Wanting more battery life and having reading a few positive reviews about the Gold 3500, I got one from Amazon (UK). The numbers 3500 vs 2500 mah indicate I should get around 40% extra battery life compared to stock but having played with RC cars and helicopters running LiPo packs I know that pack ratings aren't everything.
Actual battery capacity depends on the discharge rate, the more juice you pull the less the effective battery capacity you get with a lot of energy wasted in heat due to internal battery resistance. Fact of life with batteries of all chemistry.
My original battery is about 6 months old now, charged daily from anywhere between 0-50% remaining. In day to day use the Gold does seem to last longer based on my 6 months experience with the original battery but how much better is it?
I charged the batteries in my phone and turned the phone off once it hit 100% but kept the charger on as it seemed to charge for a bit longer.
Using my RC battery charger, I used the discharge function setting the low voltage cut off to 3V (standard for lithium batteries) and set the discharge rate at a constant 300 mah. Using a constant discharge rate may not be realistic but it does allow for a fair comparison, keep in mind that our phones power usage jumps up and down depending on use.
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6 month old stock battery rated at 2500 mah = 2364 mah (which is what I would expect from a battery with 180 cycles on it)
Brand new Gold 3500 rated at 3500 mah = 2524 mah (a bit disappointing but at least as good as a new stock battery)
Now the discharge rate can make a big difference to effective battery capacity, it might be that the 3500 mah rating on the Gold batteries was determined using a very low discharge rate or they discharged it to below 3V.....or its just a gold wrapper over a stock battery
Interesting to note that the stock Sammy battery is pretty true to its rated capacity, so the perceived increase in battery capacity I experienced with the Gold battery is probably just the difference between a 6 month old battery and a new one.
Oh well, at least I have a spare battery now and didn't pay a fortune for the Gold. The Gold does seem to last a bit longer than the 6 month old stock on so I am happy enough with it.
Notes:
Gold battery had been in use for 2 weeks to run it in
Only one discharge cycle was performed
Could be that I have a dud battery, you results may differ
In real day to day use the discharge properties of the Gold may result in a higher 'effective' capacity
Solar flares are the source of all coding errors
Fairies do live at the end of your garden :cyclops:
It's a shame i've read this post only two days after buying me one of those. Anyway, even if it won't last longer, i'd still have a spare battery right? So everything is not lost
nope, its a shame they rate it 3500mah if this is the case for all.
Mignon, maybe your can get a replacement from thrm and test again. Especially if you have a dud.
Do notice I notoce a significant increase in battery life after charging it past 100%. Probably placebo, I dont know.
Don't think I have a dud, in my experience lion batteries either work or don't. It's not a crap battery, it's just as good as stock but doesn't match the advertised 3500 mah rating.
And it's shiny gold so things aren't that bad
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Well that sucks.....haha...i order a gold a week ago.....it should be here soon.....
I got 3500mah gold battery. I review it.
My rom is ultimate rom v5.1, and my stock battery was 11 months old.
Screen on time was always less than 4 hours.
Yesterday I got the gold battery, and I used it up to 1% without first charge, then I charged it 12 hours to initilize the battery.
So unpluged the charge, and tested it as the same usage. I always downclocked to 1000MHz, wifi on, no use 3g data, brightness is zero, bluetooth and gps is off. I downloaded 15 files and apps today, listened to music, did multi windows function, and almost used web browsing.
Now my battery is just 1%. Screen on time is over 5 and half hours. Obviously the battery was improved.
If official JB are released, the battery will be improved more.
But this is not made in Japan. This is made in China because Japanese is so strange on package.
Some of Chinese battery are so dangerous and may be fake, but this gold battery is good one.
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I'm satisfied with this.
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mingonn said:
Don't think I have a dud, in my experience lion batteries either work or don't. It's not a crap battery, it's just as good as stock but doesn't match the advertised 3500 mah rating.
And it's shiny gold so things aren't that bad
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I dropped my stock and it works perfectly till 55% then it dies. Gonna throw it away soon. So some of the cells could be damaged. Its not either they work or dont m8.
@Mingnon thanks for your effortful tests.
@eeynjae, what are all apps spreading around those icons in your notification bar ?
