Downgrading to Android 4.4? - Verizon LG G4

I am very upset with low battery life. It holds the charge ok while I am not doing anything, but overheats when I use the internet, GPS or camera. Power loss is about 20% per hour, which is unacceptable. I am shocked how come they can even bring such products to the market.
I recall that power consumption significanlty increased when I upgraded Sony Xperia Z1 from Android 4.4 to 5.
I have a rooted LG G4.
I want to install android 4.4 on it. Is it possible to install standard version of Android 4.4 or the phone will stop working?

I can definitely relate to the bad battery life, I lose 20%+ when using my phone during my lunch break, it's insane.
Unfortunately the bootloader is locked with no workaround currently, so there is no way to flash custom ROMs. If there was, you'd be hard pressed to find a developer working on an older Android OS as most tend to use the stock ROM and customize it or use a newer version of AOSP Android.

geoff5093 said:
I can definitely relate to the bad battery life, I lose 20%+ when using my phone during my lunch break, it's insane.
Unfortunately the bootloader is locked with no workaround currently, so there is no way to flash custom ROMs. If there was, you'd be hard pressed to find a developer working on an older Android OS as most tend to use the stock ROM and customize it or use a newer version of AOSP Android.
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Thank you for information. I hope they will come up with something, like downgrade capability or Android 5 fix.

Go into battery stats and see what's draining your battery. Try installing GSAM battery monitor or BetteryBatteryStats.
Maybe you have email set up to constantly check or something else, but there is something draining the battery. Your drain is not normal.
I am getting easily 24 hours between charges. I'm getting a few hours of screen on time each day. My battery drain overnight is about 1% or 2% per hour. For example, I may go from 78% to 68% overnight. I think that's high because I had my G3 on Lollipop doing 2% or so most nights. I leave on WiFi and data all night.

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Some Help in choosing a new ROM. (a few questions)

