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Nexus Back Camera Swap with a SII / SIII

Hi there Nexus owners, I currently own a Nexus S, and I plan on switching to a Galaxy Nexus but I was wondering since the Sa Nexus camera is lacking in the numbers when it comes to megapixels, does anyone know of the possibilities of swapping the camera of an SII (8mp) with that of our phone?
My Nexus S takes good enough pictures at 5mp but I just want to justify the lack of a need for the SIII over the Nexus.
I found the back camera for an SII for sale here.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gal...ltDomain_0&hash=item3a73f3b2f3#ht_3470wt_1378

nice double post. i'll reply here too:
No. Its not going to happen. Seriously people?

Seriously. It's just one of those days. You know it had to happen with the influx of gnex flying out the door recently.
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Sorry about the double post, I had to when I noticed the post right after mine stating "All Questions to Go into the Q&A Section".
So why do you think its not going to happen? Any insights?

@rbiter said:
Seriously. It's just one of those days. You know it had to happen with the influx of gnex flying out the door recently.
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fixedonfixies said:
So why do you think its not going to happen? Any insights?
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Because you can't just take apart 2 phones and swap parts frankenstein style. Just because they're both phone cameras doesn't mean they're "plug and play". These things aren't desktop computers, their parts are not interchangeable.
If you think that the camera on the GNex is that bad (it actually isn't), and a phone camera is that important to you, don't buy the GNex.

Thanks for the input, I brought it up only because I know a fairly similar act was successfully pulled off with the Galaxy S and the Galaxy S 4G, with the front camera swap. Maybe someone with better knowledge of the internals can give some insight on what differences exist if there are. I dont mind getting the GNEX to be frank, way to much pros over the cons, but I can't wait to be able to swap out parts off a phone on the fly like a computer. Now thats going to be the best thing that happened to the phone industry after Android.

fixedonfixies said:
Thanks for the input, I brought it up only because I know a fairly similar act was successfully pulled off with the Galaxy S and the Galaxy S 4G, with the front camera swap.
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The Galaxy S and Galaxy S4G are effectively the same phone, one just has a faster radio.
...but I can't wait to be able to swap out parts off a phone on the fly like a computer. Now thats going to be the best thing that happened to the phone industry after Android.
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This isn't ever going to happen.

martonikaj said:
This isn't ever going to happen.
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Remember the name "Toba", You will think of me when it does happen.

fixedonfixies said:
Remember the name "Toba", You will think of me when it does happen.
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Phones have been closed proprietary hardware systems since the modern smartphone. They're getting more closed and proprietary as time goes on. If you want better performance, battery life, and design you need them to be closed, sealed devices.
Even laptops are going this way. If you wanna swap parts get a dekstop computer.

fixedonfixies said:
Maybe someone with better knowledge of the internals can give some insight on what differences exist if there are.
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The Galaxy Nexus and Galaxy S II camera modules are totally different. If the SII camera worked out of the box with the Galaxus' ISP (which is quite possible,) the connectors are completely different. It would require so much work that it just wouldn't be worth it by any stretch.
That and it probably wouldn't even fit inside the phone.

fixedonfixies said:
Remember the name "Toba", You will think of me when it does happen.
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How many universal parts/standards do you see on the inside of phones? Even if parts were more universal your phone would be uglier than Frankenstein and look like a mummy with all the duct tape keeping it together so you have something usable. A lot of things would have to become standard before swapping parts in and out even becomes thinkable. Think when a thought pops happens upon your head.
let it be.

