WARNING!!! Fake vs Real Note 4 - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4

Warning!! I just came across this at work when my co-worker asked me to set up his phone. I realized something was wrong when I saw the screen and size of this note 4. I decided to show it off for those who is considering picking up one from ebay or Craigslist. See the comparison from a real note 4 and see for yourself. There's no real difference w/ the software but the hardware might be a concern since the battery(charger) is not Original it might blow-up or melt. The fake one is really flaky and has weird random vibration and I would not recommend using it at ALL!!

Sm-910f. Looks like a rooted international version because it says custom.

That's correct.

DARKCHYLDX101 said:
Sm-910f. Looks like a rooted international version because it says custom.
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This. It's not fake.

Wow! He's a lot better off than we are cause at least he has root.

pr0cl1v1ty said:
This. It's not fake.
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Sm-910f. Looks like a rooted international version because it says custom.
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It is definitely fake. Look at the lock screen. The one on the left says "ergency calls only" instead of "emergency calls only" like a real Note 4. Also, if you look at the batteries the one on the left says it is 11.something watt hours instead of 12.41 like a real Note 4. The "SM-910F" you see in the about phone screenshot is easily faked by editing the build.prop. I could make my SM-N910T say "SM-910TURD" if I wanted to..... The MOLY baseband is another dead giveaway.
It's nothing more than a very good clone

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It is definitely fake. Look at the lock screen. The one on the left says "ergency calls only" instead of "emergency calls only" like a real Note 4. Also, if you look at the batteries the one on the left says it is 11.something watt hours instead of 12.41 like a real Note 4. The "SM-910F" you see in the about phone screenshot is easily faked by editing the build.prop. I could make my SM-N910T say "SM-910TURD" if I wanted to..... The MOLY baseband is another dead giveaway.
It's nothing more than a very good clone
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+1 the 910f wouldn't have a different screw pattern or the spen wouldn't be closer to the edge.

The screen is another giveaway. Looks like its using an LCD instead of an Amoled. Definitely fake.

pr0cl1v1ty said:
This. It's not fake.
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It's a fake...the over spray on the paint job is a hack of a job for a phone. Camera is offset plus the rear speaker look like a sticker. It's a custom rom of the international version but the phone itself it's a knock off. Also, it started to heat up bad when I tried to charge it.
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Wow! He's a lot better off than we are cause at least he has root.
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If it work....the Recovery mode is in Chinese and I don't know if your can odin it since it's not Samsung official. Someone on the other thread said MTK but I don't know and wouldn't want to try since it's not my phone
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It is definitely fake. Look at the lock screen. The one on the left says "ergency calls only" instead of "emergency calls only" like a real Note 4. Also, if you look at the batteries the one on the left says it is 11.something watt hours instead of 12.41 like a real Note 4. The "SM-910F" you see in the about phone screenshot is easily faked by editing the build.prop. I could make my SM-N910T say "SM-910TURD" if I wanted to..... The MOLY baseband is another dead giveaway.
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It's nothing more than a very good clone
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droe411 said:
+1 the 910f wouldn't have a different screw pattern or the spen wouldn't be closer to the edge.
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The screen is another giveaway. Looks like its using an LCD instead of an Amoled. Definitely fake.
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+1, the screen on the fake is of a cheap quality...I tapped on the screen and heard a hallow sound compared to the real note 4. It's not thick so one drop is probably done. Also, you can clearly see the LCD screen grid on the fake like those of a cheap IPS tablet or phone.

Interesting. Sorry your friend purchased that.

How to Spot Fake Galaxy Note 4!
http://highonandroid.com/android-smartphone-news/how-to-spot-fake-galaxy-note-4/

When I was shopping for my note 4...I nearly got a fake as well....canceled my order and found a legit one for same price on swappa.
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We see a few of these occasionally, but we are really good at catching them. This is a fake white one for your observation. One thing about them is the IMEI usually registers as an unidentified Nokia phone and the model number is one that doesn't exist from Samsung. Another thing to note: the obvious bezel alignment and other aesthetic features are only slightly different. This one is a bit more obvious.
One last thing I noticed was that the cloned Note 4's always seem to have a piece of blue clear plastic over the SIM slot or the MicroSD card slot.

I have previously received a fake SM-910F that looked and felt EXACTLY like the real thing. It had me fooled for a whole day of usage before I realized it secretly having a MediaTek CPU, having minor OS glitches every now and then, and none of Samsung's ROM tool recognized the phone.
Here are some pictures
S-Pen and fake Touchwiz
Front view looks EXACTLY like the real Note 4, because it's actually using the Note 4's digitizer:
Top of the screen:
Note that the home button is completely matte while it should be a bit glossy:
Back the phone, again looking exactly like the real deal (and probably made with real parts)
Top of the phone:
Side of the phone:
Fake IMEI label:
Unknown IMEI/Serial
Some weird Chinese recovery menu instead of Samsung's Download Mode
It's absolutely scary on how well the Chinese are able to counterfeit these days.