I am pretty sure most mobile 3.7v phone batteries are single cell, only the mugen styled battery extender jobs that require a different back cover run two cells in parallel.
Remaining capacity is usually just a function of cell voltage so it's strange that it should just tank at 55%. Battery protection circuits generally prevent discharge past 3.0 volts so not sure what it's going on there.
Either way it sounds like you need a new battery, wouldn't risk recharging a damaged cell...
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I am pretty sure most mobile 3.7v phone batteries are single cell, only the mugen styled battery extender jobs that require a different back cover run two cells in parallel.
Remaining capacity is usually just a function of cell voltage so it's strange that it should just tank at 55%. Battery protection circuits generally prevent discharge past 3.0 volts so not sure what it's going on there.
Either way it sounds like you need a new battery, wouldn't risk recharging a damaged cell...
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yeah its strange. Stuff started to happen at 50, whrn restarting bat percentage dropped to 10-15%. Without restartingbit would go down normally in beginning. Now after using it some time and dropping it its 55%.
Its definitely it either works or doesnt.
Anyway I dont think it's single cell.
i have the same battery bought it a few months back i'am very satisfied....
it's not a 40% extra time even framework it designed to work with less voltage since after using it below 15% i notice always fake meter value, when you keep your phone asleep for half an hour you will notice an increase in percentage. not accurate but runs fine, its a spare and a great replacement i dont care if it's slightly powerful than stock at least its the same size for 4 extra hours.. i never needed to change case nor a cover of anything its great
Sorry for my off-topic question, but i see in this topic there are advised people recently i bought a noname car charger for my Note, (specs: output 5.5V DC, 800mAh) - is this charger good for the Note or it would damage it? (i read somewhere that the original car charger's output is 5V... this difference of 0.5V has any importance?) Thanks.
mingonn said:
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6 month old stock battery rated at 2500 mah = 2364 mah (which is what I would expect from a battery with 180 cycles on it)
Brand new Gold 3500 rated at 3500 mah = 2524 mah (a bit disappointing but at least as good as a new stock battery)
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Thanks for your time and efforts - your results are similar to my amateurish measurements performed twice and reported on the other 3500 battery thread. Having no device to test the actual capacity, I just used the continuous video playback in plane mode with minimal backlight. The time to full discharge was almost identical in both cases.
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Sorry for my off-topic question, but i see in this topic there are advised people recently i bought a noname car charger for my Note, (specs: output 5.5V DC, 800mAh) - is this charger good for the Note or it would damage it? (i read somewhere that the original car charger's output is 5V... this difference of 0.5V has any importance?) Thanks.
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Nobody?
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Nobody?
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It won't damage your phone, but if you are going to use it as a gps while charging, it will probably keep dranig the battery, 800mah is not enough to charge it while screen is on and gps is running
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I dropped my stock and it works perfectly till 55% then it dies. Gonna throw it away soon. So some of the cells could be damaged. Its not either they work or dont m8.
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Some of the cells? Its a 3. 7v Li There is only one cell:silly:
i have been disapointed by this type of battery
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i have been disapointed by this type of battery
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Why is that?
After i've received mine, i've never ran out of battery during my day. Definitively improved the usage of my phone.
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ok so i tested both batteries with a video!
(video = bf3 gameplay 1080p .wmv) looping over and over with mx player
each battery at 100%
stock is i believe 1850 mah
hyperion is 3500 mah
stock lasted 1 hour and 55 minutes at 10%
hyperion at 10% left beat stock by 45 minutes more
doesnt seem great increase in life but its something....any thoughts?
ohh yea i had to leave phone in my Frig because that phone was getting smoking hot
Hm.. I expected it to last longer than that. How long have you had the extended battery?
woah! practically double the size, certainly not double the life.. That's kind of disappointing
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If battery is double the size the we should expect double the usage. 55 stock and 55 + 45 for Hyperion.
Sounds OK to me
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@stemalo,
You missed that it was an hour and 55 for stock. So 115 minutes for stock and 160 minutes for Hyperion. Not so great.
I'm certainly getting close to double the battery life with my hyperion battery.
Perhaps you just got a dud? Also, cold temperatures are not kind to batteries, so that may have skewed results too.
