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alrights guys I didn't see this anywhere in ur forum so here it is, after exchanging my s4 for a replacement, I got it with 4.3 and all this Knox nonsense already installed, Now I don't really care that much for samsung's warranty but I went out and look for a way to root our latest without triggering Knox counter just head on to the thread below and check it out... it has a catch but I would say it's worth the trade off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
lol Dude, we just discussed this in another forum and this has been discussed in many forums. :silly:
Anyways... I've used this Verizon method on my buddies ATT Galaxy S4 with a locked bootloader on a 4.3 MK2 baseband. It does not trip the KNOX flag. There are no "trade-offs." It functions well. Chainfires AutoRoot works as well.
So with this method you cannot make a nandroid backup OR even restore one?
HTCMDA said:
So with this method you cannot make a nandroid backup OR even restore one?
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I have not tried to make a nandroid with a locked BL and will try tomorrow (damn sure it won't work). Best bet is to try Online Nandroid Manager. Nandroid backups require a custom recovery, it has nothing to do with having root.
Ive been out of the rooting world for a while, but with research, Ive caught up a little. However I do have a couple of questions;
With this method, can I still install a custom vanilla rom with 4.3/4.4?
If not, what are the benefits?
knipp21 said:
Ive been out of the rooting world for a while, but with research, Ive caught up a little. However I do have a couple of questions;
With this method, can I still install a custom vanilla rom with 4.3/4.4?
If not, what are the benefits?
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No, this will only root your phone (give your apps su/superuser access). You will still need to flash a custom recovery (i.e., PhilZ, TWRP, CWM) to flash roms like a custom Vanilla ROM. If you are on 4.2.2 bootloader, you can simply flash a custom recovery and flash the ROM. If you are on 4.3, you will be on the KNOX bootloader and if you flash a custom recovery to flash the ROM, you will void your KNOX warranty. If you don't care about the warranty or has expired, there is no difference.
1) Download Vanilla Rom,
2) Flash custom recovery tar (i.e., PhilZ, TWRP, CWM).
3) Go into recovery and flash rom.
4) ????
5) ??
6) Profit.
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No, this will only root your phone (give your apps su/superuser access). You will still need to flash a custom recovery (i.e., PhilZ, TWRP, CWM) to flash roms like a custom Vanilla ROM. If you are on 4.2.2 bootloader, you can simply flash a custom recovery and flash the ROM. If you are on 4.3, you will be on the KNOX bootloader and if you flash a custom recovery to flash the ROM, you will void your KNOX warranty. If you don't care about the warranty or has expired, there is no difference.
1) Download Vanilla Rom,
2) Flash custom recovery tar (i.e., PhilZ, TWRP, CWM).
3) Go into recovery and flash rom.
4) ????
5) ??
6) Profit.
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I dont really care about the warranty, if its samsung and not t mobile.. But that isnt a def answer yet.
And ok, I guess Ill hunt the threads to see how to install the recovery. Thanks man
knipp21 said:
I dont really care about the warranty, if its samsung and not t mobile.. But that isnt a def answer yet.
And ok, I guess Ill hunt the threads to see how to install the recovery. Thanks man
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Well, even some of the T-Mobile apps now recognize if you have root and could possibly use that as proof that you voided your warranty. Tmobile/Samsung, vice versa, won't be much difference. You'd just have to find a store person that isn't knowledgeable on the subject and get a replacement. Good luck.
yea about that!
Yea I notice after I posted LOL.. a and here I was thinking I found the "holy grail" of rooting LOL!! but anyway those that Need to know just like it has been said.. this will get u rooted with out triggering Knox. this only applies to those that upgraded OTA or got their S4 already with JB 4.3 in it.. like I did after a warranty exchange... HOWEVER if u install any Custom Recovery u will trigger the counter VOIDING ur warranty FOREVER!!! LOL well maybe not but at least til someone (and who knows if someone ever will) figures Knox out. So think twice before you do anything, cause no here will take responsability for your actions...
HAPPY FLASHIN!!
Just did this to my T-Mobile SGS4. It worked just as described. The Knox counter wasn't tripped, but Custom is indicated on the Download screen (Vol Down+Home+Power).
Here's what my Download screen now says:
ODIN MODE
PRODUCT NAME: SGH-M919
CURRENT BINARY: Samsung Official
SYSTEM STATUS: Custom
KNOX KERNEL LOCK: 0x0
KNOX WARRANTY VOID: 0x0
CSB-CONFIG-LSB: 0x30
WRITE PROTECTION: Enable
eMMC BURST MODE: enabled
Thanks for the link to the other thread. :good:
Now I can use Titanium Backup, Greenify, ADB - rooted, esFile Explorer - rooted. Not needing a Custom Rom or Custom Recovery yet. And, to get it back to un-rooted, there are instructions in the other thread about that.