When i read threads like this or those "can i install Gingerbread on gnex? " i really think these are TROLLS trying to get people mad...
Makes no sense, you want a better camera? Get a nikkon camera... I dont even see the point on better cameras on a phone.. If i can take a picture to put a Face on my contact or to take any fast photo for a quick reference.. Im ok.. Now if I want really good pictures for a wedding, 15 years daughter party or any special moment.. Id hire a professional photographer.. Thats all about it
Ppl tends to be really stupid about this, like iphone fan Boys.. When they figured 4S its a piece of crap they only got left to say oh but the camera its awesome... Yeah?? Better than a nikkon 24mp / 300 photos per second / 2milles zoom 250gb internal memory 1 touch in screen per 300 photos?... I say go to hell
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Thanks for ur inputs guys. That been said if you are a member of XDA then I will think you won't be one to comfortably accept what the manufacturer gave u as is, keep it in your pocket and feel satisfied, we are here to tweak, tinker and learn from these devices, some of us at least.
If no one challenged what manufacturers have handed down then there won't be a need for MIUI, Voodoo, Ezekeel etc. I was only looking to see the possibilities I am not an electronic head to know exactly what can be or cannot be done. But I sure can don't mind satisfying my curiosities by raising questions i am unsure about, so call me a troll if u want. "That don't faze me foo".
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fixedonfixies said:
Thanks for ur inputs guys. That been said if you are a member of XDA then I will think you won't be one to comfortably accept what the manufacturer gave u as is, keep it in your pocket and feel satisfied, we are here to tweak, tinker and learn from these devices, some of us at least.
If no one challenged what manufacturers have handed down then there won't be a need for MIUI, Voodoo, Ezekeel etc. I was only looking to see the possibilities I am not an electronic head to know exactly what can be or cannot be done. But I sure can don't mind satisfying my curiosities by raising questions i am unsure about, so call me a troll if u want. "That don't faze me foo".
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Even if possible, if. You got enough money to buy 2 phones just to swap cameras, or lets put it this way, the camera its so portant to you that you dont mind spending over 1k USD just to swap the camera and with the risk of damaging the 2 phones in the process (as you said "you are not an electronic head") so risk its even higher of messing all the things up.. And wasting 1k USD?? Ok thats your money its your problem but dont Think any decent person around here will lead you to that and as i said if the camera its so important, dude theres plenty devices out there with 8/12 mp cameras and you can always flash some stock/custom ICS room to that device.
So you can get your camera with ICS in a reasonable way and any1 could help you accomplish that
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Sjael said:
The Galaxy Nexus and Galaxy S II camera modules are totally different. If the SII camera worked out of the box with the Galaxus' ISP (which is quite possible,) the connectors are completely different. It would require so much work that it just wouldn't be worth it by any stretch.
That and it probably wouldn't even fit inside the phone.
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The first helpful post. Not just people *****ing about people asking questions on a Q&A forum.
This was an interesting question, yet the regulars still just see it as an opportunity to ***** and moan. Why hang around the Q&A forum if you're just gonna get pissed off with every single question that gets asked?
Thanks Sjael.
msedek said:
Even if possible, if. You got enough money to buy 2 phones just to swap cameras, or lets put it this way, the camera its so portant to you that you dont mind spending over 1k USD just to swap the camera and with the risk of damaging the 2 phones in the process (as you said "you are not an electronic head") so risk its even higher of messing all the things up.. And wasting 1k USD?? Ok thats your money its your problem but dont Think any decent person around here will lead you to that and as i said if the camera its so important, dude theres plenty devices out there with 8/12 mp cameras and you can always flash some stock/custom ICS room to that device.
So you can get your camera with ICS in a reasonable way and any1 could help you accomplish that
Cheers
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OP linked an Ebay listing of a SGS2 camera that he would have purchased if it was possible to swap the cameras..

PsiAdster said:
The first helpful post. Not just people *****ing about people asking questions on a Q&A forum.
This was an interesting question, yet the regulars still just see it as an opportunity to ***** and moan. Why hang around the Q&A forum if you're just gonna get pissed off with every single question that gets asked?
Thanks Sjael.
OP linked an Ebay listing of a SGS2 camera that he would have purchased if it was possible to swap the cameras..
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Well not 1k USD but 700 then thats not the point
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PsiAdster said:
The first helpful post. Not just people *****ing about people asking questions on a Q&A forum.
This was an interesting question, yet the regulars still just see it as an opportunity to ***** and moan. Why hang around the Q&A forum if you're just gonna get pissed off with every single question that gets asked?
Thanks Sjael.
OP linked an Ebay listing of a SGS2 camera that he would have purchased if it was possible to swap the cameras..
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Exactly. If you don't like questions maybe you should stay out of QnA.

fixedonfixies said:
Remember the name "Toba", You will think of me when it does happen.
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Don't forget the duct tape and jb-weld.

I still don't get why people are so worried with the GN's camera. I have both (GN & GS2) and can't tell from a glance "oh, this is the GN and this is the GS2" from looking at a picture.
- both are back illuminated sensors
- a 1920x1080 screen is 2 megapixels, most professional photographers say that 5 megapixels is more than enough, above is only useful if you *print* on large medias (eg. posters)
- both have the same sensor size
It is true that the GN had focus oddities and no image stabilization but this was fixed in 4.0.4. Don't forget that the GN has 2 CPUs (Cortex M3) dedicated solely to the camera subsystem. This is why there's instant shoot on that device.

Also consider that things change WAY too fast in this industry to develop standards. Intel can make a new CPU and ride on it for 2-3 years before they need to make a new one, even with AMD nipping at its heels. And when they make their CPU, they make it however they want, and the OEMs will build the form factor around it.
Smartphone companies do not have the same luxury. People want their sensor-laden connected supercomputers to fit comfortably in their hands, and they want it right now. If someone were to try to come up with a standard CPU, it would be obsolete before the ink dried on the standards page. Look how long it took them to agree on MicroUSB, and that's just a port.
Company: Here's your camera standard, the C5. Plug it into any board and you're good to go.
OEM: Only 8 megapixels? No backlight? Not good enough.
Company. OK, here's the C6.
Only 12 megapixels? NO CMOS sensor?
And on it goes.