Hey everyone, this is my first post in this great forum.
I am looking for some help in choosing a new ROM for my HTC desire, the main thing i want to see is the new Gingerbread OS 2.3 and the improvements it brings (battery life), but sadly it has not been officially released to the Desire platform.
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Okay now Im on CM7, probably gonna try oxygen later, but till now CM7 suits all my needs and the battery seems good (20 to 26 hours heavy usage) but im running into a small problem.
at 9% the battery dies and phone turns off, battery and phone seem somehow out of sync so 9% means 2% or something, how can i fix this and make it turn off at 2% ?
If it's battery life you're interested in, Oxygen is pretty awesome, but it's AOSP so doesn't have any Sense stuff (widgets, messaging app, camera etc) - there's stuff on the market that provides equivalents/better versions though.
I've just flashed a sense ROM a couple of days ago after coming from Oxygen and I'm missing Oxygen so much that I'll be going back to it tonight It's very fast and stable.
But if you want to stay with Sense, this ROM is as close to stock Gingerbread (with Sense) as you'll get http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124810
People have been getting good battery life with that but I've not had too much luck getting great results. It's very smooth though
EDIT: CyanogenMod 7 I can't tell you too much about as I've only briefly flashed it. I remember it didn't feel as "clean" as oxygen but it had a huge amount of customisation potential (though saying that, the latest Oxygen build has almost as much, with the ThemeChooser). Also I don't think CM7's battery life is as good as Oxygen's.
What I'd do if I were you: Flash the CM7r2 HBOOT from http://alpharev.nl/ then flash Oxygen/CM7/SGBS depending on what you want to try first - all 3 work on that HBOOT so if you don't like one you can just flash another quite easily.
Make sure you know what you're doing flashing HBOOT though as there's a risk of bricking associated with it. So just read up first.
cgmorris89 said:
If it's battery life you're interested in, Oxygen is pretty awesome, but it's AOSP so doesn't have any Sense stuff (widgets, messaging app, camera etc) - there's stuff on the market that provides equivalents/better versions though.
I've just flashed a sense ROM a couple of days ago after coming from Oxygen and I'm missing Oxygen so much that I'll be going back to it tonight It's very fast and stable.
But if you want to stay with Sense, this ROM is as close to stock Gingerbread (with Sense) as you'll get http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124810
People have been getting good battery life with that but I've not had too much luck getting great results. It's very smooth though
EDIT: CyanogenMod 7 I can't tell you too much about as I've only briefly flashed it. I remember it didn't feel as "clean" as oxygen but it had a huge amount of customisation potential (though saying that, the latest Oxygen build has almost as much, with the ThemeChooser). Also I don't think CM7's battery life is as good as Oxygen's.
What I'd do if I were you: Flash the CM7r2 HBOOT from http://alpharev.nl/ then flash Oxygen/CM7/SGBS depending on what you want to try first - all 3 work on that HBOOT so if you don't like one you can just flash another quite easily.
Make sure you know what you're doing flashing HBOOT though as there's a risk of bricking associated with it. So just read up first.
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Thanks.
I decided to try CM7 7.0.3 for a while and i like it. Alot of customization and some neat features, but the downside is that i dont feel like the Battery consumption has changed at all, its still as i have had my 2.2 froyo stock i think.
I did a small measurment of battery consumtion please tell me if i should be getting these results:
First
-Phone with CM7 rom Charged at 96%
(turned on wifi for like 10minutes, did around 6 phone calls, 1hour looking around settings, animated wallpaper activated for an hour)
After exactly 6hours the battery went down to 76%
So in 6hours the battery decreased 20%
Is this a good result? Will I be getting better battery life in the Oxygen rom ? If so i will definitely switch to Oxygen.
Well that's not exactly bad. I'm currently on 42% after 20 hours 30 minutes with WiFi on syncing emails every hour, a bit of browsing, over an hour of gaming (trial xtreme), some texting, about 20 minutes of calls and some music playing too. Idle it probably uses less than 1% per hour. I'm on the latest oxygen.
I'm really happy with this battery life
I'd recommend downloading battery calibration from the market to get the most from your battery.
Redux is a good ASOP ROM with good battery life - its quite stripped down.
For a sense ROM - I like LeeDroid.
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I'd recommend downloading battery calibration from the market to get the most from your battery.