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I'm certainly getting close to double the battery life with my hyperion battery.
Perhaps you just got a dud? Also, cold temperatures are not kind to batteries, so that may have skewed results too.
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battery ive had for about two weeks now...hmm i guess the frig didnt help my results
....well hyperion is like pretty much one hour extra...i guess its something
Some things to keep in mind...
1. New rechargeable batteries (of any chemistry) usually require anywhere from a few to a few dozen charging cycles before reaching peak performance.
2. There's no regulation on how a manufacturer goes about claiming the capacity of a battery, I have no doubt that Hyperion's rating of 3,500mAH probably has a real-life rating more in the neighborhood of 2,700mAH...Especially at such a discounted price.
3. Testing while looping a movie seems like a good indicator. I'd only suggest also putting the phone into airplane mode (to remove the radio from the equation), use an App Manager to make sure nothing else is running and lock the CPU to a specific frequency (if you have SetCPU) during testing.
Even so, 160min vs 115min is about a 40% increase over stock...So 1850mAH increased by 40% is right about 2600mAH, which is right around the range of my #2 statement above.
IMHO, with this 3rd party lesser-known name and at well less than the cost of what the OEM battery costs at -supposedly- half the capacity?...Yeah, I'm setting my own expectations on the low side when I receive mine that I ordered yesterday.
Namuna said:
Some things to keep in mind...
1. New rechargeable batteries (of any chemistry) usually require anywhere from a few to a few dozen charging cycles before reaching peak performance.
2. There's no regulation on how a manufacturer goes about claiming the capacity of a battery, I have no doubt that Hyperion's rating of 3,500mAH probably has a real-life rating more in the neighborhood of 2,700mAH...Especially at such a discounted price.
3. Testing while looping a movie seems like a good indicator. I'd only suggest also putting the phone into airplane mode (to remove the radio from the equation), use an App Manager to make sure nothing else is running and lock the CPU to a specific frequency (if you have SetCPU) during testing.
Even so, 160min vs 115min is about a 40% increase over stock...So 1850mAH increased by 40% is right about 2600mAH, which is right around the range of my #2 statement above.
IMHO, with this 3rd party lesser-known name and at well less than the cost of what the OEM battery costs at -supposedly- half the capacity?...Yeah, I'm setting my own expectations on the low side when I receive mine that I ordered yesterday.
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ohh yea i had the cpu locked at 1.512 with no frills cpu control at performance....screen brightness was about half....i had wifi on...data on...gps on...bluetooth on....
and after all that mess my phone was acting real funky...like it wouldnt send text it would male phone calls...i rebooted and rebooted but it didnt help...i restored a backup and than it all worked....i guess the rom got screwed up or something...
I just got a Hyperion 3500mAh battery for the Motorola photon.
The performance and charge time indicate that it is in fact a 2200mAh battery.
I was disappointed by the deceptive advertising, labeling, and bait and switch.
For the price not bad for a 2200mAh, but I hate the deception so I am going to shout it loud and far across the web, so people know what they are getting in not in fact a 3500mAh battery, but is a 2200mAh battery.
That is all
Hello All,
I toke my HTC One X apart to replace the internal battery with a higher capacity one, as i've tried all the methods listed here to enhance my battery life, but it failed to survive a 12 hours idling - it seems that HTC forgot that the user might use his phone through the day -
anyway, i'm looking for an "INTERNAL" and "HIGHER-CAPACITY" like 2100mAh, 2400mAh battery to replace my 1800 mAh one, any suggestions please?
I don't believe that there is a higher capacity internal battery for the HOX. From what I've read on here is that any higher capacity battery would require the a bigger case for it. Just by opening it up you have now voided your warranty, and any third party manufacturer would not make you void your warranty to increase battery capacity. Your only option is to buy the cases that utilize the pogo pins to increase your battery
thanks for your reply teky, actually i dont care about the warranty, but i believe i can find a higher capacity battery as the iPhone one, i've bought a 2300 mAh from ebay for my old iphone and it was at the same size as its original one, the performance was amazing, it lasted about 2 days with a heavy usage.
