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hi does anyone know of an actual battery that has more capacity but does not require a bulkier battery door?
and most importantly, that it DOES give you more battery life?
because i once bought a 2000MaH battery for my HTC TP2 on ebay and that was the biggest scam i fell for, the stupid battery gave approximately the exact same battery life as the old battery... which was 1500MaH
X-Kenshin-X said:
hi does anyone know of an actual battery that has more capacity but does not require a bulkier battery door?
and most importantly, that it DOES give you more battery life?
because i once bought a 2000MaH battery for my HTC TP2 on ebay and that was the biggest scam i fell for, the stupid battery gave approximately the exact same battery life as the old battery... which was 1500MaH
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Yeah the batteries that do not require a bigger back door are all going to perform the same oem or worse. So you can get a cheap charger and and extra oem battery and do that,or say **** it and get the big ass battery
X-Kenshin-X said:
hi does anyone know of an actual battery that has more capacity but does not require a bulkier battery door?
and most importantly, that it DOES give you more battery life?
because i once bought a 2000MaH battery for my HTC TP2 on ebay and that was the biggest scam i fell for, the stupid battery gave approximately the exact same battery life as the old battery... which was 1500MaH
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ahhh the eternal quest for the holy grail of batteries. nope, it's not possible. not until battery technology improves. If it was possible to have a better performing battery that was the same size HTC would of put it in their to begin with. check out batteryboss.org for proof.
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ahhh the eternal quest for the holy grail of batteries. nope, it's not possible. not until battery technology improves. If it was possible to have a better performing battery that was the same size HTC would of put it in their to begin with. check out batteryboss.org for proof.
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I did check it out! What's wrong with the 2150mAH TP2 battery as an option? I ordered one. Thanks for the link.
Here's one: Mugen Power Extended Battery 1800mAh for HTC Evo 4G
However, the reality is that Manufacturer claims a 20% improvement in battery life. Depending on your use that may or may not be significant enough. I'm just running stock battery w/ custom ROM (Damage Control) and some system tweaks which significantly improved battery life (errr, at least resulted in less battery drain
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I did check it out! What's wrong with the 2150mAH TP2 battery as an option? I ordered one. Thanks for the link.
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The 2150 OEM TP2 is the official HTC extended battery, its thicker and requires a extended battery door.
kperry1911 said:
Here's one: Mugen Power Extended Battery 1800mAh for HTC Evo 4G
However, the reality is that Manufacturer claims a 20% improvement in battery life. Depending on your use that may or may not be significant enough. I'm just running stock battery w/ custom ROM (Damage Control) and some system tweaks which significantly improved battery life (errr, at least resulted in less battery drain
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The "1800mAh" Mugen tested identical to the 1500mAh OEM battery.. save your money. http://batteryboss.org/results/NewMugen1800mAh_vs_NewOEM1500mAh.png
IMO the best option is to tweak your settings.. Im getting as much as 30 hours out of my OEM 1500 battery now. I also have 3 spare
batteries in case I ever need more juice. they are quite small and fit in a wallet fine. i've yet to actually need one. You could also try
this, which was told to me by an HTC Rep (and it for real almost tripled my battery life!)
"To also help with Battery Life you can do these steps exactly: 1) Turn your device ON and Charge the device for 8 hours or more 2) Unplug the device and Turn the phone OFF and charge for 1 hour 3) Unplug the device Turn ON wait 2 minutes and Turn OFF and charge for another hour Your battery life should almost double, we have tested this on our devices and other agents have seen a major difference as well."
you only need to do it once, and then again each time you flash a new ROM or do an OTA update.
did this method of turning the phone on and off and charging the battery for another hour improve battery life for anyone?
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The 2150 OEM TP2 is the official HTC extended battery, its thicker and requires a extended battery door.
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OOPS! Time for a new door.
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IMO the best option is to tweak your settings.. Im getting as much as 30 hours out of my OEM 1500 battery now. I also have 3 spare
batteries in case I ever need more juice. they are quite small and fit in a wallet fine. i've yet to actually need one. You could also try
this, which was told to me by an HTC Rep (and it for real almost tripled my battery life!)
"To ate.
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30 hours? you joking right?
If you getting that much why in the world would you have the need for an extra battery let alone three?
I call BS
That's hardly BS.
I easily get 30+ hours out of a single charge.
Right now im at 22 hours with ~45% battery life on stock 1500mAh.