My new Galaxy S4

story here

Perfect, just in time for my contract to be up!
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Quad core, LTE & 5" inch OLED display = pure awesomeness!!!!
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Hah. Nice. So the Galaxy S4 might be released as soon as Februrary 2013 with the following rumored features (from the article):
1) A 5" SAMOLED display which may or may not be the new flexible tech. (Getting into Note territory here...)
2) Will have a quad-core exynos or qualcomm cpu
3) The design may be different for each US carrier again (bummer)
And I loved this quote :
The S4 will see some external changes but retain its popular rectangular shape with rounded corner concept,’’ said an official from one of Samsung’s local partners.
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Swiftks said:
Quad core, LTE & 5" inch OLED display = pure awesomeness!!!!
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Yep! But I think I'm holding out for the Note 3 in Jan 2014, which is the soonest I can upgrade anyway
(should be 1080p too)

hmmmmmmmm....... I'm waiting to see what HTC would come up... Some of their designs badly need a successor... say, the HTC Desire Z, it was the last phone they made with a keyboard.... and that was about 3 years ago already.... I'm quite a fan of phones with keyboards, so I'm also gonna be interested what Samsung would put out witha keyboard... Now that I'm on the samsung bandwagon, I'm quite inclined to get a samsung phone...
but yeah, nice to see the S4 is already under development... but I'm afraid 5" of screen is too big for me already... The S3 is on a sweet spot on it's size, still fairly big for me, but does have some advantages. Meanwhile, the Note, when I saw it... it looked amazing... but simply, the screen was too big.... so I skipped it and here came the S3

zaghy2zy said:
hmmmmmmmm....... I'm waiting to see what HTC would come up... Some of their designs badly need a successor... say, the HTC Desire Z, it was the last phone they made with a keyboard.... and that was about 3 years ago already.... I'm quite a fan of phones with keyboards, so I'm also gonna be interested what Samsung would put out witha keyboard... Now that I'm on the samsung bandwagon, I'm quite inclined to get a samsung phone...
but yeah, nice to see the S4 is already under development... but I'm afraid 5" of screen is too big for me already... The S3 is on a sweet spot on it's size, still fairly big for me, but does have some advantages. Meanwhile, the Note, when I saw it... it looked amazing... but simply, the screen was too big.... so I skipped it and here came the S3
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Ummm, myTouch 4G Slide aka the doubleshot sound familiar?

i think the timeline will be similar to htc one x and galaxy s3
htc released one x around april-ish, and samsung released galaxy s3 couple months later around july-ish
htc has that rumored 5inch 1080p phone... maybe gonna come out late late this year or early next year?
and samsung galaxy s4 maybe shortly after once again

This is all fake
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drakeymcmb said:
This is all fake
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Why must you guys play with my emotions!
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drakeymcmb said:
This is all fake
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It's not fake.
The Korea Times website is just the online version of a reputable Korean newspaper. It's not sham news site like the dailynews.co.uk is with alien abductions and whatnot.

I'm holding out for the Note 5... or maybe the S6. I just can't decide.

I realize this is a totally subjective topic, but if the 5" screen size rumor holds true, this would suck moose junk in my opinion, unless the plan is to decrease bezel of current sized S3 handset to accomodate more screen.
I sold the Note to move to the S3 specifically because that phone was freakishly and totally unnecessarily gargantuan, so I hate to think that Samsung is moving that direction with the S4 also.
Again, my hope is that they bring the screen out further toward the edges on the same size handset as the S3 currently is, but if not, I think it's HTC time for me, come next Sept when I'm for upgrade.
-Ryan

When was the S2 released?

ryandelman said:
I realize this is a totally subjective topic, but if the 5" screen size rumor holds true, this would suck moose junk in my opinion, unless the plan is to decrease bezel of current sized S3 handset to accomodate more screen.
I sold the Note to move to the S3 specifically because that phone was freakishly and totally unnecessarily gargantuan, so I hate to think that Samsung is moving that direction with the S4 also.
Again, my hope is that they bring the screen out further toward the edges on the same size handset as the S3 currently is, but if not, I think it's HTC time for me, come next Sept when I'm for upgrade.
-Ryan
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This!! The s3 is the largest I'd want to go.

ryandelman said:
I realize this is a totally subjective topic, but if the 5" screen size rumor holds true, this would suck moose junk in my opinion, unless the plan is to decrease bezel of current sized S3 handset to accomodate more screen.
I sold the Note to move to the S3 specifically because that phone was freakishly and totally unnecessarily gargantuan, so I hate to think that Samsung is moving that direction with the S4 also.
Again, my hope is that they bring the screen out further toward the edges on the same size handset as the S3 currently is, but if not, I think it's HTC time for me, come next Sept when I'm for upgrade.
-Ryan
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Agreed, I was hesitant to go to the S3 because 4.8 sounded too big as my kid had a infuse 4g at 4.5...but they figured out how to make the 4.8 the same size basically as the infuse so hopefully they do this again as I just dont think I can go bigger than the S3. I would look for this to be out in June/July just like this year. I will be halfway through my contract so it wont matter much to me...

crash822 said:
This!! The s3 is the largest I'd want to go.
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this!
don't want to be walking around with a laptop attached to my head.

ehaze said:
this!
don't want to be walking around with a laptop attached to my head.
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Then use bluetooth, or a headset, or speakerphone, and if you don't want to, why care what other people think for fraction of time that you hold it up to your ear? 99% of the time we're using our phones as computers, so the larger the screen the better. Sacrificing screen size to please others is retarded; not the other people you're so worried about.
^^^ This. Me.