The fake one looks like the Mlais M4 Note Handset.

New update....the phone overheated and melt the battery. Like I expected it would. I warned my co-worker since he was going to give it to his daughter as a game/movie phone. Glad he gave it to me to check. If he didn't I can't imagine how bad it would have been!

Wow that's crazy.
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Looks exactly like the fake alpha i bought last year. Quality was crap...it was a MK proc, just garbage...no LTE either. Funny though, even the ATT guy didnt pick up on it being fake.

To know which are real or not.
You can check if the KNOX are there:
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1. Download mode REAL with knox & here is a Guide.
2. Samsung info app (General label/Tools). IF knox are not found =FAKE.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo

u1988 said:
To know which are real or not.
You can check if the KNOX are there:
2. Samsung info app (General label/Tools). IF knox are not found =FAKE.
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This is a quick and easy test and the first thing I did after I looked at the battery bay sticker. If it doesn't have Knox, it's fake.

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Something Smells Fishy

Does this seem like a simple mistake from when my phone was produced from the factory in China or Korea, where ever our phones where made. Or does it sound like an employee from T Mobile did, for whatever reason.
So I purchased my Note 2 from T Mobile last Friday. While loving the phone for the first couple days. I finnaly pulled my S pen out for the second or third time. And ever since I put it back inin, I noticed a simple tap on the back of phone. The S pen would just fall out. One time it even went in sideways, so turned 90 degrees then it should be. And had a tough time getting out.
When getting the box ready to exchange for new at T mobile. I looked at the s pen on the box, then looked at mine. And its not even the same S pen. I'm guessing the one I had was from the Note 1.
I just found this really odd. And there's no way mine got swapped with one from note 1, cause I don't even no anyone who owns the first note. Actually I've never even seen one. And no one I no has the note 2 either. And I haven't had anyway touch or hold my phone. Especially with all these posts of everyone cracking there screen lol.
So I don't no what to think about this. Just think its really weired. Has this happen to anyone else?
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Does this seem like a simple mistake from when my phone was produced from the factory in China or Korea, where ever our phones where made. Or does it sound like an employee from T Mobile did, for whatever reason.
So I purchased my Note 2 from T Mobile last Friday. While loving the phone for the first couple days. I finnaly pulled my S pen out for the second or third time. And ever since I put it back inin, I noticed a simple tap on the back of phone. The S pen would just fall out. One time it even went in sideways, so turned 90 degrees then it should be. And had a tough time getting out.
When getting the box ready to exchange for new at T mobile. I looked at the s pen on the box, then looked at mine. And its not even the same S pen. I'm guessing the one I had was from the Note 1.
I just found this really odd. And there's no way mine got swapped with one from note 1, cause I don't even no anyone who owns the first note. Actually I've never even seen one. And no one I no has the note 2 either. And I haven't had anyway touch or hold my phone. Especially with all these posts of everyone cracking there screen lol.
So I don't no what to think about this. Just think its really weired. Has this happen to anyone else?
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What possible reason could you think a tmobile employee or switched your spen....
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You probably have a defective s pen port or spen.
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The Note 1's S-pen is round. Unlike the N2's pen which has a 'flat' side to it.
Pics would help a lot here OP. Because right now you sound like a crazy person. Just take a pic of the pen. Upload to imgur or upload it on here.
This post title is what's fishy, misleading, and a hoax. Because I "no" you didn't wait days to treat your pen. Some post are so counter productive and add nothing to the forums. I mean really a bit 1 pen lol if any part of this is true. You inserted by force the s pen incorrectly and now you say depraved indifference
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This post title is what's fishy, misleading, and a hoax. Because I "no" you didn't wait days to treat your pen. Some post are so counter productive and add nothing to the forums. I mean really a bit 1 pen lol if any part of this is true. You inserted by force the s pen incorrectly and now you say depraved indifference
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Actually I did wait days before using the s pen. I didn't buy the note for that. I bought it for the multi screen. Which is why I rooted day 1 and after playing with all the settings I got to the s pen last.
The only reason I new it was the wrong s pen. Is because the logo was on the side but on the box its not.
I already exchanged for a new one. But my new s pen can only be inserted one way. The other one could twist around while 3/4 in
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Because I "no" you didn't wait days...
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sorry, lol.
I didn't pull my spen out until the 4th day of owning the Note 2.
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Markor13 said:
I didn't pull my spen out until the 4th day of owning the Note 2.
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I pulled it out on the next day I believe... Almost 100% sure it wasn't the first day...