It's a rip-off to get an extended battery because they don't perform as well..
I am waiting on a 1750mAh spare battery that fits with the standard back plate. If it works well, I will advise.
what is your up time though. i have an 3500mah extended battery and i don't get 30 hours still
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That's hardly BS.
I easily get 30+ hours out of a single charge.
Right now im at 22 hours with ~45% battery life on stock 1500mAh.
It's a rip-off to get an extended battery because they don't perform as well..
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I keep 4g on
I keep data always enabled too.
Do you?
I get over 9 Hours with BT, and data on all day. I have a task manager that shuts things down every 30 mins "IGNORE LIST messages, gv dialer, clock, task manager" Without it I was getting 4 hours. I make calls and surf the web and watch my porn clips during the day, so it does get used. I sent for the 1750 yesterday so I will update this after I get it that thing going. And the new batterys do have to be charged and discharge like 20 times before the hold a charge as well as they say it can.. Batterys on ebay=joke, buy the name brand ones. I used to make r/c battery packs and they have a peak run time in life, and its not the first time you charge them. It takes time..
I went to eBay and bought the "HTC EVO 4G BATTERY 1800+Dock USB CHGR SPRINT TOUCH PRO2" from vendor Chichitec. Vendor is located in California, so no sketchy chinese vendor, high ratings and fast delivery.
I haven't really timed how much more usage I'm getting with this new battery, but it does last longer, trust me.
The separate wall charger also seems to charge the OEM battery better than just by using the usb cable on the phone.
Not a bad deal for $19.98 at your door.
~fb
topdnbass said:
That's hardly BS.
I easily get 30+ hours out of a single charge.
Right now im at 22 hours with ~45% battery life on stock 1500mAh.
It's a rip-off to get an extended battery because they don't perform as well..
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Sadly, for people who actually turn on their phone this is somewhat unrealistic.
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Sadly, for people who actually turn on their phone this is somewhat unrealistic.
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I turn mine on quite frequently and posted my build below.
SayWhat10 said:
30 hours? you joking right?
If you getting that much why in the world would you have the need for an extra battery let alone three?
I call BS
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I get anywhere from 20-40 hours on a single charge(OEM battery) depending on my usage running Damage Control 3.2.3 with netarchy's 3.7.5 kernel, setCPU and Advanced Task Manager. I have setcpu keep the CPU @ 245mhz when the screen is off and 245mhz-1113mhz(on demand) when the screen is on.
I also use Advanced Task Manager($0.99) to kill out the programs I'm using with a widget/button. Whenever I'm done using the device I quickly hit the kill button(which doesn't kill the normal essentials) and shut the screen off which down-clocks the proc to 245mhz.
Today for instance:
-unplugged at 07:00
-GPS on, Wifi Off unless needed, 4G Off, Bluetooth On during travel
-beautiful widgets updating weather every hour via cell triangulation
-stock weather updating every hour
-used for slacker via the AUX jack for 45mins-1hr on the way to work
-1 bluetooth call in between listening to slacker on the car
-about 10-15 calls today while at work
-about 10 emails came in and I read them
-browsed web for prob 20mins during lunch on office wifi
-used for slacker via the AUX jack for 45mins-1hr on the way home
-rebooted device
-made 1 non-bluetooth call, sent a few text messages, and then posted this
I'm now at 61% battery remaining and probably won't charge this until lunch or on the way home from work tomorrow. I would give my up time vs awake time but I restarted the phone an hour ago so those figures aren't there anymore.
So, BS? I think not.
I have read what batteryboss has said but I can tell you I get 3-4 hours longer use from my 2000Mah battery. Now I am seeing a big drop off with Froyo but it is on all my batteries, even the OEM.
clayginn said:
I have read what batteryboss has said but I can tell you I get 3-4 hours longer use from my 2000Mah battery. Now I am seeing a big drop off with Froyo but it is on all my batteries, even the OEM.
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I hear that, I probably lost 20% or more with froyo and immediately reverted back to my DC 3.2.3 build.
I have heard mixed things about batteries that keep the same format as the original, but this is mugen... I'm expecting quality.
I would buy a larger battery it a bigger cover existed though
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I have it and i can say, it gives u about 20-25 % more of battery than standard. Not bad at all. And for 25 dollars, i think it 's a good price
Link plz
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I have it and i can say, it gives u about 20-25 % more of battery than standard. Not bad at all. And for 25 dollars, i think it 's a good price
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If u know where to buy one of those batteries could u post link, plz?