I really hope they don't go back to different form factors. It's so easy to find accessories for the GS3.

zmore said:
Then use bluetooth, or a headset, or speakerphone, and if you don't want to, why care what other people think for fraction of time that you hold it up to your ear? 99% of the time we're using our phones as computers, so the larger the screen the better. Sacrificing screen size to please others is retarded; not the other people you're so worried about.
^^^ This. Me.
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Whoever said anything about worrying about what other people think.
I don't want a big ass phone. I'm only 5'3 and my hands are far from being the largest. If the phone was any larger then I'd have trouble holding it properly. I also just don't like the look of the larger phones. When I see the note I think to myself it is ugly because it is so big.
People other than me may find the larger size more welcome or be indifferent, I just don't want the phone to get any larger.

Can't wait till we start rockin 25 inch phones. That will awesome! Can't wait for 2023!!
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Honestly, the S3 is my first Android device. Before this I had an iPhone 4 and before that an iPhone 3GS.
Things that I love about my Galaxy S3?
Google Navigation and maps, and the blinking LED, which I find incredibly useful!
Things I miss about iOS? My Shure earphones with mic / volume control don't work with the Sammie S3. Also, believe it or not, I miss iMessage.
But the ability to customize Android takes the cake. I used to jailbreak my Apple all the time... Even without rooting or switching to a custom ROM, the flexibility of Android is outstanding!
I'm LOVING the S3!!!!

I am also loving my S3. I was gonna hold of on the note 2 but have a nexus 7 and didn't really want a phone that big. Really wish the US S3 had the quad core though

Apple strikes again - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEy2u2n_XTQ
They've actually GOT the patent GRANTED.

I have been an android user for several years now. I have been burning roms for my Inspire 4G with regularity. Now I have an s3 and I love it just the way it is. Although I couldn't resist rooting and adding CWM.
My employer makes me carry a iphone 4s for mail and phone purposes. After growing accustomed to touchdown, I really feel handicapped by the built in exchange support apple gave me. It sucks quite simply.
Tonight I got an email from our IT department telling me to not use my phone to respond to any meeting invitation as it could delete the invite for ALL recipients. I must wait for Apple to release an update for ios 6.
What I detest about the iPhone? The store- I have to enter my password each time. Tiny screen, crappy auto-correct, no back button. What do I like? Delete mail animation.
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What model Shure's are you using?
Would love to hear what kind of setup you had with the iphone and now the GS3. Can't help you with the volume, but you can get a cable with a mic. Lol. But seriously, when I'm listening to music I don't want a mic, I don't think I'd use the volume but if i could advance a song that would be nice.
Current setup:
Shure SE315, paid version Equilizer and fiio E6 portable amplifier. (fx music off) I can rock and I'm about to really upgrade.
If you don't have your Shure's running through a portable amplifier, your missing out.
Thanks
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thanks!

G-Man. said:
Apple strikes again - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEy2u2n_XTQ
They've actually GOT the patent GRANTED.
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This is just disgusting.....

Loving my Galaxy s III (i747)
I was going to stick with my GS2 but finally caved and upgraded to the Galaxy SIII (i747). I still miss the size of the GS2 (fit better in my hand), but the features (screen clarity, camera app, motion features, etc) on the GS3 are amazing. After 4 months of running stock, I finally went on a flashing spree and have finally settled on Ariel 2.10 ICS Stock/Moded ROM.

GS3 vs iPhone
I've always been an Android user and the GS3 is by far the best. My wife, due to following trend, insisted on having an iPhone 4S. After her and I doing a side by side comparison, she wishes she had gone with a GS3 as well. I enjoy flashing, rooting, customizing, and getting under the hood of my devices. It is interesting to see that Apple has played catch up on iPhone 5. It will also be interesting to see how their reputation continues to hold up within the next few years with their attempts to dominate the market through litigation.

Anyone check out the Xperia Ion? My mom had gotten it yesterday and said she didn't like it. The phone has a 12MP camera, but in my opinion that's the only good feature. The shape of the phone itself (big square with a rounded back) makes it uncomfortable to hold. The speaker is horrible. You have to hold the phone to your ear to hear things from the speaker. Software wise it isn't terrible. They give you a good amount of theme options straight out of the box.
Stock ICS on my S3

much mminemp
the i5 has better drop test results then the s3 they need to make more sturdy phones

My first android was the S2 SR. The phone was perfect save for the music player, I just couldn't find one I liked so I just tote my iPhone 4 around for music. Apple makes good music players but that's where it ends for me. Since I've used Android, iOS just doesn't cut it for me and I probably won't ever use another iPhone as a primary phone again.
Stock ICS on my S3

S3 Better than iPhone 5
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the S3 has a curvy feeling with being thin rather than boxy which is where it makes the sides and enclosure of the gs3 as a whole weaker.
If it was a box like the iPhone 5 it'd be better enclosure-wise yes...but than not as many people would love the s3
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Anyone check out the Xperia Ion? My mom had gotten it yesterday and said she didn't like it. The phone has a 12MP camera, but in my opinion that's the only good feature. The shape of the phone itself (big square with a rounded back) makes it uncomfortable to hold. The speaker is horrible. You have to hold the phone to your ear to hear things from the speaker. Software wise it isn't terrible. They give you a good amount of theme options straight out of the box.
Stock ICS on my S3
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The Ion isn't too bad but I agree on the shape. Xperia's interface doesn't flow as well as TouchWiz does at all. Media-wise yes it's great but otherwise it doesn't
appeal as nicely as the s3 would. Xperia rooting also is more of a pain than samsung has ever been. Their camea's megapixel is higher, and always has been but
I dont see it being the solid reason to get one.