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Markor13 said:
I didn't pull my spen out until the 4th day of owning the Note 2.
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No, I was kidding.. I didn't get mine out for a couple of days as well.
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I took mine out the first day but havent used it all since...
trevor7428 said:
The only reason I new it was the wrong s pen. Is because the logo was on the side but on the box its not.
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Umm... like this? It's a note II S pen, without a doubt.
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Umm... like this? It's a note II S pen, without a doubt.
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that actualy reminds me of what it looked ed like my i dont think the end was as shiny as yours. or might seem that was cause of the picture, idk. also i remember the samsung logo was on the side of the s pen. cant tell if urs is too.
but did samsung make different models of the s pen for the note 2. cause the one i have now, doesnt look like urs from the pixture.
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This post title is what's fishy, misleading, and a hoax. Because I "no" you didn't wait days to treat your pen.
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I was trying so hard to let it go lol
Always pull your spen out early!
trevor7428 said:
that actualy reminds me of what it looked ed like my i dont think the end was as shiny as yours. or might seem that was cause of the picture, idk. also i remember the samsung logo was on the side of the s pen. cant tell if urs is too.
but did samsung make different models of the s pen for the note 2. cause the one i have now, doesnt look like urs from the pixture.
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I have no idea whether or not Samsung makes two different models of the s-pen. It seems unlikely that they would, given that the phone has only been out since the last of September/first of October. The only logical reason that I can think of for them to redesign something that they'd already gone to market with would be if there were something functionally wrong with the original device. Nowhere online do I see any indication that they've made such a change. I got my GN2 on October 29th, which would be several weeks before your stated purchase date (according to your initial post, you purchased yours on "last Friday" and that post is dated November 30, so that would put your purchase date on November 23), and my pen design matches those in all of the ads and all of the photos I've been able to locate online (for a few examples, look here). However, with that said, I suppose that it is possible that Samsung has redesigned the s-pen and is now including a different pen with their phones.
As an aside, you might want to begin proofreading your posts for spelling, punctuation, and grammatical errors before posting. Well written messages lend credence to your posts, whereas poorly written messages can call the veracity of your message into question.
Good luck with your new GN2 and s-pen. It's a great device and I'm enjoying mine more and more as time goes by and as I learn more about it. As a matter of fact, I ran across an article this morning that taught me even more about this great phone. It's a couple of months old, but there is still meat there for the taking. Here's the link if you're interested: 50 Samsung Galaxy Note 2 Tips and Tricks
Doubt they changed it. Got a replacement one yesterday and it had the same s pen.
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bFORTIFIED said:
Always pull your spen out early!
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LOL. I use the S Pullout method as well. Not as effective, but feels soo much better.
dmathis said:
I have no idea whether or not Samsung makes two different models of the s-pen. It seems unlikely that they would, given that the phone has only been out since the last of September/first of October. The only logical reason that I can think of for them to redesign something that they'd already gone to market with would be if there were something functionally wrong with the original device. Nowhere online do I see any indication that they've made such a change. I got my GN2 on October 29th, which would be several weeks before your stated purchase date (according to your initial post, you purchased yours on "last Friday" and that post is dated November 30, so that would put your purchase date on November 23), and my pen design matches those in all of the ads and all of the photos I've been able to locate online (for a few examples, look here). However, with that said, I suppose that it is possible that Samsung has redesigned the s-pen and is now including a different pen with their phones.
As an aside, you might want to begin proofreading your posts for spelling, punctuation, and grammatical errors before posting. Well written messages lend credence to your posts, whereas poorly written messages can call the veracity of your message into question.
Good luck with your new GN2 and s-pen. It's a great device and I'm enjoying mine more and more as time goes by and as I learn more about it. As a matter of fact, I ran across an article this morning that taught me even more about this great phone. It's a couple of months old, but there is still meat there for the taking. Here's the link if you're interested: 50 Samsung Galaxy Note 2 Tips and Tricks
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I never said they came out with a new s pen for note II. I just posted when I bought my note II, it came with the first notes s pen. Anyways I exchanged it awhile ago. All is fine now. My s pen fits perfectly in now. And for sure is not the same s pen then I had before.
But thanks for the link will check it out now

Is my T-Mobile Note 2 refurbished? Please let me know what you think. Thank you.