Rob
rlichtefeld said:
Just did this to my T-Mobile SGS4. It worked just as described. The Knox counter wasn't tripped, but Custom is indicated on the Download screen (Vol Down+Home+Power).
Here's what my Download screen now says:
ODIN MODE
PRODUCT NAME: SGH-M919
CURRENT BINARY: Samsung Official
SYSTEM STATUS: Custom
KNOX KERNEL LOCK: 0x0
KNOX WARRANTY VOID: 0x0
CSB-CONFIG-LSB: 0x30
WRITE PROTECTION: Enable
eMMC BURST MODE: enabled
Thanks for the link to the other thread. :good:
Now I can use Titanium Backup, Greenify, ADB - rooted, esFile Explorer - rooted. Not needing a Custom Rom or Custom Recovery yet. And, to get it back to un-rooted, there are instructions in the other thread about that.
Rob
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Just remember, you won't be able to make full nandroid backups (give Online Nandroid Manager a shot if you want to try).
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Just remember, you won't be able to make full nandroid backups (give Online Nandroid Manager a shot if you want to try).
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IFAIK, until I plan to flash a custom ROM I shouldn't need a full Nandroid. I can always flash a stock ROM, and between the Google Backup/Restore and TiB, I should get almost everything back. Music/Video, etc are all on the MicroSD.
Unless I'm sadly mistaken. This is my first foray into messing with the SGS4. I was very active flashing on my HTC HD2, starting with various builds for WM6.5, and then moving on to SD builds of Android and then NativeSD with cLK, etc. I was running Tytung's KitKat until I got this phone in December. I work for a small company and the SGS4 was my Christmas Bonus. The HD2 was just too long in tooth to keep up with all the advances in Android. But, since you could flash everything - radios, bootloaders, recoveries, builds, etc., I could change out/update my version of Android almost daily.
Rob
rlichtefeld said:
IFAIK, until I plan to flash a custom ROM I shouldn't need a full Nandroid. I can always flash a stock ROM, and between the Google Backup/Restore and TiB, I should get almost everything back. Music/Video, etc are all on the MicroSD.
Unless I'm sadly mistaken. This is my first foray into messing with the SGS4. I was very active flashing on my HTC HD2, starting with various builds for WM6.5, and then moving on to SD builds of Android and then NativeSD with cLK, etc. I was running Tytung's KitKat until I got this phone in December. I work for a small company and the SGS4 was my Christmas Bonus. The HD2 was just too long in tooth to keep up with all the advances in Android. But, since you could flash everything - radios, bootloaders, recoveries, builds, etc., I could change out/update my version of Android almost daily.
Rob
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The beauty of a nandroid backup is that it takes a snapshot of your phone as it stands. Within five to eight minutes, you can restore your phone as it stood before it messed up. No re-downloading apps, changing settings, replacing system apps (i.e., installing Note 3 My Files and Gallery), etc. It saves the hassles of slow TiB/Helium restoration, especially if you have hundreds of apps. Sure, you can start fresh and manually restore things, but having it done within eight minutes without lifting a finger is extremely nice to have in your arsenal. Has come in handy several times for me since I test ROMs very frequently.
Congrats on your bonus, a very nice bonus indeed. It is a great phone. I was thinking about switching to a Note 3 or waiting for the S5 but this phone is perfect for my hands. Note 3 with an Otterbox Defender case is too big for my taste and the S5 is still a ways off. Plus, the development for this phone has far exceeded my expectations so I'm a happy camper for now.
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No, this will only root your phone (give your apps su/superuser access). You will still need to flash a custom recovery (i.e., PhilZ, TWRP, CWM) to flash roms like a custom Vanilla ROM. If you are on 4.2.2 bootloader, you can simply flash a custom recovery and flash the ROM. If you are on 4.3, you will be on the KNOX bootloader and if you flash a custom recovery to flash the ROM, you will void your KNOX warranty. If you don't care about the warranty or has expired, there is no difference.
1) Download Vanilla Rom,
2) Flash custom recovery tar (i.e., PhilZ, TWRP, CWM).
3) Go into recovery and flash rom.
4) ????
5) ??
6) Profit.
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What method did you use to install a custom recovery? I saw this in the thread:
Important - please read
If you fail to read this, you will be taunted.
1. You can't install custom recovery and custom ROMs using this technique. See Safestrap for a way to install some custom ROMs.
2. Resetting the "Custom" and open padlock indication during boot can be worked around using the Xposed Framwork and Wanam Xposed. Get those two from the Play Store.
