Thankfully I finally was able to RUU back to stock... I know the At&t update is supposed to come at some point, but I am wondering if there is a lollipop rom that works with S-On or can I flash the GPE while still S-On?
Thanks in advance
You can flash any ROM, they just won't work properly without the Lollipop FW.
Why not S-OFF and convert the phone to the Developer Edition?
harrishabitat said:
Thankfully I finally was able to RUU back to stock... I know the At&t update is supposed to come at some point, but I am wondering if there is a lollipop rom that works with S-On or can I flash the GPE while still S-On?
Thanks in advance
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I been using GPE Lollipop on kitkat firmware for a while before HTC released Lollipop firmware. It worked all fine, just some problems with the wifi dropping out, if you come across that problem just turn your bluetooth on.
EddyOS said:
You can flash any ROM, they just won't work properly without the Lollipop FW.
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Actually most GPE and AOSP ROMs will work with 4.4.4 firmware, far as I am aware. OP should check the specific ROM thread (for the desired ROM or ROMs) to make sure, as its usually defined pretty clearly in the top few posts of each ROM thread.
But you are right, if the OP wants a Sense LP ROM, they will need to update to the corresponding firmware.
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i stumble upon a thread that S-off is really needed to have proper and compatible FW and ROM. Question is, isnt it the FW is packed with the ROM? My M8 is rooted, bootloader open but still S-Off (IC ROM and Elemental KERNEL). Please enlighten me.
PS: i read about this whole thing coz the boot time of my phone is just too long, i asked in one of the thread here; someone said that its because of this FW and ROM thingy that might be incompatible...
Sorry if i asked too much. Thanks anyway...
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Question is, isnt it the FW is packed with the ROM?
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No. Firmware is not packed with custom ROMs. When talking about updating the firmware, we are referring to the hboot, radio, and other modules (WiFi, Bluetooth, etc.). Flashing a ROM doesn't touch those firmware partitions. And in fact the radio and hboot partitions can not be modified with S-on. Which is why s-off is required to update the firmware manually.
Yes, long boot time is a known symptom of flashing a 2.x based custom ROM, while having outdated 1.x based firmware on the phone. So you need to s-off and update the firmware manually.
Alternately, you can return to stock ROM and recovery, and install your latest official OTA, which will update the firmware.
knights.JayTana said:
i stumble upon a thread that S-off is really needed to have proper and compatible FW and ROM. Question is, isnt it the FW is packed with the ROM? My M8 is rooted, bootloader open but still S-Off (IC ROM and Elemental KERNEL). Please enlighten me.
PS: i read about this whole thing coz the boot time of my phone is just too long, i asked in one of the thread here; someone said that its because of this FW and ROM thingy that might be incompatible...
Sorry if i asked too much. Thanks anyway...
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Your firmware is separate from the ROM you run, it runs between the ROM and the hardware if you like. Its the base software that is updated by RUU or an OTA, but a ROM won't update it. Hence why devs recommend to update firmware to the latest as their ROM is based on the latest sources, but it doesnt update it.
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No. Firmware is not packed with custom ROMs. When talking about updating the firmware, we are referring to the hboot, radio, and other modules (WiFi, Bluetooth, etc.). Flashing a ROM doesn't touch those firmware partitions. And in fact the radio and hboot partitions can not be modified with S-on. Which is why s-off is required to update the firmware manually.
Yes, long boot time is a known symptom of flashing a 2.x based custom ROM, while having outdated 1.x based firmware on the phone. So you need to s-off and update the firmware manually.
Alternately, you can return to stock ROM and recovery, and install your latest official OTA, which will update the firmware.
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gsmyth said:
Your firmware is separate from the ROM you run, it runs between the ROM and the hardware if you like. Its the base software that is updated by RUU or an OTA, but a ROM won't update it. Hence why devs recommend to update firmware to the latest as their ROM is based on the latest sources, but it doesnt update it.
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Thanks a lot to both of you guys. Do i need stock RUU on my phone other than stock recovery? How about the bootloader? Another thing is, cant seem to open/enter Firewater website? been trying for 3 days now, no luck...
knights.JayTana said:
Thanks a lot to both of you guys. Do i need stock RUU on my phone other than stock recovery? How about the bootloader? Another thing is, cant seem to open/enter Firewater website? been trying for 3 days now, no luck...
