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[Q] TMO Galaxy S II vs Note II?

I have an S2, and considering moving to the Note 2 for the larger screen, quad-core, accepots 64gb SD, & other features etc. ... anybody have a reason why the note 2 would be an unwise move? I haven't checked what kind of custom ROMs are available for the Note 2 yet, but I've been a flash-a-holic on the S2 (now running "The Sith 2" ROM). The only downside I would imagine others saying, is that the larger screen is more of a pocket-full, maybe more clunky to use as phone, but that's not an issue for me.
ALSO, TMO only carries the 16gb version of the Note 2, but there are other models available, but i don't know if their interfaces with the tmo network will work as well as a tmo version.

I'd say it depends on how bad you want it. If you just want it to upgrade, I'd hold out. I went through the same dilemma and decided I'd wait. Mainly because of the strides kernel/ROM development have taken with our phone. Also, the GS4 is supposed to be released in March, which is rumored to have a 5" display.
Obviously the hardware speaks for itself, but from what I understand, especially with the TMO version, the software is clunky and just crappy I'm general on the note. No one seems to want to come out and say it, but the S-pen is a gimmick. Plain and simple. Obviously that can be changed with different ROMs and etc, but I'm curious how much dev attention the note is going to get. Especially with the nexus right around the corner, and as I said, the GS4 only 4-5 months away.

Our phone happens to support 64gb sd cards. I guess the major difference here would be if you want a phone or a phablet. I'm sure each are great/bad in their own ways, I guess you'll just have to read up on a few reviews

I want one, just too damn big for my pockets. Not to mention the sgs2 is way too big already for strapping on your arm and going for a jog. I can't imagine the note 2 on my arm.

Unless you are in a rush I would wait just because of the amount of rumored new phones that are coming out. Although if you are just looking for screen size I don't think any of the rumored phones will be as big as the Note II. One of the reasons I didn't like the Note II at least spec wise was because with a screen that big I would want it to be 1080p. Just my thoughts!

Thank you everybody for your replies. About two weeks ago I pulled the trigger on the TMO Note II and very happy with it.
I'm running this rom, the dev, ptmr3, has given great support and quick personal responses. I use the multi Window way more than I imagined. I'm a writer & the S-pen, gimmick or not, has been very handy at 3am when I need to jot a note in the dark.
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sirdowski said:
I'd say it depends on how bad you want it. If you just want it to upgrade, I'd hold out. I went through the same dilemma and decided I'd wait. Mainly because of the strides kernel/ROM development have taken with our phone. Also, the GS4 is supposed to be released in March, which is rumored to have a 5" display.
Obviously the hardware speaks for itself, but from what I understand, especially with the TMO version, the software is clunky and just crappy I'm general on the note. No one seems to want to come out and say it, but the S-pen is a gimmick. Plain and simple. Obviously that can be changed with different ROMs and etc, but I'm curious how much dev attention the note is going to get. Especially with the nexus right around the corner, and as I said, the GS4 only 4-5 months away.
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If the gs4 has a 5inch display, I will not buy it.
The size of the gs2 is perfect. I can deal with the size of the gs3. Any bigger and I wont buy it. Phones are getting 2 big right now.

Well if they removed the T-mobile and Samsung branding they could probably fit a 5 inch screen within the the SGS2 form factor. Be more of an edge to edge display. Personally I like the look and feel of the S2 and Note vs the "natural" look the S3 and Note 2 are going for.
I would wait like others have stated. Just use your S2 until it disintegrates and see what the next round of devices is about and how the well developers are supporting it. The S2 specs will do you well for awhile unless your a serious mobile gamer. Then if the next round of devices aren't anything to write home about you can go and pick up yourself a Note 2 for a whole lot cheaper this spring/summer than it is now

How many of you will be upgrading to the S5? How many hanging in with your note 3?

Still debating. I'm the kinda guy who likes the latest and greatest. Last year I upgraded from my note 2 to the s4, but I love my n3 so much I don't know if I will be doing the same this generation! Any thoughts?
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Hey buddy no offense, but haven't you noticed how many of these kinds of threads get locked? There is a thread already for general stuff like this. Now that being said, I think it's crazy to get rid of this phone already. It still feels new to me Lol.

