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Wet TP2: My experience

My Touch Pro 2 is currently sitting in a bowl of rice while I gather the courage to install the battery and test my methods of drying it out.
Yesterday, my sister walked into the swimming pool with the phone in her back pocket. It only took her a second to realize her error and thankfully I was right there. I popped the battery out without turning on the screen and layed the seperate parts out in the sun for a few hours. When I got home, I dumped the phone into a bowl and filled it with rice in the hopes that the rice would absorb any excess moisture.
This morning, I broke out my tools and broke the phone down, looking for water damage. I found some residual water under the screen, but with so many layers of plastic, I would rather not take it completely apart. To help with this little bit, I placed the phone screen up on the dash of my car for 1 hour. Since sunlight is deadly to a phone, I didn't dare leave it longer.
We have a central heating and air unit outside, so I placed the phone atop the unit outside (it blows warm air from the top) for another hour.
I checked the screen for moisture and can't see any now, but with all of the various layers, it is hard to say for certain.
The last thing I will try is to hook up a universal air pump used for blowing up air mattresses and such to the bowl of rice. With a cover on top and a few vents on the side, I am hoping to blow dry air in and the last remaining moisture out.
If anyone has any other tips or tricks to add, I would be happy to give 'em a shot. I am in no hurry and a few days is worth the wait if it means the chances of the phone recovering are greater with other methods.

If you can create a vacuum (use duct-tape creatively to form a seal between the container* and the universal blower, and have the suction end of the blower making the connection) that would probably be best. Water between button contacts and on the circut board, in my past experience, has been the most lingering after-water problems.
When my blackjack ii took a dive in the doggy dish, it was about a week before it was completely dry, as evidenced by the lack of odd behaviour from the power button. I considered myself pretty lucky in that one. Good luck.
*The best you can probably do for a vacuum container would be to use a good-quality plastic baggy. Cut the zip-lock part off, insert the phone and a folded piece of cardboard to keep the bag from completely colapsing/getting-sucked-up, and duct tape it to the suction end of the universal blower, or even better, the suction end of a cleaned electric leaf blower. -Just a thought.

Update
After allowing the phone to spend yet another night in the bowl of rice (I decided against introducing forced air out of laziness), I plugged the battery back in and tried to boot it up.
The phone did not respond, at all.
I plugged the phone in via the official charger and noticed a momentary blip of the orange LED near the speaker. This seemed familiar, so I pulled the battery out and tried plugging the charger in again: Sure enough, I got the exact same response. The battery was either dead or the phone wasn't recognizing it.
The replacement phone came in Tuesday, but with some medical emergencies in the family, I didn't attempt anything until this evening. I removed the new, charged battery from the replacement phone and put it in the one I have been working on.
Voila! The phone booted straight up with the new battery!
I noticed some residual damage to the dispersal plastic behind the screen as the phone booted with a white background, but once the phone booted completely up, I couldn't see any difference from before the accident.
While I haven't been able to completely test every aspect of the phone, I plan to update this thread once the new battery (buy dot com, ftw!) comes in on Monday.
I am very pleased with the results and it was definitely worth the time and effort I put into the drying process.
If anyone stumbles upon this tiny thread, please keep in mind a few things:
The phone was only briefly immersed in water for about 30 seconds, inside a pocket
After removing the phone from the water, I pulled the battery before turning on the screen
I allowed the phone to dry over the course of five days
I consider the fact that the phone is now working to be a freak coincidence, results are not typical

a friend of mine had his immersed in water for about 3 min before he realized he had it in his pocket....since we are airplane mechanics, we deal with A/C alot, therefore we have a vacuum pump handy for evacuating A/C systems. He put his phone (dunno what kind, it was touch screen though) in to a vacuum chamber ( a glass jar with a hole tapped in the cap to allow for vacuum to be pulled) and pulled a vacuum on it for a day...it is still working and it was 2 months ago. So just an idea, i realize the equipment is not available to everyone, but it worked for him.

planedoc said:
a friend of mine had his immersed in water for about 3 min before he realized he had it in his pocket....since we are airplane mechanics, we deal with A/C alot, therefore we have a vacuum pump handy for evacuating A/C systems. He put his phone (dunno what kind, it was touch screen though) in to a vacuum chamber ( a glass jar with a hole tapped in the cap to allow for vacuum to be pulled) and pulled a vacuum on it for a day...it is still working and it was 2 months ago. So just an idea, i realize the equipment is not available to everyone, but it worked for him.
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This is interesting!
Chemistry suggests that reducing the air pressure to a near vacuum would reduce the temperature needed for the water to evaporate, allowing it to do so at a highly increased rate... but keeping the phone inside an air-tight (and thus water-tight) container would actually prevent the water from escaping.
What am I missing here?