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I have the Mugen Power Battery and i must say it is working well. The extra juice of 300 mAh gives you about 1h more of gaming time ,this means 4 hours instead of 3 hours with standard battery (maximum brightness, no overclocking). With overclocking to 1.5GHZ you will get 3 hours of game time. Battery fits good into the battery slot but it's not as easy to get it in or out of the slot as like the normal one. But thats okay. No problems with the original backcover. You can get one at their official site, just google it. It is safe and you get your package in about 2 weeks normally because it ships from Hong Kong. Or you find a shop which offers Mugen Power Batteries. Remember that the Battery for Xperia X1, Xperia X2 and Xperia X10 share the same battery size.
I have been using mine for a few weeks and I get 5 hours of screen time and like 12 idle(heavy use)
light usage I can't get like 40 hours
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Sounds like a pretty good upgrade.
Well, my first day with the Mugen 1800. :victory:
Right now seems the battery drains much slower than before but it's somewhat difficult to put in place because it fits tighter than the original one. Even I was feared of breaking something while I was trying to put it inside, lol.
So guys, since Mugen Power is having a Countdown discount this Christmas, can anyone make another comment on their 1800mAh batteries for the Xperia PLAY after months/weeks of using it? I might be getting one in the next few hours and I want to make sure I'm not shelling out dollars for a crap battery. I know Mugen has a good rep but reviews talk better. Please guys, say something, convince me!
It's the best battery I have ever seen, it constantly holds like 20% more than the stock, even after 6 months.
You need to be rooted to modify a few settings btw.
It's expensive but if you got the extra money and need more charge, then absolutely go for it.
I constantly got 5+hours of screen time
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And by screen time you mean?
I'm thinking of buying because I think the stock battery is already losing its former juice. It already easily drains 8-10% of juice by just fiddling through SMS conversations. Jeez. Additionally, after I full charge the battery and leave it idle for about 30 minutes, the percentage usually just drops to a whopping 74%. That ain't healthy anymore, right?
I've been using genuine MSM.HK batteries before and they are the best I think. So this is basically my first time to buy and use a Mugen battery.
Screen time means the time that the screen is on.
Normally that's just browsing and chatting etc, gaming time is obviously less but still better than stock.
That is a lot of drain though maybe some rogue app is eating your cpu
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After months of use, i'd say that with 1800mah battery you gain about 20-25 % battery. Not bad, especially for just 24 dollars (i guess less, with these days discount)
If there's one rogue app that keeps running in the background even it was already closed, it would be Camera360. The app is awesome I think especially with the Magic Skin that I rarely see in a camera app so I basically cannot give up the app at the moment.
Now I'm thinking twice. 20-25% more battery cap at $30? I can't really decide because I could easily get a same (or even better) quality genuine MSM.HK battery at stock mAh for a measly $6 at a local battery shop that I can get to in under 30 minutes. Jeez, I'm confused.
PS, it appears $31.95 for me, minus 7% holiday discount so that would be $29.71.
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If there's one rogue app that keeps running in the background even it was already closed, it would be Camera360. The app is awesome I think especially with the Magic Skin that I rarely see in a camera app so I basically cannot give up the app at the moment.
Now I'm thinking twice. 20-25% more battery cap at $30? I can't really decide because I could easily get a same (or even better) quality genuine MSM.HK battery at stock mAh for a measly $6 at a local battery shop that I can get to in under 30 minutes. Jeez, I'm confused.
PS, it appears $31.95 for me, minus 7% holiday discount so that would be $29.71.
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I spent 25.44$ months ago (actually it was $ 27.36 but i got 5% discount for "i like it" their facebook page or somethning like that
For some heavy use the Mugen gives you more confidence with its adittional 20%. I love don't be worried about if my battery will last until I arrive home.
If you usually don't have problems with the stock battery capacity then go for a normal, cheaper replace.
I've heard good reviews for mugen batteries but personally I wouldn't spend that much for a small upgrade.
Yeah @LordBattleBeard, I've thought of that, too.
I actually bought yesterday a genuine MSM.HK BST-41 1500mAh for my Xperia PLAY and I'd say at same mAh, it outperforms my stock battery. No more questionable drains, temps stay constantly at 25 degrees Celsius even while gaming, and playing for 1.5 to 2 hours now only slashes about 15% of juice. I say I just made myself a good deal.
