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ok so i tested both batteries with a video!
(video = bf3 gameplay 1080p .wmv) looping over and over with mx player
each battery at 100%
stock is i believe 1850 mah
hyperion is 3500 mah
stock lasted 1 hour and 55 minutes at 10%
hyperion at 10% left beat stock by 45 minutes more
doesnt seem great increase in life but its something....any thoughts?
ohh yea i had to leave phone in my Frig because that phone was getting smoking hot
Hm.. I expected it to last longer than that. How long have you had the extended battery?
woah! practically double the size, certainly not double the life.. That's kind of disappointing
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If battery is double the size the we should expect double the usage. 55 stock and 55 + 45 for Hyperion.
Sounds OK to me
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@stemalo,
You missed that it was an hour and 55 for stock. So 115 minutes for stock and 160 minutes for Hyperion. Not so great.
I'm certainly getting close to double the battery life with my hyperion battery.
Perhaps you just got a dud? Also, cold temperatures are not kind to batteries, so that may have skewed results too.
996gt2 said:
I'm certainly getting close to double the battery life with my hyperion battery.
Perhaps you just got a dud? Also, cold temperatures are not kind to batteries, so that may have skewed results too.
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battery ive had for about two weeks now...hmm i guess the frig didnt help my results
....well hyperion is like pretty much one hour extra...i guess its something
Some things to keep in mind...
1. New rechargeable batteries (of any chemistry) usually require anywhere from a few to a few dozen charging cycles before reaching peak performance.
2. There's no regulation on how a manufacturer goes about claiming the capacity of a battery, I have no doubt that Hyperion's rating of 3,500mAH probably has a real-life rating more in the neighborhood of 2,700mAH...Especially at such a discounted price.
3. Testing while looping a movie seems like a good indicator. I'd only suggest also putting the phone into airplane mode (to remove the radio from the equation), use an App Manager to make sure nothing else is running and lock the CPU to a specific frequency (if you have SetCPU) during testing.
Even so, 160min vs 115min is about a 40% increase over stock...So 1850mAH increased by 40% is right about 2600mAH, which is right around the range of my #2 statement above.
IMHO, with this 3rd party lesser-known name and at well less than the cost of what the OEM battery costs at -supposedly- half the capacity?...Yeah, I'm setting my own expectations on the low side when I receive mine that I ordered yesterday.
Namuna said:
Some things to keep in mind...
1. New rechargeable batteries (of any chemistry) usually require anywhere from a few to a few dozen charging cycles before reaching peak performance.
2. There's no regulation on how a manufacturer goes about claiming the capacity of a battery, I have no doubt that Hyperion's rating of 3,500mAH probably has a real-life rating more in the neighborhood of 2,700mAH...Especially at such a discounted price.
3. Testing while looping a movie seems like a good indicator. I'd only suggest also putting the phone into airplane mode (to remove the radio from the equation), use an App Manager to make sure nothing else is running and lock the CPU to a specific frequency (if you have SetCPU) during testing.
Even so, 160min vs 115min is about a 40% increase over stock...So 1850mAH increased by 40% is right about 2600mAH, which is right around the range of my #2 statement above.
IMHO, with this 3rd party lesser-known name and at well less than the cost of what the OEM battery costs at -supposedly- half the capacity?...Yeah, I'm setting my own expectations on the low side when I receive mine that I ordered yesterday.
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ohh yea i had the cpu locked at 1.512 with no frills cpu control at performance....screen brightness was about half....i had wifi on...data on...gps on...bluetooth on....
and after all that mess my phone was acting real funky...like it wouldnt send text it would male phone calls...i rebooted and rebooted but it didnt help...i restored a backup and than it all worked....i guess the rom got screwed up or something...
I just got a Hyperion 3500mAh battery for the Motorola photon.
The performance and charge time indicate that it is in fact a 2200mAh battery.
I was disappointed by the deceptive advertising, labeling, and bait and switch.
For the price not bad for a 2200mAh, but I hate the deception so I am going to shout it loud and far across the web, so people know what they are getting in not in fact a 3500mAh battery, but is a 2200mAh battery.