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Or completely ruin it. Battery calibration is to be used only if your battery percentage is out of sync with real mV status, so your phone ends up dead at say, 10%. It is not to be used to decrease battery consumption, which is not going to happen. Ever.
To OP, it boils down to your preference. I couldn't care less for ota updates, but if you do, flash ruu, or maybe even rooted stock would work, I'm not sure about that though. As for battery consumption, you had 1 hour screen on, some calls and texts. I'd call that fair.
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Or completely ruin it. Battery calibration is to be used only if your battery percentage is out of sync with real mV status, so your phone ends up dead at say, 10%. It is not to be used to decrease battery consumption, which is not going to happen. Ever.
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Yeah you're right. I meant battery monitor widget. It was late at night, forgive me
Battery monitor widget gives you a good idea of what your drain can be attributed to so is a very handy thing to have on your phone. Battery calibration (as the poster above mentioned) is to line up the amounts your phone reports with the true amounts and should only be used if you're getting strange shutdown occurrences etc. Sorry about that
Some people use juice defender too but I don't really like it tbh.
Yeah, those placebo apps are the best
Juice defender, setcpu, task killers, memory menagers etc share the same place in the Hall of sillyness.
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Yeah you're right. I meant battery monitor widget. It was late at night, forgive me
Battery monitor widget gives you a good idea of what your drain can be attributed to so is a very handy thing to have on your phone. Battery calibration (as the poster above mentioned) is to line up the amounts your phone reports with the true amounts and should only be used if you're getting strange shutdown occurrences etc. Sorry about that
Some people use juice defender too but I don't really like it tbh.
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Woah i used the battery calibration app i didnt check the rest of this thread until now, so didn't know, i only saw your mentioned batt calibration and i used it.
Today battery Died at around 9%
What should i do to fix this ? please
Fruitt said:
Woah i used the battery calibration app i didnt check the rest of this thread until now, so didn't know, i only saw your mentioned batt calibration and i used it.
Today battery Died at around 9%
What should i do to fix this ? please
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Read this topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755903
erklat said:
Or completely ruin it. Battery calibration is to be used only if your battery percentage is out of sync with real mV status, so your phone ends up dead at say, 10%. It is not to be used to decrease battery consumption, which is not going to happen. Ever.
To OP, it boils down to your preference. I couldn't care less for ota updates, but if you do, flash ruu, or maybe even rooted stock would work, I'm not sure about that though. As for battery consumption, you had 1 hour screen on, some calls and texts. I'd call that fair.
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To the OP (not erklat)
If you flash a carrier RUU you're all set for ota UPDATES.
If you de-branded the phone yourself, you can still get ota updates, just make sure your goldcard is installed prior to installing the update. If you update without a goldcard you will lose your data connection
If you have a rooted stoc, same as erklat's opinion, I think it should work but I have never tested this myself.
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Read this topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755903
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No i read this method and many users are reporting battery damage. I dont want to do this. My battery on regular use (calls, wifi, games,browsing) lasts 26 hours max and on idle it could last like 40 hours or more maybe.
Its just that the phone is turning off at 9% battery.
I used the Battery calibration app suggested before by cgmorris89 but then erklat said that it would ruin things.
What can i do to make my phone turn off at 2% ?
Oxygen every day!
Try MIUI.us!
Miui is using cyanogenmod kernel and base over which it gives great launcher and best default sms and phone apps.
Firewall and white/black list call blockers are included also.
If you can live with english locale, of course.
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Thank you guys, yes i will try Oxygen and MIUI later on, but now im testing with CM7 and i have this battery percentage problem. If anyone has a solution to this, will be very much appreciated.
And another thing, should i update my Radio ? i have 4.08.00 something, is it safe to do so or might i brick my phone ?