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Just tried the firewater site and its working ok for me, was able to download the firewater tool also.
Working now, Thanks a lot... Damn this browser... hehehehe
knights.JayTana said:
Do i need stock RUU on my phone other than stock recovery? How about the bootloader? Another thing is, cant seem to open/enter Firewater website? been trying for 3 days now, no luck...
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You probably won't find an RUU for your version, as I believe only the US versions have RUU. Unfortunate, as RUU would be another way update you to the 2.x firmware, and would be a really easy way to do so.
You just need stock ROM and recovery, for purpose of accepting OTAs. You should be able to get both of those here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
You shouldn't have to do anything with bootloader. Since you are still S-on, there is no way you would have been able to modify bootloader, and therefore it is still stock.
Firewater website works fine for me. In fact, it loads almost instantly. Do you have any local firewalls or anything else that might be blocking the website? Although also be aware that firewater won't work on most recent M8's (and you may need to use sunshine if you want s-off). Although it doesn't hurt to try firewater.
???? does this mean i cant no longer use firewater on my m8?
knights.JayTana said:
???? does this mean i cant no longer use firewater on my m8?
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Most likely if yu get that message, than NO firewater won't work.
Although some custom ROMs (not sure about InserCoin) and kernels might interfere with firewater.
What hboot and radio baseband?
ohhh no, im with elementalX Kernel. Will try my luck with Stock kernel. Ill be back here later, rebooting my phone takes ages
Still no luck. hahahahahahaha!!! Damn... Tried the Sunshine but will also not work without stock ROM and Kernel. hahahahaahha...
knights.JayTana said:
Tried the Sunshine but will also not work without stock ROM and Kernel. hahahahaahha...
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I've read that Maximum ROM works with Sunshine.
EDIT: Meant "Maximus". Keep typing that name wrong. My brain keeps wanting to autocorrect!
Although you might need to find an older build of Maximus. I see that as of last night, it was just updated to Android 4.4.4! So bets are off about Sunshine working with Maximus, until its reported to work with the new build.
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I've read that Maximum ROM works with Sunshine.
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Here's the HBOOT info. Please help me guys
knights.JayTana said:
Here's the HBOOT info. Please help me guys
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3.16 may or may not work with firewater. If you have tried with stock ROM and kernel, and get the "whelp" message, than you are out of luck.
Sunshine should work, again I'd try with stock ROM and kernel.
I made it with Sunshine... heheheehhe... Thanks a lot guys...
It was done before by Mike (ARHD); upgrading FW without S-Off by flashing "signed" FW. Will it be possible for GPE FW?
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It was done before by Mike (ARHD); upgrading FW without S-Off by flashing "signed" FW. Will it be possible for GPE FW?
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i didnt even know its possible to upgrade FW for S-ON, can you tell me how???
Head over ARHD thread in Dev section. Its there. My first M8 was S-off so i ddnt bother doing it but its there and its possible. I sold my first then got new one, problem is Sunshine will not work, dev said to wait for v3.0 which will be on January hopefully. So, im searching for some options to have GPE fw so that i can flash GPErom with no issues. I made it to work GPErom with SenseFW but after a day, i started to have wifi droping issues.
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It was done before by Mike (ARHD); upgrading FW without S-Off by flashing "signed" FW. Will it be possible for GPE FW?
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A signed GPE FW works only on a GPE device.
Same like a signed FW for Sense device works only on that particular device matching its CID/MID regardless S-On or S-Off.
Thank's for clearing this up.
Long story short, I bought a GPE M8 with a custom rom, I want to return it back to full stock, it has the bootloader unlocked, every attempt I have made says it has said the installation is aborted, or something about this HTC is europe based etc and the rom is US based etc, I am open to any reasonable suggestions, I just want my phone to be stock, thanks.
OK, so is it from GPE or a GPE Rom ?
Maybe it's a originally Sense based variant ?
How about a pic of the hboot screen ?
Do you have custom recovery?
@badboy47 why don't you try graffixnyc's gpe ruu ?
jball said:
OK, so is it from GPE or a GPE Rom ?
Maybe it's a originally Sense based variant ?
How about a pic of the hboot screen ?