That is all
I have heard mixed things about batteries that keep the same format as the original, but this is mugen... I'm expecting quality.
I would buy a larger battery it a bigger cover existed though
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I have it and i can say, it gives u about 20-25 % more of battery than standard. Not bad at all. And for 25 dollars, i think it 's a good price
Link plz
Dany XP said:
I have it and i can say, it gives u about 20-25 % more of battery than standard. Not bad at all. And for 25 dollars, i think it 's a good price
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If u know where to buy one of those batteries could u post link, plz?
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I have the Mugen Power Battery and i must say it is working well. The extra juice of 300 mAh gives you about 1h more of gaming time ,this means 4 hours instead of 3 hours with standard battery (maximum brightness, no overclocking). With overclocking to 1.5GHZ you will get 3 hours of game time. Battery fits good into the battery slot but it's not as easy to get it in or out of the slot as like the normal one. But thats okay. No problems with the original backcover. You can get one at their official site, just google it. It is safe and you get your package in about 2 weeks normally because it ships from Hong Kong. Or you find a shop which offers Mugen Power Batteries. Remember that the Battery for Xperia X1, Xperia X2 and Xperia X10 share the same battery size.
I have been using mine for a few weeks and I get 5 hours of screen time and like 12 idle(heavy use)
light usage I can't get like 40 hours
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Sounds like a pretty good upgrade.
Well, my first day with the Mugen 1800. :victory:
Right now seems the battery drains much slower than before but it's somewhat difficult to put in place because it fits tighter than the original one. Even I was feared of breaking something while I was trying to put it inside, lol.
So guys, since Mugen Power is having a Countdown discount this Christmas, can anyone make another comment on their 1800mAh batteries for the Xperia PLAY after months/weeks of using it? I might be getting one in the next few hours and I want to make sure I'm not shelling out dollars for a crap battery. I know Mugen has a good rep but reviews talk better. Please guys, say something, convince me!
It's the best battery I have ever seen, it constantly holds like 20% more than the stock, even after 6 months.
You need to be rooted to modify a few settings btw.
It's expensive but if you got the extra money and need more charge, then absolutely go for it.
I constantly got 5+hours of screen time
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And by screen time you mean?
I'm thinking of buying because I think the stock battery is already losing its former juice. It already easily drains 8-10% of juice by just fiddling through SMS conversations. Jeez. Additionally, after I full charge the battery and leave it idle for about 30 minutes, the percentage usually just drops to a whopping 74%. That ain't healthy anymore, right?
I've been using genuine MSM.HK batteries before and they are the best I think. So this is basically my first time to buy and use a Mugen battery.
Screen time means the time that the screen is on.
Normally that's just browsing and chatting etc, gaming time is obviously less but still better than stock.
That is a lot of drain though maybe some rogue app is eating your cpu
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After months of use, i'd say that with 1800mah battery you gain about 20-25 % battery. Not bad, especially for just 24 dollars (i guess less, with these days discount)
If there's one rogue app that keeps running in the background even it was already closed, it would be Camera360. The app is awesome I think especially with the Magic Skin that I rarely see in a camera app so I basically cannot give up the app at the moment.
Now I'm thinking twice. 20-25% more battery cap at $30? I can't really decide because I could easily get a same (or even better) quality genuine MSM.HK battery at stock mAh for a measly $6 at a local battery shop that I can get to in under 30 minutes. Jeez, I'm confused.
PS, it appears $31.95 for me, minus 7% holiday discount so that would be $29.71.
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If there's one rogue app that keeps running in the background even it was already closed, it would be Camera360. The app is awesome I think especially with the Magic Skin that I rarely see in a camera app so I basically cannot give up the app at the moment.
Now I'm thinking twice. 20-25% more battery cap at $30? I can't really decide because I could easily get a same (or even better) quality genuine MSM.HK battery at stock mAh for a measly $6 at a local battery shop that I can get to in under 30 minutes. Jeez, I'm confused.