[Q] High battery drain because of Android-System

Hello,
I have a high battery drain because of "Android System". I lose about 3-5% per hour of my battery in idle state. I turn screen off and didn't use it.
I'm using Slim ICS ROM with franco kernel #174.
Badass Battery shows me that following included processes are in Android-System:
Code:
com.android.systemui
system
android:ui
com.tmobile.themechooser
surfaceflinger
com.android.settings
servicemanager
So anybody know what's the problem here?
I'm already disabled Google Photo Sync, NFC and GPS because I didn't need that. Also googling for the problem doesn't help.
Hope you can help, thanks!
You hit the "Yes this is a question" box
Guess where this thread belongs?
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you must install your rom again
this is based on your luck
luckydude said:
you must install your rom again
this is based on your luck
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Again, I've mentioned this twice today: Bullsh**, I don't mean to be disshonouring, or anything, but please, give proper answers,. It's all good, that you want to help, but only with proper and correct answers.
Right, back to topic;
Go into your dev. settings, and uncheck everything that doesn't need to be checked (Stay Awake, Strict mode, etc.) Undervolt the CPU, that should save a ton of battery charge, and underclock to 900-920 MHz, that is definitly enough, on a dual-core
Thanks for your answer =)
I think my phone is already undervolted through Smartreflex in francos app and I also tried underclocking by setting max cpu to 1036 Mhz (instead of 1200 Mhz).
The problem disappeared after 1-2 charges (don't ask me why..).
And now after flashing Slim ICS 3.9, battery time seems to be ok (for me at least).
Per hour in idle state the phone consumes ca. 2-3%.
I ask myself how do others get 1% drain over night. Is that even possible? Tried very much kernels (franco, trinity, glados and leankernel) and didn't even get near that.
Any tips?
OP Im glad you mentioned the issues went away after a few charges. this has been an issue for some who do not believe that a few charge cycles does anything. well im with you as i always see things sort of "settle down" after a few days of flashing a new rom.
I have the same problem on my Nexus S.
The process consuming battery is surfaceflinger. I can see it on battery screen before the name change to Android System.
Pik3no said:
I have the same problem on my Nexus S.
The process consuming battery is surfaceflinger. I can see it on battery screen before the name change to Android System.
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I doubt you will find much help here for the Nexus S.
adrynalyne said:
I doubt you will find much help here for the Nexus S.
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I guess this is an Android problem. Not related to any device.
Android
Yes, i think your prob comes to every Android phone after flashing New rom.
Just wipe Battery stets after flashing. It needs few complete chargings to calibrate the battery.
There are also many apps in the market for this
konsolen said:
Yes, i think your prob comes to every Android phone after flashing New rom.
Just wipe Battery stets after flashing. It needs few complete chargings to calibrate the battery.
There are also many apps in the market for this
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You need to read this. Also you, OP.
General Crespin said:
You need to read this. Also you, OP.
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This. People, just give it 2,3 days for the rom to settle after flash. Same for a kernel.
konsolen said:
Yes, i think your prob comes to every Android phone after flashing New rom.
Just wipe Battery stets after flashing. It needs few complete chargings to calibrate the battery.
There are also many apps in the market for this
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I don't know if was the new kernel I flashed or was the battery stats wipe I did, but seems now my phone have no more RILD/RILJ wakeclocks.
GNexor said:
I ask myself how do others get 1% drain over night. Is that even possible? Tried very much kernels (franco, trinity, glados and leankernel) and didn't even get near that.
Any tips?
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Yes, it is possible. I get 1 or 2% drain overnight with wifi and mobile data disabled, and up to 5 to 6% if mobile data is enabled overnight.
My record with it is 1 day and 20 hours from 100% to 3%.
I had a LG Optimus Black before and didn't last a day. I'm loving this Galaxy Nexus.
Nuno
One Power Guard can help the system into a deep sleep,Reduce battery drain
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Nuno_PT said:
Yes, it is possible. I get 1 or 2% drain overnight with wifi and mobile data disabled, and up to 5 to 6% if mobile data is enabled overnight.
My record with it is 1 day and 20 hours from 100% to 3%.
I had a LG Optimus Black before and didn't last a day. I'm loving this Galaxy Nexus.
Nuno
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I would like to achieve battery drain like that, seems like what it should be.
I am running AOKP Build 2 and I feel like my battery life is ok but not great. I let my phone sit overnight last night with sync off, but LTE on and it drained roughly 4% an hour. I actually turned off LTE in the middle of the night to see if there would be a difference, and no, it drained at the same speed on 3G as well. I live in an area with pretty good reception actually, GSam says I spend the vast majority of my time with a signal strength of 4/5.
GSam reported that roughly 34% of my battery drain overnight was due to Phone Radio. Another 52% was due to app usage. Drilling into that it tells me that over 40% of the battery drain from apps came from "Android System", "Phone" and "Kernel". Under Android System, which was by far the greatest drain of the apps, it only kept the phone awake 1m18s overnight so that doesn't seem excessive. However, I'm confused as to why, with a good signal/connection my battery would drain at nearly 4% an hour whether connected to LTE or CDMA. Unless the radios in this device are poor, I have a hard time believing there isn't a way to fix this without using something like Juice Defender.
I can't recall because it's been so long, but I don't really remember any ICS ROMs draining this fast. I'm on a clean install of AOKP B2 and I've tried a few different kernels with the same results. Any ideas anyone?
So I wanted to let you all know that after trying a few different ROM/Kernel combinations all with similar idle battery drain, I installed the latest (9/21) CM10 nightly and I only lost about 10-12% overnight last night connected to LTE. That is a much better drain than the 30% or so I was seeing previously. Not sure why but my phone just hasn't been handling the latest AOKP builds very well. I am afraid to try a different kernel right now as I'm leaving town tomorrow for most of the week so I'll leave it as is until I get home next weekend, and see if I get this good of battery life with the latest Leankernel.
Surfaceflinger
The same happens to me, this app appear in BetterBattery stats, Surfaceflinger appear as the culprit of my 45%+ battery consumption caused by Android Sys
When I first rooted my phone (xperia S) I noticed an 31%+ energy consumption by Android Sys, I reflashed and re-rooted and stoped for 2 weeks or so, now 2 days ago I woke up to find that 81% of the battery is being drained by Android Sys, then it lowered to 31-43%. I noticed that when I refreshed the stock "Battery" app ,"Surfaceflinger appear for a moment, I seem that I confirmed with the BetterBatteryStats, Surfacaflinger appears at the top.
Why is this happening? Can something be done about it?
PS: I cannot change kernel, bootloader is locked...
Surfaceflinger and android.process.acore are top battery drainer. I mean how to make them not sucking on battery?