I don't see the point in downgrading.

S5? No, I'm JUMPing on Note 4 when its out.

IB4TL and no.

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S5? No, I'm JUMPing on Note 4 when its out.
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Exactly! S5 downgrade as far as I'm concerned. I have a strange feeling I'm going to be on Note devices for a long while. Already saving money for the N4.

Just get the Note 4 when it comes out. I thought the whole purpose was screen size?

The note series are the true flagship phones of Samsumg, dont think they knew the goldmine they were sitting on when they released it. Its an insult to get rid of a note 3 so quickly for a galaxy S device when we all know the next note is just a 4-5 months away from being revealed with far superior specs. Enjoy your note 3, galaxy s phones are 4 kehds.
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No interest in the S5. The LG G Pro 2 looks pretty sweet, but I'll probably wait for the Note 4. I just hope they don't make it ridiculously big. The HTC One Max and Xperia Z Ultra are too big for my pockets.

If the leaked benchmark scores are correct, the S5 is actually slower then the Note 3. The S5 scored 35k and change where the Note 3 (at least mine on stock) scored 36,922. which isn't anything major. but who wants to buy a new phone thats slower then a phone that was released 4 months ago? I knwo the screen will be higher res, but you wont be able to see the difference anyway.
Plus, no Spen (which is 1 reason I got my Note 3) and a 1/2 inch smaller screen. I highly doubt I'll ever go smaller then the Note 3 at this point going forward. And who's to say it will come with an unlocked bootloader like the Note 3 has.

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Note 4 or Note Edge

Hi everyone. I just wanted to make a thread and see how many people were jumping ship to the newer devices. And why?
Note 4? - Is it really worth the upgrade right now?
Note Edge? - Is the new curved edge display gonna be functional enough being that it is completely new tech?
I'd like this to be a spot where we can debate differences, pros, and cons. Really just looking for other people's input because I'm really torn between the Note 4 and Note Edge.
Also my Note 2 is still in perfect condition, runs great, and does everything I need it to still. So I'm also deciding if I really need to upgrade or not. Decisions, decisions ?????
Sorry if this is in the wrong spot.
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I am making the jump. I think the edge will end up like the Mega forgotten about shortly after its release.

ProFresh4 said:
I am making the jump. I think the edge will end up like the Mega forgotten about shortly after its release.
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Thank you for your input ?
Right now the only selling point for me with the Edge is just that WOW factor when someone does see you have it they'll probably be like "woah what phone is that", because of the edge screen.
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Yea it has the wow factor. But they displayed the phone a year ago when they talked about the galaxy round which never made it to the U.S

I can't help myself...
I want a new phone every year. I know that some need to change even more often, but I get trapped into thinking I "need" the better screen, camera, etc. I love the Note product line. I've had all three. I have to say that the Note II was by far the best upgrade, so far. In fact, to be honest, going from the Note II to the Note 3 had as many downsides as upsides in my opinion. From my personal experience, the camera was not better - it had more features (mostly useless), but the autofocus did not function as well as the Note II. I had more blurry pictures on my Note 3 than ever on my Note II. You start to realize that once you get a good camera, the upgrade to higher MP isn't as important as having a good camera that just works.That was one of the letdowns I had with the Note 3. The other is battery life. First of all, the orignal Note had a horrible battery life and I thought that was just going to be the price of having for an enormous phone with a great screen. but the Note II solved that issue in spades! The upgrade to the Note II was worth it just for the battery life alone. The Note 3 on the other hand was a pretty serious downgrade in battery performance... at least from my experience. Which brings me to the topic of this thread (finally)...
I'm very concerned that the battery life will take a step backwards from the Note 3 to the Note 4. The screen on the Note 4 is unbelievable, but there is a price to pay in the battery. I find it crazy that the battery size was not bumped up to accomodate. I know they stated in their intro that it was something like 7% more battery efficient than the Note 3, but I don't think THEY even believed that, because it was just thrown in at the end. Instead they spent time talking about how they made it faster charging. I don't know about you, but I don't want to plug my phone in during the day, every day; even if it is only for 30 minutes for a quick charge. Battery life is just too important to me, as I learned from the original Note and I don't want to go backwards AGAIN. the Note Edge has an even slightly smaller battery and the extra screen that seems to have an "always-on" feature. I'm even more worried about that one.
Hmmm. Maybe I'll sell my Note 3 and buy a Note II and pretend that is my annual upgrade. HA!