I received my Note 2 a few days ago. I found no screen defects, although my volume button is loose (and was confirmed normal as per other XDA member's feedback). I have a tiny black marker above the earpiece on the bezel (also confirmed by another fellow XDA member), and I know it sounds like I have OCD, but $700 dollars is not little. Also, I should mention, I purchased my device without contract from T-Mobile on their website, and the retail box (pristine clean condition) came in a bubble wrapped bag instead of an actual box I was expecting. Lastly, while un-boxing, I noticed I didn't find any plastic clear tape to remove on the sides of the bezel like I did in the previous Note (International version). My Note 2 only came with the T-Mobile Logo on front and Plastic on the back cover. Today, I tried registering the product on Samsung's website, and came across the message that my phone's Manufacture Date is 11/30/1993.
Is whatever I described above something to be concerned about? Or am I just being too anal. What about the warranty? Is my device refurbished? Should I have purchased at a retail store instead? My phone apparently came from Kentucky (Origin on UPS Scan shows Louisville, Kentucky) with a pre-paid return label to Forth Worth, Texas.
Relax..... That's not a refurbished device. You can check under the battery and it will be listed as a refurb.
I had 3 Note 2's with Sprint before moving here. They all came the same way. There's no tape on the sides of the phone. Only the screen and and back cover are protected by plastic.
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I received my Note 2 a few days ago. I found no screen defects, although my volume button is loose (and was confirmed normal as per other XDA member's feedback). I have a tiny black marker above the earpiece on the bezel (also confirmed by another fellow XDA member), and I know it sounds like I have OCD, but $700 dollars is not little. Also, I should mention, I purchased my device without contract from T-Mobile on their website, and the retail box (pristine clean condition) came in a bubble wrapped bag instead of an actual box I was expecting. Lastly, while un-boxing, I noticed I didn't find any plastic clear tape to remove on the sides of the bezel like I did in the previous Note (International version). My Note 2 only came with the T-Mobile Logo on front and Plastic on the back cover. Today, I tried registering the product on Samsung's website, and came across the message that my phone's Manufacture Date is 11/30/1993.
Is whatever I described above something to be concerned about? Or am I just being too anal. What about the warranty? Is my device refurbished? Should I have purchased at a retail store instead? My phone apparently came from Kentucky (Origin on UPS Scan shows Louisville, Kentucky) with a pre-paid return label to Forth Worth, Texas.
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I have purchased 2 notes from tmobile and they have both come in a padded mailer vs. an actual box. The inside boxes were sealed though, I had to slice through seals to open the box. I recall on the international version the back plastic actually wraps around a little to cover the sides, I think it was the same with the tmobile version as well. You can't rule it out entirely but it seems unlikely you got a refurb, in my opinion.
Thanks for the replies :good:, what about the power / volume button, little black mark, and most importantly, the manufacture date. Have any of you tried registering your devices yet? Please let me know. Thanks again.
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Thanks for the replies :good:, what about the power / volume button, little black mark, and most importantly, the manufacture date. Have any of you tried registering your devices yet? Please let me know. Thanks again.
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Do you even have to ask? Consider the source, the world we live in for a moment. The fact is some devices are sold "New" even if they technically need be listed as refurb. If you feel so confused, instead of asking internet strangers about your own device, I'd return it online and buy one in store if it makes you feel any better. But at the end of the day it's just a cell phone
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I'm not feeling confused; its really just the manufacturer date I am more concerned about. It might be just a cell phone to you, but $700 dollars invested into a machine like this is not little. The world we live in now requires most of us to think twice before we buy. Coming to the Note 2, Every Note 2 sold has minute issues like I stated in my first post. I might be just being OCD, lol. Also, It's a Samsung thing--QC at its finest.
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Do you even have to ask? Consider the source, the world we live in for a moment. The fact is some devices are sold "New" even if they technically need be listed as refurb. If you feel so confused, instead of asking internet strangers about your own device, I'd return it online and buy one in store if it makes you feel any better. But at the end of the day it's just a cell phone
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I'm not feeling confused; its really just the manufacturer date I am more concerned about. It might be just a cell phone to you, but $700 dollars invested into a machine like this is not little. The world we live in now requires most of us to think twice before we buy. Coming to the Note 2, Every Note 2 sold has minute issues like I stated in my first post. I might be just being OCD, lol. Also, It's a Samsung thing--QC at its finest.
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Hey I'm I'm your side I'm just saying more action less debate about your money...if I purchase something online and I have doubts I don't need to consult with strangers on what to do. As far as the device heck yeah return it and buy in store if it tickles your fancy, our see a doctor about your ocd. In regards to the manufacturer date..this is not the first nor last gadget to have a funky date some are more accurate others are internal...not a big deal.....this technology clearly didn't even exist back then, uncommon sense tells you it's just a Samsung filler, just a date they used. Even if the date was this year..who cares lol enjoy your phone
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Watched a couple of unboxing videos on the T-Mobile version, there was plastic tape on the sides as well. I'm just guessing it varies by batch. Lol.
Anyway, too much plastic. I think thats the biggest flop of Samsung; Plastic