[Q] Battery life poor since JB

Hi everyone,
My One X used to have brilliant battery life. I didn't turn on the screen that often throughout the day, but I was able to regularly check the news, send and receive texts, make a few calls and - crucially - keep my Wifi on for the entire day. With this setup, I was regularly getting 4 or 5 days of usage without having to charge my phone. However, as soon as JellyBean came along as an official update, I grabbed it... since then, I'm lucky if I get a day and a half out of it before I need to plug it into the wall.
I'm not running any custom ROMs: just whatever I get through official O2 OTA updates. Battery usage says that 36% of my drain is due to Android OS, with another 20% due to Maps. The rest are tiny, only 2 to 5%. Now I understand that a new version of Android might make some new demands on the hardware, but from what I heard, the update was supposed to improve battery life if anything. Even with the new Power Saver feature on, the difference is minimal, with only a few hours standby time gained overall.
Can anyone suggest anything to remedy this, or is this fairly normal? It's not world-ending and perhaps I was just really lucky to get 5 days of use in the first place, but thought I'd ask the experts before I grin and bear it. Thanks in advance for any help or advice.
19 hours and 40 minutes into this usage cycle, I've got 57% remaining. So it's shaping up to be about 40 hours of usage, down from 120 at its peak. Right now, it's also saying that Android OS has used 99% of my battery... and nothing else is on the list.
Does no-one have any idea what's going on?
Did you make an hard reset when you updated your phone?
This is why when you upgrade your phone to a newer Android version it is better if you perform a hard reset
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I suffer(ed) also under heavy drain due to maps since update to JB. But I'm convinced it's cause of Google Now. Disabled it yesterday and will check whether it gets better or not. Try disabling gnow and see if it gets better. I also had issues with gsam battery monitor in case you use this.
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This is my last charge 3 half screen time isn't bad.
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Would you consider rooting because custom roms like blade have great battery life
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k-c-0 said:
I suffer(ed) also under heavy drain due to maps since update to JB. But I'm convinced it's cause of Google Now. Disabled it yesterday and will check whether it gets better or not. Try disabling gnow and see if it gets better. I also had issues with gsam battery monitor in case you use this.
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Thanks for this. Your suggestion got me checking for other people having issues with Google Now and battery life. I disabled it as you suggested and I'm definitely seeing an improvement. It's still not as good as it was, but I think I might be able to squeeze more than two days out of it now.
Do you have stock rom? Because I've just upgraded to JB yesterday and flashed a custom rom, and since then my battery is like 3 times more powerful.
You should definitely switch to a custom rom... Ever since I upgraded to JB I've seen a massive improvement in my battery life.. From barely making it through the day to almost 2days of my typical of usage.
Google Now does seem to kill battery as it polls the Google maps app a lot.. So I usually open task manager to make sure it isn't running in the morning background.
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ridiculous don't you think?

