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[Q] For the brave developers. Assure view without spen

I love GMD spen gesture controlling app.
Samsung has made things in these phones that the finger touch will not work when spen is on screen. It's pretty much super and useful. But, I saw GMD gesture controlling app working while I'm writing in the screen with spen. It's an error. But here I'm not asking you to fix it. I appreciate it, because you could do it with your app. Now what I need is that, air view feature without spen. The Note series models (NOTE2, 10.1,8) uses the same features that xperia sola or today's release, s4 for the air view. So I think that Samsung had restricted finger air view feature for the promotion of spen, same as restricting finger touch while s pen in use. Since GMD gesture controlling app could remove the restriction of finger touch while spen in use, I hope that you could do this too(air view without spen). so I request you to try it. So can you?

I guess bumping up the touch sensitivity could do it.
But there are two problems:
1. I don't know if the sensitivity on our device can go that high.
2. There is no supported software. You won't get previews as the software on the Note 2 is build for Air View by the S Pen, and would not recognize Air View with a finger.

But, s4 has same technology..
DubelBoom said:
there is no supported software. You won't get previews as the software on the Note 2 is build for Air View by the S Pen, and would not recognize Air View with a finger.
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But, s4 and note 2 shows same software features in air view. S4 is by hand and note2 by s pen. Also, the technology is same. What I guess is that Samsung would make it happen in next update. But I wish to get it early. The update will take2 months or so long. They will need s4 to click the ground.

Take a look at this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2190830
Edit: Most of the features announced for the S4 will not come to previous devices like Note I & II and the S3. Not officially anyway, because that would harm S4 sales.
So...don't count on official airview on the Note 2, ever.
Maybe Note 3!

ashiqrafa said:
But, s4 and note 2 shows same software features in air view. S4 is by hand and note2 by s pen. Also, the technology is same. What I guess is that Samsung would make it happen in next update. But I wish to get it early. The update will take2 months or so long. They will need s4 to click the ground.
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But the software wouldn't know what to do with the finger hovering, devs will need to rewrite parts (if possible, I'm not sure) so the app would pop the text/image/anything else.

Always, the profit is for Samsung
Intruder7s said:
most of the features announced for the S4 will not come to previous devices like Note I & II and the S3. Not officially anyway, because that would harm S4 sales.
So...don't count on official airview on the Note 2, ever.
Maybe Note 3!
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No it's not the truth. If companies fear such type of sale affection, apple wouldn't have provided the iOS6 update for previous iPhone models. The note 2 released with unique multi window feature and see currently the previous released s3 and note 1 got it. Also, if Samsung fears the affection for their super phone, then they wouldn't have released the galaxy grand. We should think things in the other way, if the update bring same features of s4 to note 2, n2 is going to be the best with unique spen features. It may affect the sales of s4, but it never affect the profit if Samsung. Whatever the model is, phone is of Samsung's.

Intruder7s said:
Take a look at this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2190830
Edit: Most of the features announced for the S4 will not come to previous devices like Note I & II and the S3. Not officially anyway, because that would harm S4 sales.
So...don't count on official airview on the Note 2, ever.
Maybe Note 3!
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Any source and note 2 features like air view came to note 1 and s3 also then why we will not get s4 features?? Maybe we will get it after some months or so...

The S3 does not have air view.
@OP
Note 2 is bigger and has double the RAM of the S3. Plus the S- Pen.
So they have no fear to also boost S3 a bit as well.
But the S3 and S4 do not have many differences in hardware with each other so Samsung has to make them a bit different also software wise as well as hardware wise because the hardware is not improved enough for an S3 owner to make the jump.
This is my thinking.