Thanks anyway, everyone, for your insights on the Mugen 1800mAh.
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Yeah @LordBattleBeard, I've thought of that, too.
I actually bought yesterday a genuine MSM.HK BST-41 1500mAh for my Xperia PLAY and I'd say at same mAh, it outperforms my stock battery. No more questionable drains, temps stay constantly at 25 degrees Celsius even while gaming, and playing for 1.5 to 2 hours now only slashes about 15% of juice. I say I just made myself a good deal.
Thanks anyway, everyone, for your insights on the Mugen 1800mAh.
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In the same kind of boat and stuck between the two. Was going to get the BST-41 but was worried by one massive thing, my current battery, not sure about everybody elses, is a Li-ion battery and the BST-41 is a Li-Polymer. Should I be worried or should I just take the plunge?
I think it's just fine. Most handhelds today use Li-Ion alongside Li-Po, and vice versa. I honestly didn't even know that BST-41 was Li-Po until you posted it and I actually had to look at my Play's original battery to confirm.
As for their difference, here are good posts to read:
http://www.batteryeducation.com/2006/04/what_is_the_dif.html
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080504170740AAevnfI
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/15775_How_do_Lithium_batteries_work.php
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I think it's just fine. Most handhelds today use Li-Ion alongside Li-Po, and vice versa. I honestly didn't even know that BST-41 was Li-Po until you posted it and I actually had to look at my Play's original battery to confirm.
As for their difference, here are good posts to read:
http://www.batteryeducation.com/2006/04/what_is_the_dif.html
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080504170740AAevnfI
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/15775_How_do_Lithium_batteries_work.php
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Thanks!
Decided to take the plunge, can't go wrong with and item that costs £3.33!
Wanting more battery life and having reading a few positive reviews about the Gold 3500, I got one from Amazon (UK). The numbers 3500 vs 2500 mah indicate I should get around 40% extra battery life compared to stock but having played with RC cars and helicopters running LiPo packs I know that pack ratings aren't everything.
Actual battery capacity depends on the discharge rate, the more juice you pull the less the effective battery capacity you get with a lot of energy wasted in heat due to internal battery resistance. Fact of life with batteries of all chemistry.
My original battery is about 6 months old now, charged daily from anywhere between 0-50% remaining. In day to day use the Gold does seem to last longer based on my 6 months experience with the original battery but how much better is it?
I charged the batteries in my phone and turned the phone off once it hit 100% but kept the charger on as it seemed to charge for a bit longer.
Using my RC battery charger, I used the discharge function setting the low voltage cut off to 3V (standard for lithium batteries) and set the discharge rate at a constant 300 mah. Using a constant discharge rate may not be realistic but it does allow for a fair comparison, keep in mind that our phones power usage jumps up and down depending on use.
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6 month old stock battery rated at 2500 mah = 2364 mah (which is what I would expect from a battery with 180 cycles on it)
Brand new Gold 3500 rated at 3500 mah = 2524 mah (a bit disappointing but at least as good as a new stock battery)
Now the discharge rate can make a big difference to effective battery capacity, it might be that the 3500 mah rating on the Gold batteries was determined using a very low discharge rate or they discharged it to below 3V.....or its just a gold wrapper over a stock battery
Interesting to note that the stock Sammy battery is pretty true to its rated capacity, so the perceived increase in battery capacity I experienced with the Gold battery is probably just the difference between a 6 month old battery and a new one.
Oh well, at least I have a spare battery now and didn't pay a fortune for the Gold. The Gold does seem to last a bit longer than the 6 month old stock on so I am happy enough with it.
Notes:
Gold battery had been in use for 2 weeks to run it in
Only one discharge cycle was performed
Could be that I have a dud battery, you results may differ
In real day to day use the discharge properties of the Gold may result in a higher 'effective' capacity
Solar flares are the source of all coding errors
Fairies do live at the end of your garden :cyclops:
It's a shame i've read this post only two days after buying me one of those. Anyway, even if it won't last longer, i'd still have a spare battery right? So everything is not lost
nope, its a shame they rate it 3500mah if this is the case for all.
Mignon, maybe your can get a replacement from thrm and test again. Especially if you have a dud.
Do notice I notoce a significant increase in battery life after charging it past 100%. Probably placebo, I dont know.
Don't think I have a dud, in my experience lion batteries either work or don't. It's not a crap battery, it's just as good as stock but doesn't match the advertised 3500 mah rating.