In Wanam, tick "Security Hacks", "Fake System Status".
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Did you use the safestrap like he suggested? I just got a replacement from t-mobile, i can't be stuck on tw lol.
root is still better then no root lol thank you for the info.
This is all great info, on rooting 4.3....
but how do you UNROOT ?
Xx_Joe_Wireless_xX said:
This is all great info, on rooting 4.3....
but how do you UNROOT ?
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Go into SuperSU, then click permanent cleanup.
You have to make sure busy box is removed as well, or system will show custom
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Is there a way to get back to the stock rom???
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KRAZYADROIDMASTER said:
Is there a way to get back to the stock rom???
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If the only mod you did was to follow the instructions in this thread, then you aren't changing the ROM, you are only giving yourself Root privileges.
To Unroot, go to the thread in the original post, and look at the second message in that thread.
Here's the link to that exact message:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48392024&postcount=2
You will be
1) removing BusyBox
2) Using SuperSU to "Full Unroot"
If you've done more than was laid out in the original message in that thread, then you will probably need to
3) Remove any Custom Recovery
4) Flash an original ROM
There are several threads discussing getting back to a Stock ROM.
Rob
I have T-Mobile SM-N900T with N900TUVUCNB4 Latest firmware 4.4.2 it came with the phone.
I have tried to install and root this phone many times. And every time it goes into recovery it boot loops. No matter what I have tried. I have tried CF-Root for the Kitkat, I have installed Recovery from TWRP 2.7, via Odin. Every time I says it updates but just goes to recovery and loops. I know that it has already tripped the Knox Warranty it now says 0x1.
Maybe if there is a Rooted 4.4.2 rom that can be put on via odin that might work. I have not found one. Or if anyone can give me directions on how to install any of the roms for this phone via odin it would be helpful as well.
I would like to root due to I need to remove allot of the bloatware on the phone its really full of apps that I will never use.
arielb27 said:
I have T-Mobile SM-N900T with N900TUVUCNB4 Latest firmware 4.4.2 it came with the phone.
I have tried to install and root this phone many times. And every time it goes into recovery it boot loops. No matter what I have tried. I have tried CF-Root for the Kitkat, I have installed Recovery from TWRP 2.7, via Odin. Every time I says it updates but just goes to recovery and loops. I know that it has already tripped the Knox Warranty it now says 0x1.
Maybe if there is a Rooted 4.4.2 rom that can be put on via odin that might work. I have not found one. Or if anyone can give me directions on how to install any of the roms for this phone via odin it would be helpful as well.
I would like to root due to I need to remove allot of the bloatware on the phone its really full of apps that I will never use.
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Read the cf auto root thread.ur answer is in the few last pages
TWEAKED N3
BACARDILIMON said:
Read the cf auto root thread.ur answer is in the few last pages
TWEAKED N3
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I have gone through those steps. It always comes up with same thing in the recovery says RECOVERY something about enforced smsrecovery it goes too fast. But it does not work.
arielb27 said:
I have gone through those steps. It always comes up with same thing in the recovery says RECOVERY something about enforced smsrecovery it goes too fast. But it does not work.
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I am for sure that you did not use cf autoroot for the euro phone. I am willing to bet that you might also be trying the wrong recovery. Only 2 exist for the 4.4.2 boot loader.
TWEAKED N3
I was having the exact same problem you are having right now, and BACARDICIMON helped me out of it. I downloaded the original 4.2.2 firmware from sammobile.com and then used odin 3.9 and flashed that. It started working perfectly afterwards.
Hi guys, I just got a galaxy s4 for t mobile and it came with 4.2.2 version of android. I'm scared to brick the phone but I really want to root it. Can someone point me to the right direction? Been reading some tutorials but they are for different versions of android. How do I root my phone without bricking it or tripping Knox?
itsfredo said:
Hi guys, I just got a galaxy s4 for t mobile and it came with 4.2.2 version of android. I'm scared to brick the phone but I really want to root it. Can someone point me to the right direction? Been reading some tutorials but they are for different versions of android. How do I root my phone without bricking it or tripping Knox?
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4.2.2 doesnt have Knox. Use CF-Auto Root by Chainfire to root.
The Sickness said:
4.2.2 doesnt have Knox. Use CF-Auto Root by Chainfire to root.
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Thanks! Now it seems that cf auto root comes with a stock kernel and recovery. Is this changeable? Can I install a custom recovery and kernel after using cf auto root? Or should I find a different method of rooting for this? Are there any safe ones out there. It seems that a lot is outdated and I'm afraid of installing the wrong thing.
itsfredo said:
Thanks! Now it seems that cf auto root comes with a stock kernel and recovery. Is this changeable? Can I install a custom recovery and kernel after using cf auto root? Or should I find a different method of rooting for this? Are there any safe ones out there. It seems that a lot is outdated and I'm afraid of installing the wrong thing.