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I have purchased 2 notes from tmobile and they have both come in a padded mailer vs. an actual box. The inside boxes were sealed though, I had to slice through seals to open the box. I recall on the international version the back plastic actually wraps around a little to cover the sides, I think it was the same with the tmobile version as well. You can't rule it out entirely but it seems unlikely you got a refurb, in my opinion.
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I'll just contact Samsung, and confirm some details. It would be silly to return without knowing that everything described is normal on Samsung's part, lol.
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Hey I'm I'm your side I'm just saying more action less debate about your money...if I purchase something online and I have doubts I don't need to consult with strangers on what to do. As far as the device heck yeah return it and buy in store if it tickles your fancy, our see a doctor about your ocd. In regards to the manufacturer date..this is not the first nor last gadget to have a funky date some are more accurate others are internal...not a big deal.....this technology clearly didn't even exist back then, uncommon sense tells you it's just a Samsung filler, just a date they used. Even if the date was this year..who cares lol enjoy your phone
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My phone was manufactured last month, it was asking for IMEI not serial
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My phone was manufactured last month, it was asking for IMEI not serial
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How you could entertain the idea that the phone was manufactured on 11/30/1993 in beyond me.
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How you could entertain the idea that the phone was manufactured on 11/30/1993 in beyond me.
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:victory: I don't think OP actually thought the device was manu in 93 xD Probably just concerned it doesnt say 2011 or 12 like it should . lol
OP MADE IN CHINA is all you have to see to answer your questions about loose this or that . This isn't the first thread I've seen about loose buttons on this device. . China makes junk , period. We're kinda lucky as many of these devices function flawlessly from the factory. My and it apears few other radios were bad too I had to get a replacement . Fact is lot of these devices are OK. But chinese quality control just isnt on par with even korea or the phillipines.
Thanks AFAIK, everyone's buttons on the Note 2 are loose, even those Made in Korea (as per XDA Note 2 General Forum Members). I've had the Made in Korea Note and Galaxy S2 before and they both sucked in quality control and were Made in Korea. Its not country of manufacture, its Samsung and their best friend, Plastic. Why not just use rubber? Lol...
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:victory: I don't think OP actually thought the device was manu in 93 xD Probably just concerned it doesnt say 2011 or 12 like it should . lol
OP MADE IN CHINA is all you have to see to answer your questions about loose this or that . This isn't the first thread I've seen about loose buttons on this device. . China makes junk , period. We're kinda lucky as many of these devices function flawlessly from the factory. My and it apears few other radios were bad too I had to get a replacement . Fact is lot of these devices are OK. But chinese quality control just isnt on par with even korea or the phillipines.
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Thanks AFAIK, everyone's buttons on the Note 2 are loose, even those Made in Korea (as per XDA Note 2 General Forum Members). I've had the Made in Korea Note and Galaxy S2 before and they both sucked in quality control and were Made in Korea. Its not country of manufacture, its Samsung and their best friend, Plastic. Why not just use rubber? Lol...
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mine arnt . thats the only thing on this phone that is ok . I guess your right on the samsung. I've predominantly used HTC throughout my smartphone experience. And their build quility is top notch . maybe Ill trade this thing for a one x or something. I mean the device itself is cool but .
Loose buttons , gps not working very well on more than a couple devices , terrible radios the fragililty of the device itself . I mean I cant tell you how many times Id dropped the MT4GS and I never had any problem with it.
1 think you a lemon ;P
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I've noticed quality issues on the Note 2, notably the bezel. The bezel is a throwback to the GS2 with the cheap electroplated plastic. Too easy to scratch, and out of the 3 or 4 I have had, most of them suffered from some sort of manufacturing defect. The GS3s bezel is actually constructed much beter, and I was hoping it would be the same. Instead it's identical to the Note 1 or the GS2.
I wonder how Samsung is able to sell something like this of very poor build quality. It's very shocking and insulting.
Very poor build quality? I have to disagree with you on that. They are built different, lots of plastic that's all. As far as I know anyway. My 3rd Galaxy phone model, and 4th total. I've never had an issue with any of them. However, for $700 I'd expect perfection regardless of where it's made. If you aren't happy definitely contact them.
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I wonder how Samsung is able to sell something like this of very poor build quality. It's very shocking and insulting.
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What are you even talking about??
I've gone through a few Note 2s now (long story), but all of them arrived in a very thin bubblewrap bag, and had the back plastic wrap on loose/wrinkled/something. I'm not sure why that happens, but they were all new and unused. One had a power button that didn't work right, the other had a deep nick on the side (ironically, near the power button) - and that was painted so it was definitely a defect, and then another one had a bad speaker.
The 4th still doesn't sound quite as good as I recall the 1st sounding, but everything otherwise is great and fine so I'm sticking with that one.
Also, I think the front edge of the ring that goes around the sides of the phone has paint that chips, possibly? I think those with the white Note 2s could provide more info about that, because I also see tiny black specs there sometimes, but I can't tell if it's dirt/dust or just the paint, or what? It's really hard to tell since the grey ones are painted really dark hehe.
Awesome phones though!
Also noting: All of these were made in China, and one says rev 1.1 on the box and had a slightly clickier home button (made on 12/3 I think?) but all were virtually identical otherwise. They're really nice phones, just.. not HTC or Apple quality hardware-wise I guess.