And it's shiny gold so things aren't that bad
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Well that sucks.....haha...i order a gold a week ago.....it should be here soon.....
I got 3500mah gold battery. I review it.
My rom is ultimate rom v5.1, and my stock battery was 11 months old.
Screen on time was always less than 4 hours.
Yesterday I got the gold battery, and I used it up to 1% without first charge, then I charged it 12 hours to initilize the battery.
So unpluged the charge, and tested it as the same usage. I always downclocked to 1000MHz, wifi on, no use 3g data, brightness is zero, bluetooth and gps is off. I downloaded 15 files and apps today, listened to music, did multi windows function, and almost used web browsing.
Now my battery is just 1%. Screen on time is over 5 and half hours. Obviously the battery was improved.
If official JB are released, the battery will be improved more.
But this is not made in Japan. This is made in China because Japanese is so strange on package.
Some of Chinese battery are so dangerous and may be fake, but this gold battery is good one.
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I'm satisfied with this.
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mingonn said:
Don't think I have a dud, in my experience lion batteries either work or don't. It's not a crap battery, it's just as good as stock but doesn't match the advertised 3500 mah rating.
And it's shiny gold so things aren't that bad
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I dropped my stock and it works perfectly till 55% then it dies. Gonna throw it away soon. So some of the cells could be damaged. Its not either they work or dont m8.
@Mingnon thanks for your effortful tests.
@eeynjae, what are all apps spreading around those icons in your notification bar ?
I am pretty sure most mobile 3.7v phone batteries are single cell, only the mugen styled battery extender jobs that require a different back cover run two cells in parallel.
Remaining capacity is usually just a function of cell voltage so it's strange that it should just tank at 55%. Battery protection circuits generally prevent discharge past 3.0 volts so not sure what it's going on there.
Either way it sounds like you need a new battery, wouldn't risk recharging a damaged cell...
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I am pretty sure most mobile 3.7v phone batteries are single cell, only the mugen styled battery extender jobs that require a different back cover run two cells in parallel.
Remaining capacity is usually just a function of cell voltage so it's strange that it should just tank at 55%. Battery protection circuits generally prevent discharge past 3.0 volts so not sure what it's going on there.
Either way it sounds like you need a new battery, wouldn't risk recharging a damaged cell...
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yeah its strange. Stuff started to happen at 50, whrn restarting bat percentage dropped to 10-15%. Without restartingbit would go down normally in beginning. Now after using it some time and dropping it its 55%.
Its definitely it either works or doesnt.
Anyway I dont think it's single cell.
i have the same battery bought it a few months back i'am very satisfied....
it's not a 40% extra time even framework it designed to work with less voltage since after using it below 15% i notice always fake meter value, when you keep your phone asleep for half an hour you will notice an increase in percentage. not accurate but runs fine, its a spare and a great replacement i dont care if it's slightly powerful than stock at least its the same size for 4 extra hours.. i never needed to change case nor a cover of anything its great
Sorry for my off-topic question, but i see in this topic there are advised people recently i bought a noname car charger for my Note, (specs: output 5.5V DC, 800mAh) - is this charger good for the Note or it would damage it? (i read somewhere that the original car charger's output is 5V... this difference of 0.5V has any importance?) Thanks.
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6 month old stock battery rated at 2500 mah = 2364 mah (which is what I would expect from a battery with 180 cycles on it)
Brand new Gold 3500 rated at 3500 mah = 2524 mah (a bit disappointing but at least as good as a new stock battery)
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Thanks for your time and efforts - your results are similar to my amateurish measurements performed twice and reported on the other 3500 battery thread. Having no device to test the actual capacity, I just used the continuous video playback in plane mode with minimal backlight. The time to full discharge was almost identical in both cases.
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Sorry for my off-topic question, but i see in this topic there are advised people recently i bought a noname car charger for my Note, (specs: output 5.5V DC, 800mAh) - is this charger good for the Note or it would damage it? (i read somewhere that the original car charger's output is 5V... this difference of 0.5V has any importance?) Thanks.
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Nobody?
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Nobody?
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It won't damage your phone, but if you are going to use it as a gps while charging, it will probably keep dranig the battery, 800mah is not enough to charge it while screen is on and gps is running
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I dropped my stock and it works perfectly till 55% then it dies. Gonna throw it away soon. So some of the cells could be damaged. Its not either they work or dont m8.
