Aosp battery worse than stock? D851 - G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Im not a heavy user on my phone must graphically intense thing i do is probably my live wallpaper with all my home screens filled with full screen widgets other than that its just social media. But i must say the battery life is just terrible on a aosp rom or cm12 (D851 here tmo ). On stock lg i could leave my phone on 100% over night and wake up and it'll be on either 99 or 100 but on cm12 its a whole different story when i tried that i woke up with my battery on 76 %. and just using the phone will only get me max 4h screen on time currently i run cloudy pro 1.2 and i get around around 2 days of usage while cm12 i get only 10h max. Im very confused everyone seems to hate lg stock cause of the battery but why dont i achieve getting like 6h screen on as some users report or at least a day and a half's use.
Basically what im trying to say is what am i doing wrong i tried bliss-pop and candy5 latest versions with amplify to stop draining wakelocks
what rom combo do you use with your kernel and kernel settings to get a day or possibly more because thats the only reason i dont want to go to lollipop
( sorry for poor english ) also nothing seems to be draing battery even if so i tried multiple lollipop roms soo..

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Best ROM for battery life

What ROM's are you using and what do you think has the best battery life? I love my DHD but my biggest pain with it is it's battery life, I would love to get around 15 hours of moderate-heavy use out of it, but right now I only get between 8-10 hours of it, I've tried LeeDroid, Revolution and CyanogenMod. Which custom rom do you think is best for battery life?
in my humble opinion i would say CM7... thats after a fresh flash, battery calibration, and one full charge till total discharge (sometimes i like to do it two times just to make sure the bat stats get proper readings)... Maybe its just me but i usuall get around 15-18 hours depending... I would say that i am a medium to heavy user...mainly surf the web, movies, mp3s, text, light emails and of course downloading new roms and themes to flash...
Other than cm7 i find that RCMix and revolution to be pretty decent on battery life
U can always use currency widget to determin power loss and check whats soaking up your power
I'm no expert but so far this has worked for me
i've flashed a few roms over the last few weeks and i must say that they are all pretty decent in terms of battery life. i haven't really noticed one being significantly better than the next.
i can easily kill my phone within 7-8 hours with heavy usage but i can also keep my phone going for about 30 hours with light usage and about 16 hours with moderate usage, using the same rom.
if you asked me, i think it just depends on your style of usage. perhaps this isn't the answer you're looking for but i really don't think there's one rom out there that is going to give you that edge.
If you are looking for battery, use MIUI Freshly squeezed versions...CM7 was my first ROM, I loved it but battery life was terrible.. I could hardly squeeze out 12-13 hours even on low usage..MIUI is great! I easily get 15-20 hrs plus battery on moderate usage(wifi connected most of the time, abt 30 min gaming etc)..I bet if u try u'll see the difference.....
thanks for the replies, I think you're right with how you use it. Going to try MIUI now as well
aradhyat said:
If you are looking for battery, use MIUI Freshly squeezed versions
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+1
but i use leedroid_hd_GB_3.0.1
Leedroid's roms always have very good battery life
Also bare in mind the radio you use has a big affect. I used the stock radio from December with Android Revolution when I first flashed it and my battery drain was extremely bad, about 15% an hour. Flashed some new radios and I get at least 18 hours before I hit 30%.
Yup radio plays a very important role.I tried 6-7 different radios before I found the right one.....
tuckerson said:
thanks for the replies, I think you're right with how you use it. Going to try MIUI now as well
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If it is not important for you to lose HTC sense, MIUI is nice in spite of the fact that it looks like too much the firmware of the iphone
CM 7.0.0 HAS a bad battery drain but its fixed in the cyanogenmod 7.0.2... now the battery works for a long time.. 24 30 hrs moderate use..
and finally if you are interested for a better battery drain try SETCPU.apk (free for XDA MEMBERS) AND configure your proccessor for a conservative work or setdown de cpu (900 mhz for example)
under my experience with the custom roms leedroid (lastest froyo 2.2.1 with leedroid kernel 2.2.9 at 960 mhz max) was provided the best battery drain
Yup MIUI does look like iOS...That was one of the reason I didn't pay much attention to it at first.
You can always use a good launcher like ADW or Launcher Pro to replace the iOS feel...I personally am a fan of Go Launcher EX...its simple n fast n serves my purpose
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Yup MIUI does look like iOS...That was one of the reason I didn't pay much attention to it at first.
You can always use a good launcher like ADW or Launcher Pro to replace the iOS feel...I personally am a fan of Go Launcher EX...its simple n fast n serves my purpose
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ouu!good idea!!! i like miui´s performance but i don´t like his app drawer hahah
Newest Android Revolution HD + matching radio.img and MDJ's kernel v8 and good SetCPU settings makes for a REALLY fast DHD ( 1.6GHz ) and great battery life, a full day with medium to heavy usage from what I've experienced so far.
Used MIUI for the last day, really impressed, except for the iPhoneish feel as been said above. Going to try the setcpu too so I can underclock
I'm using the recommended radio too, which I always make sure I do, I rely on that for improved signal as well, the reception around my place is quite dodgy. Vodafone is Australia's equivalent of AT&T in America in terms of dodgy reception ha
My DHD is now running CyanogenMod7 2.3.5 Nightly and it drains about 1% every two hours idle. I think that's good.
Can anyone make a comparison table?
ARHD 5.2.3............almost 36 hours with regular use here.............24 hours atleast..................
rohithksaj said:
ARHD 5.2.3............almost 36 hours with regular use here.............24 hours atleast..................
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Same here, although needs quicker recharging when using WiFi intensely (after about 12 hours in my case.)
as i think android rev. 5.2.x ,, the greatest bettary life for me
and also i think in general sense 3 roms are very bad in bettary life
Dark Helmet said:
Same here, although needs quicker recharging when using WiFi intensely (after about 12 hours in my case.)
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i used to get 24hours even using wifi for ARHD 5.2.3+sense 3 components.....
but now i a using some extras other than sense 3[like transparent rosie,clock....so oon]
now my battery drains fast when using wifi...like you...............................

