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[Q] Desire on Rogers, EDGE support?

After reading countless posts on the subject I can't seem to find a clearly definitive answer so I'm giving it a shot here...
If you buy a Telus Desire, SIM unlock it and then put in the correct carrier APN information will the phone correctly jump back and forth between EDGE and 3G on Rogers' network? Half the posts I've read said the phone operates exactly as if it were a Rogers branded phone in the first place and everything works perfectly, the other half say the phone can't transmit/receive data once you're outside of Rogers' 3G coverage as it falls back to looking for a slower connection on CDMA instead of EDGE. I really like this phone but I have a Rogers contract and would need the phone to work correctly on all freq bands for it to be viable for me to own one. I also have no desire to take the more extreme route I've read about which is the whole root/flash new rom method.
Also, is there an easy way to update the phone to Froyo without, again, having to go some convoluted route like goldcard/update with WWE patch? In other words, has anyone with a SIM unlocked Telus Desire seen an OTA update to Froyo showing up anywhere? Thanks.

I don't have the Telus Desire but my understanding is: the Telus Desire is willing to connect to voice/SMS over 2G but fails to connect to data. Using an unbranded firmware fixes it.
To address a few points:
- CDMA is irrelevant. Telus phones can either run on their CDMA or HSPA network but none are capable of both. This is because Qualcomm will not allow phone manufacturers to build a phone with their CDMA chip if it also supports North American UMTS frequencies. Thus all the "world phones" sold for US/Canada CDMA networks only support Euro 3G bands.
Boodah said:
I really like this phone but I have a Rogers contract and would need the phone to work correctly on all freq bands for it to be viable for me to own one. I also have no desire to take the more extreme route I've read about which is the whole root/flash new rom method.
Also, is there an easy way to update the phone to Froyo without, again, having to go some convoluted route like goldcard/update with WWE patch? In other words, has anyone with a SIM unlocked Telus Desire seen an OTA update to Froyo showing up anywhere? Thanks.
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There is no Telus Froyo OTA. If you want to shove on the international unbranded Froyo yourself you can do so using the RUU method but you will never be able to root nor return the phone Telus firmware without some very extreme measures.
If you want to be able to revert to Telus stock firmware - which is currently NOT to my knowledge available as a RUU or update.zip - here would be your upgrade route:
- Unrevoked3, root the phone and install latest Clockwork Recovery
- Take a full Nandroid backup from Clockwork Recovery and save that file somewhere safe. It's your only way home.
- Locate on the forums: stock HTC pre-rooted Froyo in update.zip format
- Flash that firmware and now you have both Froyo and the EDGE fix
If you ever need to get back to Telus stock (or as close to stock as possible), you can restore the Nandroid backup. You'll now have a rooted Telus firmware.
What I don't know is:
- Whether there is a way to backup/restore the stock Telus recovery
- Exactly which way a Telus user would unroot.

Your understanding seems to be similar to mine at this point, that Telus specifically blocked whatever it is that it takes for the phone to connect at the slower data speed on Rogers' network. But again, I'm seeing contradictory posts about this which is why I was asking in the hope that someone who DOES have the Telus Desire and is using it on Rogers could confirm it. Thanks for the input, though.

the reson why the telus 2.1 rom does not connect to edge is probably because they never had it set up to do so seeing as telus does not offer any edge/2g network.

[Q] Is there a way to root using a different carrier's stock image?

I have the Samsung Galaxy S3 (T-Mobile) and it includes all the unneccesary carrier bloatware. Since I'm not a T-Mobile customer, I would prefer not to have all the extra T-Mobile applications, so I was wondering when rooting with Odin 3, instead of using T-Mobiles stock image, can I possibly use a different carriers, like WIND Mobile.
The instructions I got were from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1771687
When I tried using the WIND image on my T-Mobile device, rooting fails!
Any suggestions?