Upgrades and other devices discussion here

Please use this thread for upgrade and or other device discussion.
Be respectful of others in doing so, Thanks!
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So excited to be first! Envy and praise me!
So the obvious way to kick things off here would be the mention Samsung's new Smart Watch...
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So the obvious way to kick things off here would be the mention Samsung's new Smart Watch...
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Meh.. Its not great, but it's okay. You would never see me wearing one. I do, however, have my eyes on the Note 3. I own the s4 currently, but have always had a slight desire for the Note. I wasn't too sure about holding that monster up to my ear, but now that I have converted myself to only using a Bluetooth, I think I might JUMP (pun intended) on it.
Introducing the iPhone 5S
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sIWez9HAbA
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So excited to be first! Envy and praise me!
So the obvious way to kick things off here would be the mention Samsung's new Smart Watch...
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I already have a Samsung smart watch... I pull it out of my pocket, press the button on the top-right, and I can see what time it is. Among other things it also makes phone calls, records video, and is quite adept at just generally being pretty awesome. :laugh:
I don't see the necessity for the smart watch, especially since it has to be paired with a phone. It seems cool and all, but I think it's far too limited to be used regularly, intuitively speaking, and is also a bit pricey and gimmicky, imo. Of course, I'm sure some will come along and sing of it's praises, but to that poor misguided chap, I simply reply: bellow your misguided attempts of impression to someone else, for I remain thoroughly unimpressed!
Instead of a smart watch, i would rather a Star Trek style communicator badge.
The Note 3 does look like a decent upgrade from the N7000.
One thing i would like to see in a smartphone is a digital radio receiver, rather than (or in addition to) FM. I know digital radio isn't as ubiquitous as FM - and the standard varies from place to place (DAB+ here in Australia, iirc). But it would be pretty neat, and certainly innovative.
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I don't see the necessity for the smart watch, especially since it has to be paired with a phone. It seems cool and all, but I think it's far too limited to be used regularly, intuitively speaking, and is also a bit pricey and gimmicky, imo. Of course, I'm sure some will come along and sing of it's praises, but to that poor misguided chap, I simply reply: bellow your misguided attempts of impression to someone else, for I remain thoroughly unimpressed!
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I see your point....but on the flip side...its like a **** Tracy watch!
Sent from your phone. You should be careful where you leave that thing.
I definately wouldnt mind having the new Galaxy Note 3. That 5.7 inch screen tho. holy ginormous. I can't wait for the system dump though. I wanna port the new multi window that they have. It looks awesome! And that watch is insane. Wonder if it will work on the S4, wouldn't see why not!
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I definately wouldnt mind having the new Galaxy Note 3. That 5.7 inch screen tho. holy ginormous. I can't wait for the system dump though. I wanna port the new multi window that they have. It looks awesome! And that watch is insane. Wonder if it will work on the S4, wouldn't see why not!
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Samsung confirmed the watch will work with the GS4 when they update it to 4.3.
I'd rather wait for Colin Farell's (Total Recall movie) cellphone on the palm of his hand.
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Samsung confirmed the watch will work with the GS4 when they update it to 4.3.
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So that means it will never work on the T-Mobile GS4 since they don't know how to update us
im more interested in how the nexus 5 will turn out. The note 3 is good n all, but its too big for me, and s pen doesnt really grab me either. One of many good things i like about switching from sprint to tmobile is that switching phones is so much easier. ill have my s4 as a home phone and my nexus 5 as a going out device.
And seeing how t-mobile is dragging their feet with updating us without even giving us a reason, the nexus line is that much more appealing
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im more interested in how the nexus 5 will turn out. The note 3 is good n all, but its too big for me, and s pen doesnt really grab me either. One of many good things i like about switching from sprint to tmobile is that switching phones is so much easier. ill have my s4 as a home phone and my nexus 5 as a going out device.
And seeing how t-mobile is dragging their feet with updating us without even giving us a reason, the nexus line is that much more appealing
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The note 3 is quite large but the s pen is pretty cool I must admit!
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What do you guys think of the new iPhone 5S? I love how they are boasting about the fingerprint reader, which has been around for centuries. -.- I just can't wait till Samsung shows everyone up when they release a phone with a released version of the YOUM display. I'd love to see what Apple counters with xD
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What do you guys think of the new iPhone 5S? I love how they are boasting about the fingerprint reader, which has been around for centuries. -.- I just can't wait till Samsung shows everyone up when they release a phone with a released version of the YOUM display. I'd love to see what Apple counters with xD
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But it comes in colors now! No one ever thought of that before! Except you know...every accessories manufacturer who sells colorful cases for every phone ever made
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elesbb said:
What do you guys think of the new iPhone 5S? I love how they are boasting about the fingerprint reader, which has been around for centuries. -.- I just can't wait till Samsung shows everyone up when they release a phone with a released version of the YOUM display. I'd love to see what Apple counters with xD
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Looks pretty sorry IMO. Where's the NFC? Where's the top-notch processor? Removable battery, SD card slot, HD display? The list goes on.
Saturny said:
Looks pretty sorry IMO. Where's the NFC? Where's the top-notch processor? Removable battery, SD card slot, HD display? The list goes on.
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Actually that's prolly the only good thing about it. It's processor. It's 64 bit architecture. But still only dual core? Really apple lol. And skipJack's, the different colors are a HUGE step for apologize, let them have their parade
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What do you guys think of the new iPhone 5S? I love how they are boasting about the fingerprint reader, which has been around for centuries. -.- I just can't wait till Samsung shows everyone up when they release a phone with a released version of the YOUM display. I'd love to see what Apple counters with xD
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I just want Samsung to come out with a phone with an IPS screen and a faster camera, everything else with the GS4 is as good or better than the iPhone 5S imo.
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I just want Samsung to come out with a phone with an IPS screen and a faster camera, everything else with the GS4 is as good or better than the iPhone 5S imo.
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I would just like T-Mobile and Samsung to get me a phone that a) works with Bluetooth without breaking up; b) works with Speaker without breaking up, and c) actually does what it is supposed to do - when I want it to do so, regardless of where I am.
I really don't see this thing (S4) any better than my Bionic!
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I would just like T-Mobile and Samsung to get me a phone that a) works with Bluetooth without breaking up; b) works with Speaker without breaking up, and c) actually does what it is supposed to do - when I want it to do so, regardless of where I am.
I really don't see this thing (S4) any better than my Bionic!
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Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention a camera that actually focuses on the subject in the frame, and stays focused until it actually takes the picture.