[Q] Cyanogenmod 10 battery life on normal usage.

Hi guys,
I recently switched to CM 10 (Android 4.1.2) and the battery life is significantly lower than what I had on the stock ROM and the new Sense UI... I guess.
My phone won't run longer than 10-15 hours a day with normal usage, which means Wi-fi and 3G always on, screen on automatic brightness being used for about 1 hour in total (for one charge). However Android OS, Cell Standby and Phone Idle still account for the most battery usage, which I find weird. I have no wakelocks and my device goes to deep sleep when not used.
Is this normal behavior with the new Cyanogenmod and Jellybean or are my expectations too high? I already read most threads concerning battery life, but most of them discuss problems such as wakelocks or similar issues. My question relates to the normal behavior of CM 10.
I am grateful for all replies on the matter or personal experiences.
It's known that CM10 battery life is worse than stock JB. You can try different kernels and different governors, but it's a trade-off between life and performance.
BenPope said:
It's known that CM10 battery life is worse than stock JB. You can try different kernels and different governors, but it's a trade-off between life and performance.
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I don't understand, I thought that CM is stripped out of unnecessary background processes and apps. As long as I'm not using any CPU or GPU intensive apps like games it should consume less battery than the stock ROM. Is there something I'm missing?
Maybe the updated kernel and drivers give better power effeciency. When the JB kernel source is released, hopefully CM10 and other AOSP ROMs will also improve.
You were saying about on screen time?
Sent from my faster than SGS3 HOX.
CM 10 really uses a lot of battery but of you could switch off wifi and 3g when not using, and clearing all the apps frequently in the recent menu may help... My battery then lasts from about the start of the day till night though the batterys now quite old.
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i got a weird battery life yesterday, i was walking from work to home, i started watching videos on youtube, looked at the battery, 31%, after few videos looked again, still 31%, i walked 41 mins with a total of 9% of battery drain, i also played a game for about 25 mins, it was a really battery life.
BenPope said:
Maybe the updated kernel and drivers give better power effeciency. When the JB kernel source is released, hopefully CM10 and other AOSP ROMs will also improve.
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Allright... just gonna have to play the waiting game.
XxVcVxX said:
You were saying about on screen time?
Sent from my faster than SGS3 HOX.
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That... is not possible! How the hell did you achieve that?
Mansehej said:
CM 10 really uses a lot of battery but of you could switch off wifi and 3g when not using, and clearing all the apps frequently in the recent menu may help... My battery then lasts from about the start of the day till night though the batterys now quite old.
Sent from my NexusHD2 using xda premium
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That's pretty much my battery life as well. Regarding age, I'm really concerned, as I'm not able to open the phone and just replace it. But I guess that much better smartphones will come along before I consider getting a new battery and it won't be worth it any more.
hopeless12 said:
i got a weird battery life yesterday, i was walking from work to home, i started watching videos on youtube, looked at the battery, 31%, after few videos looked again, still 31%, i walked 41 mins with a total of 9% of battery drain, i also played a game for about 25 mins, it was a really battery life.
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I get that sometimes as well. I pick up the phone a couple of times and the battery is always at, say, 50%. Then, a couple of hours later I read a message and it suddenly jumps to 41 or lower. But from what I've read that's normal and no cause of concern.
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You were saying about on screen time?
Sent from my faster than SGS3 HOX.
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I heard what causes the CM10 to have such an awful battery life is something that was supposed to save power when you lock your phone [Which is normally quiet often] and actually causes it to depelt, so it obvoiusly doesn't affect screen time
CM10 is a horrible ROM, get something else... I used LiquidSmooth for a while, it's a great ROM