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I have the Samsung Galaxy S3 (T-Mobile) and it includes all the unneccesary carrier bloatware. Since I'm not a T-Mobile customer, I would prefer not to have all the extra T-Mobile applications, so I was wondering when rooting with Odin 3, instead of using T-Mobiles stock image, can I possibly use a different carriers, like WIND Mobile.
The instructions I got were from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1771687
When I tried using the WIND image on my T-Mobile device, rooting fails!
Any suggestions?
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Never use another carrier's ROM unless it specifically states it will work with another carrier. What you need to do is root with the official T-Mobile image that has root/super user injected into it.
Once you are done with that, get Titanium Backup free version from the market and uninstall what you don't want.
Use this thread which is in the Android Development forum for T-Mo: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1949687
That is the thread I started with when I rooted my T-Mo S3.

Technically what you're trying to do can be done. As said above, you shouldnt flash another carriers rom as the bootloaders and modem would most likely brick if the flash was successful(although i think odin checks this and the flash would fail anyway).
That said the system+kernel alone would be ok to flash. I actually have a package made just for this purpose posted here. See if that does what you want. Only thing is it was made for someone on moblicity although from what i remember the system was the same for both wind and moblicity(no branding or carrier specific apps). I can do this with WIND if need be just shoot a PM.

Refurb Super Luck: MDL Device! Some Qs

Hi folks,
I'm an ATT cellular user but I got tired of the locked bootloaders that the ATT devices have. I bought from a reputable seller on Swappa a factory unlocked unused replacement SGH-M919, since T-Mobile devices are generally compatible with ATT networks, and don't have locked bootloaders. I figured it would come with NB4, and was all prepared to Towelroot it and install a custom recovery and trip my Knox warranty counter.
Lo and behold, when I turned it on (no SIM installed yet), it has the 4.2.2 MDL firmware. <shocked happy dance> NO KNOX AT ALL! :good:
Question 1: is there any risk of the thing downloading and installing the NB4 update if it has no SIM at all, just a WIFI connection? I've disconnected it from the wifi here at home for now. In fact, it's off.
Question 2: I need to test out the "Factory Unlocked" part of the equation in the next couple days so I can complete the sale. If I put in an ATT SIM (and configure the APN manually for ATT settings), is there any risk of it downloading the NB4?
I figure it must be connected to the T-Mobile network to get an update, but just wanted to check to make sure before I accidentally mess up this godsend.
Question 3: It looks to be straightforward from here, right? Root with CF-Autoroot, install TWRP or CWM, install ROM... right? I'm no stranger to ODIN or flashing stuff (after all the messing around needed on ATT phones... safestrap.... the horror of a locked bootloader).
FWIW I'm headed straight to Dirty Unicorns ROM. Looks like a really cool ROM. So much more to choose from on the T-Mobile M919 than on the I337 ATT phone.
If I've missed anything, please let me know. I will start a thread on my "ATT User with M919 Experience"... I've missed such a thread here, and with lots of ATT folks sick of locked up boot loaders, maybe my fumblings will help someone.
Thanks in advance for any insight.
Marc

1) No, it may say there is an update but it won't download it or update without your concern
2) only if you select OK to download and update.. You can still OTA, it doesn't have to be running on T-Mobile network
3) you can use cf-auto root but its not needed. Just flash recovery with Odin, and flash ROM like you normally would

Thanks. For some reason I thought I had to have root to flash the recovery. This probably stems from my experience with an ATT phone where root was required to install SafeStrap, which was the only recovery option we had.
Awesome.
I will start a thread later this week to collect info to help other ATT users with these phones.
Marc

i cant update to andriod 5.0

Hi guys, I can't update my stock AT&T m8. The ota software update isn't showing up at all. I unlocked the phone with a code I bought online Since Iam no longer using an AT&T sim. I switched to lycamobile. is that the reason I can't see the update? Is there anywhere I can download the ota file? I don't want to root my phone.

gabriox said:
I switched to lycamobile. is that the reason I can't see the update?
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Yes and no.
Its correct that you will not receive updates for the AT&T version M8 if you aren't on AT&T's network. Some folks here may disagree, that aren't familiar with AT&T (most HTC phones will usually update fine OTA regardless of network). But AT&T is the oddball, you have to be connected to their network, or no OTA.
The other thing is, that the AT&T version hasn't updated to Lollipop yet, and no release date given (but hopefully soon). So even if you were connected to AT&T's network, you wouldn't be able to update to LP.
The latest official software for the AT&T version is Android 4.4.4. If you aren't on that version, you can download the RUU and update with it. Then wait for LP to release as RUU. RUUs are linked in my AT&T specific Index thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751432
Your other option is to mod the phone and s-off in order to install LP firmware and run a stock or custom LP ROM. Or fully convert the phone to another carrier version (change CID).