PS, it appears $31.95 for me, minus 7% holiday discount so that would be $29.71.
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I spent 25.44$ months ago (actually it was $ 27.36 but i got 5% discount for "i like it" their facebook page or somethning like that
For some heavy use the Mugen gives you more confidence with its adittional 20%. I love don't be worried about if my battery will last until I arrive home.
If you usually don't have problems with the stock battery capacity then go for a normal, cheaper replace.
I've heard good reviews for mugen batteries but personally I wouldn't spend that much for a small upgrade.
Yeah @LordBattleBeard, I've thought of that, too.
I actually bought yesterday a genuine MSM.HK BST-41 1500mAh for my Xperia PLAY and I'd say at same mAh, it outperforms my stock battery. No more questionable drains, temps stay constantly at 25 degrees Celsius even while gaming, and playing for 1.5 to 2 hours now only slashes about 15% of juice. I say I just made myself a good deal.
Thanks anyway, everyone, for your insights on the Mugen 1800mAh.
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Yeah @LordBattleBeard, I've thought of that, too.
I actually bought yesterday a genuine MSM.HK BST-41 1500mAh for my Xperia PLAY and I'd say at same mAh, it outperforms my stock battery. No more questionable drains, temps stay constantly at 25 degrees Celsius even while gaming, and playing for 1.5 to 2 hours now only slashes about 15% of juice. I say I just made myself a good deal.
Thanks anyway, everyone, for your insights on the Mugen 1800mAh.
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In the same kind of boat and stuck between the two. Was going to get the BST-41 but was worried by one massive thing, my current battery, not sure about everybody elses, is a Li-ion battery and the BST-41 is a Li-Polymer. Should I be worried or should I just take the plunge?
I think it's just fine. Most handhelds today use Li-Ion alongside Li-Po, and vice versa. I honestly didn't even know that BST-41 was Li-Po until you posted it and I actually had to look at my Play's original battery to confirm.
As for their difference, here are good posts to read:
http://www.batteryeducation.com/2006/04/what_is_the_dif.html
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080504170740AAevnfI
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/15775_How_do_Lithium_batteries_work.php
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I think it's just fine. Most handhelds today use Li-Ion alongside Li-Po, and vice versa. I honestly didn't even know that BST-41 was Li-Po until you posted it and I actually had to look at my Play's original battery to confirm.
As for their difference, here are good posts to read:
http://www.batteryeducation.com/2006/04/what_is_the_dif.html
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080504170740AAevnfI
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/15775_How_do_Lithium_batteries_work.php
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Thanks!
Decided to take the plunge, can't go wrong with and item that costs £3.33!
I have mine Note for 8 months and am currently hungry for a new battery. Looking for extended battery below 30 bucks and found mpj, anyone use this?? I am not sure whether my stock losing power because of my heavy usage. I hardly use it and I am gaming online with it, browse webs , phone calls and text, and also a lot of YouTube.
I have a "galilio sx-i9220" 3250mAh accu and its not much better than the original...
I recommend anker accu!
Basically these slim extended battery is regular battery. MPJ is ok, at least as good as stock.
IMO always get original batteries if you want your Note to be slim. I got a golden 3030mAh battery from pixinf.com and it is a bit worse than the 2500mAh original from Sammy. But if you want better battery life always go for the humongous5000mAh or more batteries with the extra humongous back cover from trusted eBay sellers only . A friend of mine got almost 5 days out of a 5000mAh one (with no wifi/3G usage) :laugh:
Hey guys just a quick simple question, which of these two brands is more reputable and offers higher quality batteries?
http://www.amazon.com/Hyperion-GT-i...843965&sr=8-2&keywords=i9250+extended+battery
http://www.amazon.com/Onite-Extende...843965&sr=8-1&keywords=i9250+extended+battery
Both have good ratings on amazon but I was wondering about guys who actually have these batteries. Is the larger hyperion better than the NFC equipped Onite? FYI I never really use NFC so it is not a factor here. I just want to get the better quality, longer lasting battery.