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I don't know if towelroot will root 4.2.2, but it doesn't install a recovery.
Rob
itsfredo said:
Thanks! Now it seems that cf auto root comes with a stock kernel and recovery. Is this changeable? Can I install a custom recovery and kernel after using cf auto root? Or should I find a different method of rooting for this? Are there any safe ones out there. It seems that a lot is outdated and I'm afraid of installing the wrong thing.
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You're calling a rooting method outdated while using the exact "outdated" software it was meant to root in the first place. CF-autoroot is as safe as safe can be. In fact, I know it still works for 4.3 and I THINK 4.4.2; it just trips the KNOX counter on them... still gets the job done though.
As far as your concern of installing the recovery; it first flashes its own recovery so it can use an exploit, then reverts it back to stock. I believe the kernel is untouched.
If your end goal is to move on to custom recoveries and custom ROMs you can bypass the rooting process altogether and go straight for the recovery/ROM.
lordcheeto03 said:
You're calling a rooting method outdated while using the exact "outdated" software it was meant to root in the first place. CF-autoroot is as safe as safe can be. In fact, I know it still works for 4.3 and I THINK 4.4.2; it just trips the KNOX counter on them... still gets the job done though.
As far as your concern of installing the recovery; it first flashes its own recovery so it can use an exploit, then reverts it back to stock. I believe the kernel is untouched.
If your end goal is to move on to custom recoveries and custom ROMs you can bypass the rooting process altogether and go straight for the recovery/ROM.
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This.
You really don't need CF Auto Root at all until all you want to do is root the stock rom.
If you want to install a customer rom, use Odin to install a custom recovery and flash whatever you want from there.
lordcheeto03 said:
If your end goal is to move on to custom recoveries and custom ROMs you can bypass the rooting process altogether and go straight for the recovery/ROM.
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That's precisely my end goal. And I guess my question is how to do this safely with the Android version I have.
I didn't mean the root method was outdated; I was talking about some of the information that's on the general forum regarding root. There is even a post on one of the stickies asking for updated info in May. This scares me because for all I know I can follow one of these methods to root or install a custom recovery/rom and end up with a brick because something is no longer compatible.
I guess my question is: what is the best (updated) method of installing a custom rom/recovery for my tmobile s4 with android 4.2.2?
Use cf autoroot and flash clockworkmod through Odin. Download rommanager. Download a rom. Hit install rom from SD card. Pick your ROM from downloads.
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That's precisely my end goal. And I guess my question is how to do this safely with the Android version I have.
I didn't mean the root method was outdated; I was talking about some of the information that's on the general forum regarding root. There is even a post on one of the stickies asking for updated info in May. This scares me because for all I know I can follow one of these methods to root or install a custom recovery/rom and end up with a brick because something is no longer compatible.
I guess my question is: what is the best (updated) method of installing a custom rom/recovery for my tmobile s4 with android 4.2.2?
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I understand your apprehension, i really do. What I've said to do has worked for me when i got the phone over a year ago, and has worked here recently when i did it again. I'm trying to tell you there is no need for an updated way of doing what you want. If you want root, use CFauto root. Like i said, that method was done specifically for MDB and MDL firmwares, there is no better choice. Newer yeah, but better? Not a chance. Your firmware is equally outdated and it's worked for millions of users without fail.
As far as a custom ROM goes, find one you want to use, put it on your SD card, pick a recovery (CWM, Philz, or TWRP), flash that in Odin, boot to recovery (power+volume up) , do a full wipe (system, data, and cache) select the ROM, and flash. No need to root at all if you want to go straight to a custom ROM.
EDIT: Obviously, you might want to perform a nandroid backup once you flash your recovery... but that's really optional as long as you have the stock Odin-flashable firmware. Totally up to you.
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I just got the note. Love the hardware but the software is pissing me off. I was waiting to root until I get the lollipop but I can't handle the lack of control and all the advertisements. I gave my S4 to my son and it is still running better than this new machine that should be a Monster.
So... Can I root without a custom recovery? If so what can I do about the knox before it unroots. If it's disabled or gone will I still get my 5.0?
More preferably can I get the stock recovery so I can get a copy of the 4.4.4 before it upgrades?
You can root stock without custom recovery but you'd need custom recovery for a nandroid backup or custom ROM or kernel.
Chain Fire auto root will disable Knox enough for root and Knox would not disable root. It's an Odin tar flash so no custom recovery required for root.
