling the system it's a legacy app that needs the settings button to appear
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netizenmt said:
Everyone wants to unlock their bootloader so they can run a custom ROM, the supposed purpose being to improve performance and gain new features. But then, once they get the new ROM on there, they keep posting about all the problems they are having, and how this, that or the other doesn't work as well as stock. After goofing with every, and I mean EVERY ROM available for the Razr M, IMHO there's absolutely no reason to use a custom ROM if you are expecting "like stock" performance. It's fun, it's addicting, it can get crazy sometimes, but don't expect it to ever be "Final". More than likely, it will be abandoned the moment a new phone or Android version comes along, and you'll be left with all those unsolved FCs and "almost works" features left hanging. Sad, really.
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Meh. I disagree. I've been running CM since it went official and I haven't had any complaints. I experience much-better-than-stock performance and battery life, plus it is way more customizable. I love it!

allc0re said:
Meh. I disagree. I've been running CM since it went official and I haven't had any complaints. I experience much-better-than-stock performance and battery life, plus it is way more customizable. I love it!
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I just tried it again. Froze on reboot, wouldn't let me into recovery, same BS as all the 4.3 versions. And I wrote the book, well thread, on how to install it, so yeah I wiped etc.
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i'm enjoying better than stock performance on the stable 4.2.2 branch, and i built a custom kernel for CM10.1 for better performance. I tried the 'stock' life and its boring lol. The custom ROM features and better performance are what makes it worth it in my view. 4.3 will be even better as work is continually being done on it, and it hasn't been out that long. Also, I think we need to give appreciation to the devs for giving us options as far as what we can run on this phone compared to being stuck with only one choice.

CM is getting good. Recently the "display freezing" issue got fixed, also more fixes for cardock audio and wifi. It simply takes a while to get it all done properly (with that what's left is SIM I/O and HDR (works with Moto X camera application)).
@netizenmt: Booting to recovery is not affected by the ROM you have installed, so you screwed up the installation at some point.

Skrilax_CZ said:
CM is getting good. Recently the "display freezing" issue got fixed, also more fixes for cardock audio and wifi. It simply takes a while to get it all done properly (with that what's left is SIM I/O and HDR (works with Moto X camera application)).
@netizenmt: Booting to recovery is not affected by the ROM you have installed, so you screwed up the installation at some point.
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Would you offer a build for a Bluetooth phone user that has the SD swap working?
One that might quiet this thread?

netizenmt said:
I just tried it again. Froze on reboot, wouldn't let me into recovery, same BS as all the 4.3 versions. And I wrote the book, well thread, on how to install it, so yeah I wiped etc.
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There are a few tricks to getting 4.3 installed and running but it will never happen if u just quite and go back to stock before u get it up and running correctly. I had a terrible time getting 4.3 to boot, keyboard forcing close, stability etc but I figured all that out and wouldn't think of going back to stock. The amount and way if partions the internal drive alone will keep me from ever going back to stock.
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stanlalee said:
There are a few tricks to getting 4.3 installed and running but it will never happen if u just quite and go back to stock before u get it up and running correctly. I had a terrible time getting 4.3 to boot, keyboard forcing close, stability etc but I figured all that out and wouldn't think of going back to stock. The amount and way if partions the internal drive alone will keep me from ever going back to stock.
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You actually just made my whole point.
While it's cool you had time, patience, skill and effort to resolve your issues with 4.3, that's not the point of this thread. So do I. The point is, if you think you're going to slap one of these ROMs on and everything is going to work like stock, forget it. If that's what someone expects, they should stick to stock.
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Any aosp/cm11 sprint roms

Are we going to be be getting any non touchwiz roms soon? I sure miss cm 11 and omni roms.
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Soon .probably. Hopefully. But you should ask these kinda question in the q and a thread or the general section before u get flamed. ☺

Sorry. I only asked here because this is where they get posted.
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Sorry. I only asked here because this is where they get posted.
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Questions go under questions. Theres yet to be a specific ROM thread up where that would apply.

they have cm booting on the tmobile one, the majority of that code would work fine for the sprint one. chances are they will be unified builds. if this was teh s5 or anything id work towards fleshing out the device tree and bringing it up, but i am truly happy with my note 4 stock with xposed. i dont use all the fancy samsung features but i do use enough of them to not even really want to bother flashing aosp and losing out on it. granted this is my first note device but i cant see or imagine why anyone would want to use something other than stock, battery is amazing, features are top notch and its very fast and fluid.
I came from a nexus 5 but i sold that and for a week i used a kyocera echo until my note 4 preorder was ready to pick up, it truly is amazing in how much progress has been made in such a short time.