is this a clone?

ok so of course the note 7 is out and i am so over my s7 edge lol. i am keeping an eye on craigslist and they are very slim pickings. not eligeable for my upgrade because i used it on my note 5 last year. i see this ad
http://austin.craigslist.org/ele/5789669691.html
i don't remember seeing the the actual word "edge" on the back of any youtube unboxing videos. is it the international version possibly or a straight up fake?
sand1303 said:
ok so of course the note 7 is out and i am so over my s7 edge lol. i am keeping an eye on craigslist and they are very slim pickings. not eligeable for my upgrade because i used it on my note 5 last year. i see this ad
http://austin.craigslist.org/ele/5789669691.html
i don't remember seeing the the actual word "edge" on the back of any youtube unboxing videos. is it the international version possibly or a straight up fake?
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There is no "Edge" word , as far as I know, on the back of the Note 7 .
Stay away from it !
100% fake. In the real one you cant see the back and task touch buttons (keys what ever its called) and there is only one lens on the top left hand side.
nice looking clone tho
Something isn't right about this phone that's for sure. I really doubt it's the real thing. If not, it's a really good clone. The color and glass look is really off. On the note 7, you don't see the back button and task button. They are not visible at all until it is lit up. There is no note 7 edge written on the back. Also, you can't see the sensors on the real one in between the iris scanner and ear speaker. So stay away from this one.
Itis a fake, as mentioned above,I have an intl. version, and no version is an "edge" , only the "S" series have edge versions
You guys can easily check if it's fake or not, by using the Phone INFO ★Samsung★ app.
In the app, select the menu 'Refurbishment Check'.
Very simple, isn't it.
vndnguyen said:
You guys can easily check if it's fake or not, by using the Phone INFO ★Samsung★ app.
In the app, select the menu 'Refurbishment Check'.
Very simple, isn't it.
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Or just keep using our eyes.....
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Or just keep using our eyes.....
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dude was just plugging his app, a very good app at that :good:

True 'replacement' phone for the Note 7...