As far as upgrading, you'd have to fully un-root for OTA upgrade but there's always Kies or Odin for updates which would mean rooting again. As far as having a stock backup, the stock NK2 tar is available for download both in the Sprint Note 4 XDA forum and sammobile.com or even Kies. Voiding the warranty with Knox trip and risking root are the only true risks to consider. I'd suggest having the tools you need in a folder before you begin. CF auto root includes Odin; have a backup of NK2 stock tar and TWRP in case you need them. It wouldn't hurt to also have a custom ROM on hand to flash if you run into root issues.
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You can root stock without custom recovery but you'd need custom recovery for a nandroid backup or custom ROM or kernel.
Chain Fire auto root will disable Knox enough for root and Knox would not disable root. It's an Odin tar flash so no custom recovery required for root.
As far as upgrading, you'd have to fully un-root for OTA upgrade but there's always Kies or Odin for updates which would mean rooting again. As far as having a stock backup, the stock NK2 tar is available for download both in the Sprint Note 4 XDA forum and sammobile.com or even Kies. Voiding the warranty with Knox trip and risking root are the only true risks to consider. I'd suggest having the tools you need in a folder before you begin. CF auto root includes Odin; have a backup of NK2 stock tar and TWRP in case you need them. It wouldn't hurt to also have a custom ROM on hand to flash if you run into root issues.
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Sprint's OTA is disabled with root or with out Knox. I rooted my daughter's S3 a week ago. Just used Odin to TWRP and flashed superuser. Chains asked if he could fight back and I said no. within 12 hrs Sprint sent an update and on reboot it was full un root. I was hoping if I was able to just put Superuser in that things would be manageable until I get 5.0.
If you have the stuff to unroot that would be awesome. It's impossible to say when I'll get the update. I can't get KIES to work on stock devices much less anything with root. Sprint doesn't use a serial number that samsung recognizes for a push. Does a Knox trip really void the Warranty if the phone is broken?
Root/Knox trip voids warranty as far as Samsung is concerned. Sprint and other extended warranties may not check but it's a warning that gets reiterated often for non liability reasons.
Odin the stock tar is only true un-root method that should work to restore OTA updates but also Odin the lollipop stock tar, when available, would be an option many rooted users would choose.
When I say root with stock ROM I don't mean install a ROM. I just want to have root control over apps. If I can just get super user unstalled things would be great. I"m lost where it comes to the knox though. and there seems to be a whole lot of it on this ROM. Can knox be disabled with out a trip. I know it can on the S4 and earlier. I just sent TWRp in with ODIN 3 or 4 times in a row then booted straight to recovery flashed superuser then as soon as it booted back in into Andoid I gave superuser permission to jump on knox.
I downloaded an app that says it can make ADB work with out root. But I can't get it to work on my pc
Knox trips now; no way known to undo that.
The stock kernel blocks ADB access. I haven't tried it but I thought I had read that ADB will work if phone is in recovery. Don't hold me to it.
Edit: reading your earlier post about Knox undoing root for OTA if flashing superuser and keeping Knox enabled, many rooted users found that they could un-root and download the NK2 update but it wouldn't flash due to "modified" system. I think Knox is evolving more complex in Note 4. Your method may be simpler but may not work as intended to OTA to lollipop. Odin is the method you'd have to be comfortable with before rooting.
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Root/Knox trip voids warranty as far as Samsung is concerned. Sprint and other extended warranties may not check but it's a warning that gets reiterated often for non liability reasons.
Odin the stock tar is only true un-root method that should work to restore OTA updates but also Odin the lollipop stock tar, when available, would be an option many rooted users would choose.
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How do you get he tar for Odin? Your totally right. about Odin and the tar. I really don't have to wait to get the OTA when I can just find it myself.
How did you root, a recovery and Odin? I'm trying to get the ADB to work first. I guess ADB unlock OEM will wipe everything you have but opens the firmware also. I'm not going to try that way right now I just want to shoot superuser in that way.
Sorry didn't word that very well. How do you use Odin to root without installing a custom recovery?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55865442&postcount=3
Find the 910P link and download it; open the archive and placed the contents into a folder placed and named something like Odin or Note 4 root.
There are many users around xda that have sent their phones to samsung for a warranty repair with Knox tripped and had no problem. If you really look around you'll see this Knox bit thing is really no big deal. Just don't truly brick your phone and you'll be fine
Voiding Samsung warranty isn't an issue for most people anyways. I don't warranty through Samsung. I purchased my phone from Sprint and Sprint handles the warranty.
samep said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55865442&postcount=3
Find the 910P link and download it; open the archive and placed the contents into a folder placed and named something like Odin or Note 4 root.