Snarksneeze said:
This is interesting!
Chemistry suggests that reducing the air pressure to a near vacuum would reduce the temperature needed for the water to evaporate, allowing it to do so at a highly increased rate... but keeping the phone inside an air-tight (and thus water-tight) container would actually prevent the water from escaping.
What am I missing here?
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The vacuum pump has a way of letting the vapor out of it in the process of pulling the vacuum...you can see the vapor as it escapes from the vacuum pump and by the time you reach 29.92 or close, you usually never get a perfect vacuum, but close....moisture is mostly gone....let it set, with a set of guages of course (forgot to mention that) monitor the vacuum, anytime it goes below 28-29 or so, turn the pump on again to remove the moisture....untill it holds for several hours making sure its all gone...a little overkill never hurts with these expensive devices.

Sweat Damage

Hi,
I know there is a lot of information on the Internet about Water Damage, but i can't seem to find out what's going with my device.
Here's what happened: i went for a run with my phone stuck to my arm by a rubber band. When i got home i found that the sweat of my arm had damaged the phone: it didn't want to turn on and the water damage stickers are red. I dried the sweat of the back of the phone with a towel (it wasn't much) and i was able to turn it up for an hour or two and it seemed fined, only the battery indicator was crazy (exclamation mark). I wasn't able to charge my battery as well. The indicator led is crazy as well (when i try to charge my battery it blinks orange, green and so on).
The phone itself seems fine is the battery that cannot charge and seems damaged causing the phone to turn off frequently. What do you think? Should a buy a new battery or a new phone?
(sorry for my bad english)

1: don't run with the phone. Two: try with another battery, the battery seems broken.
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If phone is still damp put it in a bowl of dry rice, it will remove any excess moisture.
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That phone is not designed to be used that way, you should use an external casing that's not connected to your skin and as such less likely to be sweat damaged. (i.e.: belt clip of sort).
The suggestion to place into a jar of rice for a day or two is typically a good way to draw out any moisture, the main thing you DO NOT want to do is attempt to power it on or charge while humidity still exists inside the device.

I bought a new battery and the phone works just fine, only the old battery was damaged. Thanks for the help.

This is more of a question about sweat
I didn't want to make another thread about sweat damage, so i figured I might as well ask here. I have a problem where it seem that my touch screen collects moisture inside my pants pocket. One time at the mall i stood watching a football game for like an hour, when i took out my phone the screen was completely soaked like i gave it a good spray with a spray bottle. I think the problem is that the phone is warm so it causes me to sweat more? Funny thing is I feel warm but it doesn't seem like i was sweating, yet screen still collect alot of moisture.
The phone is working fine, no sign of any water related damage and that incident been about 2 weeks ago. My real question is, anyone got any recommendation as to how to carry my phone to prevent any further water exposure?

I got wet my phone and touchscreen doesn't work

Any solution? Everything else works fine, when it happened I immediately submerged in rice.. {happened 2 weeks ago}

D13Gho said:
Any solution?
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Is your device properly dried?
If so, it might be time to open is and see any water damage on the digitizer connector.
In the mean time you might use an external mouse and keyboard plugged on to a hub in OTG.