Hossam.Abdelsalam said:
thanks for your reply teky, actually i dont care about the warranty, but i believe i can find a higher capacity battery as the iPhone one, i've bought a 2300 mAh from ebay for my old iphone and it was at the same size as its original one, the performance was amazing, it lasted about 2 days with a heavy usage.
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likeliness is, if it wasn't physically bigger, then the mah was no more than the original. probably the fact that the first battery was knackered and just buying a new one seemed like it was lasting longer, when in fact it wasn't lasting any longer than a new original battery..
btw, the battery in the 1x is soft...gg, how were u planning on replacing it.
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i need too an hi-capacity battery, but...is simply to remove the internal battery?
Be careful... A design flaw in the custom battery may cause it to explode.
Every battery I've read about online that promised higher capacity for the same size proved to be a fraud. The best story I saw was posted on the xda-dev forums. The user cut off the outer packaging of the battery to reveal the original battery inside, and printed on this was the real (much lower) capacity.
I don't know much about battery tech :silly:, as I'm about to prove but ... I believe it's basically a chemical reaction that releases power (and the reaction is revered when charging). The capacity of the battery is related to the volume of material available for the reaction, so basically physics is against us on this one.
If it seems too good to be true, it is. If technology were available to produce safe, cheap batteries, of the same size with a higher capacity, why doesn't a single large reputable manufacturer produce what would obviously be a lucrative accessory?
Are we not missing the point that his phone can't do 12 hours idling? My wife's currently very under used one x has managed 7 days and 10 hours from a single charge with 3g on almost zero screen on so true idle.
My used one x can easily make 2days of what I class as moderate use.
There must be some software issue or as Vodafone in Perth did a misconfigured network stopping 3g from going idle and sucking the battery dry.
Cheers
Steve
you can use the battery of the hox+ and get an extra 300mAh ...
but am going to take the batt of my spare one x and see if the battery of the htc butterfly s would fit... you get like an extra 1200mAh
hope it does....
Salim.Keady said:
you can use the battery of the hox+ and get an extra 300mAh ...
but am going to take the batt of my spare one x and see if the battery of the htc butterfly s would fit... you get like an extra 1200mAh
hope it does....
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Please make a thread about that, even if it doesn't fit. Battery life on my HOX is crippling, hardly get 2 hours screen time.
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Please make a thread about that, even if it doesn't fit. Battery life on my HOX is crippling, hardly get 2 hours screen time.
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Same here man but am currently busy with exams to see into this...
For now am using a cover battery 2200mah
And check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=258680.
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I've used my Galaxy Nexus for six months without using a secondary battery. At first I bought the extended battery with extended battery cover, but not only did that make my phone too 'thick', it also seemed that Galaxy Nexus is unable to know which battery is being used, so the battery life seemed incorrect when using the extended battery.
I think this has something to do with the battery info memory that the phone stores.
So I ended up buying a second battery, a replacement battery that is exactly the same as the one I originally have in my Nexus.
But since batteries are still different and are bound to perform differently, I wonder how to manage it correctly? Do I always have to drain the phone completely empty before switching batteries and charging the battery with a separate charging dock? I am worried that the phone considers performance of my battery A as the same as battery B, thus in time ending up with lesser battery life on both due to the confusion.
Are there any tips I should know? I need to use replacement batteries since at times I'm on an extended trips where I might not have the ability to charge the phone, but need to use the phone one way or another.
Thanks!
Ah..... I bought some batteries from Amazon. Cheap, like 20 bucks. They are charged, in my bag, if I run out of juice, I switch and start charging the other one. I still have a 3rd that I've never had to use. Hell I hardly use the 2nd one.
All the other stuff you mentioned, I guess I just don't care about all that. I just know they can hold a charge for quite a while. And that helps me when I need it.
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kristovaher said:
I've used my Galaxy Nexus for six months without using a secondary battery. At first I bought the extended battery with extended battery cover, but not only did that make my phone too 'thick', it also seemed that Galaxy Nexus is unable to know which battery is being used, so the battery life seemed incorrect when using the extended battery.
I think this has something to do with the battery info memory that the phone stores.
So I ended up buying a second battery, a replacement battery that is exactly the same as the one I originally have in my Nexus.