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Thanks for the instructions here. It worked like a charm. I had no idea I could root with out a custom recover.
planb234 said:
Thanks for the instructions here. It worked like a charm. I had no idea I could root with out a custom recover.
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You're welcome. If you want to backup stock recovery and use custom recovery and go back to stock recovery without flashing the the stock tar in Odin, try Flashify.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cgollner.flashify
You'd need custom recovery for backup nandroid or flashing custom ROMs, kernels, and mods (remember stock Rom is Odexed and some mods are intended for the ROM it was based on and may also be deodexed).
Flashify can also backup the stock kernel but I'd recommend the stock kernel flash because custom kernel will swap some modules that Flashify won't restore. You could skip the custom kernel unless you enjoy fiddling with custom apps and settings. The custom kernel will also have to be worked around for some video streaming and games. The stock kernel is quite capable and in my experience holds it own in benchmarks and battery savings.
planb234 said:
Voiding Samsung warranty isn't an issue for most people anyways. I don't warranty through Samsung. I purchased my phone from Sprint and Sprint handles the warranty.
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You pay the extra $$ for sprints protection plan?
jhill110 said:
You pay the extra $$ for sprints protection plan?
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Yes I pay 11 a month for insurance. Everything is covered for 6 months or something like that. The insurance is for breakage.
samep said:
You're welcome. If you want to backup stock recovery and use custom recovery and go back to stock recovery without flashing the the stock tar in Odin, try Flashify.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cgollner.flashify
You'd need custom recovery for backup nandroid or flashing custom ROMs, kernels, and mods (remember stock Rom is Odexed and some mods are intended for the ROM it was based on and may also be deodexed).
Flashify can also backup the stock kernel but I'd recommend the stock kernel flash because custom kernel will swap some modules that Flashify won't restore. You could skip the custom kernel unless you enjoy fiddling with custom apps and settings. The custom kernel will also have to be worked around for some video streaming and games. The stock kernel is quite capable and in my experience holds it own in benchmarks and battery savings.
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I'm going to give this method a shot. I'm sick of waiting on v Sprint to delivery anything but hidden costs. I thought it would be cool to have the original lollipop delivered to my phone but honestly I wouldn't use it long anyways. There is bound room for outside influence in a 700 dollar device. I'm going with the deodexed 5.0 on xda. I'll let you know how the flashify toy recommended goes. Your your saying it can be used to back entire stock device without custom recovery so i can lock it down before i start sending repeated knox trjps to Samsung? In putting all good Samsung apps into backup and then locking Samsung from my device indefinite
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I'm going to give this method a shot. I'm sick of waiting on v Sprint to delivery anything but hidden costs. I thought it would be cool to have the original lollipop delivered to my phone but honestly I wouldn't use it long anyways. There is bound room for outside influence in a 700 dollar device. I'm going with the deodexed 5.0 on xda. I'll let you know how the flashify toy recommended goes. Your your saying it can be used to back entire stock device without custom recovery so i can lock it down before i start sending repeated knox trjps to Samsung? In putting all good Samsung apps into backup and then locking Samsung from my device indefinite
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I believe I was saying you could backup stock recovery, Odin flash a custom recovery, perform a nandroid backup, flash a custom ROM.
Not sure who it was that asked but attempting to restore a nandroid and restore stock recovery in order to gain OTA update of lollipop may not be a sure thing. I'm not sure if it would work coming from CM12 because the partitions may be different; unsure myself. It's also no guarantee that the update feature wouldn't still flag the system as modified and refuse to install the update. Don't hold me to that; I'd recommend Odin stock tar to come back to KitKat but still unsure if OTA would be possible, if that is your goal. And most, if not all developers, recommend a full wipe/clean install before flashing custom ROMs and updates. Odin to stock tar is also a common suggested troubleshooting step as well. There is Kies and Odin for Samsung lollipop that would still give you the update for rooted devices.
I'd also recommend having CF Auto Root that includes Odin downloaded and standing by along with tar for TWRP, and NK2 stock tar. If things go wrong, you'll recover quicker with less stress. And wait until you have some to time to recover before attempting. Gotta be comfortable with Odin and have the Samsung PC drivers pre-installed and willing to risk the consequences. Others and myself can offer helpful advice, if needed.
The rooted warranty concerns have been explained away by a few. But if you feel more comfortable taking a phone in for repair with stock recovery and a restored stock nandroid go for it. You at least have to accept the notion that your custom ROM may be flashed over if taken in as well.
As far as skipping the CF auto root, I think you can if flashing a rooted ROM in custom recovery but I don't know for sure you can. I'm guessing you can because there's a flashable SuperSU that you can flash to root stock after Odin of custom recovery. A rooted ROM shouldn't be different.
