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Google Wallet?

Anyone know if Google Wallet will be able to be ported over to the Galaxy Nexus? I'm going to miss being able to use my phone to pay for things, as I've grown somewhat accustomed to being able to do it. lol I love going to Dairy Queen, or Best Buy, or the drug store and just tapping my phone. I'd love to be able to do it on the Galaxy Nexus.

mysterioustko said:
Anyone know if Google Wallet will be able to be ported over to the Galaxy Nexus? I'd love to be able to do it on the Galaxy Nexus.
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Should not need to be ported, GNex has NFC

NFC is just a chip. You still need the software to use it. For example, I used Google Wallet on my Nexus S (which has a NFC chip). Without software to use the NFC chip with, it's useless. In other words, you have to have some sort of payment software on the phone in order to make use of the NFC as a form of payment.

Lightning N1 said:
Should not need to be ported, GNex has NFC
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NFC is a chip. Google Wallet is an app that lets you use NFC for payments.
For example, only the Sprint Nexus S 4G officially has google wallet. The T-mo Nexus S doesn't. Neither do the SGSII varieties with NFC.
OP, I'd assume that once they have it working for ICS they'll make it happen with an update, but I'm not sure whats holding them from just launching with it.... then again they still haven't given it to the T-mo Nexus S lol so idk what's going on.
I'm really looking forward to Google Wallet too.

While there has been no official announcement, I don't ever think the Verizon version will ever see Google Wallet. Verizon has teamed up with T-Mobile and AT&T to put together Isis, a competitor to Google Wallet. Thats why we only see Google Wallet or Sprint.

martonikaj said:
NFC is a chip. Google Wallet is an app that lets you use NFC for payments.
For example, only the Sprint Nexus S 4G officially has google wallet. The T-mo Nexus S doesn't. Neither do the SGSII varieties with NFC.
OP, I'd assume that once they have it working for ICS they'll make it happen with an update, but I'm not sure whats holding them from just launching with it.... then again they still haven't given it to the T-mo Nexus S lol so idk what's going on.
I'm really looking forward to Google Wallet too.
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Well I have a T-mobile Nexus S that I use Google wallet on. Of course it isn't officially supported, but they ported it over from the Sprint Nexus S. I was just holding out hope that it might be possible to bring it to the Galaxy Nexus. lol of course this is just a hope. I'm not sure what libs or framework is needed for it to work.

mysterioustko said:
Well I have a T-mobile Nexus S that I use Google wallet on. Of course it isn't officially supported, but they ported it over from the Sprint Nexus S. I was just holding out hope that it might be possible to bring it to the Galaxy Nexus. lol of course this is just a hope. I'm not sure what libs or framework is needed for it to work.
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I get a little miffed every time I see a google wallet enabled payment system and I can't use it on my TMo nexus s 'officially'.
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[hfm] said:
I get a little miffed every time I see a google wallet enabled payment system and I can't use it on my TMo nexus s 'officially'.
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Yeah you would think that "officially" you'd be able to do it. Heck all Google would have to do is just put the app in the market to be downloaded and they wouldn't have to deal with the carriers at all (I think lol). But hey, gotta love the guys here at XDA, that got us around all that and brought it to the tmobile nexus. I'm just hoping it can be done on the Galaxy Nexus too.

Consider yourselves lucky that you can even use a hacked version on your phones.
What about us poor saps in Australia who can install the app and use it, but can't add any funds to it. I really don't understand why Google choose to operate like this.

Niksko said:
Consider yourselves lucky that you can even use a hacked version on your phones.
What about us poor saps in Australia who can install the app and use it, but can't add any funds to it. I really don't understand why Google choose to operate like this.
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Perhaps there are legal issues with it. I have no idea. I just wish a standard would be established already so that we can use it in our day to day. I love using my phone to pay for things! lol

I loved wallet on my tmobile nexus
It worked flawlessly
I was hoping for a gs2 port but that never took place.
Why wouldnt the flagship device for google have wallet pre installed ?
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Is wallet available outside the US? If not, then it may not be on the gsm version since it's not being sold in the states.
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fdm1 said:
Is wallet available outside the US? If not, then it may not be on the gsm version since it's not being sold in the states.
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It's a US-only service, yes. It's just an app so nothing is stopping them from supporting it on the GSM/HSPA version.

I thought the Google Wallet app just makes sure the credit card data travels a save way from the NFC sender to NFC receiver. I don't see how it'd be US-centric, when there's no mobile data involved in the transaction, since Google said that it doesn't require a data connection.
Also, I've read people in Germany using their German T-Mobile Nexus S to pay at the very few Paypass terminals in that country.