I started with the Blackberry Bold, then went with a cheap Windows Phone for a while, and now have the Galaxy S3. First time Android owner here.
I think I will grow to love Android. My first impression was that, out of the box, my Windows Phone was better. It felt quicker and did the things I wanted to better. I absolutely LOVE how much customization is available for Android phones, though, so I have a feeling that I will definitely love this phone, once I've tinkered around with it.

So when does Samsung think it'll be right to let all of us android virgins in on some of their secrets? Here's one of my favorites - No app to sd UNLESS the app is "at least 1 gig in size" (so why sell the device with the external sd slot?)
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So when does Samsung think it'll be right to let all of us android virgins in on some of their secrets? Here's one of my favorites - No app to sd UNLESS the app is "at least 1 gig in size" (so why sell the device with the external sd slot?)
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lol, I know when I was doing research on the s3, I found a custom rom that would switch the interal and external sd cards

Oh yeah? Will you share, please? I'm not rooted - yet. Thinking I'll wait until my factory warranty is up - then again...
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Well said. My first smarty was blackberry - no joke - I thought I was made, man. Then HTC Inspire blew my socks off. In a couple months I was up for an upgrade. Did my research and got the powerful sgs3. OMG and all that! But now I'm sooo bummed. No sd recognition other than memory capacity. Sammy says it's just the way they made it. When I said their promotions didn't reveal the fact that there was no "app2sd" capability UNLESS the app used 1g+ (I found that tidbit out only days ago), the response was something close to 'sorry about your luck.'
I dunno how this looks to others, but I feel that the sgs3 was misrepresented. Whether deliberately or not, that's not my issue. I'm no dev or geek, so when you sell me on the monster memory, unequaled personalization, and myriad other bells n whistles, I'm gonna expect that ability. But don't tell me it's mine with an after-the-fact 'btw just the phone and some of its power are yours; you'll never be the 'administrator' unless you wanna void our warranty... ' I'm just saying...
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Oh yeah? Will you share, please? I'm not rooted - yet. Thinking I'll wait until my factory warranty is up - then again...
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Well said. My first smarty was blackberry - no joke - I thought I was made, man. Then HTC Inspire blew my socks off. In a couple months I was up for an upgrade. Did my research and got the powerful sgs3. OMG and all that! But now I'm sooo bummed. No sd recognition other than memory capacity. Sammy says it's just the way they made it. When I said their promotions didn't reveal the fact that there was no "app2sd" capability UNLESS the app used 1g+ (I found that tidbit out only days ago), the response was something close to 'sorry about your luck.'
I dunno how this looks to others, but I feel that the sgs3 was misrepresented. Whether deliberately or not, that's not my issue. I'm no dev or geek, so when you sell me on the monster memory, unequaled personalization, and myriad other bells n whistles, I'm gonna expect that ability. But don't tell me it's mine with an after-the-fact 'btw just the phone and some of its power are yours; you'll never be the 'administrator' unless you wanna void our warranty... ' I'm just saying...
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Stop crying about apps to sd-card here is what you need : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1849857

I hear this is the place to ask so, I'll take a swing. SG3 vs HTC OX+? I'll be picking one up tomorrow. I've read the reviews. Each seems to have pros and cons. The HTC is much faster, the SG3 has a memory card slot, removable battery, and a bigger support base. I'm hoping for some real world input please..

True 'replacement' phone for the Note 7...

And the winner is…
The Note 9. I mean Mate 9.
http://playfuldroid.com/alleged-huawei-mate-9-and-mate-9-pro-renders-had-been-leaked/
People should have waited, instead of "rushing in". Patience is a virtue.
This phone looks identical to the Note 7.
Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

I am raving about this phone specifically because we all know the Note 7 was "the most beautiful phone that ever was". Well now, we have a possible identical "replica", yet some of the specs simply blow away all competition bar none! Insane price tag of $1300 to prove it.
(The website I linked was used to give us an impression of what to expect. By all means check out some of the more established sites, such as gsmarena for more substantial information)
To be revealed on November 3rd.
I want it! Who's with me?
Who are we? Huawei.
(World's 3rd largest Cellphone Manufacturer. Who knew, right?)

It is nice but it is not blue . Plus I have read the premium version will only be available in China.

notefreak said:
It is nice but it is not blue . Plus I have read the premium version will only be available in China.
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What's wrong with Lavender?
Somewhere I read (cliche statement right there) there will be a multitude of colors to choose.
China only? Then why give us the 1300 figure in Dollars? Please why China? I am moving to China. You coming MateFreak?

LO. Sure if they waterproof it for me. After 1300 USD I will have to swim back home

Downright stupid not to make the pro version available in Europe, I'll rather wait for the note 8 then

Dudes. Please don't do the silly thing all tech websites do, like "hey! best note 7 replacements" and then show phones WITHOUT STYLUS... Each time I am forced to take the bait and realize that's its yet another big screen phone with the exact same specs as any other flagship phone. A phone without a Stylus can't replace the Note 7.