Now running ParanoidAndroid 2.53
Btw, Stock ROM had a wonderful battery life, I only realize that now ... lots of ROMs can't reach that much
SrebX said:
I heard what causes the CM10 to have such an awful battery life is something that was supposed to save power when you lock your phone [Which is normally quiet often] and actually causes it to depelt, so it obvoiusly doesn't affect screen time
CM10 is a horrible ROM, get something else... I used LiquidSmooth for a while, it's a great ROM
Now running ParanoidAndroid 2.53
Btw, Stock ROM had a wonderful battery life, I only realize that now ... lots of ROMs can't reach that much
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That's exactly what I did, flashed the old RUU and installed all updates. I don't know how the guys from HTC managed to do it, but the battery life on Android 4.1.1 and Sense 4+ is AMAZING. I easily get 24 hours with normal usage, over 2 days if I'm really careful.
This is what I got during a night sleep with cm 10.
I installed it yesterday so its kinda new tot me. What causes this?
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Probably some nasty wakelocks. Install with wipe/factory reset if you didn't so already. Then try betterbatterystats (search xda) to find out what is causing wakelocks.

[Q] Can firmware be related to battery life?

Hi all
This may seem like a stupid question but I'm racking my brain for solutions.
Previously I've been quite impressed with the battery life on the M8, however recently updated to the most recent firmware so I can use the current version of ARHD and since then I've seen a considerable reduction in battery life. For example, today I've been off charge for just under 12 hours and have used the device very little (1 hour 26 of screen on time) and I'm down to 20%, with screen usage right at the top of the battery use chart. I've tried different ROMS, into a GPE ROM, only to see this poor life continue.
The handset was bought from Three in the UK, and on baseband 1.19.21331147A1.09G-20.57.4196.01L_F.
I'm at a bit of a loss basically, and trying to narrow down a culprit. If anyone has got any ideas I'd be very thankful.
munkimatt said:
Hi all
This may seem like a stupid question but I'm racking my brain for solutions.
Previously I've been quite impressed with the battery life on the M8, however recently updated to the most recent firmware so I can use the current version of ARHD and since then I've seen a considerable reduction in battery life. For example, today I've been off charge for just under 12 hours and have used the device very little (1 hour 26 of screen on time) and I'm down to 20%, with screen usage right at the top of the battery use chart. I've tried different ROMS, into a GPE ROM, only to see this poor life continue.
The handset was bought from Three in the UK, and on baseband 1.19.21331147A1.09G-20.57.4196.01L_F.
I'm at a bit of a loss basically, and trying to narrow down a culprit. If anyone has got any ideas I'd be very thankful.
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I think so, I've been having problems with mine recently but I thought it was because I'd rooted and then unrooted back to stock this week. Now I suspect it might have something to do with the latest FW. I'm managing around 18 hours but there's something keeping the phone awake so it can't get into a full sleep and save the juice.
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I think so, I've been having problems with mine recently but I thought it was because I'd rooted and then unrooted back to stock this week. Now I suspect it might have something to do with the latest FW. I'm managing around 18 hours but there's something keeping the phone awake so it can't get into a full sleep and save the juice.
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Hi guys. I'm on the latest FW2.22.401.4 too. On my main uni (rooted but stock) I'm not confronting such problems. But on my secondary unit with ViperOne (M8) installed I'm having such problems sometimes (not always). Think this is quite wired, as Venom works with the stock kernel ....
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[Q] Can firmware be related to battery life?
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Absolutely. Firmware contains radio baseband, which IMO cell reception is one of the greatest contributors to battery drain (aside from the more obvious factors like screen on time, runaway wakelocks, etc.). It could be that the new radio does not happen to play well in your area. This would also explain if some folks are getting better battery life than you on the same firmware, as reception is often a local factor.

