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wifi power saving policy

I want my desire's wifi goes to sleep when i lock the screen; therefore i set the option to "after 15 minutes". However, when i woke up several times during last night >.< to find that every time when i turn the screen on, i could see the wifi was still on. what should i do? thanks

WiFi
Try installing Juice Defender from the Market. Works for me.

have the wifi and 3g on off buttons as widgets on one of the home screens, and turn them off easily when not needed, like sleeping, takes a few seconds to reconnect, saves alot of battery for me

Try installing Juice Defender from the Market. Works for me.
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thanks for the alternative. I wish the generic option can work as it is supposed to
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have the wifi and 3g on off buttons as widgets on one of the home screens, and turn them off easily when not needed, like sleeping, takes a few seconds to reconnect, saves alot of battery for me
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thank you for this. just curious, if we have to use widget to control the connection, what is the policy designed for? do I misunderstand the purpose of that or it IS not functioning rightly?
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the policys are for automated controls, so its meant to turn off after 15 mins or whatever, i keep it as a widget so i can turn them on and off manually as i generally have the wifi or 3g on all the time for gtalk etc
i turn the 3g off when going under ground, sleeping or in a meeting where i wnt be needed it. its easier to do manually then wait for the automated to kick in in my oppinion

TurkzZ said:
the policys are for automated controls, so its meant to turn off after 15 mins or whatever, i keep it as a widget so i can turn them on and off manually as i generally have the wifi or 3g on all the time for gtalk etc
i turn the 3g off when going under ground, sleeping or in a meeting where i wnt be needed it. its easier to do manually then wait for the automated to kick in in my oppinion
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i do want it automatically turn off the wifi for me. i think my problem is that even i set it to "after 15 mins", the wifi is still on even after 20 or 30 mins after i turn off the screen.

Usually it will stay off until you awaken the screen (phone) by which time it will try to re-enable itself for your convenience.
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i tried the setting in Nexus as well. In Nexus, it is not "after 15 mins", but "when screen turns off". unfortunately, even you check the wifi status after you turn off the screen 10 mins later, the wifi is still on.. totally no idea how that is supposed to work..

How are you checking whether the WiFi is on? By waking it up again, or seeing whether it is connected to your router?

TurkzZ said:
have the wifi and 3g on off buttons as widgets on one of the home screens, and turn them off easily when not needed, like sleeping, takes a few seconds to reconnect, saves alot of battery for me
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Yes that works for me to, just a simple quick press on or off and no worries about it using battery life when you dont want it to.

Tasker - Profiles

Hey everyone
Does anyone here use tasker or have any recommended profiles to help save battery life?
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Try Juice Defender with 3g control enabled.
I have mine set to enable every 30mins with good results..
With LOTS of syncing enabled, i get roughly 1% an hour decrease whilst on standby!! Unplugged at 1am on 89% when i went to bed, at 9am when i got up it was at 81%...
Hope this helps!
Dickie

Check WIKI on Tasker site,data profiles created by "brandall" from XDA
Tasker data profiles are better than Juice Defender

JuiceDefender has some annoying bugs in it at the moment (some like issues it has with lockscreen/display timeout) have been around for 4months+ and they still haven't sorted them out) so I've switched to Green Power which seems to do the job very well. Simple and no fuss.

Hi. Anyone here good at creating profiles?
I would like some help. If i want a profile that:
IF screen has been locked for 1 minute, i want WiFi to shut down.
And when i unlock the phone again, i want it to turn on.
But - i don't just want a "toggle wifi by hitting powerbutton"-function,
I only want this to apply if i had wifi on in the first place.
The reason i want this profile is:
If i forget to charge the phone at night, and have wifi going, i have 20% less battery when i wake up. Or if im at a friends house, connected to a wifi... well, same here. If it just lays in my pocket connected to X, i want it to shut down when screen is off. Saves alot of juice.