the kernel is bugged and also since its on 5.0 lollipop
What strikes me odd is that something else didn't drag it down. Then I see the stats are about apps only, which don't take into account cell standby or screen on time.
The key thing to look at is that your phone has been running for 5.5 hours there from full charge, and it only went down 7%. That means if you keep it up, you could run it for over 3 days without needing to recharge. Nothing wrong with that (in the new world order). That's what my old phone could do (sometimes 4 days), and it had a better mAh to screen size ratio than his device (2460mAh : 4" vs 3000mAh : 5.5"). I have yet to get those kinds of battery stats with this one (down to 70% by the day is done vs 80% with the other one).
Yeah. It's unthinkable that a company like Asus can't solve this problem fast enough. Maybe they didn't get the permission to put 5.1 on their phones yet
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Yeah. It's unthinkable that a company like Asus can't solve this problem fast enough. Maybe they didn't get the permission to put 5.1 on their phones yet
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They definitely have "permission", Asus has been historically reliable with updates, but we'll see I guess.
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They definitely have "permission", Asus has been historically reliable with updates, but we'll see I guess.
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Yeah, let's see. Meanwhile we spend our battery cycles like ****
I blame Google. They should never have released the buggy mess that is 5.0. Sometimes companies have no choice what to out on the phones....I'm sure Asus had this phone in the development pipeline with 5.0 as the target well before all the bugs of 5.0 were revealed. And the way Android relies on nearly full reimage for major updates is idiotic, and also Google's fault. 5.1.1 is essentially a different OS than 5.0
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What strikes me odd is that something else didn't drag it down. Then I see the stats are about apps only, which don't take into account cell standby or screen on time.
The key thing to look at is that your phone has been running for 5.5 hours there from full charge, and it only went down 7%. That means if you keep it up, you could run it for over 3 days without needing to recharge. Nothing wrong with that (in the new world order). That's what my old phone could do (sometimes 4 days), and it had a better mAh to screen size ratio than his device (2460mAh : 4" vs 3000mAh : 5.5"). I have yet to get those kinds of battery stats with this one (down to 70% by the day is done vs 80% with the other one).
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the funny thing is my standby time is completely fine its when im using the phone that it drains fast I have amplify,greenify,powernap running and it still drains also did all thats possible to save as much battery as possible.
I also installed the Debloated Rom by Harfainx I know for sure that its lollipop 5.0 thats cause this problem cause every time I check the battery stats in settings Android OS is at 40-60%...... thats just ridiculous
The sooner we get 5.1.1 the better! Are you listening Asus?
They are shameless at the moment

Battery problems?

