[Q] Can I delete the 4 Gbs of files after installing PA? - Paranoid Android Q&A

There's roughly 4 gigs of files on my Nexus 5 after installing PA KitKat, is it possible to delete these as I only have the 16Gb model and space is limited as it is. sorry if this has been asked before searched and didn't see it.

Don't know what 4 gbs you have on there but once the ROM and gapps are flashed, there are no files needed for the ROM to work.
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Pirateghost said:
Don't know what 4 gbs you have on there but once the ROM and gapps are flashed, there are no files needed for the ROM to work.
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thank you. that's all i needed to know.

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Internal space

hello,
I'm running out of internal space and I can't figure out why. In currently running Cm7.1. Is therea way to delete the bloatware that is included in the google package?
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Wrong place to ask this question. Try q&a. Maybe partition your sd.
kenyattabush said:
hello,
I'm running out of internal space and I can't figure out why. In currently running Cm7.1. Is therea way to delete the bloatware that is included in the google package?
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Yes, you will get flamed for being in wrong forum so be prepared.
Anyways, the Google package should allow for selective installing IF you are in fact referring to gapps? Also are you running a2sd? If not try that, there shouldn't be any reason you are out if space unless you have a TON of apps. Post a screen cap of your space.
Try A2SD: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158993
I set the partition to 512mb Ext3 and it's working fine. I never have memory problems now.
A clean install of CM7 should have tons of space left..... I have ran that build and installed around 20-30 apps and still didn't tap out. Stick to CM's site for Q&A and youtube for demonstrations before posting in a dev forum.....

Delete the 0 folder on SD card

Hi sorry I am still new to all this stuff, but how do I get rid of O folder takes up 3 GB of memory. I was running aokp 4.2 and now I switched to touch wiz ROM. Can I just delete folder or is there a step by step guide of what to do. Thanks in advance!
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phonetechkid said:
Hi sorry I am still new to all this stuff, but how do I get rid of O folder takes up 3 GB of memory. I was running aokp 4.2 and now I switched to touch wiz ROM. Can I just delete folder or is there a step by step guide of what to do. Thanks in advance!
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You may have important files in there. You may want to check before deleting it.
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Look in that folder. Its everything that was on your internal sd before flashing a 4.2 based ROM. I used adb to pull everything out of that folder, then reformatted the internal, then used adb to push my files back to the properly formatted (i.e. Not a 4.2 based ROM) internal sd.
K thank you for help I think I know what to do
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Android 4.2.x File Structure Thread