Sorry if I've made assumptions. Just wanted to be clear and not misleading. Flashify can simplify things, especially stock recovery backup and restore. But don't use Flashify to backup and restore kernels unless you're also manually restoring the lib modules along with it; Flashify won't do that for you.
The flashify worked i doubt i will ever put my device back to stock. Waitng for the ota i noticed that Samsung was running updates to my device at least 10 times a day. Security updates meaning they are securing their own interests. yes it says warranty voided but I'm not sure what that means. Samsung won't sell me a phone they would rather let sprint sprint fiscally rape me in the deal. I've not seen on any Samsung site where i can purchase or warranty a device. there access is denied. The only company i allow is Google. True they market some of my information but the majority of their interest is bug reports which is used for improvement. Improvement warrants bandwith. I had the lollipop on my s4 months ago and Samsung is not even releasing it in the us. In short Samsung is left wanting in support. I rooted my device this morn and will install deodexed lollipop when i get off work. Your advice has been helpful and i lookforward to more on upgrading my kernel.
Here's my experience this past week. I flashed the stock tar and hit update now. I got the up to date message. Rooted, tried again... No dice system has been blah blah blah. I unrooted system update : system up to date. Rerooted flashed twrp of course no go. Unrooted flashed stock recovery and.... No go. Re-flashed stock rom... System up to date. Flashed twrp no go. Flashed stock recovery and still no go.
So, it seems once you flash custom recovery there's no going back without flashing the stock rom. Whew, that was a mouth full.
It's mho this Knox thing is blown way out of perportion. Hardware warranty repairs will be done even if Knox is tripped. Plenty of members have done so. If one were to brick their phone flashing that might be a different story.
I don't want the stock ROM anyways. Samsungs overkill with the Knox is equivalent to Microsoft Security update. Samsung makes some sweet hardware but fails the open source. Their trying to be Steve Jobs or Bill Gates. If wanted a to not upgrade I would stick with a Nexus. Google is the only company who agrees that your device is yours and you should always try and improve it. I was seriously getting angry being put last in the world for the newest software. Samsung saying they are updating my device which basically meant Knox was spying and correcting any changes I made. Bricking is most likely to occur if you upgrade with stock recovery.
I will say this for sprint warranty. They don't care. As long as they are able to slip in a several hidden costs with any change or purchase they are satisfied. Sprint repair are all 3rd party representatives. If you happen to find an actual sprint location you will be sent to a third party sprint store. The 3rd party will fix you up as of they don't they don't get paid.
Hi everyone.
Is there any way to root the Note 2 N7100 on Samsung official firmware Kitkat without tripping Knox. ??
My bootloader is ND4
My baseband is ND3
My PDA is ND4
If there is a safe method, what is it ...
I tried TR but got that my device is not supported.
My Knox is 0x0
If there isn't & I must trip Knox to root, so what's the best & safest method for rooting my N7100?? My warranty is gone long time ago anyway.
And if I'm gonna trip Knox so I prefer to have a custom recovery, what should I use? I thought of TWRP but found some complaining that 2.8.6 caused loss of signal... What should I use??
One more question, please.
Will rooting my phone & tripping Knox prevent future OTA update to the long awaited official Samsung Lollipop??
If the answer is yes is there a way around it ?? Will I be able to flash it by Odin after getting it from any where like Sammobile ?
Sorry for being long & Thanks
zoghrob said:
Hi everyone.
Is there any way to root the Note 2 N7100 on Samsung official firmware Kitkat without tripping Knox. ??
My bootloader is ND4
My baseband is ND3
My PDA is ND4
If there is a safe method, what is it ...
I tried TR but got that my device is not supported.
My Knox is 0x0
If there isn't & I must trip Knox to root, so what's the best & safest method for rooting my N7100?? My warranty is gone long time ago anyway.
And if I'm gonna trip Knox so I prefer to have a custom recovery, what should I use? I thought of TWRP but found some complaining that 2.8.6 caused loss of signal... What should I use??
One more question, please.
Will rooting my phone & tripping Knox prevent future OTA update to the long awaited official Samsung Lollipop??
If the answer is yes is there a way around it ?? Will I be able to flash it by Odin after getting it from any where like Sammobile ?
Sorry for being long & Thanks
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Just root it as posted in sticky thread.
You don't have warranty, so just don't bother. Use odin, root and install recovery, then rom.
You can flash stock rom via odin if you want, you can install custom roms via recovery.
I'm using TWRP for 2 years and never had any problem. You can also use Philz. For normal user it doesn't really matter.
yaro666 said:
Just root it as posted in sticky thread.