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Hey guys just a quick simple question, which of these two brands is more reputable and offers higher quality batteries?
http://www.amazon.com/Hyperion-GT-i...843965&sr=8-2&keywords=i9250+extended+battery
http://www.amazon.com/Onite-Extende...843965&sr=8-1&keywords=i9250+extended+battery
Both have good ratings on amazon but I was wondering about guys who actually have these batteries. Is the larger hyperion better than the NFC equipped Onite? FYI I never really use NFC so it is not a factor here. I just want to get the better quality, longer lasting battery.
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I don't have the Hyperion battery, I instead have once from QCell and the Onite (3500) you linked. I got them since October/Septmeber 2013 and both of them blow the stock (1700) battery away. But my QCell battery seems to last a little bit longer (and I think its a slightly larger capacity battery) but the battery seems to discharge at a weird rate. It rapidly discharges and then it gains back a couple of %. As a result, the battery graph looks very spiky jittery mess. But it still works fine but it may randomly shut down at the 5-10% mark.
Right now, I use the Onite as a daily driver for those reason alone as it doesn't derp like the Qcell does. It definitely falls under the category of not bad. But be warned batteries of this size will make your phone huge, bulky and heavy haha. Picking up a Nexus 5 will make you think its a feather light after using huge batteries on the GNex.
Wifi use at home easily gets me 5-6 hour screen on time with a little more than 2d uptime. The days where I go out the entire day, it would last about 4 hours +/- screen on time (I run at way higher brightness when I'm not at home), BT on when in the car streaming audio for 1 hour, average signal and about 15+ hours uptime because I replug in when I sleep with usually 10-30% to spare. In short, I never run out of battery less than a day of usage. Almost double the battery life of stock battery. With Trinity kernel, you easily gain an extra half an hour of SOT on this battery.
GTA SA though kills the Onite battery flat in 2h 30m of continuos gaming with thermal throttle disabled (Trinity kernel) at 20%+ brightness
amd-dude said:
Hey guys just a quick simple question, which of these two brands is more reputable and offers higher quality batteries?
http://www.amazon.com/Hyperion-GT-i...843965&sr=8-2&keywords=i9250+extended+battery
http://www.amazon.com/Onite-Extende...843965&sr=8-1&keywords=i9250+extended+battery
Both have good ratings on amazon but I was wondering about guys who actually have these batteries. Is the larger hyperion better than the NFC equipped Onite? FYI I never really use NFC so it is not a factor here. I just want to get the better quality, longer lasting battery.
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I would go for the Onite, for sure. Even if I don't really like to use not original battery. I think it's unsafe for the smartphone itself.
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I don't have the Hyperion battery, I instead have once from QCell and the Onite (3500) you linked. I got them since October/Septmeber 2013 and both of them blow the stock (1700) battery away. But my QCell battery seems to last a little bit longer (and I think its a slightly larger capacity battery) but the battery seems to discharge at a weird rate. It rapidly discharges and then it gains back a couple of %. As a result, the battery graph looks very spiky jittery mess. But it still works fine but it may randomly shut down at the 5-10% mark.
Right now, I use the Onite as a daily driver for those reason alone as it doesn't derp like the Qcell does. It definitely falls under the category of not bad. But be warned batteries of this size will make your phone huge, bulky and heavy haha. Picking up a Nexus 5 will make you think its a feather light after using huge batteries on the GNex.
Wifi use at home easily gets me 5-6 hour screen on time with a little more than 2d uptime. The days where I go out the entire day, it would last about 4 hours +/- screen on time (I run at way higher brightness when I'm not at home), BT on when in the car streaming audio for 1 hour, average signal and about 15+ hours uptime because I replug in when I sleep with usually 10-30% to spare. In short, I never run out of battery less than a day of usage. Almost double the battery life of stock battery. With Trinity kernel, you easily gain an extra half an hour of SOT on this battery.
GTA SA though kills the Onite battery flat in 2h 30m of continuos gaming with thermal throttle disabled (Trinity kernel) at 20%+ brightness
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Thanks for that really in depth response, I appreciate it. I will definitely buy the Onite battery. Thank you again.