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It's a legit GPE, not a fake, I did get it to work.
badboy47 said:
Do you have custom recovery?
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Yes, I had philz custom recovery
pagoweb said:
@badboy47 why don't you try graffixnyc's gpe ruu ?
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I tried it, it kept bugging out, not knocking anyones rom, I just ended up with the Task650 rom, its running fine now.
Hello,
I am looking for the stock ROM for my HTC ONE M8 because I had a few issues before and I put the first ROM that worked. Because my phone is S-On still it was difficult to find a ROM.
I am currently on a 4.4.4 ROM which has no check for updates feature so when Android L is pushed onto my device I won't be able to get it.
My HTC One M8 is a European version and is currently unlocked to all networks. I've tried to install the official HTC ROM from the website but it hangs and nothing updates, on my task manager I can see the CPU is busy but it does nothing.
Android Version : 4.4.4
HTC Sense version : 6.0
Software number : Android Revolution HD 22.1 by mike1986
Baseband bersion 1.22.2133147A1
Build number : 3.28.401.9
have you read this page: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376 ?
nathankk said:
I am looking for the stock ROM for my HTC ONE M8 because I had a few issues before and I put the first ROM that worked. Because my phone is S-On still it was difficult to find a ROM.
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Why? You can flash any M8 ROMs with s-on. And since it appears your firmware is up to date, you can flash any of the latest ROMs with any firmware mismatch issues.
nathankk said:
I am currently on a 4.4.4 ROM which has no check for updates feature so when Android L is pushed onto my device I won't be able to get it.
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Custom ROMs won't get official OTAs.
Also, in addition to returning to stock ROM, you need to revert to stock recovery to install any OTAs. Its all described in the thread linked in the previous response.
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Why? You can flash any M8 ROMs with s-on. And since it appears your firmware is up to date, you can flash any of the latest ROMs with any firmware mismatch issues.
Custom ROMs won't get official OTAs.
Also, in addition to returning to stock ROM, you need to revert to stock recovery to install any OTAs. Its all described in the thread linked in the previous response.
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I was under the impression with,S-On you can't flash any ROM onto it. Can I literally choose any of those CIDs and it will be compatible with my phone? Instead of messing around can I just wait for the release of lollipop and then flash the ROM that gets posted on here. I just got a little confused because on that post it has carrier names and my phone is unlocked to all networks.
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I was under the impression with,S-On you can't flash any ROM onto it. Can I literally choose any of those CIDs and it will be compatible with my phone? Instead of messing around can I just wait for the release of lollipop and then flash the ROM that gets posted on here. I just got a little confused because on that post it has carrier names and my phone is unlocked to all networks.
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I think you are talking about flashing firmware or a RUU ? No... If you're s-on, you can only flash your CID. But that has nothing to do with custom roms... Which is what the others have been talking about. ?
Darth said:
I think you are talking about flashing firmware or a RUU ? No... If you're s-on, you can only flash your CID. But that has nothing to do with custom roms... Which is what the others have been talking about.
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I'm on a custom ROM now I believe and I'm wanting to return to stock, I want to be sure before I do anything so I don't brick the phone. How do I find which CID I need to download?
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I was under the impression with,S-On you can't flash any ROM onto it. Can I literally choose any of those CIDs and it will be compatible with my phone?
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Any of the stock nandroids should work (meaning they will function). But if you want the stock ROM for your CID, than obviously you need to determine the CID and restore the corresponding stock nandroid.
One reason to restore to your stock nandroid, is that if you also restore the corresponding stock recovery you will be able to receive official OTAs.
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Instead of messing around can I just wait for the release of lollipop and then flash the ROM that gets posted on here.
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Yes and no. You can flash any custom ROM, including upcoming LP Sense ROMs. But what complicates the issue is that HTC has updated the firmware (hboot, radio, WiFI, etc.) for every major OS software update. If you don't update the firmware accordingly, flashing a ROM that depends on that firmware will result in some major issues (such as long boot times and broken WiFi).
Updating firmware manually requires s-off (which may be the reason why you are under the impression that ROMs can't be flashed with s-on). Or alternately, you can return to stock ROM and recovery and OTA when the LolliSense update rolls out; and this will also update the firmware.