Intruder7s said:
The S3 does not have air view.
@OP
Note 2 is bigger and has double the RAM of the S3. Plus the S- Pen.
So they have no fear to also boost S3 a bit as well.
But the S3 and S4 do not have many differences in hardware with each other so Samsung has to make them a bit different also software wise as well as hardware wise because the hardware is not improved enough for an S3 owner to make the jump.
This is my thinking.
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But Samsung released galaxy grand at lower price specs same as s3. for Samsung, all those are not a problem. If they consider so, then they wouldn't have released the updated touchwiz upgrade for note1. Note 1 and note2 look pretty similar.

Intruder7s said:
The S3 does not have air view.
@OP
Note 2 is bigger and has double the RAM of the S3. Plus the S- Pen.
So they have no fear to also boost S3 a bit as well.
But the S3 and S4 do not have many differences in hardware with each other so Samsung has to make them a bit different also software wise as well as hardware wise because the hardware is not improved enough for an S3 owner to make the jump.
This is my thinking.
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Ya because it did not have stylus spen.if u try note stylus it will have that..I think lets stop this ..it will be great if samsung provide us the update all will be happy

Samsung will release an update by the end of may that is after two months of s4 launch.
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i think it is possible on the s4 beacause it has a more sensitive touch(u can use it with gloves)... and that is a hardware feature, so it is not likely that our note 2 will have it ever...

Can anybody help me to get this feature? I want to open popup note without using s pen's done tap. What I mean is a way to add shortcut in home screen

thez3ro said:
i think it is possible on the s4 beacause it has a more sensitive touch(u can use it with gloves)... and that is a hardware feature, so it is not likely that our note 2 will have it ever...
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Samsung vp confirms that s3 will get features like air touch with the help of front camera maybe.
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[Q] Note 4 Same as Note Edge?

I have decided to drink the coolaid and dump AT&T and move to the dark side, being Verizon. Looking at their phones, I do like the look of the Note Edge. I cannot find anything on XDA about the Note Edge. I was just wondering if it is the same (other than the screen) hardware wise as the Note 4. My hope is that if they are so similar, something that works for the Note 4 will work for the Note Edge?? Or should I get the Note 4 and pretend I never saw the Edge?? Any help/advice?? Thanks!

Avenger1 said:
I have decided to dink the coolaid and dump AT&T and move to the dark side, being Verizon. Looking at their phones, I do like the look of the Note Edge. I cannot find anything on XDA about the Note Edge. I was just wondering if it is the same (other than the screen) hardware wise as the Note 4. My hope is that if they are so similar, something that works for the Note 4 will work for the Note Edge?? Or should I get the Note 4 and pretend I never saw the Edge?? Any help/advice?? Thanks!
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ZERO chance of anything from the Note 4 working on the Edge and vice versa until they get root.

They are definitely not the same...there is another thread that confirms the edge cannot support simultaneous voice and data today...not until VoLTE. Deal breaker.

So I should go with the Note 4 then? If I decide to stay with Samsung??
I know root is not available for the Note 4, yet. But I am keeping my hopes high that it will be soon. That is, if I go with the Note 4.
I have been a Samsung fanboy since the Galaxy S, I have not even paid attention to other manufactures. What would someone suggest that IS root capable that is similar to the Note 4? Anything?

Avenger1 said:
So I should go with the Note 4 then? If I decide to stay with Samsung??
I know root is not available for the Note 4, yet. But I am keeping my hopes high that it will be soon. That is, if I go with the Note 4.
I have been a Samsung fanboy since the Galaxy S, I have not even paid attention to other manufactures. What would someone suggest that IS root capable that is similar to the Note 4? Anything?
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Nothing available from Verizon, I'm pretty sure the S5 and M8 are your only choices for rootable retail phones. If you want root with the Note 4 you will have to buy a developer edition directly from Samsung for about $700.00. If you go thru Verizon the choice would be what features you like more with the Edge or Note 4. I'm sure the data and voice thing will be fixed with the Edge, it's just a matter of time. No root is available for either but it seems the Note 4 is getting more attention in that respect. I don't like the sidebar on the Edge but that's my personal taste.