Tom Servo said:
I thought the Google Wallet app just makes sure the credit card data travels a save way from the NFC sender to NFC receiver. I don't see how it'd be US-centric, when there's no mobile data involved in the transaction, since Google said that it doesn't require a data connection.
Also, I've read people in Germany using their German T-Mobile Nexus S to pay at the very few Paypass terminals in that country.
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I meant it as in "the service is currently available in the US only". As far as I know Google has only officially launched the service in the US as of yet. That could just have been a marketing thing though. I'm not sure if it works fine if a seller outside the US just plugs in a comatible NFC-enabled terminal.

Actually, the relevant standard is called Paypass and used outside of the US. In Europe, there's various sort of cards being distributed by Visa, Mastercard and sorts. But apparently there's a RFID version of Paypass, and a superset that does NFC. The current distributed cards are RFID. But there appear to be NFC capable terminals in at least Germany.
From what I could gather, Google Wallet does Paypass NFC. It seems mostly a matter of getting it to install and run on a phone that's not the Spring Nexus S.

Tom Servo said:
Actually, the relevant standard is called Paypass and used outside of the US. In Europe, there's various sort of cards being distributed by Visa, Mastercard and sorts. But apparently there's a RFID version of Paypass, and a superset that does NFC. The current distributed cards are RFID. But there appear to be NFC capable terminals in at least Germany.
From what I could gather, Google Wallet does Paypass NFC. It seems mostly a matter of getting it to install and run on a phone that's not the Spring Nexus S.
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Interesting. So it's nothing specific needed on the merchant's side other than an NFC-compatible paypass terminal? How does the service work software wise? They could very well have limits on the cards you can use it with.
You might want to check this out.

sitnlow4life said:
I loved wallet on my tmobile nexus
It worked flawlessly
I was hoping for a gs2 port but that never took place.
Why wouldnt the flagship device for google have wallet pre installed ?
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This is the same thing that I was thinking. This is supposed to be the flagship device...you'd think it would already have Wallet on it...or at least have it available.

Here's a 17-yo Brit's contribution to this (and his first ever to the Android communication - received my first Android phone 3 days ago!):
Google Wallet can be "enticed" to run on the Galaxy Nexus. I'm still waiting for an attempt to test it, so we may find out if it works on Monday.
I used the "googlewalletfix_1.1R38v5_ICS_aok.zip" file (no credit to me - found it elsewhere on these forums) - I did the following (with MoDaCo custom ROM):
Flashed MoDaCo, flashed googlewalletfix, reboot to "proper"
Found Google Wallet wasn't installed
Open root terminal, cd to /mnt/sdcard/gw/
mount -o remount,rw /data/system
cp system/app/NfcGoogle.apk /system/app/NfcGoogle.apk # this is probably a terrible, terrible thing to do to your phone. Turn NFC off first and cross your fingers!
cp system/app/Wallet.apk /system/app/Wallet.apk
I saw some logcat entries telling me it was doing something with my newly positioned apk and lo-and-behold, Wallet was installed and would allow me to get a prepaid Google card!
I attached some pretty pictures taken using the Dalvik Debug Monitor.

lukegb said:
Here's a 17-yo Brit's contribution to this (and his first ever to the Android communication - received my first Android phone 3 days ago!):
Google Wallet can be "enticed" to run on the Galaxy Nexus. I'm still waiting for an attempt to test it, so we may find out if it works on Monday.
I used the "googlewalletfix_1.1R38v5_ICS_aok.zip" file (no credit to me - found it elsewhere on these forums) - I did the following (with MoDaCo custom ROM):
Flashed MoDaCo, flashed googlewalletfix, reboot to "proper"
Found Google Wallet wasn't installed
Open root terminal, cd to /mnt/sdcard/gw/
mount -o remount,rw /data/system
cp system/app/NfcGoogle.apk /system/app/NfcGoogle.apk # this is probably a terrible, terrible thing to do to your phone. Turn NFC off first and cross your fingers!
cp system/app/Wallet.apk /system/app/Wallet.apk
I saw some logcat entries telling me it was doing something with my newly positioned apk and lo-and-behold, Wallet was installed and would allow me to get a prepaid Google card!
I attached some pretty pictures taken using the Dalvik Debug Monitor.
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Great work! Anyone willing to try this to see if it works? I'd try it but I don't have my Galaxy Nexus yet (thanks to Handtec....). Great to see progress being made so quickly.

at&t ISIS discussion

I haven't seen this topic show up on this forum and I had a couple of questions so...... im very interested to know what you guys think of AT&T's upcoming NFC program ISIS? Also does anyone know when we can expect it to be available?