mrBira said:
Hi. Anyone here good at creating profiles?
I would like some help. If i want a profile that:
IF screen has been locked for 1 minute, i want WiFi to shut down.
And when i unlock the phone again, i want it to turn on.
But - i don't just want a "toggle wifi by hitting powerbutton"-function,
I only want this to apply if i had wifi on in the first place.
The reason i want this profile is:
If i forget to charge the phone at night, and have wifi going, i have 20% less battery when i wake up. Or if im at a friends house, connected to a wifi... well, same here. If it just lays in my pocket connected to X, i want it to shut down when screen is off. Saves alot of juice.
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why dont you use tasker for that,
you can do almost anything with that app.
Creating profiles in tasker isn't a huge difficult task, its easy, Just use trial n error to see if it works.

rudolf895 said:
why dont you use tasker for that,
you can do almost anything with that app.
Creating profiles in tasker isn't a huge difficult task, its easy, Just use trial n error to see if it works.
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That's what i'm using, and I'm asking for help to create that profile =)

mrBira said:
Hi. Anyone here good at creating profiles?
I would like some help. If i want a profile that:
IF screen has been locked for 1 minute, i want WiFi to shut down.
And when i unlock the phone again, i want it to turn on.
But - i don't just want a "toggle wifi by hitting powerbutton"-function,
I only want this to apply if i had wifi on in the first place.
The reason i want this profile is:
If i forget to charge the phone at night, and have wifi going, i have 20% less battery when i wake up. Or if im at a friends house, connected to a wifi... well, same here. If it just lays in my pocket connected to X, i want it to shut down when screen is off. Saves alot of juice.
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Why don't just use the stock android checkbox in settings that's there for that? o_ô
Go to settings/network and wifi/wifi settings/hit the menu button and tap advanced parameters/wifi sleep politic/check "when screen goes off".
It does exactly what you described...

reggaemanu said:
Why don't just use the stock android checkbox in settings that's there for that? o_ô
Go to settings/network and wifi/wifi settings/hit the menu button and tap advanced parameters/wifi sleep politic/check "when screen goes off".
It does exactly what you described...
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Okay, i'll try to find a way on my own..
The reason i don't use androids built-in thing for that is because it drains battery for some strange reason.
One of maaaany sources: Here

mrBira said:
Okay, i'll try to find a way on my own..
The reason i don't use androids built-in thing for that is because it drains battery for some strange reason.
One of maaaany sources: Here
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Well mine is working fine, no draining at all (wifi on 24h24 with this option checked and my phone drain only 1% every 5 or 6h if the screen is off). The thing is that it shut off the wifi only if no app needs it, so my bet is that those who have a battery drain just have some apps that don't let the phone going in deep sleep.

mrBira said:
Hi. Anyone here good at creating profiles?
I would like some help. If i want a profile that:
IF screen has been locked for 1 minute, i want WiFi to shut down.
And when i unlock the phone again, i want it to turn on.
But - i don't just want a "toggle wifi by hitting powerbutton"-function,
I only want this to apply if i had wifi on in the first place.
The reason i want this profile is:
If i forget to charge the phone at night, and have wifi going, i have 20% less battery when i wake up. Or if im at a friends house, connected to a wifi... well, same here. If it just lays in my pocket connected to X, i want it to shut down when screen is off. Saves alot of juice.
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Hi, if you try LLAMA app instead I could talk you through it (as your not getting an answer you want).
As far as I can tell, LLAMA can do everything that tasker and locale can do but its free. It's also very good on your battery and can use cell towers instead of gps for location.
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Not sure if I'm in the right place, new to smartphones. Got myself a Galaxy S2 and rooted it. Main point,
I'm using Tasker and I'm trying to have it set so that it's in Airplane Mode when I have an Alarm set so I get no calls/texts during my slumber.
So far, best thing I've done is the phone goes to Airplane Mode between 00:00 and 0600 everyday as well as when light levels are between 0 and 28 - not sure if the light levels are like, set too low.
So far I love Tasker but very little support online and Tasker Wiki doesn't really help. Trying my best with the trial and error method.
Thanks