But since batteries are still different and are bound to perform differently, I wonder how to manage it correctly? Do I always have to drain the phone completely empty before switching batteries and charging the battery with a separate charging dock? I am worried that the phone considers performance of my battery A as the same as battery B, thus in time ending up with lesser battery life on both due to the confusion.
Are there any tips I should know? I need to use replacement batteries since at times I'm on an extended trips where I might not have the ability to charge the phone, but need to use the phone one way or another.
Thanks!
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These are Li-ion batteries.. DO NOT DRAIN THEM ALL THE WAY DOWN!
**This shortens the life of the battery**
It is better to charge them whenever you feel like it - these batteries and really almost all phone / laptop batteries these days prefers to be charged in shorter cycles and they also do not need to be charged all the way either - IE lithium ion batteries do not have a memory and do not need to be drained and charged fully.
These ideas come for the ancient Ni-Cad batteries famous in AA rechargeable and cordless phone and really old phones / laptops..
Chances are if your device is less than 5 years old it has Li-Ion batteries and the old school thought will actually shorten the battery life
Battery life meaning the amount of power it holds and the number of charge cycles...
pdxtechdoctor said:
These are Li-ion batteries.. DO NOT DRAIN THEM ALL THE WAY DOWN!
**This shortens the life of the battery**
It is better to charge them whenever you feel like it - these batteries and really almost all phone / laptop batteries these days prefers to be charged in shorter cycles and they also do not need to be charged all the way either - IE lithium ion batteries do not have a memory and do not need to be drained and charged fully.
These ideas come for the ancient Ni-Cad batteries famous in AA rechargeable and cordless phone and really old phones / laptops..
Chances are if your device is less than 5 years old it has Li-Ion batteries and the old school thought will actually shorten the battery life
Battery life meaning the amount of power it holds and the number of charge cycles...
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I usually forget to unplug my phone when I go to sleep. Any bad effects?
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daggerxXxsin said:
I usually forget to unplug my phone when I go to sleep. Any bad effects?
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Nope you can do it all the time
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These are Li-ion batteries.. DO NOT DRAIN THEM ALL THE WAY DOWN!
**This shortens the life of the battery**
It is better to charge them whenever you feel like it - these batteries and really almost all phone / laptop batteries these days prefers to be charged in shorter cycles and they also do not need to be charged all the way either - IE lithium ion batteries do not have a memory and do not need to be drained and charged fully.
These ideas come for the ancient Ni-Cad batteries famous in AA rechargeable and cordless phone and really old phones / laptops..
Chances are if your device is less than 5 years old it has Li-Ion batteries and the old school thought will actually shorten the battery life
Battery life meaning the amount of power it holds and the number of charge cycles...
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You CAN drain them down, as much as the phone allows you. Only deep discharge will harm/kill them.
pdxtechdoctor said:
These are Li-ion batteries.. DO NOT DRAIN THEM ALL THE WAY DOWN!
**This shortens the life of the battery**
It is better to charge them whenever you feel like it - these batteries and really almost all phone / laptop batteries these days prefers to be charged in shorter cycles and they also do not need to be charged all the way either - IE lithium ion batteries do not have a memory and do not need to be drained and charged fully.
These ideas come for the ancient Ni-Cad batteries famous in AA rechargeable and cordless phone and really old phones / laptops..
Chances are if your device is less than 5 years old it has Li-Ion batteries and the old school thought will actually shorten the battery life
Battery life meaning the amount of power it holds and the number of charge cycles...
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You cannot drain battery completely empty with a phone. Phone itself will not allow that to happen. Well, it is technically possible, but you need to do a lot more than just drain it until phone shuts down to make it happen.
My problem is that the phone stores information about battery. But if I use two different batteries (despite being the same type and capacity), during battery switches it will not know the battery life of the second battery and can be wrong (as it guesses it based on first battery). People usually delete batterystats file to reset this information, but that sounds pointless to do after every battery switch.
I guess I'll just discharge one battery to about 50% and then store it for just-in-case purposes.
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-battery-stats-does-not-improve-battery-life/
Just a quick link to help out, if you want more info you'll have to Google it yourself
You can use 2 different size batteries without decreasing their usable life per charge.