Yet no one says "no stylus no dice" and rushes out to get the V20, Pixel, iPhone, etc, etc.
This is a Note 7esque Phone, and we are on the Note 7 forum. I mean sure, go for the Note Pro 12.2, even a S7 Edge, but to think otherwise?

nomailx said:
Dudes. Please don't do the silly thing all tech websites do, like "hey! best note 7 replacements" and then show phones WITHOUT STYLUS... Each time I am forced to take the bait and realize that's its yet another big screen phone with the exact same specs as any other flagship phone. A phone without a Stylus can't replace the Note 7.
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I totally understand this. To be honest, I am still trying to figure out why so many people got the Note7, but admit the stylus wasn't important or a thing they used. Why didn't they upgrade to the S7 Edge six months earlier. To me, the point of the Note series was the stylus once the other phones got big screens, too. There is no other phone that makes taking hours of notes easy to do and easy to reference.
I am stuck in a horrible limbo without a true replacement phone. I keep hoping someone is going to post a "I found a replacement" link that has a stylus.

Capzlawk said:
To be honest, I am still trying to figure out why so many people got the Note7, but admit the stylus wasn't important or a thing they used.
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Premium build, Better looking form factor, larger screen, latest tech. etc. I use my stylus, just not as much as people think you're supposed to, that's like saying "why do you have a waterproof phone if you don't go swimming?" waterproof or not, my phone will never see water. If the S8 was an exact clone of the Note 7 minus the s-pen, I'm all over it. But if it comes out looking like another rounded, pebble-shaped, bubbly piece of glass like the S7 I'll once again pass and wait for the Note 8 that i hope has the sharper corners and better overall aesthetics . I work professionally as a graphic designer and freelance digital illustrator, and STILL maybe only pull the stylus out once a week to jot down a grocery list or idea, unless you're someones personal assistant or something like that, I really don't see the s-pen never leaving your hand.
The Note isn't and hasn't ever been just about the s-pen.

Capzlawk said:
I totally understand this. To be honest, I am still trying to figure out why so many people got the Note7, but admit the stylus wasn't important or a thing they used. Why didn't they upgrade to the S7 Edge six months earlier. To me, the point of the Note series was the stylus once the other phones got big screens, too. There is no other phone that makes taking hours of notes easy to do and easy to reference.
I am stuck in a horrible limbo without a true replacement phone. I keep hoping someone is going to post a "I found a replacement" link that has a stylus.
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The s7 edge has "sharper" edges on the screen the Note 7 are more subtle making it easier to use. The always on display on the Note 7 is MUCH more useful. These are the two biggest and most important differences to me between the Note 7 and s7 edge. I don't use the S-pen all that often but there are some situations where it's unbelievably useful.

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The s7 edge has "sharper" edges on the screen the Note 7 are more subtle making it easier to use. The always on display on the Note 7 is MUCH more useful. These are the two biggest and most important differences to me between the Note 7 and s7 edge. I don't use the S-pen all that often but there are some situations where it's unbelievably useful.
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S7E got the N7's always on display with latest update.
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S7E got the N7's always on display with latest update.
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I thought so as well but My Wife's didn't. Third party apps still do not show up on her AOD. I have cleared cache and it did not help.

Novarider said:
I thought so as well but My Wife's didn't. Third party apps still do not show up on her AOD. I have cleared cache and it did not help.
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I hadn't noticed, but they don't show up on mine either. Maybe with the next update.
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I hadn't noticed, but they don't show up on mine either. Maybe with the next update.
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My wife's AOD in her s7 edge is practically useless. Basically just a clock.
My hope is that the note 5 gets the AOD when it gets the Nougat update. I just purchased a note 5 to use till the next note comes out.

I'm considering Pixel XL with Project FI. It's a downgrade for sure, but It's a fastest android phone and from Google. And Project FI is only available on Google phones - basically, unlimited text/talk plus some data, best coverage in the US and possibly the world for only $25 a month.
What do you think?

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S7E got the N7's always on display with latest update.
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Its no way as useful even with the update.
It won't show you calendar appointments and tasks like it does on Note 7. Other SPen related features like pinning hand written notes on the AOD screen are amazing useful and convenient. These could never come to the S7 Edge.

What features are you going to miss, love or are concerned with when buying the Fold?