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Some of the cells? Its a 3. 7v Li There is only one cell:silly:
i have been disapointed by this type of battery
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i have been disapointed by this type of battery
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Why is that?
After i've received mine, i've never ran out of battery during my day. Definitively improved the usage of my phone.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/370697502453
I ordered one today for testing. Has anyone else tried these out? For $9/US ship, it seems too good to be true.
Also, here's a 1500mAh for $4/free shipping:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/190686239686
I will be running standardized use tests when they arrive. Will report back here
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/370697502453
I ordered one today for testing. Has anyone else tried these out? For $9/US ship, it seems too good to be true.
Also, here's a 1500mAh for $4/free shipping:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/190686239686
I will be running standardized use tests when they arrive. Will report back here
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please do, I'm interested
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I bought the 4$ OEM off eBay and it was worse than my already dying battery. Then paid for a mugen 1800... not that much better
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I've read mixed reviews on these bargain batteries. We'll see I guess.
There were three 3500s left when I posted this thread.. now there's 2. Who else bought one?
I plan on running stress tests from full charge. (screen on 100%, gps on, wifi, data, fm radio, and google music streaming)
The best battery I used was 2 evo4g 1900 mah batteries for 7$ on eBay. The battery lasted 2 days with decent use but unfortunately I could not get it to charge with the phone on any rom... even though the polarities looked the same as our batteries.. if only..
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I bought the 4$ OEM off eBay and it was worse than my already dying battery.
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Yea the $4 one came in yesterday and after 36 hours I can tell it's not as good as the original oem. It's not horrible and will serve as a decent backup.. but certainly not a DD battery.. no way.
I'm more curious to give the 3500 a spin. Hopefully that arrives today.
Can't wait to hear about the 3.5Ah!
I have a 2.2, I think. Probably could last me three days if I didn't surf and play so much.
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I should mention that I usually end the day with about 50% left.
Today I'm already at 14% at 6pm because I watched two hour-long videos and did all the other surfing stuff as well.
Curious what you use to test your batteries with.
I run Battery Monitor Widget Pro and always wipe stats for a new battery. Great app for tracking battery performance.
-MROM on DInc2
Any news?
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Sorry, I haven't been able to test much. The performance was so crappy the few times I did use it that it hasn't left my shelf ever since. I know I said I was going to do standardized tests but I've been super busy the past few weeks.
As for the anecdote- I charged the 3500 up to 100% and went out for a night on the city at about 2pm. It was dead by 11pm and I was pissed. However, I'm not willing to pass judgement on it yet because I was running PAC at the time which absolutely devoured whatever battery I used.
Now that I'm back on stable CM7 it's a bit different. I'll charge her up tonight and do some comparisons this weekend.
In my experience a battery needs to be exercised a few times before it "matures".
-MROM on DInc2
You're probably right. I'll have some more definitive results on Monday.
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I bought a cheapo battery for my G1 from my favorite cheapo Chinese stuff website - dealextreme.com.
I think I got an extended battery for my OG Droid there as well, long time ago. They were ok.
I absolutely love big batteries. And paying as little as possible for them.
-MROM on DInc2
So I don't have any definitive results. Overall the 3500 does last longer but not by much. I ran it from 100 to 1 twice over the past week and made sure it received standard use and no charges. I have attached 2 screenshots of the drain plus one with the top culprits for drain. Like many 3rd party batteries it tends to take a nosedive once reaching ~18%. You have maybe 10 minutes left when it hits that mark.
My workplace has horrible signal so cell standby is probably much higher for me than it would be for most. For comparison, my OEM lasts about 14-18 hours without a charge.
Bottom line:
3500 mAh linked above- You can't go wrong for $9. It performs like a ~2500mAh. the case is good quality too.
1500mAh linked above - might come to the range with me next time for target practice. That thing is worthless and is maybe good for 4 hours of standard use. Streaming a 1 hour playlist from Google music used approximately 40% of the battery.
Good to hear.
It's sad that we can't trust the ratings on the batteries, but I am glad it worked as well as it did and that the cover was acceptable, too.
I've read a lot of battery reviews on Amazon and even then it's a tough decision to make. Like you said, for the $9 it's ok.
I'll never buy a $50 battery, but if I did I would certainly expect it to perform to the advertised spec. Sadly, the reviews on those batteries are as mixed as the reviews for the cheapies.