FYI, last weekend, i saw the edge at best buy's on display on friday in san francisco. i went back on monday to see it again and it was removed.

Just setting up my edge right now, coming from n1, n2 and n3. Loved my n2 the best. Just got it a couple hours ago, but it's cool. Was going to get a n4 but they were out of stock.
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I plan on getting the nexus 6 in a few months. I like the shape of it. Dual front facing speakers. Pure stock. I don't use the s-pen often. I have had the original note now the 2. I use straight talk prepaid AT&T Sim so the international 6 will be a perfect fit. And by February I may find one a llittle cheaper. I like the note series but the nexus 6 has the bigger screen and less crap and no TW. And I dont have to root it to have a pure stock android experience. I like the note 4 but I just like the N6 better.

Do you like your Note 4?

So I just sold my Xperia Z2, Thinking about the Note 4 or G3?
Im leaning more towards the Note 4 but is there common issues going on with them? I`d be buying one Used AT&T is asking way too much for theres.
Also is there an International like rom/stock rom that will work with the AT&T varient? I cannot stand what AT&T does to there software.

Honestly I have Note 4 from AT&T, it's amazing... way better than LG G3... G3 has a few serious issues people say the battery life is horrible, also they phone overheats, it will auto dim your screen when this happens, if you try to turn it up a message comes out an say your phone is to hot... also you can't use no roms on at&t note 4, SM-N910A model and SM-N910V (Verizon) model both r not able to b rooted yet, but I personally think after 5.0 gets released an couple months after we will have a root but right now no... people will alway find ways just takes time an no point when they kno a software update is due... personally I bought a Note 4 but if I was gunna buy any other phone would have been iPhone 6 or 6+ or Nexus 6

my wife has the G3 and I have the Note 4. I'm obviously biased but I prefer the N4 over the G3. Just personal preference since both devices are great. I do like the 'knock to unlock' feature on the G3 and the speakers seem to be louder but I dont regret getting the N4.
It all comes down to your preference.

hyelton said:
So I just sold my Xperia Z2, Thinking about the Note 4 or G3?
Im leaning more towards the Note 4 but is there common issues going on with them? I`d be buying one Used AT&T is asking way too much for theres.
Also is there an International like rom/stock rom that will work with the AT&T varient? I cannot stand what AT&T does to there software.
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tl;dr = YES!!
My full $.02 is on my site: http://www.stupidputer.com/2015/02/the-nexus-4-finally-dies/

I am really drawn to the camera. It takes great pictures, focuses quickly and has very low shot latency, which is really important. My last phone, the LG G2 also took nice pictures, but was so damn slow in shooting. But I'll probably be the first person to jump to the Galaxy s6 and HTC One M9 when they come out. Android doesn't do a great job with utilizing the bigger screens of phones. With the iPhone 6 plus, you get nice landscape UI shift with a lot of apps.

In all honesty, if I had it to do over again, I would probably get the iphone 6. The Note is a little laggy and slugguish and the allure of the spen wore off pretty quickly.

S7 v Note 5

I played with the s7 and edge today at Best Buy. Wow. Beautiful and you can feel they are an evolution from the Note 5 and s6. I can't wait to see how they take that design and implement it into the Note 6.

I have a S7 Edge on pre-order... I can't wait!

I was at BestBuy today and played with the S7 and S7 Edge for a while. I was not impressed at all. The physical appearance is not much different than the S6. I compared it to my Note 5, and I just don't see significant different in performance. Perhaps, the S7 demo unit is not yet well polished? But, I don't see any reason to upgrade, let just say not worth the upgrade. At least not for me.
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Not worth the upgrade from my Note 5, basically the S7 is a copy of Note 5 with just a few improvement, not saying that S7 is not good, i am sure it is, but to upgrade my Note 5, i will wait on Note 6 which will be way better then S7, or if not to impress on the Note 6, then I'll hold on to my Note 5 till next year for the Note 7.
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I went to Best Buy today too.
What impressed me the most was how much smaller the S7 Edge is compared to my Note 5.
Yes, I know the screen is 0.2 smaller but the form factor and size was really nice.
The screen appeared a tad bit nicer on s7 Edge and definitely brighter.
Regardless not enough to upgrade for me. I'll keep the Note 5 for now.