D13Gho said:
Any solution?
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Switch it off
Take the back off
There are a number of supposed ways to sort water damage but of course it depends on what damage has been done.
Options are
Submerg phone in a bowl of uncooked rice & leave in an airing cupboard overnight (or other very warm place)
Put phone in a freezer bag & place in the freezer overnight
Of course if the board is actually damaged only replacing the board will fix it but if it's just moisture causing a slight short circuit then maybe the above could would

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Switch it off
Take the back off
There are a number of supposed ways to sort water damage but of course it depends on what damage has been done.
Options are
Submerg phone in a bowl of uncooked rice & leave in an airing cupboard overnight (or other very warm place)
Put phone in a freezer bag & place in the freezer overnight
Of course if the board is actually damaged only replacing the board will fix it but if it's just moisture causing a slight short circuit then maybe the above could would
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Oh, dont Put in freezer. The water left inside hardens (obviosly) and expands/gets smaller.
U will have an damage like Touchscreen broken completely.
Rice Method has been Profen to Not Work very Well too. You can use These things you find in boot-packaging. They Work the best.

p8tgames said:
Oh, dont Put in freezer. The water left inside hardens (obviosly) and expands/gets smaller.
U will have an damage like Touchscreen broken completely.
Rice Method has been Profen to Not Work very Well too. You can use These things you find in boot-packaging. They Work the best.
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Both methods have actually been proven to revive a USB stick that was submerged in water & I think they did it on phones too
Watch the gadget shows tested to destruction episodes if you live in the UK or have a vpn
And I can also confirm leaving the phone in airing cupboard method works as Iv done it with two phones with water damage where the screen either wouldn't display anything or had areas of just black

matmutant said:
Is your device properly dried?
If so, it might be time to open is and see any water damage on the digitizer connector.
In the mean time you might use an external mouse and keyboard plugged on to a hub in OTG.
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Yes it is dried, I opened it and I did not know what to do, where is that digitizer connector? And how must it be? Sorry my bad English and ignorance, and thank you for replying

D13Gho said:
Yes it is dried, I opened it and I did not know what to do, where is that digitizer connector? And how must it be? Sorry my bad English and ignorance, and thank you for replying
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In theory our device has a coating preventing water damage (at least with tape water) what kind of liquid was spilled on it? (or did you bath with it)
The digitizer cable is on of the ribbon(s) connector(s) between the screen and motherboard.
I did not disassembled mine yet, so if you can provide pictures, I might be able to tell you.

Galaxy Note 10+ stuck in boot loop with FRP lock

Hi everyone,
I tried to find any existing similar issue on the web and here but nothing exactly. I'll start by explaining what happened to my phone:
My phone got water damaged and I quickly removed the back cover (which was cracked and through where the water found its way in) and tried to dry it. I didn't have tools to remove the battery because I was on vacation.
The next day the phone was powering on, but the operating system wasn't booting. It got stuck in the logo and sometimes after a long-time waiting was booting but stuck in "WELCOME" screen and no touchscreen working (the first touch but then it was freezing and rebooting ).
So, I decided to to a factory reset, where everything got messed up. I did FR and it looked like it was going to work though it was taking too long to get to the WELCOME screen. But then it was still freezing.
I tried to install stock firmware with Wondershare DrFone which basically uses Odin (and I did use Odin alone) but it couldn't get through I guess because of the FRP lock.
>>>ATTENTION: I know how to remove the FRP, but the phone never gets to the Google page where you get asked to put the email address and password"<<<
I don't have much experience so first I was afraid to try anything else as I didn't want to brick my phone. I don't know if by installing TWRP I would be able to remove the FRP lock WITHOUT GETTING TO HTE FRP LOCK PAGE?? . By the way, I couldn't find the dedicated TWRP for my model which is SM-N975W on Snapdragon, carrier unlocked in Canada.
It would be appreciated if someone could give some advice on this issue.
Thanks in advance

Try the smarts' tips on Youtube.

ze7zez said:
Try the smarts' tips on Youtube.
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I'm going to edit my post and clarify that I can't make it to the FRP page where you get asked to enter your Google email and password.
Thanks for the reply though.

nrgX said:
I'm going to edit my post and clarify that I can't make it to the FRP page where you get asked to enter your Google email and password.
Thanks for the reply though.
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It does not matter. The trick is something else. As I wrote. Watch smart tips.
I have successfully unlocked FRP on 4 different phone models, just based on youtube hints.

ze7zez said:
It does not matter. The trick is something else. As I wrote. Watch smart tips.
I have successfully unlocked FRP on 4 different phone models, just based on youtube hints.
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Do you understand that my phone CAN NOT do any of these actions? If it gets to the Welcome screen (after the factory reset) it freezes there.