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I've own the SGS3 almost since launch day. Soon it will be 2 years old.
I'm getting 3 hours SOT and 24 hours total.
I'm thinking of buying a new original 2100 battery to see if it improves battery life. Would it?
Anyone has tried this?
Thanks.
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I've own the SGS3 almost since launch day. Soon it will be 2 years old.
I'm getting 3 hours SOT and 24 hours total.
I'm thinking of buying a new original 2100 battery to see if it improves battery life. Would it?
Anyone has tried this?
Thanks.
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I haven't tried it yet since I'm hopefully getting a new phone soon but I do believe it would help, maybe an extra hour SOT because I know my battery was amazing back 2 years ago and now I get the same times you do if not worse.
After a year on mine I was only getting 1700mah, So now I get a new Anker 2200mah battery every 6 months because they are just as good as original but do last longer.
Theoretically yes! battery life should improve, as you will be having a new battery.
My battery is just over a year old and i get around a 1d12h worth of battery time and roughly 3.5 to 4 hours SOT.
I recently bought a Pisen 2100mah battery off the internet and for the same SOT i got more usage. maybe 1d 20h nearing the 2d use.
n.b; wifi is always on. i use 3G for like 30 mins during a day
from what I've heard, newer generations of batteries, like ones that ship with SGS3, should not be drained to 0% with phone shutting down. it was advised to charge at low percents like 1% to 5% while phone is still on
Sensamic said:
I've own the SGS3 almost since launch day. Soon it will be 2 years old.
I'm getting 3 hours SOT and 24 hours total.
I'm thinking of buying a new original 2100 battery to see if it improves battery life. Would it?
Anyone has tried this?
Thanks.
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Of course it would and if you dont have problem with size and weight i recomend you to get samsung's 3000mhA battery. Why not getting a bigger battery
It depends how old the battery is though. All Li-ion batteries degrade over time, even if they aren't used. So if you get a 2 year old battery, that has been sitting on a shelf somewhere, it won't help as much as you'd hoped. Depending on the temperature and charge level it was stored at, it could have lost a lot of its capacity.
So the trick is to get a newly manufactured battery, which isn't so easy since most sellers don't write this information.
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Michael_P said:
After a year on mine I was only getting 1700mah, So now I get a new Anker 2200mah battery every 6 months because they are just as good as original but do last longer.
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i've been trying to find an app that measures the actual battery capacity.. i havne't found one yet... what do you use?
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i've been trying to find an app that measures the actual battery capacity.. i havne't found one yet... what do you use?
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try Battery Calibration by Nema, it is on play store
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Of course it would and if you dont have problem with size and weight i recomend you to get samsung's 3000mhA battery. Why not getting a bigger battery
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Since a bigger battery means the battery is thicker,the original back cover wouldn't fit,then you need to use a specific cover which would make your phone heavier.
Right now I am in this trouble,I got a Onite 4500mAh extended battery with a blue cover,hopefully it's a great product, shipping as listed and battery performs exactly as listed,I just don't like the cover,it made my phone looked heavier.I was wondering maybe I should choose a power bank and put back my OEM one on.
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It depends how old the battery is though. All Li-ion batteries degrade over time, even if they aren't used. So if you get a 2 year old battery, that has been sitting on a shelf somewhere, it won't help as much as you'd hoped. Depending on the temperature and charge level it was stored at, it could have lost a lot of its capacity.
So the trick is to get a newly manufactured battery, which isn't so easy since most sellers don't write this information.
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This is true. You also need to account for your usage. If you do a lot of activity that heats your battery up (games, navigation, etc.) Then even a shelf stored battery will help since heat is another Li-ion killer.
My S3 was 2 years old in May of this year. I have been having issues with the battery and charging. My USB charging port has the classic loose connection issue as does the headphone jack. I see the fix and YouTube videos to repair but have not yet done that. I last week got my new OEM Samsung battery and the external charging kit. I just upgraded to Kitkat 4.4.2 NDA8 despite being eligible for a new phone discount from Sprint. My S3 is a 32gb unit and I will not buy a S5 with only 16gb, no way no how.