Keep in mind, as previously mentioned your current firmware will work with any current custom ROMs that depend on 3.x firmware.
nathankk said:
I just got a little confused because on that post it has carrier names and my phone is unlocked to all networks.
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Regardless of the fact your phone is not carrier branded, it still has a CID, probably HTC__ something or other.
fastboot getvar all will yield your CID. No need to post your getvar data, just look for where it says CID. If you post getvar data, be sure to delete IMEI and serial number, as these are personal data that should not be posted on the internet.
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Any of the stock nandroids should work (meaning they will function). But if you want the stock ROM for your CID, than obviously you need to determine the CID and restore the corresponding stock nandroid.
One reason to restore to your stock nandroid, is that if you also restore the corresponding stock recovery you will be able to receive official OTAs.
Yes and no. You can flash any custom ROM, including upcoming LP Sense ROMs. But what complicates the issue is that HTC has updated the firmware (hboot, radio, WiFI, etc.) for every major OS software update. If you don't update the firmware accordingly, flashing a ROM that depends on that firmware will result in some major issues (such as long boot times and broken WiFi).
Updating firmware manually requires s-off (which may be the reason why you are under the impression that ROMs can't be flashed with s-on). Or alternately, you can return to stock ROM and recovery and OTA when the LolliSense update rolls out; and this will also update the firmware.
Keep in mind, as previously mentioned your current firmware will work with any current custom ROMs that depend on 3.x firmware.
Regardless of the fact your phone is not carrier branded, it still has a CID, probably HTC__ something or other.
fastboot getvar all will yield your CID. No need to post your getvar data, just look for where it says CID. If you post getvar data, be sure to delete IMEI and serial number, as these are personal data that should not be posted on the internet.
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Fantastic reply! let me buy you a beer.
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Fantastic reply! let me buy you a beer.
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Heh, while I love beer, gratitude by clicking the "Thanks" button is enough!
OP, check the link in my signature. Full guide to go back to stock with the EU M8 (most of it will work with S-ON as well)
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Yes and no. You can flash any custom ROM, including upcoming LP Sense ROMs. But what complicates the issue is that HTC has updated the firmware (hboot, radio, WiFI, etc.) for every major OS software update. If you don't update the firmware accordingly, flashing a ROM that depends on that firmware will result in some major issues (such as long boot times and broken WiFi).
Updating firmware manually requires s-off (which may be the reason why you are under the impression that ROMs can't be flashed with s-on). Or alternately, you can return to stock ROM and recovery and OTA when the LolliSense update rolls out; and this will also update the firmware.
Keep in mind, as previously mentioned your current firmware will work with any current custom ROMs that depend on 3.x firmware.
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Heads up, as of early this week (Monday?) the Dev Edition M8 is rolling out Lollipop Sense via OTA. Some custom ROMs have now updated to this base, which is 4.16 software, and requires 4.16 firmware.
But as mentioned, any 3.x software based ROM will work on your current firmware.
looking to move over to either asop or gpe from sense im s-on with latest firmware can i just flash as normal either of these rom types or will i need to adjust to a different firmware ?
You can flash the roms, but to actually covert to GPE, you'll need to be s-off.
You also need the latest firmware for most up to date roms. ?
The M8 will need to be updated to the new 5.0.1 firmware to use latest Sense ROMS,
for AOSP you can use any firmware 3.x and up.
On the GPE Firmware you will need S-OFF as the change in partitions are locked in
S-ON.
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The M8 will need to be updated to the new 5.0.1 firmware to use latest Sense ROMS,
for AOSP you can use any firmware 3.x and up.
On the GPE Firmware you will need S-OFF as the change in partitions are locked in
S-ON.
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Huh... There is a GPE rom on the sprint forum. When I was s-on I flash the rom then flash the kernel in fastboot. I was on latest firmware but not sure if that had something to do
Yeah, there might be a ROM but the full conversion to GPe requires S-OFF
You can use the GPE Rom Easily, without S-OFF it's like any other AOSP ROM.
But if you want to fully convert it to a GPE Edition, you'll need S-OFF.
The problem with the GPE ROMs/Conversion is that
the HTC File Manager cannot load SD Card Tab (You can't modify anything in the SDCard without rooting it after wards).
And the HTC Camera no longer works on GPE , it used to work before without root.
I guess HTC Ruined the Non-Sense variants again.