I bought the Hyperion 2 days ago and here are some screen shots of my usage yesterday, I think I could do better with some modifications...
Cheers from Tx
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Hi Guys,
After searching for Samsung made 2000 mAh extended battery in Bangalore for few days, I gave up and settled with something else. I thought I will buy Anker batteries but couldnt find any good deal.
Eventually I ended up buying 3500 mAh extended battery + backpanel from this link - http://www.ebay.in/itm/SAMSUNG-GALA...Mobile_Accessories&hash=item19ecfd2713&_uhb=1
This is a Chinese battery and I did not expect it to be full 3500 mAh but anything above 2500 mAh was fine with me. The prices mentioned at the above link are varying bigtime - I bought it in 1039 INR, 2 days back it was 888 and now its INR 1200.
The bulky backpanel is a must to house this extended battery because of which-
1) Phone becomes quite heavy
2) S2 Lost its beauty, slimness(figure ) and sex appeal
3) Feels Bulky in pocket
But thankfully it does what its meant for. Here are the battery life stats so far-
First charge took almost 6 hours to reach 100% but I let it charge for 10-11 hours.
~37 hours backup
-3 hours 38 mins SOT
- 30-40% screen brightness
Wifi on for ~15 hours
was at 53% after 26 hours, and the drop after that was pretty fast.
2nd charge - took close to 4.5 hours on usb charging
~ 27 hours
- 30-40% screen brightness
~3 hours SOT
-with heavy usage, backing up apps/data, restoring/installing lots of apps, backing up rom and flashing rom thrice
- noticed that the drop after 50% status is very fast. (5-7 % per hour)
3rd charge - took approx 5.5 hours to charge fully (with me installing multiple apps and stuff)
- 43 hours backup
- 30-40% screen brightness
- ~2.5 hrs SOT
- wifi on for ~20 hours, ~40 mins calls, flashing kernels and normal messaging.
Baseline - Apart from the compromise I made on looks of the phone, I am really happy with the battery backup. I could get that kinda backup time only while keeping the phone in standby and very less SOT. I found that the upper part of phone heats up (as usual when involved with heavy activities) but the battery was totally cool. So my fears of it exploding are subsiding with time
Few pics of the phone, battery and backpanel are attached.
P.S. Will be updating the battery stats for next few charges.
I am thinking of buying a similar battery but i dont know because the s2 will become heavier and will lose its slim shape.
Anyway, does the extended battery make big difference to your battery life?
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I am thinking of buying a similar battery but i dont know because the s2 will become heavier and will lose its slim shape.
Anyway, does the extended battery make big difference to your battery life?
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With my 1650 mAh battery I could get 3+ hours SOT but then it wont last for 24 hours. With the new battery I am getting 1.5+ times more battery life than it was previously. The imp thing would be to see for how long i get it (as it is Chinese) :laugh:
and yeah, with this battery - bye bye slimness and lightness for S2.
banjara said:
With my 1650 mAh battery I could get 3+ hours SOT but then it wont last for 24 hours. With the new battery I am getting 1.5+ times more battery life than it was previously. The imp thing would be to see for how long i get it (as it is Chinese) :laugh:
and yeah, with this battery - bye bye slimness and lightness for S2.
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I will buy one soon because my current is too old and "dead" but i dont know if it will be 3500 or less.
Anyway thanks for the information
giorgakis10 said:
I will buy one soon because my current is too old and "dead" but i dont know if it will be 3500 or less.
Anyway thanks for the information
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Massive! I was tempted too, but I'll resort to some external battery pack; I can't stand seeing the sII with this big fat back
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Massive! I was tempted too, but I'll resort to some external battery pack; I can't stand seeing the sII with this big fat back
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I was a lil demotivated too before buying it but now this big-assed-s2 feels like a new phone to me. To top that, battery backup is pretty much better than the stock. Its like atleast 1.5-2 times more than stock which matters to me a lot.
I am happy with it :cyclops: