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[Q] Plz Help 4.3 down to 4.1.2. rooted tried a few

So I'm by no means super knowledgable with this stuff but I've rooted a few phones, played around with CM on my old evo but for the most part I enjoy rooted stock.
I have Galaxy S3 Sprint 4.3 updated OTA from a rooted (4.1.2). When I took the OTA I lost root, no big deal I used Odin and flashed the CF auto root, it said it removed knox and I had root back. Cool!
In short 4.3 sucked, wanted to downgrade back so things like TrevE mod would work again and it wouldn't be so buggy. I tried to use odin to flash "KIES_HOME_L710VPBMD4_L710SPRBMD4_1130792_REV03_user_low_ship.tar.md5" but it gave me the "Use Kies Recovery and error occured" message.
So I then used odin and flashed TWRP and my phone booted.
I'm back on 4.3 rooted.
I've tried picking through the forums and interwebz for answers but I get mixed messages and info on international versions and what not.
I'm tired of trying to figure it out and really could use some help downgrading back to 4.1.2
Thanks,
Brandon

mentorkyrom said:
So I'm by no means super knowledgable with this stuff but I've rooted a few phones, played around with CM on my old evo but for the most part I enjoy rooted stock.
I have Galaxy S3 Sprint 4.3 updated OTA from a rooted (4.1.2). When I took the OTA I lost root, no big deal I used Odin and flashed the CF auto root, it said it removed knox and I had root back. Cool!
In short 4.3 sucked, wanted to downgrade back so things like TrevE mod would work again and it wouldn't be so buggy. I tried to use odin to flash "KIES_HOME_L710VPBMD4_L710SPRBMD4_1130792_REV03_user_low_ship.tar.md5" but it gave me the "Use Kies Recovery and error occured" message.
So I then used odin and flashed TWRP and my phone booted.
I'm back on 4.3 rooted.
I've tried picking through the forums and interwebz for answers but I get mixed messages and info on international versions and what not.
I'm tired of trying to figure it out and really could use some help downgrading back to 4.1.2
Thanks,
Brandon
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The 4.3 OTA installed a locked bootloader, which will prevent you from ODIN'ing back to a previous version. you can flash any ROM you would like from recovery, you CANNOT downgrade the bootloader. As of right now, if you have knox, you are stuck with it.
You are extremely lucky that you didn't brick your phone by using odin to flash a non-4.3 tar. I wouldnt try again.
My advice is, remain rooted with a custom recovery, and find a ROM to your liking, and flash that.
I have also heard that we cannot flash custom kernels on the knox (MK3) bootloader as well, but I havent verified that.

eletendre84 said:
The 4.3 OTA installed a locked bootloader, which will prevent you from ODIN'ing back to a previous version. you can flash any ROM you would like from recovery, you CANNOT downgrade the bootloader. As of right now, if you have knox, you are stuck with it.
You are extremely lucky that you didn't brick your phone by using odin to flash a non-4.3 tar. I wouldnt try again.
My advice is, remain rooted with a custom recovery, and find a ROM to your liking, and flash that.
I have also heard that we cannot flash custom kernels on the knox (MK3) bootloader as well, but I havent verified that.
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Thank you for the response. Is CyanogenMod an option then? If I go to CM could I flash back a stock 4.3 rom in the future?
As an added bonus question does CM allow wifi tethering?
Again thank you for the response.

mentorkyrom said:
Thank you for the response. Is CyanogenMod an option then? If I go to CM could I flash back a stock 4.3 rom in the future?
As an added bonus question does CM allow wifi tethering?
Again thank you for the response.
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CM is certainly an option. In fact, its what i am running now. CM11 12-24. Runs great. You can always odin the stock mk3 tar and go back to stock unrooted, at any time.
in order to flash cm11 you MUST be on TWRP 2.6.3.1 or CWM 6.0.4.5 or newer or the assert check will fail.
not sure on the tethering, but im pretty sure it definitely works on cm10.2 and i think it does on 11 as well, but dont quote me on that.

eletendre84 said:
CM is certainly an option. In fact, its what i am running now. CM11 12-24. Runs great. You can always odin the stock mk3 tar and go back to stock unrooted, at any time.
in order to flash cm11 you MUST be on TWRP 2.6.3.1 or CWM 6.0.4.5 or newer or the assert check will fail.
not sure on the tethering, but im pretty sure it definitely works on cm10.2 and i think it does on 11 as well, but dont quote me on that.
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Tethering is available on CM11 just like it was on 10.2; would strongly recommend latest Philz Touch Recovery over either TWRP or CWM though. Although it is based on CWM, it has proven to be pretty much the superior recovery option for flashing any Android build number, plus it is highly customizable.
Philz Touch Recovery

this is how to downgrade
mentorkyrom said:
So I'm by no means super knowledgable with this stuff but I've rooted a few phones, played around with CM on my old evo but for the most part I enjoy rooted stock.
I have Galaxy S3 Sprint 4.3 updated OTA from a rooted (4.1.2). When I took the OTA I lost root, no big deal I used Odin and flashed the CF auto root, it said it removed knox and I had root back. Cool!
In short 4.3 sucked, wanted to downgrade back so things like TrevE mod would work again and it wouldn't be so buggy. I tried to use odin to flash "KIES_HOME_L710VPBMD4_L710SPRBMD4_1130792_REV03_user_low_ship.tar.md5" but it gave me the "Use Kies Recovery and error occured" message.
So I then used odin and flashed TWRP and my phone booted.
I'm back on 4.3 rooted.
I've tried picking through the forums and interwebz for answers but I get mixed messages and info on international versions and what not.
I'm tired of trying to figure it out and really could use some help downgrading back to 4.1.2
Thanks,
Brandon
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do a factory data reset then use odin auto root from computer ok...... after boot u will get a security message supersu will be unfortunately stopping this is ok..... then u will need to download the supersu.app to root of sd then manually install this will update it and now u can turn off knox and have root... then go to market and download odin mobile then flash your .tar file u want and you will be good to go 4.1.2 doesn't have knox and has a unlocked bootloader so have fun bro this method may work for other phones

smuther22 said:
do a factory data reset then use odin auto root from computer ok...... after boot u will get a security message supersu will be unfortunately stopping this is ok..... then u will need to download the supersu.app to root of sd then manually install this will update it and now u can turn off knox and have root... then go to market and download odin mobile then flash your .tar file u want and you will be good to go 4.1.2 doesn't have knox and has a unlocked bootloader so have fun bro this method may work for other phones
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Do you realize that this thread hasn't been used in a couple of months? I would assume the author has no more need of advice based on the inactivity. Also, once Knox is installed, it is on the phone to stay. PERIOD. NO DOWNGRADING POSSIBLE VIA ODIN. Custom ROMs of any build are fine via custom recovery, but any attempt to change the bootloader will trigger Knox and brick the phone. Dangerous info to be posting here, especially since someone else who doesn't know better might try this.

Help for first time Note 2 user.

Hello. I just ordered my galaxy note 2 N7100 Int. version(not the n7105 lte one). I live in Greece and the phone should have arrived by 15-20 January. Even though I'm not an android noob and im using android for 2-3 years and made my own ROMs as well, I have no clue how Samsung phones work. So I would like a detailed guide please about the steps I'm will mention:
*What is the latest official firmware I can install on my N7100? How can I do that?(I'm not familiar with OTA's)
*How can I root that firmware? What is the best option for rooting it?(chainfire etc but give details on how to do it with those methods)
*Do I need to unlock my bootloader to install custom recovery and flash a rom?If so how can I do that?
*Is Philz recovery fully working and compatible with 4.4+ ROMs? If so how can I install it? If not whats the best recovery with support for 4.4+ ROMs?
*What is the best ROM with the features of Note 3?(stable no bugs good for gaming) How can I install that ROM?
*What is the best 4.4 ROM?(stable no bugs good for gaming) How can I install that ROM?
*How do I backup my IMEI?
*What is the procedure to install a ROM?(on my old phone it was : 1)Backup 2)Factory reset 3)Wipe cache,dalvik cache, system, data, and again format cache 4)Install ROM 5)Install GAPPS and reboot. Done. Are there any differences here?
I wont buy a new phone for the next 1-2 years at least so I wont my new phone to be safe when playing with custom ROMs. If you are about to comment without a detailed guide or at least telling me where to look for that guide dont comment at all, it wont help me.Thanks in advance and sorry for the trouble.

Too many questions to answer and therefore I recommend to go to the Development section for further information. Each Rom has its own install instructions, just read there and learn more about your device :good:
You can't get spoonfed here, sorry mate.

To try to answer just a few... really too many questions, you need to read a bit before posting so many questins
*What is the latest official firmware I can install on my N7100? How can I do that?(I'm not familiar with OTA's)
MKD - Indian, MK9 - european, ML3 - asian. They all work on any int 7100 model.
*Do I need to unlock my bootloader to install custom recovery and flash a rom?If so how can I do that?
You just have to root.
*What is the best ROM with the features of Note 3?(stable no bugs good for gaming) How can I install that ROM?
Most popular are DN3 and Phoenix (also maybe DR Ketan's custom ROM, but it isn't developed anymore). I personaly use Criskelo which is really stable and smooth.
*What is the procedure to install a ROM?(on my old phone it was : 1)Backup 2)Factory reset 3)Wipe cache,dalvik cache, system, data, and again format cache 4)Install ROM 5)Install GAPPS and reboot. Done. Are there any differences here?
In Phils's recovery (I recommend v 5.15, not v 6.x - because of Aroma bug) you do "prepare for ROM flashing" and then flash ROM. Erasing dalvik/system/cache etc can't hurt but is not necessary, all is done in one go. From ODIN - go to download mode, connect to PC, run ODIN and select md5 file to flash.

dalanik said:
To try to answer just a few... really too many questions, you need to read a bit before posting so many questins
*What is the latest official firmware I can install on my N7100? How can I do that?(I'm not familiar with OTA's)
MKD - Indian, MK9 - european, ML3 - asian. They all work on any int 7100 model.
*Do I need to unlock my bootloader to install custom recovery and flash a rom?If so how can I do that?
You just have to root.
*What is the best ROM with the features of Note 3?(stable no bugs good for gaming) How can I install that ROM?
Most popular are DN3 and Phoenix (also maybe DR Ketan's custom ROM, but it isn't developed anymore). I personaly use Criskelo which is really stable and smooth.
*What is the procedure to install a ROM?(on my old phone it was : 1)Backup 2)Factory reset 3)Wipe cache,dalvik cache, system, data, and again format cache 4)Install ROM 5)Install GAPPS and reboot. Done. Are there any differences here?
In Phils's recovery (I recommend v 5.15, not v 6.x - because of Aroma bug) you do "prepare for ROM flashing" and then flash ROM. Erasing dalvik/system/cache etc can't hurt but is not necessary, all is done in one go. From ODIN - go to download mode, connect to PC, run ODIN and select md5 file to flash.
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Hey @dalanik thanks for your quick answer. I have some more questions for you. First of all, are 4.4+ roms stable for this phone for daily use and gaming? Is Philz recovery 5.15 compatible with 4.4+ roms? How do I root my device(latest official firmware) and how do I use ODIN(why is odin needed, what is odin doing)?What about backing up my IMEI? Thanks in advance.

I haven't tried 4.4 ROMs so I don't knpw. As for rooting just have a look at the forum there are several threads on rooting. Odin flashes ROMs.
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dalanik said:
I haven't tried 4.4 ROMs so I don't knpw. As for rooting just have a look at the forum there are several threads on rooting. Odin flashes ROMs.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda premium
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What should I use to flash roms, odin or recovery(twrp, cwm etc)?

Actually Odin can be used to flash I.e. bootloader which recovery can't. Odon is used to flash official Samsung stock ROMs in md5 format while recovery is used fir custom ROMs mostly with the Aroma installer.
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dalanik said:
Actually Odin can be used to flash I.e. bootloader which recovery can't. Odon is used to flash official Samsung stock ROMs in md5 format while recovery is used fir custom ROMs mostly with the Aroma installer.
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So to flash Phoenix ROM or DN3 or any KK ROM I dont need ODIN correct?

I think if youre on 4.1.2 you need to flash new bootloader. Each rom has instructions so hav3 a look at rom thread
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First when arrives your phone see the firmware version, if it has 4.3 and flash custom recovery firmware etc you loose your warranty and for the moment is not possible to take warranty back. If your firmware is 4.1.2 the things are more simple you can flash everything (except 4.3 official bootloader also 4.3 official firmware witch includes bootloader) and have when you need your warranty back.
All your answers are in the forum search for start dr.ketan threads. You can start from here (old thread but very good writed for 4.1.2 there are some differences with 4.3 you have to check before act for example mobile Odin trigger the warranty at 4.3 also triangle away cannot affect knox etc etc)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896696
he has plenty of guides solutions etc and I think you will find many answers for your questions. Now if your phone is at 4.1.2 firmware and you want to flash 4.3, root etc or 4.3 custom rom (not all) repost to guide you how to flash and also have your warranty back.
Kaloriziko.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk 2

vagsvag said:
First when arrives your phone see the firmware version, if it has 4.3 and flash custom recovery firmware etc you loose your warranty and for the moment is not possible to take warranty back. If your firmware is 4.1.2 the things are more simple you can flash everything (except 4.3 official bootloader also 4.3 official firmware witch includes bootloader) and have when you need your warranty back.
All your answers are in the forum search for start dr.ketan threads. You can start from here (old thread but very good writed for 4.1.2 there are some differences with 4.3 you have to check before act for example mobile Odin trigger the warranty at 4.3 also triangle away cannot affect knox etc etc)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896696
he has plenty of guides solutions etc and I think you will find many answers for your questions. Now if your phone is at 4.1.2 firmware and you want to flash 4.3, root etc or 4.3 custom rom (not all) repost to guide you how to flash and also have your warranty back.
Kaloriziko.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk 2
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Hello @dalanik, @vagsvag I just got my Note 2(Italy version) GT-N7100. Here's the details from the settings menu
*Android 4.1.2(gives me the ability to update to 4.3)
*Baseband N7100XXDMF1
*Kernel 3.0.31-1071214
*Build number JZO54K.N7100XXDME6
The phone is COMPLETELY stock, no root no custom recovery nothing. Can you please give me full instructions on how to install this ROM please?

About 4.4 ROMs, i have tried them.
Things that don't work:
- Bluetooth ear piece???
- Camera is not 100% stable
- I don't have sound when recording videos (Could be just me, no one else is mentioning it )
- Bad FPS in games (tried many kernels and governors, still bad. AGAIN, could be just me, no one else is mentioning it )
And that's it.
For DN3
- Root
- Flash recovery (TWRP my choice)
- Full wipe (data,system,internal storage,cache)
- Flash DN3 (you will now get a bootloop)
- Flash it ONE MORE TIME,
There is something wrong with AROMA installer, if you look closely it doesn't install the ROM for the 1st time, hence the bootloop.
Also, you DON'T NEED TO FLASH the new bootloader. I'm on the DMG1 bootloader and i'm running DN3.
If you don't flash the bootloader, you have to flash the Wi-Fi fix, to get the Wi-Fi working.
You may also experience a reboot once in a week or 2 weeks, it's random.
I personally don't want to flash the BL, because i'm terrified of ODIN. I have a bad history with it :laugh:

Mashed_Potatoes said:
About 4.4 ROMs, i have tried them.
Things that don't work:
- Bluetooth ear piece???
- Camera is not 100% stable
- I don't have sound when recording videos (Could be just me, no one else is mentioning it )
- Bad FPS in games (tried many kernels and governors, still bad. AGAIN, could be just me, no one else is mentioning it )
And that's it.
For DN3
- Root
- Flash recovery (TWRP my choice)
- Full wipe (data,system,internal storage,cache)
- Flash DN3 (you will now get a bootloop)
- Flash it ONE MORE TIME,
There is something wrong with AROMA installer, if you look closely it doesn't install the ROM for the 1st time, hence the bootloop.
Also, you DON'T NEED TO FLASH the new bootloader. I'm on the DMG1 bootloader and i'm running DN3.
If you don't flash the bootloader, you have to flash the Wi-Fi fix, to get the Wi-Fi working.
You may also experience a reboot once in a week or 2 weeks, it's random.
I personally don't want to flash the BL, because i'm terrified of ODIN. I have a bad history with it :laugh:
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@Mashed_Potatoes thanks for your reply but please make things a little bit more detailed..
- Root -- how can I root my device? Link?
- Flash recovery (TWRP my choice)? I want Philz recovery. How do I flash it? Is there any problems with flashing DN3 with Philz recovery?
-What are the prerequisites to get DN3 ROM to work FULLY? Have you noticed any important bugs while using it? What bootloader do I have to flash to get DN3 ROM to work? How can I flash that bootloader? Remember I'm on stock 4.1.2
-How can I access Recovery on this phone?

NickVXD said:
@Mashed_Potatoes thanks for your reply but please make things a little bit more detailed..
- Root -- how can I root my device? Link?
- Flash recovery (TWRP my choice)? I want Philz recovery. How do I flash it? Is there any problems with flashing DN3 with Philz recovery?
-What are the prerequisites to get DN3 ROM to work FULLY? Have you noticed any important bugs while using it? What bootloader do I have to flash to get DN3 ROM to work? How can I flash that bootloader? Remember I'm on stock 4.1.2
-How can I access Recovery on this phone?
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You need to use the search option.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2143479 - How to root
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKfURLDlCRg - How to flash recovery
I don't know about Philz i had it before TWRP but that was before DN3 existed =D
I found no bugs in DN3, its a bit slower than 4.1.2 and the ram usage is higher
You flash the bootloader through ODIN too but i cant help you about that i don't know
Once you root your phone download an app called Quick Boot which will allow you to access Download and Recovery modes with one click

Hey guys I need a little bit more help.
 @Androidwizzard @dalanik @vagsvag
I successfully rooted my device with CF and ODIN and now I installed latest Philz recovery as well.
One last question.. I'm now on official 4.1.2(again xD)and like I have said again I want to install DN3 ROM.. What bootloader do I need to flash to get DN3 to work?How do I know what bootloader Im using right now?
What I think the procedure is
1)Install 4.3 bootloader while running 4.1.2
2)Make a backup with Philz recovery
3)Full wipe and install 4.3 DN3 ROM.
Is this correct? Dont forget to answer the other things I asked you!! Thanks in advance!!

NickVXD said:
Hey guys I need a little bit more help.
@Androidwizzard @dalanik @vagsvag
I successfully rooted my device with CF and ODIN and now I installed latest Philz recovery as well.
One last question.. I'm now on official 4.1.2(again xD)and like I have said again I want to install DN3 ROM.. What bootloader do I need to flash to get DN3 to work?How do I know what bootloader Im using right now?
What I think the procedure is
1)Install 4.3 bootloader while running 4.1.2
2)Make a backup with Philz recovery
3)Full wipe and install 4.3 DN3 ROM.
Is this correct? Dont forget to answer the other things I asked you!! Thanks in advance!!
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There is only ONE bootloader you can flash that is KNOX-Free, and that is MJ5. All other bootloaders have KNOX. Do not use Wi-Fi fix as that will fix your Wi-fi but may introduce instability, reboots, etc. Well, not the Fix, the fix is fine, but the rest of the old bootloader. Just flash MJ5.
I'd do backup FIRST and then flash bootloader.

dalanik said:
There is only ONE bootloader you can flash that is KNOX-Free, and that is MJ5. All other bootloaders have KNOX. Do not use Wi-Fi fix as that will fix your Wi-fi but may introduce instability, reboots, etc. Well, not the Fix, the fix is fine, but the rest of the old bootloader. Just flash MJ5.
I'd do backup FIRST and then flash bootloader.
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What is KNOX? If I flash MJ5 while running 4.1.2 and then flash DN3 are there going to be any problems?(instabilities wifi issues etc)Also how do I backup my bootloader? And what bootloader am I running now?

NickVXD said:
Hey guys I need a little bit more help.
I successfully rooted my device with CF and ODIN and now I installed latest Philz recovery as well.
One last question.. I'm now on official 4.1.2(again xD)and like I have said again I want to install DN3 ROM.. What bootloader do I need to flash to get DN3 to work?How do I know what bootloader Im using right now?
What I think the procedure is
1)Install 4.3 bootloader while running 4.1.2
2)Make a backup with Philz recovery
3)Full wipe and install 4.3 DN3 ROM.
Is this correct? Dont forget to answer the other things I asked you!! Thanks in advance!!
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FIRST of ALL: Don't use the latest Philz, RUN 5.15 is the best way to flash 4.3 custom roms with Aroma installer!
As mentioned: You got to take MJ5 if you ever want to go back to stock 4.1.2 at any time, besides you won't have wifi issue.
Only way to change bootloader: PC Odin.
Befor starting to install a custom rom read the instructions on the OP of the desired rom. There you find all necessary wipes to do :good:

Androidwizzard said:
FIRST of ALL: Don't use the latest Philz, RUN 5.15 is the best way to flash 4.3 custom roms with Aroma installer!
As mentioned: You got to take MJ5 if you ever want to go back to stock 4.1.2 at any time, besides you won't have wifi issue.
Only way to change bootloader: PC Odin.
Befor starting to install a custom rom read the instructions on the OP of the desired rom. There you find all necessary wipes to do :good:
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@Androidwizzard so to flash DN3 ROM this is what I have to do:
1)Flash Philz 5.15 recovery with ODIN
2)Flash MJ5 bootloader while running official 4.1.2
3)Make a backup of current with recovery
4)Make the necessary wipes with recovery and flash DN3 ROM
Is everything I mentioned above correct?
Also how do I go back COMPLETELY stock if I ever want?
And btw is DN3 ROM good for games? I play lots of heavy games like GTA:SA etc..
Thanks A LOT guys for helping me, I know I'm annoying but I'm really new to Samsung and this all seems really strange

NickVXD said:
@Androidwizzard so to flash DN3 ROM this is what I have to do:
1)Flash Philz 5.15 recovery with ODIN
2)Flash MJ5 bootloader while running official 4.1.2
3)Make a backup of current with recovery
4)Make the necessary wipes with recovery and flash DN3 ROM
Is everything I mentioned above correct?
Also how do I go back COMPLETELY stock if I ever want?
And btw is DN3 ROM good for games? I play lots of heavy games like GTA:SA etc..
Thanks A LOT guys for helping me, I know I'm annoying but I'm really new to Samsung and this all seems really strange
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Here you find all you need from the godfather Dr Ketan:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48032704&postcount=4753
There are several links and guides, :good:

Root JB 4.3 without voiding warranty

alrights guys I didn't see this anywhere in ur forum so here it is, after exchanging my s4 for a replacement, I got it with 4.3 and all this Knox nonsense already installed, Now I don't really care that much for samsung's warranty but I went out and look for a way to root our latest without triggering Knox counter just head on to the thread below and check it out... it has a catch but I would say it's worth the trade off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758

lol Dude, we just discussed this in another forum and this has been discussed in many forums. :silly:
Anyways... I've used this Verizon method on my buddies ATT Galaxy S4 with a locked bootloader on a 4.3 MK2 baseband. It does not trip the KNOX flag. There are no "trade-offs." It functions well. Chainfires AutoRoot works as well.

So with this method you cannot make a nandroid backup OR even restore one?

HTCMDA said:
So with this method you cannot make a nandroid backup OR even restore one?
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I have not tried to make a nandroid with a locked BL and will try tomorrow (damn sure it won't work). Best bet is to try Online Nandroid Manager. Nandroid backups require a custom recovery, it has nothing to do with having root.

Ive been out of the rooting world for a while, but with research, Ive caught up a little. However I do have a couple of questions;
With this method, can I still install a custom vanilla rom with 4.3/4.4?
If not, what are the benefits?

knipp21 said:
Ive been out of the rooting world for a while, but with research, Ive caught up a little. However I do have a couple of questions;
With this method, can I still install a custom vanilla rom with 4.3/4.4?
If not, what are the benefits?
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No, this will only root your phone (give your apps su/superuser access). You will still need to flash a custom recovery (i.e., PhilZ, TWRP, CWM) to flash roms like a custom Vanilla ROM. If you are on 4.2.2 bootloader, you can simply flash a custom recovery and flash the ROM. If you are on 4.3, you will be on the KNOX bootloader and if you flash a custom recovery to flash the ROM, you will void your KNOX warranty. If you don't care about the warranty or has expired, there is no difference.
1) Download Vanilla Rom,
2) Flash custom recovery tar (i.e., PhilZ, TWRP, CWM).
3) Go into recovery and flash rom.
4) ????
5) ??
6) Profit.

xdapowerapps said:
No, this will only root your phone (give your apps su/superuser access). You will still need to flash a custom recovery (i.e., PhilZ, TWRP, CWM) to flash roms like a custom Vanilla ROM. If you are on 4.2.2 bootloader, you can simply flash a custom recovery and flash the ROM. If you are on 4.3, you will be on the KNOX bootloader and if you flash a custom recovery to flash the ROM, you will void your KNOX warranty. If you don't care about the warranty or has expired, there is no difference.
1) Download Vanilla Rom,
2) Flash custom recovery tar (i.e., PhilZ, TWRP, CWM).
3) Go into recovery and flash rom.
4) ????
5) ??
6) Profit.
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I dont really care about the warranty, if its samsung and not t mobile.. But that isnt a def answer yet.
And ok, I guess Ill hunt the threads to see how to install the recovery. Thanks man

knipp21 said:
I dont really care about the warranty, if its samsung and not t mobile.. But that isnt a def answer yet.
And ok, I guess Ill hunt the threads to see how to install the recovery. Thanks man
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Well, even some of the T-Mobile apps now recognize if you have root and could possibly use that as proof that you voided your warranty. Tmobile/Samsung, vice versa, won't be much difference. You'd just have to find a store person that isn't knowledgeable on the subject and get a replacement. Good luck.

yea about that!
Yea I notice after I posted LOL.. a and here I was thinking I found the "holy grail" of rooting LOL!! but anyway those that Need to know just like it has been said.. this will get u rooted with out triggering Knox. this only applies to those that upgraded OTA or got their S4 already with JB 4.3 in it.. like I did after a warranty exchange... HOWEVER if u install any Custom Recovery u will trigger the counter VOIDING ur warranty FOREVER!!! LOL well maybe not but at least til someone (and who knows if someone ever will) figures Knox out. So think twice before you do anything, cause no here will take responsability for your actions...
HAPPY FLASHIN!!

Just did this to my T-Mobile SGS4. It worked just as described. The Knox counter wasn't tripped, but Custom is indicated on the Download screen (Vol Down+Home+Power).
Here's what my Download screen now says:
ODIN MODE
PRODUCT NAME: SGH-M919
CURRENT BINARY: Samsung Official
SYSTEM STATUS: Custom
KNOX KERNEL LOCK: 0x0
KNOX WARRANTY VOID: 0x0
CSB-CONFIG-LSB: 0x30
WRITE PROTECTION: Enable
eMMC BURST MODE: enabled
Thanks for the link to the other thread. :good:
Now I can use Titanium Backup, Greenify, ADB - rooted, esFile Explorer - rooted. Not needing a Custom Rom or Custom Recovery yet. And, to get it back to un-rooted, there are instructions in the other thread about that.
Rob

rlichtefeld said:
Just did this to my T-Mobile SGS4. It worked just as described. The Knox counter wasn't tripped, but Custom is indicated on the Download screen (Vol Down+Home+Power).
Here's what my Download screen now says:
ODIN MODE
PRODUCT NAME: SGH-M919
CURRENT BINARY: Samsung Official
SYSTEM STATUS: Custom
KNOX KERNEL LOCK: 0x0
KNOX WARRANTY VOID: 0x0
CSB-CONFIG-LSB: 0x30
WRITE PROTECTION: Enable
eMMC BURST MODE: enabled
Thanks for the link to the other thread. :good:
Now I can use Titanium Backup, Greenify, ADB - rooted, esFile Explorer - rooted. Not needing a Custom Rom or Custom Recovery yet. And, to get it back to un-rooted, there are instructions in the other thread about that.
Rob
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Just remember, you won't be able to make full nandroid backups (give Online Nandroid Manager a shot if you want to try).

xdapowerapps said:
Just remember, you won't be able to make full nandroid backups (give Online Nandroid Manager a shot if you want to try).
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IFAIK, until I plan to flash a custom ROM I shouldn't need a full Nandroid. I can always flash a stock ROM, and between the Google Backup/Restore and TiB, I should get almost everything back. Music/Video, etc are all on the MicroSD.
Unless I'm sadly mistaken. This is my first foray into messing with the SGS4. I was very active flashing on my HTC HD2, starting with various builds for WM6.5, and then moving on to SD builds of Android and then NativeSD with cLK, etc. I was running Tytung's KitKat until I got this phone in December. I work for a small company and the SGS4 was my Christmas Bonus. The HD2 was just too long in tooth to keep up with all the advances in Android. But, since you could flash everything - radios, bootloaders, recoveries, builds, etc., I could change out/update my version of Android almost daily.
Rob

rlichtefeld said:
IFAIK, until I plan to flash a custom ROM I shouldn't need a full Nandroid. I can always flash a stock ROM, and between the Google Backup/Restore and TiB, I should get almost everything back. Music/Video, etc are all on the MicroSD.
Unless I'm sadly mistaken. This is my first foray into messing with the SGS4. I was very active flashing on my HTC HD2, starting with various builds for WM6.5, and then moving on to SD builds of Android and then NativeSD with cLK, etc. I was running Tytung's KitKat until I got this phone in December. I work for a small company and the SGS4 was my Christmas Bonus. The HD2 was just too long in tooth to keep up with all the advances in Android. But, since you could flash everything - radios, bootloaders, recoveries, builds, etc., I could change out/update my version of Android almost daily.
Rob
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The beauty of a nandroid backup is that it takes a snapshot of your phone as it stands. Within five to eight minutes, you can restore your phone as it stood before it messed up. No re-downloading apps, changing settings, replacing system apps (i.e., installing Note 3 My Files and Gallery), etc. It saves the hassles of slow TiB/Helium restoration, especially if you have hundreds of apps. Sure, you can start fresh and manually restore things, but having it done within eight minutes without lifting a finger is extremely nice to have in your arsenal. Has come in handy several times for me since I test ROMs very frequently.
Congrats on your bonus, a very nice bonus indeed. It is a great phone. I was thinking about switching to a Note 3 or waiting for the S5 but this phone is perfect for my hands. Note 3 with an Otterbox Defender case is too big for my taste and the S5 is still a ways off. Plus, the development for this phone has far exceeded my expectations so I'm a happy camper for now.

xdapowerapps said:
No, this will only root your phone (give your apps su/superuser access). You will still need to flash a custom recovery (i.e., PhilZ, TWRP, CWM) to flash roms like a custom Vanilla ROM. If you are on 4.2.2 bootloader, you can simply flash a custom recovery and flash the ROM. If you are on 4.3, you will be on the KNOX bootloader and if you flash a custom recovery to flash the ROM, you will void your KNOX warranty. If you don't care about the warranty or has expired, there is no difference.
1) Download Vanilla Rom,
2) Flash custom recovery tar (i.e., PhilZ, TWRP, CWM).
3) Go into recovery and flash rom.
4) ????
5) ??
6) Profit.
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What method did you use to install a custom recovery? I saw this in the thread:
Important - please read
If you fail to read this, you will be taunted.
1. You can't install custom recovery and custom ROMs using this technique. See Safestrap for a way to install some custom ROMs.
2. Resetting the "Custom" and open padlock indication during boot can be worked around using the Xposed Framwork and Wanam Xposed. Get those two from the Play Store.
In Wanam, tick "Security Hacks", "Fake System Status".
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Did you use the safestrap like he suggested? I just got a replacement from t-mobile, i can't be stuck on tw lol.

root is still better then no root lol thank you for the info.

This is all great info, on rooting 4.3....
but how do you UNROOT ?

Xx_Joe_Wireless_xX said:
This is all great info, on rooting 4.3....
but how do you UNROOT ?
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Go into SuperSU, then click permanent cleanup.

You have to make sure busy box is removed as well, or system will show custom
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Is there a way to get back to the stock rom???
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KRAZYADROIDMASTER said:
Is there a way to get back to the stock rom???
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If the only mod you did was to follow the instructions in this thread, then you aren't changing the ROM, you are only giving yourself Root privileges.
To Unroot, go to the thread in the original post, and look at the second message in that thread.
Here's the link to that exact message:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48392024&postcount=2
You will be
1) removing BusyBox
2) Using SuperSU to "Full Unroot"
If you've done more than was laid out in the original message in that thread, then you will probably need to
3) Remove any Custom Recovery
4) Flash an original ROM
There are several threads discussing getting back to a Stock ROM.
Rob

Super Problem!!! Need help quick please!

Ok I think I'm really f*cked.
I had installed ProBAM 1.2.4 but because I had some serious problems with data loss and not making backups properly I decided to flash official 4.1.2 and then root+install recovery and install Phoenix ROM. After trying to install the 4.1.2 from SamMobile for my carrier(Cosmote GR) using dr.ketan's instructions for stock ROM ODIN said failed. Then my phone booted up and It said something like "Corrupt Android upgrade please use emergency install using Kies". So I installed Kies, followed the instructions and my phone finally booted up, all working! Now here's the problem. I opened settings and it said I had Android 4.3(it also prompted me to make a new update/OTA). So what I want is:
*How can I downgrade to official 4.1.2? I dont care about warranty.
"*How can I reset KNOX WARRANTY AVOID: 1" ? Or at least how can I root 4.3 without tripping KNOX so that I install custom recovery and install new ROM?
Thanks in advance, really need help quick.

You and me again
1. After official update to 4.3 via Kies, afaik no more downgrade to 4.1.2 cause you flashed knox-enabled bootloader too. (Check this!)
2. At this moment there is nothing known to reset knox-counter
3. Knox counter has tripped already, therefor I recommend http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2531965 to root.
Stay cool and now you are in the same situation as most people here: You can test as many custom roms as you like.

Androidwizzard said:
You and me again
1. After official update to 4.3 via Kies, afaik no more downgrade to 4.1.2 cause you flashed knox-enabled bootloader too. (Check this!)
2. At this moment there is nothing known to reset knox-counter
3. Knox counter has tripped already, therefor I recommend http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2531965 to root.
Stay cool and now you are in the same situation as most people here: You can test as many custom roms as you like.
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@Androidwizzard YOU ARE THE MAN!!! OMG you are SOOOOO helpful!! I love when members here are soo nice and helpful to others Anyway tomorrow I will try rooting my phone using that method(I will first for to service to replace the screen like I told you ) but now after reading so many knox threads I'm confused. Here's my question. After rooting and installing Philz recovery, can I flash MJ5 Bootloader and then Phoenix ROM? I want a KNOX free ROM Thanks again

Please check your bootloader with the app z-device, cause I think after that kies-update you should have a newer BL than MJ5 and then downgrading the BL is impossible, don't even try that (in many threads you can read about that failure!)
With the newer BL you can flash all roms 4.3+ here without even thinking about wifi and so on.

Androidwizzard said:
Please check your bootloader with the app z-device, cause I think after that kies-update you should have a newer BL than MJ5 and then downgrading the BL is impossible, don't even try that (in many threads you can read about that failure!)
With the newer BL you can flash all roms 4.3+ here without even thinking about wifi and so on.
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@Androidwizzard Heres what I got from z-device test
https://imageshack.com/i/0wn8lep and https://imageshack.com/i/ngyrblp
So after rooting I can flash any 4.3+ ROM without problems? And how to remove KNOX?

As I have told you: It is a newer BL! (Trying to downgrade will end in bootloop and errors).
And as mentioned in Post #2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2531965
for me the best and easy way to root and deknox :good: if you are sure, that knox-count is x1

Androidwizzard said:
As I have told you: It is a newer BL! (Trying to downgrade will end in bootloop and errors).
And as mentioned in Post #2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2531965
for me the best and easy way to root and deknox :good: if you are sure, that knox-count is x1
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@Androidwizzard So first I flash Philz recovery with ODIN and then boot into recovery and flash dr.ketan's aroma tool to root and deKNOX right? Do I have to DeKNOX everytime I flash a new ROM or just once?

You do it only one time, cause custom roms are deknoxed :good:
In the moment you have an official rom with knox.

Androidwizzard said:
You do it only one time, cause custom roms are deknoxed :good:
In the moment you have an official rom with knox.
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@Androidwizzard Soo(sorry for being annoying :/) Flash Philz with odin->Flash dr.ketan's tool with recovery->Root->DeKNOX->Flash Phoenix ROM

NickVXD said:
@Androidwizzard Soo(sorry for being annoying :/) Flash Philz with odin->Flash dr.ketan's tool with recovery->Root->DeKNOX->Flash Phoenix ROM
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Well not really 100% sure, you need to deknox with the tool, if you flash a custom rom immediatly, but it won't be wrong, so do it that way.

[Q] help- rooting problem

hey guys,
I need help asap! I tried using the video on this website to root my tmobile S4. I downloaded Kies, Odin 3.07, ROOT_M919UVUAMDL.zip, and CWM as recovery-clockwork-touch-6.0.3.2-jfltetmo.tar, I did NOT install triangle away( i forgot). I went through the steps and passed in Odin. then, when I pulled the battery and booted in CWM i couldnt find the file so i went to the store to buy a sdcard. when I came home i re-ran through Odin and found the root zip on the external sdcard. I successfully installed the root zip and clicked reboot. my problem arose when it showed a "KERNEL IS NOT SEANDROID ENFORCING" in red, and a "SET WARANTY BIT: KERNEL" in yellow. it seems to be frozen in this screen and i can only use the CWM and Download mode. I have tried re-using Odin .
Please help!!

That's an old root method. You can either
1) flash a custom ROM and go about your business
2) Odin back to stock firmware and root with cf-auto root or towelroot
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serio22 said:
That's an old root method. You can either
1) flash a custom ROM and go about your business
2) Odin back to stock firmware and root with cf-auto root or towelroot
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I'm sorry, I'm a Noob. but 1) where can I get a custom ROM and how do i apply it? 2) can you elaborate on your #2?

scott560 said:
I'm sorry, I'm a Noob. but 1) where can I get a custom ROM and how do i apply it? 2) can you elaborate on your #2?
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1) You can find tons of Custom ROMs here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-tmobile/development
You usually flash them to your phone via a Custom Recovery such as CWM or TWRP. Or, is some cases you can use ODIN. Read, Read, Read, Read before your flash. It is very easy to do, but you need to understand what you are doing. All Custom ROMs come pre-rooted.
2) You can download a stock ROM from here:
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/
Or, you can use Kies to download and install the most recent firmware for your phone.
TowelRoot is a new option for rooting stock ROMs that are version 4.4.2 (KitKat). This method of rooting doesn't trip the Knox flag.
Here's a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGwMs8JPBhE
Rob

rlichtefeld said:
1) You can find tons of Custom ROMs here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-tmobile/development
You flash them to your phone via ODIN. Read, Read, Read, Read before your flash. It is very easy to do, but you need to understand what you are doing. All Custom ROMs come pre-rooted.
2) You can download a stock ROM from here:
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/
Or, you can use Kies to download and install the most recent firmware for your phone.
TowelRoot is a new option for rooting stock ROMs that are version 4.4.2 (KitKat). This method of rooting doesn't trip the Knox flag.
Here's a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGwMs8JPBhE
Rob
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Thanks for replying however, you do not flash custom ROMs via Odin, you need a custom recovery like twrp or cwm.. Stock firmware you do flash via Odin.. And their Knox flag is already tripped, wouldn't matter

serio22 said:
Thanks for replying however, you do not flash custom ROMs via Odin, you need a custom recovery like twrp or cwm.. Stock firmware you do flash via Odin.. And their Knox flag is already tripped, wouldn't matter
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Thanks for correcting me that most of the time you flash Custom ROMs via a Custom Recovery on the S4.
But, if I'm not mistaken you can flash Custom ROMs via ODIN as long as in the right format and you select the correct partition.
However, most of my Custom ROM history is with a HTC device, so I may be mistaken.

rlichtefeld said:
Thanks for correcting me that most of the time you flash Custom ROMs via a Custom Recovery on the S4.
But, if I'm not mistaken you can flash Custom ROMs via ODIN as long as in the right format and you select the correct partition.
However, most of my Custom ROM history is with a HTC device, so I may be mistaken.
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It is possible but 99% of custom ROMs are not made to be flashed with Odin, in the past two years I've only seen about 1. And it is also inconvenient