Downgrading to Android 4.4?

I am very upset with low battery life. It holds the charge ok while I am not doing anything, but overheats when I use the internet, GPS or camera. Power loss is about 20% per hour, which is unacceptable. I am shocked how come they can even bring such products to the market.
I recall that power consumption significanlty increased when I upgraded Sony Xperia Z1 from Android 4.4 to 5.
I have a rooted LG G4.
I want to install android 4.4 on it. Is it possible to install standard version of Android 4.4 or the phone will stop working?
I can definitely relate to the bad battery life, I lose 20%+ when using my phone during my lunch break, it's insane.
Unfortunately the bootloader is locked with no workaround currently, so there is no way to flash custom ROMs. If there was, you'd be hard pressed to find a developer working on an older Android OS as most tend to use the stock ROM and customize it or use a newer version of AOSP Android.
geoff5093 said:
I can definitely relate to the bad battery life, I lose 20%+ when using my phone during my lunch break, it's insane.
Unfortunately the bootloader is locked with no workaround currently, so there is no way to flash custom ROMs. If there was, you'd be hard pressed to find a developer working on an older Android OS as most tend to use the stock ROM and customize it or use a newer version of AOSP Android.
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Thank you for information. I hope they will come up with something, like downgrade capability or Android 5 fix.
Go into battery stats and see what's draining your battery. Try installing GSAM battery monitor or BetteryBatteryStats.
Maybe you have email set up to constantly check or something else, but there is something draining the battery. Your drain is not normal.
I am getting easily 24 hours between charges. I'm getting a few hours of screen on time each day. My battery drain overnight is about 1% or 2% per hour. For example, I may go from 78% to 68% overnight. I think that's high because I had my G3 on Lollipop doing 2% or so most nights. I leave on WiFi and data all night.

Battery problems?