And the winner is…
The Note 9. I mean Mate 9.
http://playfuldroid.com/alleged-huawei-mate-9-and-mate-9-pro-renders-had-been-leaked/
People should have waited, instead of "rushing in". Patience is a virtue.
This phone looks identical to the Note 7.
Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
I am raving about this phone specifically because we all know the Note 7 was "the most beautiful phone that ever was". Well now, we have a possible identical "replica", yet some of the specs simply blow away all competition bar none! Insane price tag of $1300 to prove it.
(The website I linked was used to give us an impression of what to expect. By all means check out some of the more established sites, such as gsmarena for more substantial information)
To be revealed on November 3rd.
I want it! Who's with me?
Who are we? Huawei.
(World's 3rd largest Cellphone Manufacturer. Who knew, right?)
It is nice but it is not blue . Plus I have read the premium version will only be available in China.
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It is nice but it is not blue . Plus I have read the premium version will only be available in China.
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What's wrong with Lavender?
Somewhere I read (cliche statement right there) there will be a multitude of colors to choose.
China only? Then why give us the 1300 figure in Dollars? Please why China? I am moving to China. You coming MateFreak?
LO. Sure if they waterproof it for me. After 1300 USD I will have to swim back home
Downright stupid not to make the pro version available in Europe, I'll rather wait for the note 8 then
Dudes. Please don't do the silly thing all tech websites do, like "hey! best note 7 replacements" and then show phones WITHOUT STYLUS... Each time I am forced to take the bait and realize that's its yet another big screen phone with the exact same specs as any other flagship phone. A phone without a Stylus can't replace the Note 7.
Yet no one says "no stylus no dice" and rushes out to get the V20, Pixel, iPhone, etc, etc.
This is a Note 7esque Phone, and we are on the Note 7 forum. I mean sure, go for the Note Pro 12.2, even a S7 Edge, but to think otherwise?
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Dudes. Please don't do the silly thing all tech websites do, like "hey! best note 7 replacements" and then show phones WITHOUT STYLUS... Each time I am forced to take the bait and realize that's its yet another big screen phone with the exact same specs as any other flagship phone. A phone without a Stylus can't replace the Note 7.
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I totally understand this. To be honest, I am still trying to figure out why so many people got the Note7, but admit the stylus wasn't important or a thing they used. Why didn't they upgrade to the S7 Edge six months earlier. To me, the point of the Note series was the stylus once the other phones got big screens, too. There is no other phone that makes taking hours of notes easy to do and easy to reference.
I am stuck in a horrible limbo without a true replacement phone. I keep hoping someone is going to post a "I found a replacement" link that has a stylus.
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To be honest, I am still trying to figure out why so many people got the Note7, but admit the stylus wasn't important or a thing they used.
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Premium build, Better looking form factor, larger screen, latest tech. etc. I use my stylus, just not as much as people think you're supposed to, that's like saying "why do you have a waterproof phone if you don't go swimming?" waterproof or not, my phone will never see water. If the S8 was an exact clone of the Note 7 minus the s-pen, I'm all over it. But if it comes out looking like another rounded, pebble-shaped, bubbly piece of glass like the S7 I'll once again pass and wait for the Note 8 that i hope has the sharper corners and better overall aesthetics . I work professionally as a graphic designer and freelance digital illustrator, and STILL maybe only pull the stylus out once a week to jot down a grocery list or idea, unless you're someones personal assistant or something like that, I really don't see the s-pen never leaving your hand.
The Note isn't and hasn't ever been just about the s-pen.
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I totally understand this. To be honest, I am still trying to figure out why so many people got the Note7, but admit the stylus wasn't important or a thing they used. Why didn't they upgrade to the S7 Edge six months earlier. To me, the point of the Note series was the stylus once the other phones got big screens, too. There is no other phone that makes taking hours of notes easy to do and easy to reference.
I am stuck in a horrible limbo without a true replacement phone. I keep hoping someone is going to post a "I found a replacement" link that has a stylus.
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The s7 edge has "sharper" edges on the screen the Note 7 are more subtle making it easier to use. The always on display on the Note 7 is MUCH more useful. These are the two biggest and most important differences to me between the Note 7 and s7 edge. I don't use the S-pen all that often but there are some situations where it's unbelievably useful.
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The s7 edge has "sharper" edges on the screen the Note 7 are more subtle making it easier to use. The always on display on the Note 7 is MUCH more useful. These are the two biggest and most important differences to me between the Note 7 and s7 edge. I don't use the S-pen all that often but there are some situations where it's unbelievably useful.
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S7E got the N7's always on display with latest update.
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S7E got the N7's always on display with latest update.
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I thought so as well but My Wife's didn't. Third party apps still do not show up on her AOD. I have cleared cache and it did not help.
Novarider said:
I thought so as well but My Wife's didn't. Third party apps still do not show up on her AOD. I have cleared cache and it did not help.
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I hadn't noticed, but they don't show up on mine either. Maybe with the next update.
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I hadn't noticed, but they don't show up on mine either. Maybe with the next update.
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My wife's AOD in her s7 edge is practically useless. Basically just a clock.
My hope is that the note 5 gets the AOD when it gets the Nougat update. I just purchased a note 5 to use till the next note comes out.
I'm considering Pixel XL with Project FI. It's a downgrade for sure, but It's a fastest android phone and from Google. And Project FI is only available on Google phones - basically, unlimited text/talk plus some data, best coverage in the US and possibly the world for only $25 a month.
What do you think?
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S7E got the N7's always on display with latest update.
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Its no way as useful even with the update.
It won't show you calendar appointments and tasks like it does on Note 7. Other SPen related features like pinning hand written notes on the AOD screen are amazing useful and convenient. These could never come to the S7 Edge.

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