You don't have warranty, so just don't bother. Use odin, root and install recovery, then rom.
You can flash stock rom via odin if you want, you can install custom roms via recovery.
I'm using TWRP for 2 years and never had any problem. You can also use Philz. For normal user it doesn't really matter.
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Thank you very much for your help.
Actually I found no sticky threads for rooting 4.4.2. Most of the sticky threads are dating since 2012 with 4.1.2 & 4.3.
However by searching I found 2 threads for 4.4.2, one of them is
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2767604
This one uses CF-auto-root... but no mention about any custom recovery. Will I lose root or mess things up if I install TWRP after that??
The other thread is
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2730764
This one uses the typical steps that I know, custom recovery then SuperSU. But it uses Philz recovery. Can I substitute it with TWRP??
Thank you for your help & patience.
The most important question: Why do you want to root?
If you like to flash a custom rom no need for root, any custom recovery - TWRP or CWM - flashed with Odin will do.
Androidwizzard said:
The most important question: Why do you want to root?
If you like to flash a custom rom no need for root, any custom recovery - TWRP or CWM - flashed with Odin will do.
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I'm not planning to flash custom rom right now, may be later.
I want to root to be able to use some apps that require root. Plus, having full control over my phone.
In odin you have option to choose recovery file - AP.
After flashing recovery just install superSU via recovery.
DO a backup of your device and EFS before you flash anything.
yaro666 said:
In odin you have option to choose recovery file - AP.
After flashing recovery just install superSU via recovery.
DO a backup of your device and EFS before you flash anything.
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Thank you for your help.
I don't know how to make a backup without recovery. So I flashed TWRP 2.8.6, took a backup then installed SuperSU via TWRP.
All went well except that I lost the signal and IMEI.
I found that I flashed TWRP t03gup while I should flashed t03g.
I reflashed the correct file then flashed the modem.bin of XXUFND3.
Everything thing is back to normal again except 2 things:
The icon of my service provider shifts place to the last app page after reboot, no matter where I place it...
The phone status shows custom (expected) but stays so even after using Triangle Away.
Is it better if I flash the stock firmware then recovery then SuperSU? ?? Or flashing the modem as I did was enough to straighten things up? ?
Thank you for your patience and help.
zoghrob said:
Thank you for your help.
I don't know how to make a backup without recovery. So I flashed TWRP 2.8.6, took a backup then installed SuperSU via TWRP.
All went well except that I lost the signal and IMEI.
I found that I flashed TWRP t03gup while I should flashed t03g.
I reflashed the correct file then flashed the modem.bin of XXUFND3.
Everything thing is back to normal again except 2 things:
The icon of my service provider shifts place to the last app page after reboot, no matter where I place it...
The phone status shows custom (expected) but stays so even after using Triangle Away.
Is it better if I flash the stock firmware then recovery then SuperSU? ?? Or flashing the modem as I did was enough to straighten things up? ?
Thank you for your patience and help.
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It should be OK just as it is now, but if you have 30min free time, you can flash stock, root, custom rom with full wipe to make sure you have everything straighten up
yaro666 said:
It should be OK just as it is now, but if you have 30min free time, you can flash stock, root, custom rom with full wipe to make sure you have everything straighten up
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30 min or even an hour is ok by me...
I'll do it right away. Flash stock, TWRP recovery then root with SuperSU.
As for the custom rom it'll have to wait as I didn't make up my mind which Lollipop to get... I'm kinda confused about it very much. I can't decide which to get.
I'm open for suggestions. lol
Thanks a million for your support.
If you need your phone for business don't flash lollipop. Still in beta phase, so bugs are occuring often.
I use dr. ketan's V14 and it's the most stable rom I have used
yaro666 said:
If you need your phone for business don't flash lollipop. Still in beta phase, so bugs are occuring often.
I use dr. ketan's V14 and it's the most stable rom I have used
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My phone is for personal use not for business.
But I think I'll follow your advice & give Dr. Ketan's V14 a try.
I did flash stock firmware then flashed TWRP 2.8.6 (correct file this time.. lol) then installed root.
I did backup my phone & EFS by TWRP. All is excellent now.
Now I'll backup my contacts, sms, apps & data using Titanium back up then go for Dr. ketan's rom.
Wish me luck.
Thanks.
you will be positively surprised if youhad stock the whole time.
cheers
salute
yaro666 said:
you will be positively surprised if youhad stock the whole time.
cheers
salute
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Wow... it's awesome. ..
Thumbs up. ..
You are right.
I'm wondering right now how did I stuck to the stock firmware all the past time.
Thanks.