AFAIK its launched in two area atm like a pilot program i believe on of the areas is texas the other then name escapes me.

DJSYNTHVIRUS said:
AFAIK its launched in two area atm like a pilot program i believe on of the areas is texas the other then name escapes me.
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I didn't know that thanks! Im hoping it will be useful.

I just find it stupid that AT&T is dumping Google Wallet in favor of a system that isn't even ready yet.
Way to give us NFC without it really being useful. (I mean, there's Android Beam, which is cool, but not really useful...)

Xodium said:
I just find it stupid that AT&T is dumping Google Wallet in favor of a system that isn't even ready yet.
Way to give us NFC without it really being useful. (I mean, there's Android Beam, which is cool, but not really useful...)
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Classic AT&T fail...

It really isn't a fail on AT&T's part. Google Wallet isn't doing that fantastic, especially with how few companies are accepting it. Yea, ISIS isn't ready to go yet, however I live in SLC, one of the main areas that ISIS will be launching at in the summer, and at least 1 in 3 stores has already signed on and started preparing for the switch, UTA (the transit system out here) has also signed on and are making adjustments. Once ISIS is out, it will have a much stronger chance of doing well right out of the gate compared to Google Wallet.
Yes, it required a delay for AT&T users before we get to use NFC for payments, however choosing to back a program that now has a strong backing from companies as well as banks/credit card providers, ISIS really was a good decision.
Sure they could have put their eggs in both baskets, but that probably wouldn't have worked out too well, after all, one of the two would have tried to force them into one corner or the other.

It is not just AT&T. The whole ISIS initiative is a joint venture between AT&T, T-mobile, and Verizon. That is why when the Google Wallet first launched it could only be used on the Samsung Galaxy Nexus from Sprint.

orionl said:
It really isn't a fail on AT&T's part. Google Wallet isn't doing that fantastic, especially with how few companies are accepting it. Yea, ISIS isn't ready to go yet, however I live in SLC, one of the main areas that ISIS will be launching at in the summer, and at least 1 in 3 stores has already signed on and started preparing for the switch, UTA (the transit system out here) has also signed on and are making adjustments. Once ISIS is out, it will have a much stronger chance of doing well right out of the gate compared to Google Wallet.
Yes, it required a delay for AT&T users before we get to use NFC for payments, however choosing to back a program that now has a strong backing from companies as well as banks/credit card providers, ISIS really was a good decision.
Sure they could have put their eggs in both baskets, but that probably wouldn't have worked out too well, after all, one of the two would have tried to force them into one corner or the other.
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Yes, this is also true. People are blaming just their networks, but Google is at fault here too. They have been very slow in everything that relates to Google Wallet. Getting retailer support isn't actually a problem for Wallet, since it uses PayPass which is already quite popular. But getting more support for phones, especially internationally, is very important, and Google have failed badly at this.

LoveNFC said:
Yes, this is also true. People are blaming just their networks, but Google is at fault here too. They have been very slow in everything that relates to Google Wallet. Getting retailer support isn't actually a problem for Wallet, since it uses PayPass which is already quite popular. But getting more support for phones, especially internationally, is very important, and Google have failed badly at this.
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Not to mention the fact that Google didn't really pursue adding more carriers early on. First they wanted extensive testing to insure it was ready for a large scale launch. Unfortunately by the time they were ready to bring in everyone else, T-Mobile, Verizon and AT&T had decided not to wait but instead to help start up something new. Honestly, I'm excited because ISIS looks very promising.
Blaming AT&T, or for that matter any carrier other than Sprint, or not waiting on Google to let them in on G-Wallet is kinda pointless, after all no business wants to wait, they want to get in on the action and try to beat the competition.

Google is just piggy back ridding off of PayPass. I'm positive Google Wallet will be accepted by every NFC payment system.
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DannyB513 said:
It is not just AT&T. The whole ISIS initiative is a joint venture between AT&T, T-mobile, and Verizon. That is why when the Google Wallet first launched it could only be used on the Samsung Galaxy Nexus from Sprint.
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A slight correction - Google Wallet launched on the Nexus S 4G on Sprint in ~September 2011 via an OTA.