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Yes and no.
Its correct that you will not receive updates for the AT&T version M8 if you aren't on AT&T's network. Some folks here may disagree, that aren't familiar with AT&T (most HTC phones will usually update fine OTA regardless of network). But AT&T is the oddball, you have to be connected to their network, or no OTA.
The other thing is, that the AT&T version hasn't updated to Lollipop yet, and no release date given (but hopefully soon). So even if you were connected to AT&T's network, you wouldn't be able to update to LP.
The latest official software for the AT&T version is Android 4.4.4. If you aren't on that version, you can download the RUU and update with it. Then wait for LP to release as RUU. RUUs are linked in my AT&T specific Index thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751432
Your other option is to mod the phone and s-off in order to install LP firmware and run a stock or custom LP ROM. Or fully convert the phone to another carrier version (change CID).
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i got the the latest at&t update. so should i wait for at&t to release the update or? i dont want a custom rom. just want a stock phone.

gabriox said:
i got the the latest at&t update. so should i wait for at&t to release the update or? i dont want a custom rom. just want a stock phone.
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Its up to you to make that decision. LP release on AT&T is rumored by a decently reliable source to be "soon", but who knows what that means?
My personal opinion, there is absolutely no good reason to be on AT&T stock software if you aren't even on their network or in the US. Personally, I can't stand AT&T's bloatware and gimped features (you may notice that WiFi tethering is disabled). So converting to another (stock) version to me is highly preferable (or running a custom ROM for that matter).
Not sure what region or country you are in, but you may consider converting to Euro or "international" version (which would still be "stock" just stock international unbranded instead of AT&T). Not only will you get rid of AT&T software branding, but once you fully convert, you will also be able to get OTA updates. Plus, international M8 gets updated much earlier than AT&T.
To "convert", you need to s-off and change CID and MID. From there, you can convert your phone to any other version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/change-wwe-m8-to-dev-edition-ota-t2826567

Honestly I agree with you. Is there way I can convert to the international version or preferably Google edition without all my files being deleted? btw Iam in the United states. And can you guide me on the process? Thanks

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Is there way I can convert to the international version or preferably Google edition without all my files being deleted?
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Not that I am aware. Your best bet is to backup your data, then restore it (as appropriate) after you convert. Which you should absolutely do anyway, before undertaking any such major mods. Even if they were supposed to "keep" user data, as nothing is ever a "sure thing" and its always best to back up and avoid regret.
There are different methods to backup, and it also depends on exactly what data you want to keep. I personally have my contacts on Gmail, and don't use any other email on my phone aside from Gmail (so my contacts and Gmail are all just on the cloud). So for me, its mostly just app data that I want to backup, so I use Titanium Backup for that purpose. You can also use Titanium to backup and restore your SMS and call log; at least between Sense ROMs (don't know if this will migrate to GPE). Don't use Titanium to migrate any system data (will often cause bugs if you are moving between any ROMs that are significantly different). I just customize system settings manually after ROM flash, etc. Don't know what other files you may want to keep. If its just media (songs, pics, video) you can just copy those to your computer or removable SD as means of backup. Or there are a variety of cloud options you can use to backup pics and other files.

At&t zforce2 how to remove all at&t warez and make stock?

I picked up a at&t phone off eBay and I work off a regional carrier that doesn't have this phone. Is there any generic firmware that will still get updates like a blanket Motorola version? Or am I stuck with rooting and using someone's packaged rom to get away from at&t customized stock rom?
Been a while since I've rooted and changed firmwares on my phones so I apologise for the noob question.
Thanks

If you are talking about normal OTA update then you should be fine

in a few days i will test flashing the retail firmware to my at&t device and will let you know more then if it works or not.

Awesome. Thanks. Yes would love to remove the at&t apps and branding from this phone.

Any luck??

still waiting for my new device in the mail.