The phone must be completely dry!!!
If not disconnect the battery. This should have been done immediately. The damage may be permanent at this point if still wet.
Anhydrous isopropyl alcohol can be used as a drying agent but use discretion not to get it in between the display and front glass! Flush well then remove as much of the alcohol as possible, quickly as it's hygroscopic. Low pressure air can be used but carefully; don't force the alcohol where you don't want it. It will leave water marks on the glass if it gets there.
Place on side in a warm/hot, dry room with a fan blowing on it for 2-3 or more days.

blackhawk said:
The phone must be completely dry!!!
If not disconnect the battery. This should have been done immediately. The damage may be permanent at this point if still wet.
Anhydrous isopropyl alcohol can be used as a drying agent but use discretion not to get it in between the display and front glass! Flush well then remove as much of the alcohol as possible, quickly as it's hygroscopic. Low pressure air can be used but carefully; don't force the alcohol where you don't want it. It will leave water marks on the glass if it gets there.
Place on side in a warm/hot, dry room with a fan blowing on it for 2-3 or more days.
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Thank you for the advice.
The phone had the water damage 3 weeks ago. and it did get very little water inside, but enough to screw up the system I guess.

nrgX said:
Thank you for the advice.
The phone had the water damage 3 weeks ago. and it did get very little water inside, but enough to screw up the system I guess.
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So R.I.P.

ze7zez said:
So R.I.P.
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You sound so confident. What makes you think it is not repairable?

nrgX said:
Thank you for the advice.
The phone had the water damage 3 weeks ago. and it did get very little water inside, but enough to screw up the system I guess.
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It may not be completely dry.

blackhawk said:
It may not be completely dry.
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After 3 weeks??? It stayed in rice few days, blowed warm air after for few hours, left in dry place after that. There's no way this phone is not dry. No way.

nrgX said:
After 3 weeks??? It stayed in rice few days, blowed warm air after for few hours, left in dry place after that. There's no way this phone is not dry. No way.
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Rice does nothing!!!
Pull rear cover, *disconnect the battery* and put a fan on it as described above.
The clock is ticking Mr Wick, don't dilly dally...

nrgX said:
You sound so confident. What makes you think it is not repairable?
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"My phone got water damaged and I quickly removed the back cover (which was cracked and through where the water found its way in) and tried to dry it. I didn't have tools to remove the battery because I was on vacation.
The next day the phone was powering on, but the operating system wasn't booting."
It was a huge mistake of yours to turn on the phone after such a short time after flooding. If there was a short circuit and damage to a component, no amount of drying for a million years can help.

ze7zez said:
"My phone got water damaged and I quickly removed the back cover (which was cracked and through where the water found its way in) and tried to dry it. I didn't have tools to remove the battery because I was on vacation.
The next day the phone was powering on, but the operating system wasn't booting."
It was a huge mistake of yours to turn on the phone after such a short time after flooding. If there was a short circuit and damage to a component, no amount of drying for a million years can help.
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I totally understand and I was aware of the possibility of the short circuit.
But I don't want just to assume that there's been any damage to the electronic components since what we're facing right now is the phone is booting but the FRP lock is not letting us to proceed.
So is there anything that you can help with regards to this?
Thanks

ze7zez said:
"My phone got water damaged and I quickly removed the back cover (which was cracked and through where the water found its way in) and tried to dry it. I didn't have tools to remove the battery because I was on vacation.
The next day the phone was powering on, but the operating system wasn't booting."
It was a huge mistake of yours to turn on the phone after such a short time after flooding. If there was a short circuit and damage to a component, no amount of drying for a million years can help.
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Water is not good... and it doesn't take much.
It may or may not be permanently damage. If it's salt water it's already dead. Fresh water exposure may be salvageable but don't count on it.
The biggest threat is corrosion. The power circuits and V+ busses were are at highest risk as are the ribbon cable contacts. Water will nest in the pins and cause corrosion especially if they have voltage on them.
The BGA chipsets have their contacts underneath them and their undersides must be perfectly dry. That takes heat and time. Heat drives out moisture. Anhydrous Isopropyl alcohol absorbs water to help displace it. Alcohol evaporates faster than water.
Anything up to 120F is permissible.
A vacuum chamber with a lower than atmospheric pressure can also be used to speed drying.