I know, our device has really great battery life and I don't have anything to complain about that, but a friend of mine just got himself a new phone and his values make me a bit jealous and most of all: surprised and stunned.
He got himself a Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 (SD 625 variant, MKT variant really sucks), it has the same processor, same display and not even 700 mAh more (4100 mAh) and he got with some "dev rom" (made by Xiaomi, seems to just be the beta of that ugly MIUI 9, based on Andorid 7.0) 6h of SOT, doze seems to haven't really kicked in in that time. in their forum in the SOT thread I see people getting normally about 8-10 with up to over 12 h of SOT, most of them on stock ROM without any additions. And I'm quite irritated about that huge of a difference with not that much more battery. And he seems quite convinced that it's not on the cost of performance, you should notice that quickly on such a heavily skinned ROM.
Now my question is: how in hell is that even possible? I mean our devices seem quite comparablewith just a slight bump in battery but near-stock AOSP Android against pretty much an iOS clone. Does anyone have any idea what could cause that big of a difference? And if it's software based could that be done on our device? Because my experience and from different posts our device lasts about 5-6 h normally.
I mean I'm already lucky about my 2 days of usage with up to about 2.5 days on some weekends where I have a lot of stuff to do. But I wouldn't mind a bit of extra. But my biggest problem with that is as simple as: how? I could really use some explaination right now...
I don't have issues with device.. stock 7.1.1 with dec.patch, unlocked bootloader, with latest magisk. Also installed greenify.
Then you are one of very rare cases. My experience is about half of that.
And I also meant on stock ROM, without any modifications. So I don't know which apps you greenified, but that was not the point. I use Greenify too but more for apps that aren't supposed to run constantly in background when I only use it very seldomly.
The norm for this phone is 8+ hours SOT. Sometimes I get 10 and a few have had up to 12. Unless you're gaming 8 should be easy. 5 hours means something is wrong with your phone hardware, you have a rogue battery eating app or you're gaming. I rarely charge my phone over the weekend even when I use it a lot.
Well, neither of that is the case and I rarely see people claiming more than 6h of SOT
So the answer to your question is, it's the wrong question. The question should be, why does my battery not last very long and what apps or usage causes me to have such poor battery life? Compared to the Redmi Note 4 the Z Play is exactly where it should be.
Here's a link to the SOT thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/review/screen-time-t3643959
gsmarena battery life test 100h endurance rating: https://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3?idPhone=8310#show
Here's an app to help diagnose battery condition (Accubattery): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.digibites.accubattery&hl=en
also betterbatterystats is really helpful.
I sincerely hope you get it sorted out!
Well, gsam isn't detecting any app that's off even with root so I don't think there is any. I installed that AccuBattery app, let's see what it has to say
Removed because of ****ty q&a system...
Oh, and another thing I noticed: I get very randomly reboots, and every time the battery percentage drops massively. Just had a 30% drop. And after the reboot the battery percentage seems like frozen. Now I rebooted and plugged in the cable and got 44% again... No fast charging. Do that detection seems very off
Motorola forum isn't helpful at all. Clearing cache and dalvik didn't change anything and running around for a week in secure mode (that's how random they mostly are) or even doing a factory reset without restoring apps is out of question for obvious reasons.
That's pretty weird. Did you try a factory reset and after restore your apps? There's not a lot you can do if you're not rooted, but you shouldn't need to do much anyway on stock rom.
Only other option is full RSD lite OS restore as a last resort.
I am rooted for long, that's why I use Greenify. I know it also works without but then it's a joke. As RSD lite is, it just refuses for everyone to detect anything on Windows 10.
Factory reset is out of question for the moment, it takes way too long to do it properly (with titanium and NANDroid backup first) and I won't have that much time probably for the whole of this month. Otherwise I would most likely already have went off to the next best custom ROM since Motorola just can't get their **** together and still work on 8.0 in test for 2.5 month with searching testers for another one.
I think the next thing I'll do is to try the good old battery calibration, just have to find the file storing the statistics. I know many say that won't work but that's rubbish, it worked for me already a few times
Update: no, no change. Don't know if that funky battery percentage bug on random reboots still happen since I haven't had any again yet, but they come too random and unpredictable.
And that AccuBattery just proves to be worthless. It tries to estimate the rest capacity, but then it even fails to detect original capacity by 500 mAh. The battery sucker stats are also unrealistic. It puts chrome first with 10%, while GSam with root puts it 5th at 4.6% after kernel, Spotify, Android system and fight services. Android itself even puts it 9th with screen, phone idle, cell standby, Android OS and Bluetooth in-between.
So let's see what happens first. Motorola releasing 8.0, which I will flash through the .xml.zip, this time using flashfile.xml which should force a factory reset... Or me finding the time to switch to a custom ROM
Edit: so I got another one, bit this time no crazy battery drop. But the other times I killed of the soft reboot sequence because Magisk can have some problems with that. This time I didn't
Yesterday I was finally able to do the factory reset since those darn random reboots became too annoying and Moto's support is had just the most ridiculous ideas... In the worst way.
Either way, now OTA looks better, let's see how it will turn out in the next days

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