Without ever seeing the Fold in person and actually handling it I going to miss a few features based on the Specs I've read and videos I've watched. Here's my list.
Features I might miss:
1. Larger front facing screen...my caveat here is if the screen was larger it would probably be way too skinny anyway and would look really weird because of the dimensions..
2. Iris Scanner - love this feature on my N9. I know it's already gone on the S10's but it just works so well.
3. Update :MST for Samsung Pay is Probable for all phones. From what I've read, we're only getting NFC at least on AT&T but their website could be wrong since Samsung says it will have MST & AND NFC. That is always the beauty of Samsung Pay over various other Pay technologies. Worked just about everywhere for me.
4. MicroSD slot. OK, I might not use up the 512GB but do love the MicroSSD option which is great to easily move files and backups around., etc.
5. Waterproofing. I'm guessing that the Hinge is the problem and it would be difficult to waterproof the phone because of it.
6. The Fold would have been perfect if it had an S-Pen...with a selfie camera in the S-Pen (LOL!).
Features I'm not happy with (but I'll still live with):
1. That damn notch with a bezel on the big/inside screen. Almost made me bypass the pre-order. If that screen wasn't so large, I definitely would not have bought the phone. I swore I'd never buy a phone with a notch...Oh well.
2. (I know that this should probably be number one) The Crease! It remains to be seen but every video displays the crease in some manner. I find it funny that any article that I've read where Samsung has replied states that the crease is only seen in these **pre-production** models and the crease will not be seen on the final Fold versions. I'm not holding my breath on this one! So many reviewers stated that looking at the screen straight on and/or with a different wallpaper that the crease is barely visible or not visible at all. Now looking at the screen off to the side, the crease can be seen.
3. The batteries. They should have installed greater mAh capacity batteries. C'mon Samsung! You're using 2 separate batteries, give us more juice. You know we'll be on the 7.3" screen constantly!
4. I'm not really mad that they removed the headphone jack. I love options but 99% of the time I'm using BT headphones anyway.
5. The cameras. OK, we have LOTS of them! But for almost $2000.00 these cameras should have been even better than the S10/S10+'s cams. This Fold phone is Super Special and should have had a little bit more (can you say 10 X optical zoom? Might not have fit though).
6. I am still not fond of the Bixby functionality in comparison to Google Assistant. The Bixby routines are probably the best part of Bixby. I'll probably bypass Bixby.
7. Bixby button also being the fingerprint scanner. I'll lose my mind if I continually activate the Bixby button instead of unlocking my phone. That would make me crazy so I would use other software to disable Bixby altogether.
8. Many early articles on the Fold stated that Samsung would give us a free year of Samsung Premium Care+. I'm hoping that when I receive the Fold, I'll be surprised and find documentation to sign up for our free year. I'm probably dreaming...
9. They should have offered more for Trade-ins. Only up to $300.00 where it was $550.00 for the S10 possible trade-in values. (I'm kind of glad though since I may just need to keep my Note 9 around for awhile).
Unknowns:
1. It remains to be seen if the developers will build apps to work with continuity and sizing, etc. If that isn't done then we might own a $2000.00 boring paperweight. I need my Kustom suite of Apps and if they don't work, the Fold will be almost useless to me).
2. Will the Fold just be too long to easily fit in my pocket. I never put any phones in a back pocket but occasionally put in front pocket. Most of the time it's in a zippered pocket in a jacket or purse or backpack or small waist pack. I'm really not too worried..yet! Hahaha!
3. We definitely need a variety of cases. I'm sure they'll come. The interest in the Fold has seemingly surpassed Samsung's expectations. Samsung kept the final Fold design under wraps so long that I think that's one of the reasons the case makers haven't delivered yet (or they thought that the Fold wouldn't have much interest). I need a super protective Clear Case. I want to show off that Martian green with Gold Hinge!! (and I want to look at it too).
Final observations:
With all of the unknowns and possible negatives, don't get me wrong. I want the Fold!
I love being an early adopter and have saved up for this thing. I've been following Samsung over the years and drooling at all of their foldable prototypes.
With Samsung's track record on gorgeous displays, I know I'll love the tablet screen. I think that the small front screen is not a deal breaker because I liken it to my Lock/AOD screen where I glance at information then move on to the larger screen. It will be just one more step to fully open the Fold. Not inconvenient when you know what's coming! A huge, beautiful screen.
The COOL factor for the Fold is priceless! I am so anxious to get it and I know the feeling will continue as others spot the phone and want to check it out.
If the Fold ends up being a fantastic phone for me, then I'll be selling off a few other Tablets I have as well as my N9.
This is going to be Big! Cannot wait to play!
What do you guys think?

I'm just hoping root comes easy and comes quickly. Do you guys think it will be rootable?

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I'm just hoping root comes easy and comes quickly. Do you guys think it will be rootable?
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Based off of the limited amount of people that will buy and have this device probably not, but I could be wrong ?