mrBira said:
That's what i'm using, and I'm asking for help to create that profile =)
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I will make u one and upload it when i get home (in about an hour).
Edit: Profile uploaded
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Grevane said:
JuiceDefender has some annoying bugs in it at the moment (some like issues it has with lockscreen/display timeout) have been around for 4months+ and they still haven't sorted them out) so I've switched to Green Power which seems to do the job very well. Simple and no fuss.
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Good shout on Green Power. I've had some issues with Juice Defender Ultimate lately and Green Power seems to do more or less the same without the issues.
£1.50 well spent - cheers for the tip

Guitarfreak26 said:
Hey everyone
Does anyone here use tasker or have any recommended profiles to help save battery life?
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hi,
i'm using "setting profiles".
in the market you have a free and a payment app.
the developers answer the emails at decent speed...

[Q] What's best? Wifi Off when screen is off or Wifi on all of the time?

To start off with; i get good battery life; right now I'm at 1 day 3 hours and I have 39% left.
I was wondering however, does setting the Wifi to go off when the screen is off help significantly on the battery? And if so...is there some other negative issue that I'm not aware of if I set it this way?

I'm pretty sure any sort of data connection will use more of your battery than WiFi will. So if you're always around a strong WiFi connection you probably should leave it on at all times.

MdX MaxX said:
I'm pretty sure any sort of data connection will use more of your battery than WiFi will. So if you're always around a strong WiFi connection you probably should leave it on at all times.
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That's one of the things that i was wondering about....thanks.

rpavich said:
To start off with; i get good battery life; right now I'm at 1 day 3 hours and I have 39% left.
I was wondering however, does setting the Wifi to go off when the screen is off help significantly on the battery? And if so...is there some other negative issue that I'm not aware of if I set it this way?
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how the hell are you getting 1 day 3 hours!?!?!??!?! what are your settings? teeeeeell meeeeeeeee!
thanks.

slicetwo said:
how the hell are you getting 1 day 3 hours!?!?!??!?! what are your settings? teeeeeell meeeeeeeee!
thanks.
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Oh that is funny.
I just do everything everyone else does:
1.) Screen off when not in use
2.) Screen brightness down as much as possible.
3.) Dark theme.
4.) Tasker profiles to turn off wifi when not near my house or work.
5.) Tasker profile to turn off GPS when not actively using certain apps.
6.) Tasker profile to turn off BT when not connected.
I also am probably a light user...the only thing that I do beyond normal phone use is to watch Netflix a slight bit a day and stream Spotify a bit.
I also don't play games except Words with friends.
No FB no locations, no nothing like that.

Wifi off and data off would be most helping when screen off
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[Q] Screen turning on my itself

Hi forum,
My phones screen turns itself on often for no reason. I have noticed that it will turn on when it connects to my home or work WiFi when its in range but the screen stays on and doesn't time out after 30 seconds as set in the display settings, which can be frustrating because my phone can be on in my pocket for a few hrs wasting my battery.
My phone is running Android 4.1.2 stock Samsung rom not rooted.
Cheers

Do you use any app to manage your WiFi network or any other connection like Juide Defender?

Memphis_ said:
Do you use any app to manage your WiFi network or any other connection like Juide Defender?
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Hey Memphis_
Yes i do, I have Juice Defender. This issue was still happening before I installed it tho

You don't have any apps installed which might be set to turn on the screen with a shake, right?

PhilipTD said:
You don't have any apps installed which might be set to turn on the screen with a shake, right?
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Hi PhilipTD,
No I don't have any apps installed like that. I will stop using juice defender over the next few days to see if that fixes the issue.
Cheers

tips how to make battery better?

thanks

1. Turn off ambient mode
2. Set brightness to 1
3. Limit screen on time by disabling notifications on apps you don't really need to view from the watch, and always covering the display to turn off manually when you are done looking at it.

tcollum said:
1. Turn off ambient mode
2. Set brightness to 1
3. Limit screen on time by disabling notifications on apps you don't really need to view from the watch, and always covering the display to turn off manually when you are done looking at it.
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thanks!