Misterxtc said:
Nothing available from Verizon, I'm pretty sure the S5 and M8 are your only choices for rootable retail phones. If you want root with the Note 4 you will have to buy a developer edition directly from Samsung for about $700.00. If you go thru Verizon the choice would be what features you like more with the Edge or Note 4. I'm sure the data and voice thing will be fixed with the Edge, it's just a matter of time. No root is available for either but it seems the Note 4 is getting more attention in that respect. I don't like the sidebar on the Edge but that's my personal taste.
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the LG G3 is also "unlockable" and rootable. With a 5.5" QHD display it's probably the closest to the Note 4 in specs, but LG's are different animals than Samungs. I actually am selling my G3 to get a Note 4 DE.

To throw a whole other wrench in your decision. If your considering the Dev N4 but really like the Edge... Well Samsung has a -coming soon- page for Edge Dev Edition. So that might hit the market soon.

Only bad thing I have read about the developer edition is only a 30 day warranty or none if you change any of the factory settings.

Well, I did it. I took the wife into Verizon today and switched from AT&T to Verizon. My wife got the Apple Iphone 6 and I got the Samsung Note 4. Although, since they did not have the colors we wanted (black) we have to wait until next week before we can actually switch.
That said, I decided that I did not like the Note Edge, is it not an upgrade from the 4... move of a side shuffle. The side screen, bar thing, is gimicky and I dont think I would see a use for it.
I just hope now, that root comes soon for the Note 4, as this will be the first time I have actually used a STOCK phone since the S1. Thank you to all!!

ROMS for the S6 vs. ROMS for the S6 EDGE

Is there a reason why there are a handfull of cool ROMS for the S6 but near as I can tell, only about 2 or 3 for the EDGE. And even those 2 or 3 are plain looking.
I also seen a thread about if someone could use an S6 ROM on an S6 EDGE phone. The answer was yes, BUT would that break the EDGE or can one just download EDGE apps from the Play Store to re-activate it again?
The lack of Cool fancy ROMS depresses me about the EDGE. Otherwise I love the phone.

So out of 76 Views, no one has any insight on why there seems to be a lack of EDGE Development?
Or no one has any insight on if flashing an S6 ROM would work on an EDGE and if it does work, would it break the EDGE functionality or render it useless until such time that you manually download EDGE apps to get it working again?

S7 v Note 5

I played with the s7 and edge today at Best Buy. Wow. Beautiful and you can feel they are an evolution from the Note 5 and s6. I can't wait to see how they take that design and implement it into the Note 6.

I have a S7 Edge on pre-order... I can't wait!

I was at BestBuy today and played with the S7 and S7 Edge for a while. I was not impressed at all. The physical appearance is not much different than the S6. I compared it to my Note 5, and I just don't see significant different in performance. Perhaps, the S7 demo unit is not yet well polished? But, I don't see any reason to upgrade, let just say not worth the upgrade. At least not for me.
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Not worth the upgrade from my Note 5, basically the S7 is a copy of Note 5 with just a few improvement, not saying that S7 is not good, i am sure it is, but to upgrade my Note 5, i will wait on Note 6 which will be way better then S7, or if not to impress on the Note 6, then I'll hold on to my Note 5 till next year for the Note 7.
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I went to Best Buy today too.
What impressed me the most was how much smaller the S7 Edge is compared to my Note 5.
Yes, I know the screen is 0.2 smaller but the form factor and size was really nice.
The screen appeared a tad bit nicer on s7 Edge and definitely brighter.
Regardless not enough to upgrade for me. I'll keep the Note 5 for now.

Same. Just looking forward to the note6

I was gonna upgrade to the s7 edge, but decided against it after playing with an s6 edge plus. I just don't like the curved screen, distorts 1/4 inch on each side of the screen, and make it really hard to view things.
Neat design, but too annoying for me.
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I agree. I reckon Samsung should create a zoom buttton, like Netflix has, that goes from full screen to just the 'flat' area. It would still look pretty good.