-MROM on DInc2
Some interesting information
Bought similar battery a few months ago. On standart battery I has only 10-15% left at evening (music, instant messaging and serfing drains battery wery well), with this enhanced battery my phone lasts 2-3 days. I attached the photo to compare it with default battery.
The main disadvantage of it, suddenly, was the incredibly low signal level (only 1 bar on WCDMA in wooden house, 2-3 bars on GSM), problem was in antenna that is located at the down of back cover. As you can see, two contacts was joined. Just split them, and signal should improve. It helped me, but not too noticeably. So, I have to put copper wire on the back cover and even to prolong it beyond. It looks very ugly, but now signal level is even better than on stock battery (always full signal level on the street even in 3G mode). Low signal level results in higher battery drain and heat.
I don't know why HTC decided to save money on antennas in our phone. Because stock battery cover GSM-antenna is worse than any Nokia (it's much smaller, but in antennas, size matter, a lot). Wi-Fi antenna is bad too.
Also, battery indicator in our phone is not works as it should, I think. 0% is actually not zero level. Real Lithium-Ion battery zero level is 3.2-3.3V (sometimes even smaller, but it's not recommended to to discharge it beyond this level, it may damage battery), but HTC controller tells 0% at 3.5-3.6V and Android forcibly powers off the phone. When I used De-Sensed V firmware, where Android power off function on zero battery level not worked (may be, it was disabled in services.jar, there is the way to do this thing), I could run up to one hour in ICQ on 0% and even some hours in idle mode, before the battery controller blocked battery discharge to protect it (voltage was around 3.2V). It's disappointing that I can't make an urgently call while I actually have the power level enough to do this.
Thank you! Very nice to read your solution for the antenna!
-MROM on DInc2
let us know your results if you do that phone tool
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let us know your results if you do that phone tool
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I have good luck with my antenna, so I doubt I will have to do any fixing.
-MROM on DInc2
AckerMAN_ said:
Bought similar battery a few months ago. On standart battery I has only 10-15% left at evening (music, instant messaging and serfing drains battery wery well), with this enhanced battery my phone lasts 2-3 days. I attached the photo to compare it with default battery.
The main disadvantage of it, suddenly, was the incredibly low signal level (only 1 bar on WCDMA in wooden house, 2-3 bars on GSM), problem was in antenna that is located at the down of back cover. As you can see, two contacts was joined. Just split them, and signal should improve. It helped me, but not too noticeably. So, I have to put copper wire on the back cover and even to prolong it beyond. It looks very ugly, but now signal level is even better than on stock battery (always full signal level on the street even in 3G mode). Low signal level results in higher battery drain and heat.
I don't know why HTC decided to save money on antennas in our phone. Because stock battery cover GSM-antenna is worse than any Nokia (it's much smaller, but in antennas, size matter, a lot). Wi-Fi antenna is bad too.
Also, battery indicator in our phone is not works as it should, I think. 0% is actually not zero level. Real Lithium-Ion battery zero level is 3.2-3.3V (sometimes even smaller, but it's not recommended to to discharge it beyond this level, it may damage battery), but HTC controller tells 0% at 3.5-3.6V and Android forcibly powers off the phone. When I used De-Sensed V firmware, where Android power off function on zero battery level not worked (may be, it was disabled in services.jar, there is the way to do this thing), I could run up to one hour in ICQ on 0% and even some hours in idle mode, before the battery controller blocked battery discharge to protect it (voltage was around 3.2V). It's disappointing that I can't make an urgently call while I actually have the power level enough to do this.
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AckerMAN_ can you give more details about your antenna fix?
I see in the photo that the cover has two plastic fingers that are painted with copper colored paint.
My cover has metal fingers attached to it for the connection. They are like springs.
Can you attach a photo of your antenna wire, please?
This phone is famous for poor signal and many others would be interested in a way to improve reception.
-MROM on DInc2
There is a photo of back cover with attached wire. Also, I attached the screenshot of current reception level. I hope it will be useful.
Also, I'm thing about patching services.jar, I'll try it when have enough time.