I agree with Shabbypenguin.
I'd rather have a stock ROM with all the cool Samsung functionality of floating windows, one handed moded, functional heart rate sensor, S-Pen apps, and camera app all work great.
Instead we need a rom with stock as base, and AOSP apps like I describe in my thread:
My "Dream ROM" for the Note 4 would be:
*Rooted
*Knox removed
*CyanogenMod style theming
*Samsung and Sprint bloatware removed (accept for Facebook sync)
*TouchWiz apps (calendar, messaging, phone, clock, calculator, lockscreen, notification quick settings) replaced with CyanogenMod versions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2920117

hermeticist said:
I agree with Shabbypenguin.
I'd rather have a stock ROM with all the cool Samsung functionality of floating windows, one handed moded, functional heart rate sensor, S-Pen apps, and camera app all work great.
Instead we need a rom with stock as base, and AOSP apps like I describe in my thread:
My "Dream ROM" for the Note 4 would be:
*Rooted
*Knox removed
*CyanogenMod style theming
*Samsung and Sprint bloatware removed (accept for Facebook sync)
*TouchWiz apps (calendar, messaging, phone, clock, calculator, lockscreen, notification quick settings) replaced with CyanogenMod versions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2920117
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i swore i replied to you in there but i guess i didnt :/. the cm theme manager isnt possible on stock, its embedded in so many core files to be able to alter everything on the fly its not possible without recompiling with the code added in, and we cant recompile touchwiz.

shabbypenguin said:
they have cm booting on the tmobile one, the majority of that code would work fine for the sprint one. chances are they will be unified builds. if this was teh s5 or anything id work towards fleshing out the device tree and bringing it up, but i am truly happy with my note 4 stock with xposed. i dont use all the fancy samsung features but i do use enough of them to not even really want to bother flashing aosp and losing out on it. granted this is my first note device but i cant see or imagine why anyone would want to use something other than stock, battery is amazing, features are top notch and its very fast and fluid.
I came from a nexus 5 but i sold that and for a week i used a kyocera echo until my note 4 preorder was ready to pick up, it truly is amazing in how much progress has been made in such a short time.
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My main gripe is the typing lag,
in some apps. I notice the typing lag mainly on TouchWiz roms and in Google hangouts and a few other apps. I've tried different keyboards and they all lag on TouchWiz. If I use Aosp, no lag at all anywhere.
Yes the features of the Note 4 are great but I don't use and can live without most of them. I really wanted this device for its spen. I'd take the overall smoothness of cm11 and it's lean build over the features in touch wiz. Hopefully we get a cm build going.

Cm12? Mmmmm

I was just reading about CM12.
I'm strongly thinking of moving over.
I can mimic floating windows with xhalo xposed. It has resizable windows that work similar to TouchWiz floating windows.
I'm not sure how I'd mimic one handed mode
Or the stock camera app which has dual facing camera modes.
Any ideas?

Read on land of droid the cm12 roadmap
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Hopefully someone picks up the Sprint Note 4 as the cm12 maintainer.

Looking forward to cm on the note 4. It's pretty much the only thing keeping me from buying one.

shabbypenguin said:
they have cm booting on the tmobile one, the majority of that code would work fine for the sprint one. chances are they will be unified builds. if this was teh s5 or anything id work towards fleshing out the device tree and bringing it up, but i am truly happy with my note 4 stock with xposed. i dont use all the fancy samsung features but i do use enough of them to not even really want to bother flashing aosp and losing out on it. granted this is my first note device but i cant see or imagine why anyone would want to use something other than stock, battery is amazing, features are top notch and its very fast and fluid.
I came from a nexus 5 but i sold that and for a week i used a kyocera echo until my note 4 preorder was ready to pick up, it truly is amazing in how much progress has been made in such a short time.
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Who has it booting on tmobile?

More then likely welll be skipped cause of poor sales
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pbedard said:
More then likely welll be skipped cause of poor sales
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Yea probably not man. Anyone with enough skill can build the device tree. Its just nice when we get official maintainers. Give it time, it will happen. Samsung devices ALWYS get cm.

Slayher has cm12 apparently booting on the note 4

jdidtht said:
Slayher has cm12 apparently booting on the note 4
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Sprint or t-mobile?

DarkManX4lf said:
Sprint or t-mobile?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56811531
International looks like, but sd variants very similar so just having a tree available is huge
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Have we reached a point where all of the stuff you mentioned is no longer going to be able to be incorporated into AOSP? I came to the note 4 from the note 2, and I agree touchwiz is pretty nicely refined, but I would like to see AOSP. From some post's I've read hear and there, it appears that touchwiz just gets more complex. What about the Nexus 6 OS?
hermeticist said:
I agree with Shabbypenguin.
I'd rather have a stock ROM with all the cool Samsung functionality of floating windows, one handed moded, functional heart rate sensor, S-Pen apps, and camera app all work great.
Instead we need a rom with stock as base, and AOSP apps like I describe in my thread:
My "Dream ROM" for the Note 4 would be:
*Rooted
*Knox removed
*CyanogenMod style theming
*Samsung and Sprint bloatware removed (accept for Facebook sync)
*TouchWiz apps (calendar, messaging, phone, clock, calculator, lockscreen, notification quick settings) replaced with CyanogenMod versions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2920117
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