Hey Guys,
So After all of the recent questions and concerns I have seen and answered, I have decided to make a thread to help users understand the new file structure of android 4.2.x. I hope this will help those of you with questions and concerns and make for a smoother transition from 4.1.x and touch wiz roms.
I will break this into three categories........
First I will explain what the file system is and why it is present and how it affects you......
Second is if you haven't yet but are planning on making the jump to 4.2.x.
Third will be if you have already made the jump without doing your homework. (For those of you wondering where your files are, wondering why your sd card was formatted, or cant find your recovery backups..... This section is for you!!)
Section 1.)
What is the new file system and what the hell is this /0 folder?
With Android 4.2, Google introduced multiple users as a new feature. In order to accommodate multiple users, Google is now giving each user their own folder for storage. What happens is 4.2 uses an emulator to make different users and uses the /0 folder as the default users storage on the sd card. It doesn't recognize anything on the root of the sd card only whats in /0. To support multi-user capabilities this will be the norm... for each user, there will be a sequentially numbered folder in /data/media (/data/media/0, /data/media/1)...
And for each user, within Android, this will be symlinked to /sdcard & /storage/sdcard0... for user 1, /sdcard = /storage/sdcard0 = /data/media/0... for user 2, /sdcard = /storage/sdcard0 = /data/media/0...
These are emulated storage points... /data/media/0 = /storage/emulated/0, /data/media/1 = /storage/emulated/1
Without root access, each user will just see /sdcard/ and will not be able to access the other emulated storage points...
In the recovery mode, however, /sdcard is mapped to /data/media which is why you need to navigate to the "0" folder to see your files!
So in order to access your internal storage files they will be in data/media/0. So for example to access the backup location In titanium backup after you flash navigate to data/media/0/TitaniumBackup. (Thanks to ktetreault)
That being said, If you already flashed a 4.2 rom without preparation, your files aren't lost they are just inaccessible they are just not in the proper place for 4.2 to see them.
So now that we have all the technical stuff out of the way...... Lets get into how to either prevent or fix this issue.
Section 2.)
Preparing to flash a 4.2 rom from a touch wiz rom or an aosp 4.1.x based rom.
Okay, so you have touch wiz or aosp 4.1.x of some sort and your ready to try out the goodness of 4.2?
First backup your ext sd card to your pc or if a pc is unavailable (and your willing to take a risk) use a file explorer on your phone such as Es file explorer from the market to transfer the contents of the ext sd card to your internal sd card. I highly suggest avoiding using the phone as some hiccups can occur. I have done it successfully myself but have heard others who have lost their files during transfer because they left the app while it was transferring. If you do use this method DO NOT LEAVE THE APP UNTIL THE FILE TRANSFER IS COMPLETE.
Second Format your ext sd card so we have a clean slate to work with as this will help tremendously to avoid any headaches.
Third Install the latest recovery of your choice. The reason for this is that the older recoveries are not updated for 4.2 and will continuously create a new /0 folder every time you flash a new rom. Follow the instructions to install in the applicable thread.
Thanks to naddict for posting the links.... These are all flashable zips thru recovery
TWRP 2.4.1.0 - http://d-h.st/9cL
CWM 6.0.2.3 - http://d-h.st/jbT
CWM Touch 6.0.2.3 - http://d-h.st/8A9
Fourth Flash the 4.2 rom of your choosing per the instructions of the developers OP in their thread.
Set your phone up as usual and then restore the files from your backup on your pc or move them back from the internal sd card using es file explorer again. Keep in mind that the /0 folder is your new sd card storage. Now you are good to go and enjoy the new features and benefits of 4.2 and not have to search for your files :good:
Section 3.)
Okay so you got overly excited and flashed a 4.2 rom........ OMG!!! All my files are gone!!!! I can't restore any backups and all my precious files have disappeared!! Why was my sd card formatted?????
Relax.... Your files didn't go any where they are exactly how you left them you just can't see them.....
I will walk you thru 4 easy steps to get your files back and put you back on track.
First Make sure you have the latest recovery of your choice. If needed refer to the links posted in section 1. If you don't do this you will see a duplicate /0 folder created every time you flash a new 4.2 rom.
Second You won't be able to find your backups thru recovery. The easiest method I found is to download any touch wiz rom. Wipe your phone completely and then flash the touch wiz rom you downloaded. Reboot and go thru the setup and what not.
Third Now install es file explorer or the app of your choice. Next copy everything from the root of the sd card into the /0 folder that 4.2 had created oh so nicely for you.
Fourth Reboot into recovery and re-flash the 4.2 rom you began with. After going thru the initial rom setup you will see that are of your files are back intact and ready for you to access.
Hopefully this has helped those of you with questions and concerns about upgrading to 4.2.x. If i missed anything please feel free to let me know and ill include it here or address any further questions.
Thanks to:
Sundawg of TBD
Koush Of CWM
Team Win
And All of the devs on xda
Hope I have helped if so feel free to press thanks!!
Thank you for taking the time to write this. This should help a lot of people.
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WhoWhere said:
Thank you for taking the time to write this. This should help a lot of people.
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No problem. I was answering this a few times recently and I know I was baffled at first. As well I didn't see any other threads regarding this so I figured it may help.
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If i am currently on a 4.1 ROM and don't have an external sd(i only have the internal storage), will the new 4.2 file system affect me when i flash a 4.2 ROM?
So far i have backed up apps+data with titanium backup, and im ready to flash liquid smooth ROM using twrp. I just want to know if after flashing my internal storage contents will still be there and i will be able to restore apps with tb.
Outstanding guide, good work!
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This should help a lot of people, nice work! I will add this to the FAQ.
chromium96 said:
If i am currently on a 4.1 ROM and don't have an external sd(i only have the internal storage), will the new 4.2 file system affect me when i flash a 4.2 ROM?
So far i have backed up apps+data with titanium backup, and im ready to flash liquid smooth ROM using twrp. I just want to know if after flashing my internal storage contents will still be there and i will be able to restore apps with tb.
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No you shouldn't be affected bud I would only suggest getting an sd card just to backup anything important in case of a freak error during flashing or accidental wiping of internal sd.
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Towle said:
This should help a lot of people, nice work! I will add this to the FAQ.
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Thanks i appreciate you including it in your thread.
Thetenthdr said:
Outstanding guide, good work!
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Thanks a lot took me a little while to get it all together.
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chromium96 said:
If i am currently on a 4.1 ROM and don't have an external sd(i only have the internal storage), will the new 4.2 file system affect me when i flash a 4.2 ROM?
So far i have backed up apps+data with titanium backup, and im ready to flash liquid smooth ROM using twrp. I just want to know if after flashing my internal storage contents will still be there and i will be able to restore apps with tb.
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Yes, but you will have to set the backup location In titanium backup after you flash to data/media/0/TitaniumBackup
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ktetreault14 said:
Yes, but you will have to set the backup location In titanium backup after you flash to data/media/0/TitaniumBackup
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Thanks for informing I'll add that to the op as well.
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this was of great help
When I went to 4.2.1 I did not understand the file system change. I had to use my backup phone for 5 days before I finally got my SMSand MMS and Launcher Pro restored.
Then I wiped and flashed again and it created a new "0" directory. I have been afraid to do anything but dirty flash since.
This finally explains it all and I feel confident in wiping again.
Thank you so much.
GeneLM said:
When I went to 4.2.1 I did not understand the file system change. I had to use my backup phone for 5 days before I finally got my SMSand MMS and Launcher Pro restored.
Then I wiped and flashed again and it created a new "0" directory. I have been afraid to do anything but dirty flash since.
This finally explains it all and I feel confident in wiping again.
Thank you so much.
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No problem bud that's why I created the thread to help everyone understand and to give you guys a place to ask.
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You rock, thx for the info, looks like it was a lot of work but good idea after so many posts asking about the same thing
lordazoroth said:
You rock, thx for the info, looks like it was a lot of work but good idea after so many posts asking about the same thing
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No problem it was my pleasure. Hopefully will cut the redundancy lol
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If you are missing your /sdcard/download/ file:
Go to: /mnt/shell/emulated/download/
+Bound for Valhalla!
Valhalla_ said:
If you are missing your /sdcard/download/ file:
Go to: /mnt/shell/emulated/download/
+Bound for Valhalla!
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Yup that will work but quite an annoying work around Lol that's why I showed you guys how to prevent this or fix it so this won't be needed every time you need a file
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Great work, very informative and easy to read...
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unk2009 said:
Great work, very informative and easy to read...
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Hey, quick question, I bounced off another ROM onto liquidsmooth without updating my recovery and ended up with an extra '0' folder, can I move my files out of there and delete it safely?
lordazoroth said:
Hey, quick question, I bounced off another ROM onto liquidsmooth without updating my recovery and ended up with an extra '0' folder, can I move my files out of there and delete it safely?
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Yup no problem just delete the innermost one without your files and you will be good to go.
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rawdaddymagraden said:
Yup no problem just delete the innermost one without your files and you will be good to go.
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Pimp, thx a bunch!