nrgX said:
(...) If it gets to the Welcome screen (after the factory reset) it freezes there.
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This is not the effect of FRP blockage, but, for example, damage to the electronics.

nrgX said:
I totally understand and I was aware of the possibility of the short circuit.
But I don't want just to assume that there's been any damage to the electronic components since what we're facing right now is the phone is booting but the FRP lock is not letting us to proceed.
So is there anything that you can help with regards to this?
Thanks
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FRP unlocking support violates XDA rules. Don't get XDA in trouble! There are resources on the internet or Samsung can do it.
You must first be sure the phone is completely dry or it will be a goner for sure. FRP is the least of your worries.

Even if the phone is fully dry after several weeks, components could be still damaged.

ze7zez said:
This is not the effect of FRP blockage, but, for example, damage to the electronics.
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The rom may have been corrupted or it's still wet or it's dry and blown out.
More than likely it moisture under a BGA chipset or in the ribbon cable contacts.
There's a reason manufacturers won't warranty water damage. Salt water is particularly insidious.
I've successfully salvaged a Buds case that deep sixed into a full cup of coffee, cream and sugar of course. Ripped it apart within 2 minutes, flushed with RO water then anhydrous isopropyl alcohol.
Allowed to dry for a day in the sun. Drank coffee. Over 2.5 years latter it still charges normally.

blackhawk said:
FRP unlocking support violates XDA rules. Don't get XDA in trouble! There are resources on the internet or Samsung can do it.
You must first be sure the phone is completely dry or it will be a goner for sure. FRP is the least of your worries.
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Thanks for clarifying the rules about with regard to FRP.

Question Z fold 3 won't charge

So sitting in my hot tub switching songs and I turn to look at something and dipped the very bottom portion of the phone in the water the outside screen turned green and turned off I put it in rice for 3 days the outside screen does not turn on anymore but the inside screen did.. and now will not hold a charge and the battery has died.. it says it's too cold and needs to cool down before it can charge. are there any remedies for this? I'd like to get the rest of the stuff off the phone or get it fixed

Power down and do not restart or attempt to charge.
The battery should be disconnected asap.
It needs to have the cover(s) pulled and dried out first.
Rice is useless. Tik-tok, time is not a luxury you have. Corrosion never sleeps.

blackhawk said:
Power down and do not restart or attempt to charge.
The battery should be disconnected asap.
It needs to have the cover(s) pulled and dried out first.
Rice is useless. Tik-tok, time is not a luxury you have. Corrosion never sleeps.
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This actually happened a couple of weeks ago.. and I don't know how to pull the covers

If the water is outside on the port it wouldn't be a problem but it's internal (display failed). Get it looked at soon.
If you never removed the cover(s) before now may not be the time to learn. If salt or brine water got into it it's already dead, fresh water may be salvageable.

blackhawk said:
If the water is outside on the port it wouldn't be a problem but it's internal (display failed). Get it looked at soon.
If you never removed the cover(s) before now may not be the time to learn. If salt or brine water got into it it's already dead, fresh water may be salvageable.
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blackhawk said:
If the water is outside on the port it wouldn't be a problem but it's internal (display failed). Get it looked at soon.
If you never removed the cover(s) before now may not be the time to learn. If salt or brine water got into it it's already dead, fresh water may be salvageable.
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It's hot tub water which is soft water but these things are supposed to be water resistant

danbear7777 said:
It's hot tub water which is soft water but these things are supposed to be water resistant
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Obviously not. Regardless of their IP rating I always assume my N10+'s are not safe to water exposure.

Try using a hair dryer with the cool air setting to blow the Type-C port for a while. Then try again. If that doesn't work then try a different cable

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Try using a hair dryer with the cool air setting to blow the Type-C port for a while. Then try again. If that doesn't work then try a different cable
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The display was effected meaning the water is inside. Trying to power it on will only do more damage.