Same. Just looking forward to the note6

I was gonna upgrade to the s7 edge, but decided against it after playing with an s6 edge plus. I just don't like the curved screen, distorts 1/4 inch on each side of the screen, and make it really hard to view things.
Neat design, but too annoying for me.
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I agree. I reckon Samsung should create a zoom buttton, like Netflix has, that goes from full screen to just the 'flat' area. It would still look pretty good.

Well for any T-Mobile or Sprint on the S7 or S7 Edge, they finally locked there bootloaders, tightly locked down, no more root for those phone as well there fun in rooting are over, i knew this was gonna happen sooner or later, so now they are in the same boat as AT&T and Verizon is.
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Venom0642 said:
Well for any T-Mobile or Sprint on the S7 or S7 Edge, they finally locked there bootloaders, tightly locked down, no more root for those phone as well there fun in rooting are over, i knew this was gonna happen sooner or later, so now they are in the same boat as AT&T and Verizon is.
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T mobile too? Say it isn't so. Unlike you, I never thought T-mobile would go that route. Sad.

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T mobile too? Say it isn't so. Unlike you, I never thought T-mobile would go that route. Sad.
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Yeah lots in T-Mobile Forum for S7 and S7 Edge are very pisted, Like i always said nothing lasts for long was a matter of time for it to happen to T-Mobile and Sprint.
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They draw line in sand on play ground.
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My guess on the T-Mobile thing is that it is possible that Samsung Forced their hand. Samsung seems to be trying to take the route of better security screw the dev. community. Kinda disappointing really.
The only real difference I can see that the S7 phones add is adding back the ability to use external storage.
Looks like I will be looking for a different phone manufacturer next go round that isn't completely locked down and doesn't suck. Very disappointing though considering I like the Note series.

No stylus, no want
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I always felt that skipping a generation on Sammy devices is always a better payoff if you can wait. S7 in silver is awful pretty though.
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I have the S7 on Verizon and the Note 5 on AT&T. Nearly no difference besides MM and the always on time/date display. Cameras both are good. S7 a tad better in low light. Note 5 better color reproduction. MicroSD is preference just like the S pen. My note 5 is 64gb so not incredibly important to me. S7 Is more comfortable to hold since it's smaller. Still prefer the larger screen on my note 5.
My verdict is they're nearly the same phone in terms of agility. S7 is what the S6 should have been. Note 5 is still more professional in my book. Just depends on what your use cases are. I use remote desktop from MS and chrome remote desktop daily and the larger screen and S pen make all the difference. I do like the slightly curved glass edges on the display of the S7, which is the single thing I wish the Note 5 did have. I can tell you that you will miss your Note 5 within an hour of using the S7 Due to the smaller screen.
The Edge series is pure gimmick and a complete rip off in terms of pricing.

I couldn't decide so I got both. Damn you AT&T!!!!!!!!
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malickie said:
Looks like I will be looking for a different phone manufacturer next go round that isn't completely locked down and doesn't suck. Very disappointing though considering I like the Note series.
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What are you thinking about getting? I am torn between going back to an iPhone or finding an Android phone that can have bloatware removed and gets updates fast. It seems like you have to compromise on anything you do with Android when you get a carrier branded device.

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What are you thinking about getting? I am torn between going back to an iPhone or finding an Android phone that can have bloatware removed and gets updates fast. It seems like you have to compromise on anything you do with Android when you get a carrier branded device.
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Debloater works pretty good if you ask me.
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JeSTeRH4CK3D said:
Debloater works pretty good if you ask me.
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That may be true on getting rid of bloatware but then you have to deal with AT&T, or another carrier, and Samsung, or another manufacturer, on getting updates for your device.