Hey guys just a quick simple question, which of these two brands is more reputable and offers higher quality batteries?
http://www.amazon.com/Hyperion-GT-i...843965&sr=8-2&keywords=i9250+extended+battery
http://www.amazon.com/Onite-Extende...843965&sr=8-1&keywords=i9250+extended+battery
Both have good ratings on amazon but I was wondering about guys who actually have these batteries. Is the larger hyperion better than the NFC equipped Onite? FYI I never really use NFC so it is not a factor here. I just want to get the better quality, longer lasting battery.
amd-dude said:
Hey guys just a quick simple question, which of these two brands is more reputable and offers higher quality batteries?
http://www.amazon.com/Hyperion-GT-i...843965&sr=8-2&keywords=i9250+extended+battery
http://www.amazon.com/Onite-Extende...843965&sr=8-1&keywords=i9250+extended+battery
Both have good ratings on amazon but I was wondering about guys who actually have these batteries. Is the larger hyperion better than the NFC equipped Onite? FYI I never really use NFC so it is not a factor here. I just want to get the better quality, longer lasting battery.
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I don't have the Hyperion battery, I instead have once from QCell and the Onite (3500) you linked. I got them since October/Septmeber 2013 and both of them blow the stock (1700) battery away. But my QCell battery seems to last a little bit longer (and I think its a slightly larger capacity battery) but the battery seems to discharge at a weird rate. It rapidly discharges and then it gains back a couple of %. As a result, the battery graph looks very spiky jittery mess. But it still works fine but it may randomly shut down at the 5-10% mark.
Right now, I use the Onite as a daily driver for those reason alone as it doesn't derp like the Qcell does. It definitely falls under the category of not bad. But be warned batteries of this size will make your phone huge, bulky and heavy haha. Picking up a Nexus 5 will make you think its a feather light after using huge batteries on the GNex.
Wifi use at home easily gets me 5-6 hour screen on time with a little more than 2d uptime. The days where I go out the entire day, it would last about 4 hours +/- screen on time (I run at way higher brightness when I'm not at home), BT on when in the car streaming audio for 1 hour, average signal and about 15+ hours uptime because I replug in when I sleep with usually 10-30% to spare. In short, I never run out of battery less than a day of usage. Almost double the battery life of stock battery. With Trinity kernel, you easily gain an extra half an hour of SOT on this battery.
GTA SA though kills the Onite battery flat in 2h 30m of continuos gaming with thermal throttle disabled (Trinity kernel) at 20%+ brightness
amd-dude said:
Hey guys just a quick simple question, which of these two brands is more reputable and offers higher quality batteries?
http://www.amazon.com/Hyperion-GT-i...843965&sr=8-2&keywords=i9250+extended+battery
http://www.amazon.com/Onite-Extende...843965&sr=8-1&keywords=i9250+extended+battery
Both have good ratings on amazon but I was wondering about guys who actually have these batteries. Is the larger hyperion better than the NFC equipped Onite? FYI I never really use NFC so it is not a factor here. I just want to get the better quality, longer lasting battery.
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I would go for the Onite, for sure. Even if I don't really like to use not original battery. I think it's unsafe for the smartphone itself.
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I don't have the Hyperion battery, I instead have once from QCell and the Onite (3500) you linked. I got them since October/Septmeber 2013 and both of them blow the stock (1700) battery away. But my QCell battery seems to last a little bit longer (and I think its a slightly larger capacity battery) but the battery seems to discharge at a weird rate. It rapidly discharges and then it gains back a couple of %. As a result, the battery graph looks very spiky jittery mess. But it still works fine but it may randomly shut down at the 5-10% mark.
Right now, I use the Onite as a daily driver for those reason alone as it doesn't derp like the Qcell does. It definitely falls under the category of not bad. But be warned batteries of this size will make your phone huge, bulky and heavy haha. Picking up a Nexus 5 will make you think its a feather light after using huge batteries on the GNex.
Wifi use at home easily gets me 5-6 hour screen on time with a little more than 2d uptime. The days where I go out the entire day, it would last about 4 hours +/- screen on time (I run at way higher brightness when I'm not at home), BT on when in the car streaming audio for 1 hour, average signal and about 15+ hours uptime because I replug in when I sleep with usually 10-30% to spare. In short, I never run out of battery less than a day of usage. Almost double the battery life of stock battery. With Trinity kernel, you easily gain an extra half an hour of SOT on this battery.
GTA SA though kills the Onite battery flat in 2h 30m of continuos gaming with thermal throttle disabled (Trinity kernel) at 20%+ brightness
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Thanks for that really in depth response, I appreciate it. I will definitely buy the Onite battery. Thank you again.
I bought the Hyperion 2 days ago and here are some screen shots of my usage yesterday, I think I could do better with some modifications...
Cheers from Tx
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