Phone storage when flashing roms

Okay this is weird lol..I tried searching and couldn't find anything. .for instance when I flash to aosp then flash back to a tw rom...the phone storage seems to be on a separate partition and it's empty none of my original files are present. ..if I go to file manager in twrp I can see my files but back in tw it's like a fresh storage with nothing lol...I can flash back to aosp and backup my crap then format internal storage and data then move the stuff back but that's a headache. Any how to stop that from doing this to my storage when flashing from aosp to tw? It must be a Samsung thing because it also does this on my friends s3...the past I've had htc phones and never have had this slight headache. Sorry for rambling. .but I'd greatly appreciate the feedback. Thank you
Galaxy Note 2
What AOSP ROM did you flash and what Android version it is?
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mar.ioo said:
What AOSP ROM did you flash and what Android version it is?
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It's done that with cm10.1 and ptmr3's aosp rom both 4.2.2
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mrjaydee82 said:
It's done that with cm10.1 and ptmr3's aosp rom both 4.2.2
Galaxy Note 2
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Its because Android 4.2.x support multiusers, once you flash a 4.2.x ROM you will now have a storage called /0 rather than /sdcard thats the default storage location. You can switch between /0 and /sdcard by moving all the data and deleting unnecessary files using you computer or ES File Explorer.
When switching from 4.2.x to 4.1.x move the files with ES File Explorer. In ES File Explorer go to Settings>Root Settings and tick the first three options. Them being Root Explorer, Up to root and Mount file system. You can find the actual TW storage in mnt/shell/emulated once you enabled the options in root settings.
Kinda hard at first but you'll get the hang of it No other workaround.
Edit: Another thing... In 4.2.x you wont see your pictures if they are in the /sdcard. You will have to move them to the 4.2.x storage /0
In my case when I switch to TW (rarely), i only move my TWRP folder.
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Thank you..that makes sense
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mrjaydee82 said:
Thank you..that makes sense
Galaxy Note 2
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You're most welcome! Here if any other help needed
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there is a simple workaround..
Just flash the attached file any time you downgrade from a 4.2.2 AOSP to a TW rom, and this fix takes care of all of that for you automatically..
Flash this after you flash the TW rom, but, before you reboot....
When I go back to tw there is a file 0 in my internal with empty copies of all of my internal files, I just delete the whole thing, reboot, and everything is back.
9wire said:
When I go back to tw there is a file 0 in my internal with empty copies of all of my internal files, I just delete the whole thing, reboot, and everything is back.
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Please my friend, read! It just a couple of post above yours.
Its because Android 4.2.x support multiusers, once you flash a 4.2.x ROM you will now have a storage called /0 rather than /sdcard thats the default storage location. You can switch between /0 and /sdcard by moving all the data and deleting unnecessary files using you computer or ES File Explorer.
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mar.ioo said:
Its because Android 4.2.x support multiusers, once you flash a 4.2.x ROM you will now have a storage called /0 rather than /sdcard thats the default storage location. You can switch between /0 and /sdcard by moving all the data and deleting unnecessary files using you computer or ES File Explorer.
When switching from 4.2.x to 4.1.x move the files with ES File Explorer. In ES File Explorer go to Settings>Root Settings and tick the first three options. Them being Root Explorer, Up to root and Mount file system. You can find the actual TW storage in mnt/shell/emulated once you enabled the options in root settings.
Kinda hard at first but you'll get the hang of it No other workaround.
Edit: Another thing... In 4.2.x you wont see your pictures if they are in the /sdcard. You will have to move them to the 4.2.x storage /0
In my case when I switch to TW (rarely), i only move my TWRP folder.
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Thank You
I just experienced this exact same issue and was confused. I just went from SOA 4.2.2 to JediXP 12 to give TW a go again for a while
bigystyle84 said:
Thank You
I just experienced this exact same issue and was confused. I just went from SOA 4.2.2 to JediXP 12 to give TW a go again for a while
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You're welcome bud! if you flashed a 4.2.x ROM just to see how it was and switched back to TW you can just delete the /0 storage as it probably wont have any files, just empy folders.
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wase4711 said:
there is a simple workaround..
Just flash the attached file any time you downgrade from a 4.2.2 AOSP to a TW rom, and this fix takes care of all of that for you automatically..
Flash this after you flash the TW rom, but, before you reboot....
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Ooooh awesome. ..ill try this next...tyvm
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Storage after update

I'm a fresh new user of Lineage OS. I've already made first "OTA" update and I didn't like it because it has taken around 0,5GB of storage permanently. At first I thought that maybe there's some update file .zip left, but I can't find any. Is it normal?
In MIUI update actually free some space (by cleaning cache or something).
I've got Xiaomi Redmi 4X with 16GB internal storage.
I would recommend this app see what storage space you left in each partition.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.kuder.diskinfo
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willowen100 said:
I would recommend this app see what storage space you left in each partition.
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I'm not sure how it's gonna help me. I didn't take a note how big was every partiton before update. And even if I knew, I wouldn't know what to do. All I know, I had 4,78GB usable strorage before update and only 4,35GB after. And I don't know if I can delete anything to get it back. Or if it's gonna take another 0,5GB after every weekly update I make.
Android partitions are set and they don't change when a ROM gets installed, unless of course someone changes it manually through some commands. Even then not many people do it because it is risky.
Have you installed any Google Apps packages? Why I'm asking is because the OpenGApps can de-bloat some of the Lineage OS apps during its installation process.
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willowen100 said:
Android partitions are set and they don't change when a ROM gets installed, unless of course someone changes it manually through some commands. Even then not many people do it because it is risky.
Have you installed any Google Apps packages? Why I'm asking is because the OpenGApps can de-bloat some of the Lineage OS apps during its installation process.
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I'm not saying partition were changed.. I just looked in Settings on my Internal storage before and after update and there was 450 MB less of available space after update.
Yes, I've installed OpenGapps Pico, but this package don't de-bloat any apps. I had all Lineage stock apps before and after update.
nndn said:
I'm a fresh new user of Lineage OS. I've already made first "OTA" update and I didn't like it because it has taken around 0,5GB of storage permanently. At first I thought that maybe there's some update file .zip left, but I can't find any. Is it normal?
In MIUI update actually free some space (by cleaning cache or something).
I've got Xiaomi Redmi 4X with 16GB internal storage.
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You use the OTA updater in settings? The button you hit to install, now is named delete. You can also select to automatically delete after install.
kurtn said:
You use the OTA updater in settings? The button you hit to install, now is named delete. You can also select to automatically delete after install.
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Yes that was it. Thanks mate. I feel so stupid.
I was looking for some zip in internal memory. I would never guess to look in Updater App.
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