Well for any T-Mobile or Sprint on the S7 or S7 Edge, they finally locked there bootloaders, tightly locked down, no more root for those phone as well there fun in rooting are over, i knew this was gonna happen sooner or later, so now they are in the same boat as AT&T and Verizon is.
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Venom0642 said:
Well for any T-Mobile or Sprint on the S7 or S7 Edge, they finally locked there bootloaders, tightly locked down, no more root for those phone as well there fun in rooting are over, i knew this was gonna happen sooner or later, so now they are in the same boat as AT&T and Verizon is.
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T mobile too? Say it isn't so. Unlike you, I never thought T-mobile would go that route. Sad.

anl2304 said:
T mobile too? Say it isn't so. Unlike you, I never thought T-mobile would go that route. Sad.
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Yeah lots in T-Mobile Forum for S7 and S7 Edge are very pisted, Like i always said nothing lasts for long was a matter of time for it to happen to T-Mobile and Sprint.
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They draw line in sand on play ground.
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My guess on the T-Mobile thing is that it is possible that Samsung Forced their hand. Samsung seems to be trying to take the route of better security screw the dev. community. Kinda disappointing really.
The only real difference I can see that the S7 phones add is adding back the ability to use external storage.
Looks like I will be looking for a different phone manufacturer next go round that isn't completely locked down and doesn't suck. Very disappointing though considering I like the Note series.

No stylus, no want
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I always felt that skipping a generation on Sammy devices is always a better payoff if you can wait. S7 in silver is awful pretty though.
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I have the S7 on Verizon and the Note 5 on AT&T. Nearly no difference besides MM and the always on time/date display. Cameras both are good. S7 a tad better in low light. Note 5 better color reproduction. MicroSD is preference just like the S pen. My note 5 is 64gb so not incredibly important to me. S7 Is more comfortable to hold since it's smaller. Still prefer the larger screen on my note 5.
My verdict is they're nearly the same phone in terms of agility. S7 is what the S6 should have been. Note 5 is still more professional in my book. Just depends on what your use cases are. I use remote desktop from MS and chrome remote desktop daily and the larger screen and S pen make all the difference. I do like the slightly curved glass edges on the display of the S7, which is the single thing I wish the Note 5 did have. I can tell you that you will miss your Note 5 within an hour of using the S7 Due to the smaller screen.
The Edge series is pure gimmick and a complete rip off in terms of pricing.

I couldn't decide so I got both. Damn you AT&T!!!!!!!!
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malickie said:
Looks like I will be looking for a different phone manufacturer next go round that isn't completely locked down and doesn't suck. Very disappointing though considering I like the Note series.
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What are you thinking about getting? I am torn between going back to an iPhone or finding an Android phone that can have bloatware removed and gets updates fast. It seems like you have to compromise on anything you do with Android when you get a carrier branded device.

kahleeb said:
What are you thinking about getting? I am torn between going back to an iPhone or finding an Android phone that can have bloatware removed and gets updates fast. It seems like you have to compromise on anything you do with Android when you get a carrier branded device.
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Debloater works pretty good if you ask me.
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JeSTeRH4CK3D said:
Debloater works pretty good if you ask me.
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That may be true on getting rid of bloatware but then you have to deal with AT&T, or another carrier, and Samsung, or another manufacturer, on getting updates for your device.

I got the Samsung Galaxy S7 edge but is tired of it. Should I change?

Hi
I wonder if I should sell my S7 Edge for this phone? There is much more development going on with faster updates and so on.
Do you think it's a stupid move to sell my S7 Edge and get this phone? Do this phone have any advantages over the S7 edge?
Thanks in advance

no it will be a wise move as well you could save some bucks.

One is awesome but no community for software and modding. The other is cheaper and not as good hardware wise but hey you can flash to your heart's content.