I'll miss the spen even though I don't use it that often, but the main thing I'll miss about that functionality is being able to capture video as an animated gif (I don't know if this exists on the S series as I've only used Notes as far as Samsung's go). I'll probably use my old Wacom dumb capacitive stylus that's been sitting a drawer for a few years for the simple diagrams I draw in meetings using One note. It did the trick when I used to use an iPad all of the time.
The small screen might get irritating if I want to tap out a message as I already find it difficult using something as small as an iPhone SE. Although with keyboard customisation maybe bigger keys can make that easier.
The notch doesn't really bother me. A hole punch would be equally as distracting as a notch to me on a regular phone, but in a screen that big I can't see it being a problem.
I'm definitely changing the scaling and fitting more on that display. Apparently that's how you get many apps to use tablet mode rather than a big phone layout, so I'll be really happy if that's actually true. But I'd set my mind on getting one even before I heard about that so I won't mind if it doesn't work on everything.
I haven't seen whether Dex is available in tablet mode as it is on the larger Samsung tablets. That would be a killer app for me. I know we can use up to 3 apps, but it's not the same as having a few windows layered and tapping between them, especially if you're copying and pasting between a few documents and you want that bigger layout on each to see text placement properly. Maybe someone will manage to extract and develop an apk that doesn't require root for that.
With regards to the above, I used to have a Toshiba PDA that ran Windows Mobile and with it's 800x600 display you could change the screen scaling and achieve a similar effect. It was pretty great.
The thing I'm mainly looking forward to is reducing my travel kit from a phone, tablet, and kindle to just one device. Ok maybe not just one device, I'll have room for my Switch more often now. Airport security love giving my bags an extra search due to all of the gadgets I end up carrying, and hopefully this will mean I just sail through like most other people.
And while it may be an elitist prick move, I want people to notice it. Most friends and colleagues know I'm a tech geek, but nobody notices the tech anymore, as all of the phones and tablets look so similar. They don't realise it's something new or cool and don't ask. Plus, nowadays all it involves is showing off something a bit faster with more storage and a better camera. Nothing has done anything new for years now. This brings back that wow factor when new phones had something brand new and sparks conversation about the future again.

The US devices will have locked bootloaders just like the other US Samsung devices. Unless I've missed it there is no word on international devices yet. If you're like me and root is a necessity you might want to consider waiting until the situation is sorted out.
Edit... One other thing I ran into today in regards to a potential S-pen is that a reviewer was opining the screen was too soft to support writing. That was a stated opinion not a fact from Samsung. So a guess but not an unreasonable one; It isn't hard to imagine the screen not being able to hold up to a pen.

Here’s an important notice for current and future Galaxy Fold owners
https://www.sammobile.com/2019/04/1...portant-notice/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
SAMSUNG GALAXY FOLD ??????

Where did you see the info regarding Samsung pay? Can't find any info about that

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Where did you see the info regarding Samsung pay? Can't find any info about that
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The specs on Samsung.com for the Fold only show NFC for Samsung Pay. They did the same thing on the Galaxy Watches.
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I'm just hoping root comes easy and comes quickly. Do you guys think it will be rootable?
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Doubtful on AT&T or T-MO devices... You know it's always that locked bootloader thing in US phones.
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AlanJC said:
I'll miss the spen even though I don't use it that often, but the main thing I'll miss about that functionality is being able to capture video as an animated gif (I don't know if this exists on the S series as I've only used Notes as far as Samsung's go). I'll probably use my old Wacom dumb capacitive stylus that's been sitting a drawer for a few years for the simple diagrams I draw in meetings using One note. It did the trick when I used to use an iPad all of the time.
The small screen might get irritating if I want to tap out a message as I already find it difficult using something as small as an iPhone SE. Although with keyboard customisation maybe bigger keys can make that easier.
The notch doesn't really bother me. A hole punch would be equally as distracting as a notch to me on a regular phone, but in a screen that big I can't see it being a problem.
I'm definitely changing the scaling and fitting more on that display. Apparently that's how you get many apps to use tablet mode rather than a big phone layout, so I'll be really happy if that's actually true. But I'd set my mind on getting one even before I heard about that so I won't mind if it doesn't work on everything.
I haven't seen whether Dex is available in tablet mode
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Looks like we'll still be able to create a gif from a video (you could still have done it on the S9's too). Here's a tutorial for the S10's so I'm sure the Fold will be able to make one too:
https://www.phonearena.com/news/How...or-S10e-without-downloading-any-apps_id115228
Also, it is Dex ready/capable.
Great points you've made in your response! Thx!
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The specs on Samsung.com for the Fold only show NFC for Samsung Pay. They did the same thing on the Galaxy Watches.
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It has MST, confirmed.
"Credit & debit cards: supports MST and/or NFC"
Source: https://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-fold/specs/

Bjray said:
It has MST, confirmed.
"Credit & debit cards: supports MST and/or NFC"
Source: https://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-fold/specs/
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This would be great! I'm wondering if it's for Non US Folds. I'm hoping it's for everyone. I wish I had the eSim/nano sim option but not with my carrier (AT&T).
MST not listed in their specs but hopefully it's just incorrect. Thank you for the clarification.
https://www.att.com/buy/phones/samsung-galaxy-fold-512gb-space-silver.html
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good that was almost a dealbreaker!!! no MST , because NFC hasnt really caught on the way they promised 6 years ago... at least not in places i frequent.

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You're kidding, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxkAVnl6RVw&list=PLLjWNJiWtHZV-rqGklsgrjoK1ssOJfvrE&index=6

I'm out of here. I'm a rooter and right now I'm now feeling the love with dropping 2k on this device and then killing the warranty. This isn't a complaint per se, it's just not the right tree to be sniffing around for those like me that will most def flog the thing. I do hope all who buy in enjoy the bejesus out of themselves. Good luck gents.

nique0201 said:
good that was almost a dealbreaker!!! no MST , because NFC hasnt really caught on the way they promised 6 years ago... at least not in places i frequent.
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I was just reading AT&T version of the manual & no mention of MST, only NFC. THAT would be stupid to me & I'd really miss it.
http://downloadcenter.samsung....d_EN_UM_P_9.0_040919_FINAL.pdf
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