There are a few things to understand about the release and development of an application like this.
1) To release an application you have to have it available to devices.
- AT&T, Verizon, and TMobile have basically stopped the release of this app by preventing it from being installed on over 80% of the phones in the US.
2) Wallet is just as good as any other app out there, and could be better with a large company like Google behind it.
- Knowing that they would not be able to install on the majority of phones, development probably got put on the back burner.
3) AT&T, Verizon and TMobile in may ways have jointly killed the Wallet project since Google decided not to go to court to fight for the app to be released on their networks.
4) The Wallet application CAN run on any network, it is just software.
5) In no way is Google responsible for the success or lack of it with Wallet. In this case, they tried to release it with the intention of having it on all Nexus phones and the carriers stopped it.

crimsonconcepts said:
5) In no way is Google responsible for the success or lack of it with Wallet. In this case, they tried to release it with the intention of having it on all Nexus phones and the carriers stopped it.
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Google are not obliged to block Wallet from showing up in the Play Store for certain networks. Like you said, Wallet will work on any network.
Apple would have no trouble installing their own Wallet solution, regardless of the networks' reluctance. It's because Google are '*****es' to the networks - they do whatever the networks tell them to. That's why their own 'pure' Google devices like the Verizon Nexus have bloat and branding on them. That's never been the case with Apple. Apple puts their foot down, and the networks have no choice but to comply with Apple. It's not the same for Google. They're pushovers.
Google could of course release Wallet in the European markets, where they already have money handling licences for the web version of Google Wallet and where consumers aren't so heavily reliant on networks when purchasing phones. But they haven't done this.
So, yes, the eventual failure of Google Wallet will be down to Google.

Google Wallet - Tap and Pay

Will Google Wallet Tap and Pay work on Galaxy Note 4?

gabbar21 said:
Will Google Wallet Tap and Pay work on Galaxy Note 4?
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Yes. Of course, it has NFC.

gabbar21 said:
Will Google Wallet Tap and Pay work on Galaxy Note 4?
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More than likely the tap-to-pay feature from Google Wallet will be locked like the Note 3. Everything else from the Google Wallet app will work just fine, except for the tap-to-pay feature. You can blame SoftCard (formally ISIS) for this. Well, really it's the 4 major US carriers, who are all in contract with Softcard, blocking this tap-to-pay feature. Why would they allow a competitor into the fold?

gabbar21 said:
Will Google Wallet Tap and Pay work on Galaxy Note 4?
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matrix2004 said:
Yes. Of course, it has NFC.
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Tap to pay has been blocked since the Note 2 unfortunately. They took away access to the secure element, and now the secure element has been moved to the sim, which of course is controlled by the carrier (read softcard)

Someone reported in another thread that Google Wallet works on their AT&T LG G3 - so here is hoping.

msherman123 said:
Someone reported in another thread that Google Wallet works on their AT&T LG G3 - so here is hoping.
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Works great on my G3. Hope it works great on my Note 4.

zoso28 said:
Tap to pay has been blocked since the Note 2 unfortunately. They took away access to the secure element, and now the secure element has been moved to the sim, which of course is controlled by the carrier (read softcard)
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This is not true anymore. Any device running kitkat will do tap n pay. They changed Wallet to remove carriers ability to block it. Many will bring up issues with the Note 3, but with the very last update, even it became compatible. The odds of tap n pay working on the Note 4 are about 99.9% in my opinion.

boufa said:
This is not true anymore. Any device running kitkat will do tap n pay. They changed Wallet to remove carriers ability to block it. Many will bring up issues with the Note 3, but with the very last update, even it became compatible. The odds of tap n pay working on the Note 4 are about 99.9% in my opinion.
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That's great news! I'm not into Nexus's so I just gave up on it after the Note 2 but I'd love to use it again on the 4.. Guess we'll know in a week

I have At&t note 4 and I have tap and pay.

Yep, it's now working on the Note 4! I can even switch back and forth between SoftCard (formally ISIS) and Google Wallet within Android's settings to set the default tap-to-pay service. Yes!

Google wallet?

Does tap and pay work properly on the Verizon Note 4? It won't work on my Note 2.

Used it just fine at Walgreens yesterday.

razortaz18 said:
Does tap and pay work properly on the Verizon Note 4? It won't work on my Note 2.
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Yup used it at Panera bread the other day.

Great. Thanks guys. I can't wait to finally use it.

razortaz18 said:
Does tap and pay work properly on the Verizon Note 4? It won't work on my Note 2.
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Yes, bout a soda at a machine with it last weekend.