Madhawk1995 said:
One is awesome but no community for software and modding. The other is cheaper and not as good hardware wise but hey you can flash to your heart's content.
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Even better hardware wise . Only the camera is a little bit less. but not bad!

Faspaiso said:
Hi
I wonder if I should sell my S7 Edge for this phone? There is much more development going on with faster updates and so on.
Do you think it's a stupid move to sell my S7 Edge and get this phone? Do this phone have any advantages over the S7 edge?
Thanks in advance
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How much would you sell? You can trade with my op3 tho . Mine is considerably mint in condition, no scratch or whatsoever.

Yep, i get rid of my s7, didn't like the small screen and the feel of it, felt like i was holding a dense rock everytime. Also, got hot and there were no roms for it. OP3 is faster too, one downside is the OP3 doesn't have a comparable screen or camera. The screen colors and resolution are a bit better on the samsung. S7 is also waterproof.

Get a OnePlus 3 if you like tinkering with your smartphone: you'll have good times together.
Stay with S7 Edge if you're anal about display and camera.

Faspaiso said:
Hi
I wonder if I should sell my S7 Edge for this phone? There is much more development going on with faster updates and so on.
Do you think it's a stupid move to sell my S7 Edge and get this phone? Do this phone have any advantages over the S7 edge?
Thanks in advance
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S7 edge is far too superior in terms of cam and battery life. Also screen is way better. I can recommend Op3 if you are planning to buy new phone. I can't surely recommend as replacement of s7 edge. I own both phones!
Another point to add. If u are flasholic love to root and mess around with the phone then Op3 is the best choice. Lots of custom ROMs, no warranty issues if phone is rooted

Giocarro said:
Get a OnePlus 3 if you like tinkering with your smartphone: you'll have good times together.
Stay with S7 Edge if you're anal about display and camera.
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Excuse me sir, anal?

Oneplus3 has a high performance-price ratio.

Faspaiso said:
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I wonder if I should sell my S7 Edge for this phone?
There is much more development going on with faster updates and so on.
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NO ! There is a lot of dev but at the same time there are a lot of people who have issues with their phones after using those new releases
They released a Community Build 3.5.2 and told people to upgrade and try it but nobody could downgrade from that to their stock, people got stuck on 3.5.2 which was not working properly so then they had to release another build after few weeks to fix it as you can see from their official log: 'Fixed community build cannot flash back to official build issue' http://downloads.oneplus.net/devices/oneplus-3/

emptyragnarok said:
S7 edge is far too superior in terms of cam and battery life. Also screen is way better. I can recommend Op3 if you are planning to buy new phone. I can't surely recommend as replacement of s7 edge. I own both phones!
Another point to add. If u are flasholic love to root and mess around with the phone then Op3 is the best choice. Lots of custom ROMs, no warranty issues if phone is rooted
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Well S7 edge is not too superior in term of anything, camera can have slight advantage, but everyone is not a pro photographer to differentiate between the two, and it is not the main thing for most to select a phone, battery life of S7 edge is marginally better but dash charge which is 3 times faster than S7 charger, can give you 50% charge is around 15/20 minutes, which is a real edge.
Screen for both are same, one cannot differentiate which is which, if they dont tell you one is 2k and one is 1080p, its just spec.
OP3 is better looking, no screen accidental touches, no edge real estate loss, no image bending waste, 5 times smoother UI, touchwiz lag avoidance, easy to root and flash and come back to stock, CM 14 and other roms and so on.

AcidNoteZ said:
Excuse me sir, anal?
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Yes, it should mean "very picky" in a funny and informal conversation.
No offence intended, I'm read that expression a few times and thought it was widely known.

Giocarro said:
Yes, it should mean "very picky" in a funny and informal conversation.
No offence intended, I'm read that expression a few times and thought it was widely known.
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Oh okey, my bad then.

Wait for the pixel xl before you decide. If it's sux sell your s7 edge get the oneplus 3

why would you sell your S7 for OP3 - a phone that has a worse screen, battery & camera?