I know, our device has really great battery life and I don't have anything to complain about that, but a friend of mine just got himself a new phone and his values make me a bit jealous and most of all: surprised and stunned.
He got himself a Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 (SD 625 variant, MKT variant really sucks), it has the same processor, same display and not even 700 mAh more (4100 mAh) and he got with some "dev rom" (made by Xiaomi, seems to just be the beta of that ugly MIUI 9, based on Andorid 7.0) 6h of SOT, doze seems to haven't really kicked in in that time. in their forum in the SOT thread I see people getting normally about 8-10 with up to over 12 h of SOT, most of them on stock ROM without any additions. And I'm quite irritated about that huge of a difference with not that much more battery. And he seems quite convinced that it's not on the cost of performance, you should notice that quickly on such a heavily skinned ROM.
Now my question is: how in hell is that even possible? I mean our devices seem quite comparablewith just a slight bump in battery but near-stock AOSP Android against pretty much an iOS clone. Does anyone have any idea what could cause that big of a difference? And if it's software based could that be done on our device? Because my experience and from different posts our device lasts about 5-6 h normally.
I mean I'm already lucky about my 2 days of usage with up to about 2.5 days on some weekends where I have a lot of stuff to do. But I wouldn't mind a bit of extra. But my biggest problem with that is as simple as: how? I could really use some explaination right now...
I don't have issues with device.. stock 7.1.1 with dec.patch, unlocked bootloader, with latest magisk. Also installed greenify.
Then you are one of very rare cases. My experience is about half of that.
And I also meant on stock ROM, without any modifications. So I don't know which apps you greenified, but that was not the point. I use Greenify too but more for apps that aren't supposed to run constantly in background when I only use it very seldomly.
The norm for this phone is 8+ hours SOT. Sometimes I get 10 and a few have had up to 12. Unless you're gaming 8 should be easy. 5 hours means something is wrong with your phone hardware, you have a rogue battery eating app or you're gaming. I rarely charge my phone over the weekend even when I use it a lot.
Well, neither of that is the case and I rarely see people claiming more than 6h of SOT
So the answer to your question is, it's the wrong question. The question should be, why does my battery not last very long and what apps or usage causes me to have such poor battery life? Compared to the Redmi Note 4 the Z Play is exactly where it should be.
Here's a link to the SOT thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/review/screen-time-t3643959
gsmarena battery life test 100h endurance rating: https://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3?idPhone=8310#show
Here's an app to help diagnose battery condition (Accubattery): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.digibites.accubattery&hl=en
also betterbatterystats is really helpful.
I sincerely hope you get it sorted out!
Well, gsam isn't detecting any app that's off even with root so I don't think there is any. I installed that AccuBattery app, let's see what it has to say
Removed because of ****ty q&a system...
Oh, and another thing I noticed: I get very randomly reboots, and every time the battery percentage drops massively. Just had a 30% drop. And after the reboot the battery percentage seems like frozen. Now I rebooted and plugged in the cable and got 44% again... No fast charging. Do that detection seems very off
Motorola forum isn't helpful at all. Clearing cache and dalvik didn't change anything and running around for a week in secure mode (that's how random they mostly are) or even doing a factory reset without restoring apps is out of question for obvious reasons.
That's pretty weird. Did you try a factory reset and after restore your apps? There's not a lot you can do if you're not rooted, but you shouldn't need to do much anyway on stock rom.
Only other option is full RSD lite OS restore as a last resort.
I am rooted for long, that's why I use Greenify. I know it also works without but then it's a joke. As RSD lite is, it just refuses for everyone to detect anything on Windows 10.
Factory reset is out of question for the moment, it takes way too long to do it properly (with titanium and NANDroid backup first) and I won't have that much time probably for the whole of this month. Otherwise I would most likely already have went off to the next best custom ROM since Motorola just can't get their **** together and still work on 8.0 in test for 2.5 month with searching testers for another one.
I think the next thing I'll do is to try the good old battery calibration, just have to find the file storing the statistics. I know many say that won't work but that's rubbish, it worked for me already a few times
Update: no, no change. Don't know if that funky battery percentage bug on random reboots still happen since I haven't had any again yet, but they come too random and unpredictable.
And that AccuBattery just proves to be worthless. It tries to estimate the rest capacity, but then it even fails to detect original capacity by 500 mAh. The battery sucker stats are also unrealistic. It puts chrome first with 10%, while GSam with root puts it 5th at 4.6% after kernel, Spotify, Android system and fight services. Android itself even puts it 9th with screen, phone idle, cell standby, Android OS and Bluetooth in-between.
So let's see what happens first. Motorola releasing 8.0, which I will flash through the .xml.zip, this time using flashfile.xml which should force a factory reset... Or me finding the time to switch to a custom ROM
Edit: so I got another one, bit this time no crazy battery drop. But the other times I killed of the soft reboot sequence because Magisk can have some problems with that. This time I didn't
Yesterday I was finally able to do the factory reset since those darn random reboots became too annoying and Moto's support is had just the most ridiculous ideas... In the worst way.
Either way, now OTA looks better, let's see how it will turn out in the next days

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