Works with the VERIZON note 4 (ie SM-N910V) ? I don't even see the option to use tap and pay.. And everything I have read leads me to believe that it doesn't work. Can you post a 'how to' set it up? Thanks...
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You need to have NFC turned on for tap & Pay to work...

Disregard, found the settings... And yes, my nfc was on

Not sd ure then. I have a note 4. Installed Wallet from Google plsy, everything works .

Now that it's working places are killing nfc cause of apple pay. Check out CurrentC it's major places trying to get there own inhouse payments using QR. CVS and rite aid have write up in news. GW started it working great then things get stalled because of carriers and GW. Carriers build their own softcard (isis) funny have to rename cause matches terrorist group. Now the stores want a piece to bypass credit card charges and allow them direct access to you back accounts. People are reviewing the CurrentC app in both apple and google stores as 1 star. News is saying for once apple and android people agree on something lol.
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Tried it at CVS yesterday...didn't work. CVS has turned it off.

Wallet working for me no problem at Duane Reede and BP gas station

Android Pay is incompatible with Note 3.. So now what?

Got the email from google telling me that they have switched to Android pay and the link to download it via the play store. I get the message that my device is not compatible with it when I get to the play store. Pretty sure I am not the only one who is frustrated with this. Hoped it will get baked in when google bought softcard (ISIS). Tried side loading the apk, but i just get the message that it is unavailable when i try to open the app.:crying::crying::crying:

I actually called Google about it, asking specifically if it would work, even giving "Ross" the heads up that wallet tap to pay never did. He assured me it would, of course it doesn't, I replied to him letting him know. Will be interesting to see what he comes back with.

DesperateScorpion said:
Got the email from google telling me that they have switched to Android pay and the link to download it via the play store. I get the message that my device is not compatible with it when I get to the play store. Pretty sure I am not the only one who is frustrated with this. Hoped it will get baked in when google bought softcard (ISIS). Tried side loading the apk, but i just get the message that it is unavailable when i try to open the app.:crying::crying::crying:
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It must be a T-Mobile thing. Sprint Note 3 has it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-sprint/general/android-pay-error-rooted-devices-t3204203
Were you rooted when you tried to install? For the initial install you must be unrooted. But showing incompatible on Play sounds like a carrier issue to me.

Did anyone ever get NFC working on their T-Mobile Note 3? I never could. Which sucks balls because I really want to do away with carrying so many pieces of plastic.

KennyG123 said:
It must be a T-Mobile thing. Sprint Note 3 has it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-sprint/general/android-pay-error-rooted-devices-t3204203
Were you rooted when you tried to install? For the initial install you must be unrooted. But showing incompatible on Play sounds like a carrier issue to me.
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It might be carrier related. Tmobile, AT&T and Verizon were the backers for Softcard in the beginning. You had to have Softcard compatible sim cards to use the payment features of softcard. I dont have the same sim card anymore, not sure if that will make a difference.
Rooted or not, you dont have access to the app on the app store.

Any luck on this issue.?
I did call Google and they told me that since my phone was used with softcard it cannot be used with Apple Pay.

I thought Android Pay would supersede Softcard since Google bought the thing... I think someone should call T-Mobile as well and ask them how else can we make NFC payments with everything not functional.

Tmobil official word
I called T mobile and tech support said Note 3 ( and several others) are NOT compatible.
Tech is updating all the customer support cheet sheets so no one else has to go through this with them.
Somehow I just knew this Pay app fiasco (ISIS, etc) would end badly for us.. If the greedy corporate SOB's would have just gone with Google in the first place.. I hope they learned something
Is a class action in the cards for NOTE 3 owners ?? Any Lawyers out there ?

I installed Android Pay through the APK mirror APK, it installed perfectly with no errors and detected my NFC. I'm using the AT&T Note 3 (4.4.4 KitKat) ( N900a). I just need some place to test it now.

Keep us posted. Glad to see note 3 still kicking it.

Installed it on my note 3 tmobile bit I use cricket with it. Can't test it or anything as the rom I have from ages ago nfc won't turn on

futty said:
Installed it on my note 3 tmobile bit I use cricket with it. Can't test it or anything as the rom I have from ages ago nfc won't turn on
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Android pay refuses to work if it detects that a device has been rooted. I switched back to the official Android 5.0 lollipop release for my Note 3 and Android pay works with no issues. I have added cards and successfully completed several purchases.
I did replace my battery last year, my current battery is an official Samsung battery manufactured in November 2015. Since some of the NFC hardware is in the battery this may have have helped my success with Android pay on my Galaxy Note 3