The new battery is performing very well. It is so close on updating to 4.4.2 that I can not be certain that there were not issues with my rooted 4.1.2 build after so many months. For sure the new battery is lasting longer. I think it was worth the $42.03 spent on the charger and battery as my USB port is in question and I can always swap batteries and charge with the external charger.
My S3 has a new lease on life and I can wait for new tech before upgrading. xda developers forum - root - and the desire for liberty is a powerful combination.
why not try using wireless charging? the qi reciever + charger should not cost you mote than 35 bucks. and you can still use your current battery, battery cover, & nfc, unlike powermat.
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A 2 year battery will definitely be worn-out. Depending on the charging cycle count, could be only a 20%,but maybe a 50 or 70%.
I bought a Zerolemon 7000mAh battery few months a go, I'm usually getting 4-5 days on normal usage, and 11-13h of screen on.
Best bought I have ever made.
Phone totally goes black/dies when battery is 21% down to 10%. does this just mean the battery I have is bad? What replacement battery is best? I've read Anker makes a good set with charger. Thanks.
Samsung SDI batteries are the only batteries I've known to do this. When screen goes black, that should be a shutdown. Do you plug in your charger at that time? Mine actually actually showed 0%.
It's inconvenient for a battery to shutdown unexpectedly, while showing capacity remaining. I always replace Samsung OEM batteries with another brand. I found one that I liked so l went to Amazon and bought a second plus external charger from same brand. If looking at another alternative, just search MPJ and read the reviews. The battery and wall charger were on sale last week, maybe still.
If you're considering upgrading to sealed battery in unibody phone, you should consider the care required for such a phone to get battery to last. Sealed batteries are actually very similar in capability and ratings; no leap in tech but apparent shortcoming evident in Note7 embarrassment. Fast charging produces heat and steals life from battery's endurance down the road. Studies have shown since lithium batteries have no memory that you're actually prolonging the battery by slow charging without load or minimum load and bump charging rather than cycling battery to near 0% then back to 100%. Manufacturers don't tell you that because they prefer you wear your battery down in less than a year's time and consider another phone purchase.
Maybe Samsung would be better off today if consumers were more aware of how to prolong lithium batteries?
If you want your battery to last two years, bump charge it after 25% used as much as possible; it shouldn't even matter if you bump charge it 3x per day. Avoid fast charging and heat cycles. IOW, try not to use it while charging; the cycles should be short anyway.
Or, if you prefer to abuse a removable battery like the Note 4 and care less, pay about $15 and just replace the battery every year. 500 full cycles is all these batteries are currently rated for due to increased degradation with abuse. Mini cycles allows more of those cycles without degradation but you'll still have capacity when you need it to last a long day without charging.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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Wow thanks for all the information. What does bump charge mean exactly? Now my battery won't charge passed 90% either. A different one is on the way.
Toyeboy said:
Wow thanks for all the information. What does bump charge mean exactly? Now my battery won't charge passed 90% either. A different one is on the way.
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Try this, if you are rooted and have recovery wipe dalvik cache and cache. Power off phone and pull battery for like 5-10min. Hold the power button (with battery out) for like 1-2min. After letting battery sit out for 5-10min reboot and see what happens. If same instances occur. Your battery is dead just purchase a new one! Anker recommended!
Toyeboy said:
Wow thanks for all the information. What does bump charge mean exactly? Now my battery won't charge passed 90% either. A different one is on the way.
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You're welcome.
Bump charging is partially charging before battery gets low. An example would be running the battery down 25% and charging without overcharging it.
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Had the same issue, bought a new Anker and issues resolved, the stock Samsung sucks!
I'm just glad there's a way to replace it that'll mean this phone can last a long time if I'm careful with it.
Yeah it must be these batteries. My mom has the Note 4 as well and hers does the same thing. As does mine
g355150 said:
Yeah it must be these batteries. My mom has the Note 4 as well and hers does the same thing. As does mine
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Yes the stock Samsung batteries are horrible. They don't last very long then they start misrepresenting the battery statistics to the OS so you get the shutdowns at 20 or so %. I switched to a twenty$ Anker I found on Amazon over 6 months ago and never had the issue occur again. Even thy sprint techs will tell you if you ask them outright!
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