Also, if you leave it in its charger, and don't use it, it's battery will stay at 100%.

Use a watch face that doesn't have a second hand.
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1. Don't use a watch face that didn't come from motorola pre installed. Wait for google to open it up to developers. Right now the way the watch faces work is through apps and that uses more battery.
2. Ambient off
3. Turn off any crazy notifications you get on your phone that you dont care about like twitter

Alcoholic said:
1. Don't use a watch face that didn't come from motorola pre installed. Wait for google to open it up to developers. Right now the way the watch faces work is through apps and that uses more battery.
2. Ambient off
3. Turn off any crazy notifications you get on your phone that you dont care about like twitter
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Actually getting a 3rd party watch face that doesn't have a second hand or animation helps battery life a lot.
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ChrisNee1988 said:
Actually getting a 3rd party watch face that doesn't have a second hand or animation helps battery life a lot.
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I concur! Installed custom watch with no "seconds hand", ambient mode is ON, 8am to 10pm drains to 30-35%! Standard Minimal watch face with the same options = 10% at the end of day.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-360/general/moto-360-2-day-battery-test-graphs-t2880565/page2
Post #13

Has anyone tried Wear Battery Saver app?
http://tinyurl.com/lkua8dk

Alcoholic said:
1. Don't use a watch face that didn't come from motorola pre installed. Wait for google to open it up to developers. Right now the way the watch faces work is through apps and that uses more battery.
2. Ambient off
3. Turn off any crazy notifications you get on your phone that you dont care about like twitter
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Actually the notification I care more about it is Twitter.?

kandelai said:
Has anyone tried Wear Battery Saver app?
http://tinyurl.com/lkua8dk
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haven't tried it...doesnt seem too convincing to me.
Try downloading mini wear launcher. If you swipe left to right twice you can dim the screen to super dim. I use it when i'm in the office so i dont have a super bright screen for no reason.

The only thing that's made a noticeable difference for me has been turning off ambient mode. For the last week I've been wearing the watch for about 17 hours / day. At the end of the day I usually have 25 - 40% left in the tank. Today I decided to try it with ambient mode on. I'm 10 hours in and I'm already at 38%. So it makes a big difference to me. That's still not bad since I'm averaging 6% / hour so I could potentially make it last my normal 17 hours. But it's a bit too close.
Also, I know I can drop it on the charger for 10 minutes and I'll pick up another 10 - 15% or 2 hours of ambient or 3 - 4 of non-ambient time.

memekmek said:
haven't tried it...doesnt seem too convincing to me.
Try downloading mini wear launcher. If you swipe left to right twice you can dim the screen to super dim. I use it when i'm in the office so i dont have a super bright screen for no reason.
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I've tried that super dim mode. It seems to be pretty good indoors, but I can't see ANYTHING outside. I wish the auto-brightness was able to use it though so I don't have to manually switch it.

With ambient off, how accurate the watch screen will wake up when you bring your wrist up see the screen?

Stop using your watch like a phone

Can you tell us what watchface from 3rd party you use that doesn't have second end
Thx.

hardtheory said:
Can you tell us what watchface from 3rd party you use that doesn't have second end
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If you are using facer, here are a few hundred to choose from: http://facerepo.com/app/

PsychDrummer said:
I've tried that super dim mode. It seems to be pretty good indoors, but I can't see ANYTHING outside. I wish the auto-brightness was able to use it though so I don't have to manually switch it.
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Autobrightness does use the super dim mode for me. If I'm indoors and there's not a lot of lighting changing the brightness to 1 will usually make my screen brighter.

Even if you use a face with a second hand in facer, just delete the second hand layer and all is good